re: This was the solution (for me) Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 12:48 am Windows XP Annoyances Discussion Forum Posted by jaxxsterz (3 messages posted) This is what i did and it worked great for me. If you've ticked "Remember each folder's view settings" in "My Computer", "Tools", "Folder Options", "Views" Then go to here in the registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags Delete the Keys "BagsMRU" and "Bags". Restart Windows. Then go to:- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell and add a DWORD called BagMRU Size and give it a value of 000003e8 Then go to :- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam make a DWORD called BagMRU Size and give it a value of 000003e8 Now you can change each folder to the way you want them and the setting will stay for at least 1000 views. Jaxx On Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 3:56 am, Jost Wolf wrote: >Hello, > >I had the just the same problem with Windows XP home always resetting my custom folder >views to its factory defaults. I posted it in a German XP newsgroup and got this >URL: > >http://groups.google.de/groups?q=bagmru&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=ugTk9Qv2BHA.204840tkmsftngp05&rnum=1 > >When I checked it again today, I did not work anymore, so here is the text I found >there: > >[start quote] >Hello Fred, > >I would not be surprised if you had heard me shout from where ever in the >world you are. > >Anyway, the " >BagMRU > Size" value worked. My system is now happily creating >Keys under the "Bags" Key with values greater than 400. > >You have no idea how happy I am about this. I love XP Pro and the Folder >behaviour was one thing that REALLY annoyed me. I can understand why >Microsoft have set a default, at what probably seems a reasonable limit of >400 Folders. However I think you might find that lots of people may run >into this issue at some point in time. Setting this >BagMRU > Size value is >almost something that TweakUI could do. > >In any event it would seem that my issues have been resolved. I can now go >and setup my Music folders just the way I want without the fear that Windows >will clobber those settings at some time in the future. > >All that is left to ask is, are there any guidelines on the upper limit to >the >BagMRU > Size? What impact on the Registry Size will increasing the >number of Folders have? Any other side - effects we need to be aware of? > >Many, many thanks for your support. > >This is a real winner! > >Trevor. > > >"Trevor A. White" wrote in message >news:O#cCXRt2BHA.2588@tkmsftngp07 >... > Fred, > > Thankyou very much for your prompt reply. > > I had tried a number of things in trying to get this to work, but I never > though of an imbedded space. However, surely a value name with an imbedded > space is not valid?? > > Do you actually mean a DWORD value of "Size" in the key: > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\ >BagMRU > > > > Or do you actually mean a DWORD value with the name " >BagMRU > Size" in the > key: > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam > > > I am at work now (it is late afternoon here in South Australia). In any > event I will try this out in a few hours from now once I return home. > > Thanks again for the follow up. > > Trevor. > > > "Shell Team" wrote in message > >news:#wlsBuq2BHA.2368@tkmsftngp07 >... > > Hi Trevor, > > > > I was notified of your post in this forum and it appears the problem might > > be our friend CarriageReturnLineFeed... > > > > The key should be " >BagMRU > Size"...note the space. It looks like my post > > separated right at the keyname value and it was unclear what the key > > actually needed to be. > > > > Please try the key " >BagMRU > Size" instead of "BagMRUSize" and post your > > findings. I'll keep an eye on this thread until you tell me the results and > > if necessary will research the issue further. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fred Nava > > Windows Shell Test Team > > > > > > "Trevor A. White" wrote in message > > >news:#zTywmi2BHA.1260@tkmsftngp04 >... > > > Hi there, > > > > > > A week or so ago I posted a question on the XP Music forum regarding some > > > very odd behaviour I was experiencing with my 'Music Artist' and 'Music > > > Album' folders. > > > > > > I eventually received an excellent response from Fred Nava of the Windows > > > Shell Test Team. (Because my problem was Shell related and not anything to > > > do with Media Player). Anyway, in his response Fred described the functions > > > of Folder Customisation and Folder Sniffing, which Windows does behind the > > > scenes. Fred described the 400 folder limit that XP has by default when > > > storing customisation settings for folders, and how the system will start to > > > re - use these stored settings on a 'Most Recently Used' basis, once the 400 > > > folder limit has been exceeded. Fred went on to tell me how it is possible > > > to increase this limit by creating the following DWORD Registry entry and > > > setting it's value to be greater than 400. > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam [BagMRUSize] > > > > > > and > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell [BagMRUSize] > > > > > > > > > After creating these Registry values, and completely resetting the MRU > > > history for my folders, I thought my troubles would be over. But it was not > > > to be. When Windows XP gets to 400 folders having been 'viewed', it starts > > > reusing the 'least used' entries in the 'Bags' Registry keys. > > > > > > > > > So, finally to my question. Is there anyone here from the Windows Shell team > > > who could confirm if the BagMRUSize value is correct. Have I placed this > > > within the correct Key(s) ie: Shell and ShellNoRoam. Can anyone shed any > > > more light on how to increase the number of folders that XP will remember > > > settings for. > > > > > > Any additional tips would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading. > > > > > > PS: I did not post this back on the original thread as it seemed unlikely > > > that Fred would visit there again. > > > > > > However, here is the text of Fred's message, for those that are interested: > > > > > > > > > >>> Cut <<< > > > Hi