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Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Tuesday, June 3, 2008 at 10:12 am
Posted by David Zdunkewicz (10 messages posted)

I have a Windows XP laptop connected to my home network through a wireless access point. The XP laptop can access the internet and it can print to a computer connected via hard wire to the network. However, I can't print to a different printer connected to a new Dell PC desktop running Vista Home Premium. Neither the wireless laptop nor the Vista computer (which is connected via wire) "see" each other when I try to setup a home network. The other Win XP desktop that is wired to the router CAN print to the Vista-connected printer. I also am able to network the XP desktop and the Vista desktop and share files. I tried turning off all firewalls and it did not help. I also made sure that the Vista computer is set to "public" and I enabled file and print sharing on the Vista machine. When all three computers were running XP everything worked well. But since replacing one of my desktops with a Vista machine, the Vista machine does not seem to recognize any computer that is connected to the network through the wireless access point. I searched for a thread with my exact configuration, but had no luck. I apologize if this has been covered before.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Wednesday, June 4, 2008 at 6:53 am
Posted by Charlie Hadden (1338 messages posted)

Check you connections in Settings/Network Connections and see if you have  'Network 
Bridge' listed. This will help make a better more stable bridge and Hopefully will 
give you access to the printer. Make sure you have that particular printer drivers 
installed on both machines and that it is the printer chosen as the 'Default Printer' 
when you try to print.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Wednesday, June 4, 2008 at 8:00 am
Posted by David Zdunkewicz (10 messages posted)

Thanks. I'll give it a try this evening.


On Wednesday, June 4, 2008 at 6:53 am, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>Check you connections in Settings/Network Connections and see if you have 'Network
>Bridge' listed. This will help make a better more stable bridge and Hopefully will
>give you access to the printer. Make sure you have that particular printer drivers
>installed on both machines and that it is the printer chosen as the 'Default Printer'
>when you try to print.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Thursday, June 5, 2008 at 7:20 am
Posted by David Zdunkewicz (10 messages posted)

I checked the settings and "Network Bridge" was not available because I only have one network. My single router is connected to my cable modem. Through the wall sockets I have two desktop computers (one Vista and one XP) connected to the router (a D-Link I believe). The wireless access point is connected through a switch (both are Linksys, I think). The XP computer is wired to the router through the switch. Is this setup considered two networks that must be bridged? The Vista desktop does not have a wireless card and it does not see the wireless access point or any laptop that is connected through the wireless access point, but it does network with the XP computer that is wired to the switch. Any help would be appreciated.


On Wednesday, June 4, 2008 at 6:53 am, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>Check you connections in Settings/Network Connections and see if you have 'Network
>Bridge' listed. This will help make a better more stable bridge and Hopefully will
>give you access to the printer. Make sure you have that particular printer drivers
>installed on both machines and that it is the printer chosen as the 'Default Printer'
>when you try to print.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Friday, June 6, 2008 at 7:14 am
Posted by Charlie Hadden (1338 messages posted)

The network Bridge can be used on just two machines that are wired directly to each 
other! You should not be required to have separate networks. I am not sure what function 
the Switch is providing if you already have a router. Do you need it as an extender 
for distance? Switches are normally used in large networks to speed up the changes 
between active machines and to potentially open up some bandwidth when using many 
machines. 
Example: My setup has only 2 machines connected with a crossover cable. One machine 
has a WiFi card that connects to my provider across the street. I can connect the 
two machines without a bridge, but do not have bidirectional access nor ISP access 
on the second machine without a "MAC Miniport Bridge". If I do an IPconfig it does 
not even show the individual machines, only the bridge.
Now why you can't find it to install I don't know. I though something was wrong with 
mine because it insisted it be there and I had never used it before!

You also might look into using the "promiscuous mode". This I can't help you with 
but I am told it can help you discover a fault.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Friday, June 6, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Posted by davidz (3 messages posted)

I need the switch/wireless access point because of the location of my router. It's in a closet upstairs where all of the Cat 5 wires come together. A wireless router won't work well in that location.


