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Installing 3.5 disk pgm on a new Vista laptop
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Installing 3.5 disk pgm on a new Vista laptop
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 12:07 pm Posted by herb
(27 messages posted)
I got a new Vista laptop with a DVD-burner only...will read CD's...How do I install
a brand new, still packaged, (old) program that comes on a 3.5 disk? ... without
resorting to finding an old external 3.5 drive?....Is there a way to copy the five
installation disks using my old computer (with a 3.5 drive) to a CD, so as to install
the program off the CD, onto the new laptop? ... I tried several ways, (Control Panel,
etc), but Microsoft apparently doesn't allow copying of all the .DLL files from one
medium to another....Short of trying to find an external 3.5 drive, is there a particular
procedure for making this conversion onto a CD that will work for me?....I have a
number of other old programs on 3.5 that I'd like to keep, also.... Thanks for your
help!
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re: Installing 3.5 disk pgm on a new Vista laptop
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 2:31 pm Posted by MartinM
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Why not get a USB floppy disk drive ?
PS are you sure the (old) programs will run on Vista - however the drives are incredibly
cheap so I guess you can take that risk :-)
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re: Installing 3.5 disk pgm on a new Vista laptop
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 6:21 am Posted by Charlie Hadden
(854 messages posted)
First I agree totally with Martin about the viability of older programs being used
with Vista. You may be able to access some of them in the 'Compatibility Mode', but
that has gotten more and more feeble as the years go on. You May have some success
finding a 'Virtual Machine' program which is a software version of a computer you
run within Windows that will permit you use of older software.
That being said, I doubt that MS is stopping you from copying files. It is more likely
your method or software used to do the copying. Realize that what you have desvcribed
would be some sore of copy protection that would be quite old and probably no longer
even evaluated by Windows. Try to find a suitable program like "Nero" (you would
have to purchase) or possibly "Disk Copy" which is free at the link I have listed
below. This type of software is more suitable for your purpose as it is dedicated
to that purpose.
http://www.tucows.com/preview/206988
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re: Installing 3.5 disk pgm on a new Vista laptop
Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 2:31 am Posted by herb
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Thank you for the helpful suggestions. I use Nero for burning, BUT - copying the
disks to a CD-ROM is not the problem.....Even if all Disk 1 thru Disk 5 are copied
onto a CD, in its functioning, the end of Disk 1 (on the CD) is still looking for
"Insert A:/disk2" .... not E:/disk2... (see the difference?)...and the end of Disk
2 is looking for "Insert A:/disk3" ...not E:/disk3... etc. .... Obviously on a new
laptop, there is no "A:/". ... so, the installation on the CD stops and does not
proceed to Disk 2 which is copied onto the CD. ....I've also tried copying from the
CD to a directory on the laptop labeled Disk 1, Disk 2, etc. That doesn't work either.
It also doesn't explain why the .DLL files are not copied over to the CD (when they
can be copied to another 3.5 using Disk Copy), and when all the rest of the files
are copied.... Thanks again. (by the way, the pgms work on XP, so I have to assume
the Compatability Mode would suffice to work on Vista, as well..../////////////////////
On Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 6:21 am, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>First I agree totally with Martin about the viability of older programs being used
>with Vista. You may be able to access some of them in the 'Compatibility Mode',
but
>that has gotten more and more feeble as the years go on. You May have some success
>finding a 'Virtual Machine' program which is a software version of a computer you
>run within Windows that will permit you use of older software.
>
>That being said, I doubt that MS is stopping you from copying files. It is more
likely
>your method or software used to do the copying. Realize that what you have desvcribed
>would be some sore of copy protection that would be quite old and probably no longer
>even evaluated by Windows. Try to find a suitable program like "Nero" (you would
>have to purchase) or possibly "Disk Copy" which is free at the link I have listed
>below. This type of software is more suitable for your purpose as it is dedicated
>to that purpose.
>http://www.tucows.com/preview/206988
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re: Installing 3.5 disk pgm on a new Vista laptop
Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 3:46 pm Posted by Charlie Hadden
(854 messages posted)
OK!!! You are trying to change the preset/designated source dir for a multi disk
burn!!! Let me study a bit.
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re: Installing 3.5 disk pgm on a new Vista laptop
Friday, June 20, 2008 at 1:57 pm Posted by Stu Mulne
(6 messages posted)
Herb:
The 3.5" USB add-on may still be the simplest choice....
However, if the installation software is smart enough, you can copy each of the original
disks onto separate folders on the CD, or onto separate CD's if you have to.
Then, as each new "disket" is requested, you MAY have the option to select a new
directory, or put in another CD.
'Course, if the installer expects "A:" and you only have "E:", that could be a problem....
One warning - sometimes the installation routines are also looking for a particular
volume name, like "Disk 1". Sometimes you can fake this with the folder name, and
sometimes it's not going to work.
Another thing to think about.... Some of the older software (particularly Win9x)
will just COPY - just burn the folder or whatever else you can find - and load that
out to the same place(s) on the new box.
You'll probably lose any customization you've made, but the worst case is often the
program popping up with a "can't find 'sheepdip.dll'" message. Find it on the old
machine and put a copy in the Windows\System directory and other likely places.
This might take a few tries, but it often works.
Late Win9x and XP-oriented software often requires it's installer to make Registry
changes and other things that will kill this, but if it's old enough to be on floppies,
you probably will get lucky.
(If you've got the new and old machines networked, it's even easier to just copy
stuff that way.)
Regards,
Stu.
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