Trevor, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to hear that you've experienced the type of frustration you've > > > detailed in your post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have setup hundreds of folders in a structure of 'Music Artist' and within > > > > them 'Music Album' folders. > > > > > > > > But every other day I will be using the system and discover that some > > > > folders that I had previously setup the way I wanted have now reverted to > > > > the standard 'All Documents' folder style. Or, I might find that some 'Music > > > > Album' folders have now become 'Music Artist'. And then, worst of all I > > > > will find some folders, often on a completely different Drive, that have > > > > nothing to do with music and that I have never added any customization to, > > > > will suddenly be displayed as 'Music Artist' with the folder view set to > > > > 'Thumbnail' for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems/behaviors you are encountering center on the interaction > > > between two features, Folder Customization, which you know about, and Folder > > > Sniffing, which you might not know about. Folder Sniffing is a feature that > > > inspects the content of any previously - unopened folder and based on the > > > dominant file type and quantity of files, presents the folder in one of the > > > templates used by Folder Customization. The information used by both of > > > these features is stored in the registry at > > > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell and > > > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam depending on the type of folder > > > it is. Since data is stored on a "Most Recently Used" basis, at any given > > > time, it will only contain data for the last 400 or so folders opened. If > > > more information must be stored, the oldest folder's data will be > > > overwritten. At that point, since there is no persisted data for that > > > folder, if it were re - opened, a new "sniff" would occur and the folder would > > > be presented as determined by its dominant content and quantity of files. > > > The number of folders that can have data stored for them can be manually set > > > by create a new Value at the Shell and ShellNoRoam Key. Create a " >BagMRU > > > > Size" value, make it a DWORD type, and set it to a number higher than 400, > > > 1000 for example. Please note that this is only meant to be done on Windows > > > XP. It is not guaranteed to work on any past or future release of Windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically I want to clean the whole bloody lot out. If it will not work > > > > properly then I would rather just remove it. Is there some straightforward > > > > way that I can remove ALL the folder customizations from the system? > > > > > > > > > > > > Removing all persisted data about folder settings can be accomplished by > > > going to an Explorer Window and going to the Tools - >Folder Options dialog, > > > selecting the View tab and clicking the "Reset All Folders" button. This > > > will wipe all stored folder settings data from the registry. This being > > > said, Folder Sniffing will take place on all folders opened at that point > > > since no persisted data exists now. There is no way to turn off Folder > > > Sniffing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to go back to a standard 'Documents of all file types' with >a > > > > 'Detail' view for all my folders. Rather than continue with this blasted > > > > frustration. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make all folders use Details view by going into any folder and > > > changing the view to Details, bring up the Folder Options dialog and in the > > > View tab, click the "Apply to All Folders" button. All your folders should > > > now be in Details view. Your Tasks Pane will still be based on the dominant > > > file type. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this answers your questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred Nava > > > > > > Windows Shell Test Team > > > > > > >>> Cut <<< >[end quote] > > >That worked for me just perfectly! Even the trashcan remembers its settings now! > >Good luck, Jost Wolf Written in response to: This was the solution (for me) (Jost Wolf: Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 3:56 am) Responses to this message: re: This was the solution (for me) (Arache: Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 4:04 am) re: This was the solution (for me) (scott: Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 6:50 pm) All messages in this thread [show all] Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window Positions' (alex: Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 3:37 am) re: Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window Positions' (Robert: Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 3:30 pm) Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window and Folder Positions' (Robert Law: Sat, May 11, 2002, 1:57 am) re: Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window and Folder Positions' (Tom: Sun, May 26, 2002, 7:14 am) Re to Oomingmak: Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window and Folder Positions' (Robert Law: Mon, May 27, 2002, 2:17 am) re: Re to Oomingmak: Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window and Folder Positions' (Rick Juggernaut: Sat, Jun 29, 2002, 8:06 am) re: Re to Oomingmak: Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window and Folder Positions' (Ander: Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 4:00 pm) re: Re to Oomingmak: Question about 'Force Windows to Remember Window and Folder Positions' (Darrell: Mon, Jul 15, 2002, 8:09 am) This was the solution (for me) (Jost Wolf: Sat, Jul 20, 2002, 3:56 am) re: This was the solution (for me) (John Butler: Sat, Jul 20, 2002, 8:24 am) re: This was the solution (for me) (Jost Wolf: Sat, Jul 20, 2002, 12:41 pm) re: This was the solution (for me) (John Butler: Sat, Jul 20, 2002, 1:04 pm) re: This was the solution (for me) (jaxxsterz: Sun, Feb 23, 2003, 12:48 am) re: This was the solution (for me) (Arache: Sun, Mar 16, 2003, 4:04 am) HOW to FORCE a custom default? 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