On Friday, June 6, 2008 at 7:14 am, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>
>The network Bridge can be used on just two machines that are wired directly to each
>other! You should not be required to have separate networks. I am not sure what function
>the Switch is providing if you already have a router. Do you need it as an extender
>for distance? Switches are normally used in large networks to speed up the changes
>between active machines and to potentially open up some bandwidth when using many
>machines.
>Example: My setup has only 2 machines connected with a crossover cable. One machine
>has a WiFi card that connects to my provider across the street. I can connect the
>two machines without a bridge, but do not have bidirectional access nor ISP access
>on the second machine without a "MAC Miniport Bridge". If I do an IPconfig it does
>not even show the individual machines, only the bridge.
>Now why you can't find it to install I don't know. I though something was wrong with
>mine because it insisted it be there and I had never used it before!
>
>You also might look into using the "promiscuous mode". This I can't help you with
>but I am told it can help you discover a fault.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Charlie Hadden (1338 messages posted)

I hope you didn't think I was talking about a physical bridge device. I can't get 
any answers why I had to have it in my system, but it works beautifully. And now 
I understand your need for the switch. Kind of a extension link. I'm getting ready 
to put a router in my setup just for that purpose and I hope I can eliminate the 
Mac mini bridge doing so...maybe!

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Monday, June 9, 2008 at 11:17 am
Posted by David Zdunkewicz (10 messages posted)

How do I attempt to create the bridge that works for you? The only "network bridge" I found in any of the network settings appeared to related to a physical bridge between two different networks.


On Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 5:40 pm, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>
>I hope you didn't think I was talking about a physical bridge device. I can't get
>any answers why I had to have it in my system, but it works beautifully. And now
>I understand your need for the switch. Kind of a extension link. I'm getting ready
>to put a router in my setup just for that purpose and I hope I can eliminate the
>Mac mini bridge doing so...maybe!

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Wednesday, June 11, 2008 at 5:47 am
Posted by Charlie Hadden (1338 messages posted)

Got to Start/Settings/Network and select the two connections you wish to bridge. 
Highlight them both and r. Click on them. You should see it offered there. This is 
usually used in place of a router, but it just might fix your situation. If it doesn't 
remember that you have to R. Click on each connection and 'Disconnect' it from the 
bridge and then Delete the bridge from the network list.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Wednesday, June 11, 2008 at 6:54 am
Posted by David Zdunkewicz (10 messages posted)

The problem with doing that is the laptop which is connected through the wireless access point is not seen by the computer running Vista. Thus, one of the networks I want to bridge does not show up as a connection at all.


On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 at 5:47 am, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>Got to Start/Settings/Network and select the two connections you wish to bridge.
>Highlight them both and r. Click on them. You should see it offered there. This is
>usually used in place of a router, but it just might fix your situation. If it doesn't
>remember that you have to R. Click on each connection and 'Disconnect' it from the
>bridge and then Delete the bridge from the network list.

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 7:50 am
Posted by Charlie Hadden (1338 messages posted)

The only time I use AP mode is when I go to places where I want to use someone else's 
AP, like a coffee shop or hotel. Have you tried to switch away from AP mode? On my 
RaLink I have to start up the RaLink util. to do this and R. click on the tray icon. 
I do not see any place to do it elsewhere, though I am sure there is some place somewhere. 
I can not connect to anything in AP mode here at the house, but in the other mode 
I see every link in the neighborhood. 

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re: Networking/Printing Issues From Win XP Laptop with Wireless Connection
Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 8:23 am
Posted by David Zdunkewicz (10 messages posted)

I'm giving up on using the wireless access point to network the laptop. My house is hard wired so all I need to do is install the RJ45 jacks in my kids' bedrooms and then connect the lines to my router and they can access the network that way. They'll need to use an ethernet cable to plug into the wall jacks, but they'll be able to share files, print, etc. on the network. They can still use the wireless access point to connect to the internet anywhere in the house.


On Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 7:50 am, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>
>The only time I use AP mode is when I go to places where I want to use someone else's
>AP, like a coffee shop or hotel. Have you tried to switch away from AP mode? On my
>RaLink I have to start up the RaLink util. to do this and R. click on the tray icon.
>I do not see any place to do it elsewhere, though I am sure there is some place somewhere.
>I can not connect to anything in AP mode here at the house, but in the other mode
>I see every link in the neighborhood.

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