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Harddrive Space constantly disappearing
Thursday, October 8, 2009 at 8:37 am
Posted by Curtis Degler (3 messages posted)

I am running Vista Home Premium SP2 on a Toshiba Satellite L305D laptop with a WD "250" GB HD which according to device manager has 283475 MB capacity and is divided into two partitions, E/ Data with 159374MB and C/ with the OS and the Program files etc with 77600 MB. My problem is that the windows "My computer" and other file managers show inconsistent amounts of memory usage for the OS Partition which fluctuate widely and simply do not add up. The C:partition shows a usage of space of 41 GB but only 8 GB is shown as being free. 28GB is "missing". This is with folder options selected to show all system files. Using a little program called fulldisk and also Advanced System Optimizer I have tried to analyse the folder sizes of C: and their totals of space allocated and space free do not add up to anywhere near 77.6GB and are off by 28 GB. The amount of shown Freespace - currently 8GB - fluctuates widely. After a disk defrag it dropped 2GB!? Unallocated space is dangerously close to less than 10% of the total C: partition size. I have tried to turn off indexing and also run chkdsk; Registry and HD cleaners do little. Nothing seems to point where this missing HD memory is or what it is doing. I simply can;t find it. Any help is appreciated. Curt

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re: Harddrive Space constantly disappearing
Friday, October 9, 2009 at 5:23 am
Posted by Charlie Hadden (1338 messages posted)

Bottom line is you  are using way to small of a hard drive for your system.
But to you issue and causes. One of the largest absorbers of space are updates. Then 
there is the page file. In days go by they used to tell people to set this at a static 
size of 2.5 times the size of your memory. That no longer is a valid thing to do 
nor because of the different way things operate and the way memory is utilized is 
that a valid size.Hard drive space is too cheep to go that way. I have an old drive 
that I threw in just for the Page file to use all by itself.
There are many things that take up space that you never see, even with view all files 
turned on. Another example is the space used for the recovery. That grows rapidly. 
Think about every time you make a restore point. Also this can be managed manually, 
but be cautious. Don't become the guy that makes this too small or turns it off then 
cry later when you don't have a restore point to go to after a crash. Small out of 
date drives are every where and cheep. When you can buy a nice sized new drive for 
$50 and run  a second or third drive for different things, there is little excuse 
for these things to happen. Vista runs nicely if you give it room to breathe.

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re: Harddrive Space constantly disappearing
Friday, October 9, 2009 at 5:43 am
Posted by jbmcmillan (1055 messages posted)

Try Tree Size free to see what is taking up space.I have a 80 gb partition for Vista 
and it operates just fine.I don't store anything but the most frequently used items 
in Documents and have folders on storage drives for that purpose.I regularly clean 
out old restore points via "more options" part of disk cleanup which deletes all 
but the most recent restore point.I keep it this size for time/space involved for 
using a third party imaging program.I never rely on just  "Restore" for saving me.

http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

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re: Harddrive Space constantly disappearing
Friday, October 9, 2009 at 11:29 am
Posted by Curtis Degler (3 messages posted)

I am using a laptop so adding additional internal drives is not possible, but I store NOTHING on the C: drive but the OS and the program files and what they commandeer, and everything else goes on the E: drive or on one of about 3 eternal harddrives I run. The main HD drive totals about 250GB and the C: drive is allocated 75GB, which should be enough. As I said, but will repeat, the amount of free space fluctuates WILDLY and constantly and is hard to predict. I recently downloaded and installed the Windows SP 2 for Vista and suddenly the free space went from 8GB to about 37GB!!!! Now it is slowly creeping down. Using various file folder managers and tree sizers (include the one mentioned in the other post called treesize free) I get currently a total partition size of 39GB, while the physical size of the C partition is closer to 75GB. My pagefile.sys is set at 3.3 GB and doesn't change much - set as "automatically manage paging file size for all drives" BTW Should I change that for better perfomance I may well have hidden stored multiple restore and recovery points. Where are these? How can I manage them? Specific explicit directions are helpful with someone as unknowledgeable as myself about the hidden inner workings of this OS. Thanks Curt


On Friday, October 9, 2009 at 5:23 am, Charlie Hadden wrote:
>
>Bottom line is you are using way to small of a hard drive for your system.
>But to you issue and causes. One of the largest absorbers of space are updates. Then
>there is the page file. In days go by they used to tell people to set this at a static
>size of 2.5 times the size of your memory. That no longer is a valid thing to do
>nor because of the different way things operate and the way memory is utilized is
>that a valid size.Hard drive space is too cheep to go that way. I have an old drive
>that I threw in just for the Page file to use all by itself.
>There are many things that take up space that you never see, even with view all files
>turned on. Another example is the space used for the recovery. That grows rapidly.
>Think about every time you make a restore point. Also this can be managed manually,
>but be cautious. Don't become the guy that makes this too small or turns it off then
>cry later when you don't have a restore point to go to after a crash. Small out of
>date drives are every where and cheep. When you can buy a nice sized new drive for
>$50 and run a second or third drive for different things, there is little excuse
>for these things to happen. Vista runs nicely if you give it room to breathe.

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re: Harddrive Space constantly disappearing
Friday, October 9, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Curtis Degler (3 messages posted)

Okay OKAY! I found disk cleanup and went to more options, clicked on "system restore and shadow copies", and deleted all the old copies, etc. and the free space on C' drive went from 8GB to 37GB in an instant. THANK YOU! Curt


On Friday, October 9, 2009 at 5:43 am, jbmcmillan wrote:
>Try Tree Size free to see what is taking up space.I have a 80 gb partition for Vista
>and it operates just fine.I don't store anything but the most frequently used items
>in Documents and have folders on storage drives for that purpose.I regularly clean
>out old restore points via "more options" part of disk cleanup which deletes all
>but the most recent restore point.I keep it this size for time/space involved for
>using a third party imaging program.I never rely on just "Restore" for saving me.
>
>http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

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