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Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 9:42 am
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Posted by nonsence (4 messages posted)


wow, sounds like me a year or more ago. i had the same kinda problems with windows 2000 pro, server and advanced server. i tried them all, all with no luck. my computer, which i custom built with the parts I WANTED, I CHOICE, I BOUGHT, gave me nothing but file corruptions, deleted files, and so much bullshit. my error messages were during boot up when the "all mighty" chkdsk "utility" would run and start deleting bad indexes. well those "bad indexes" happened to be many of my movies, mp3 and sometimes even text files or web server content. html, jpg, and other file i had on my IIS5 web server would be deleted. what i found strange was it would delete a 700mb movie file but leave the actual "visible" icon in the directory. however the file would only show up as 0k, thus it wouldn't work because as far as windows media player is concerned it's not a movie anymore. same thing would happen if i copied a dvd to the hard drive. eventually, chkdsk would come along and delete the indexes upon boot, screw me over, and that's that. i'm left tearing out my hair, yelling at my computer half expecting it to give me the finger and slap me in the face! but we all know that's not true, because microsoft does that all on their own. as for the indexing service, what if i need it? for lets say a web site search engine or just because i search for files alot? i mean, what the hell! microsoft wants to get into the enterprise server ring with UNIX and their workstation systems which are VERY much like their server systems can't run worth shit, corrupt files, and basically just FAIL. given, when Windows works, it works and i like it. hell, i've done some cool things with it, Active Directory, IIS5, System Management Server, etc. all cool software. but how come when it REALLY COUNTS it always fails?! well, to sum it up. has anyone figured a way out of this yet? i mean hell, it's already the end of 2003, i just got in on this forum now. but i got all the windows 2000 updates, and i still fear that one day chkdsk will come along and screw me over. and it's not like i can avoid it. whenever the partition is messed up or there are "performance" problems, i do need to run chkdsk to fix them. and it works. except it does my files with them. not windows files, but bigger files usually. and my hard drive is only an 80gb. my windows is on a different partition. can ANYONE help?!


On Tuesday, November 4, 2003 at 11:24 pm, Grant wrote:
>All I can say is "what better way for a man to alleviate a multi-billion dollar
>lawsuit than to make a crappy product that you will probably try to fix or replace
>with another of his crappy products?" It's like I have the worst case of schizophrenia
>in the world and I've been posting on this sight in my sleep for 2 yrs. I finally
>got tired of not being able to burn anything more than 15kb before my PC/RW spit
>out the cdr. This, I finally decided, was due to MS inability to supply a driver
>that supports all the features for a number of different makes/models of CD-DVDROM
>drives. Being one of the ecstatic millions of unlucky recipient's of the famed "oem
>scam" systems I didn't get a whole lot of help from the PC distributor or the company
>that made the CD-DVDROM drive either. By accident I found myself on Western Digital's
>website looking for an overhaul kit for what sounds like a 1975 shovel- head firing
>up where my hardrive used to reboot and came across the .ZIP file that is suppose
>to fix the problem with our pal Williams' XP drivers. So I nabbed it, unzipped it,
>read the install txt file and installed it along with the CONFIG.SYS\AUTOEXEC.BAT
>file edits they said had to be done to make 'em run and support UDMA. So, needless
>to say, if I've learned anything at all from using anything MS provides is to back
>it up 5 times and hide another copy under you mattress. I reverse edited the config/auto
>files to there original pristine disfunctional condition and rebooted. Got the chkdsk
>prompt and it went off without a hitch. In, fact I've never seen chkdsk works so
>fast. I tried to find what caused the chkdsk to even run as I didn't schedule it.
>Got another prompt from windows' "found hardware" program. Upon investigation a Sony
>memory stick got hooked up to my system and it was needing a driver and so was all
>of my removable media and storage devices. Well to make an epic saga into a low-buck
>paperback I back-peddalled a well executed restore point, ran another sector/recovery
>scan, ad-aware scan, virus scan, McCafee quickclean, thouroughly checked the MMC
>console and firewall logs and even did a completely unnecessary check back at Ole'
>at the Windows' up-chuck site, rebooted, called a psychiatrist, swore off chemical
>substance abuse (side effect Mr. G's technology), and went to bed. Next morning my
>pc still still needed some time to reboot, only 3 of 5 processes completed and a
>prompt "deleting index entry bootex.log in index $I30 of file 5/the file system was
>corrupt and unreadable. Another 2 hrs, later it finally started after it tried and
>did another chkdsk while I was gone. Now, upon 2clicking any file, search assistant
>starts up because Search has become the default action in all my sub-menus, half
>my background services won't run, my cable modem can't acquire an IP address, my
>sound-card is staticy even during windows default sound scheme's, but, you can hear
>a spider fart over my hard drive it's so quiet and evidently Western Digital makes
>the M1A1-ABRAHMS tank of HDD's after a diagnostic scan mine is rating good to healthy
>ratings in every test after 4 yrs. of family PC abuse and 4 OS. Just to put a twist
>on this broadway show. I switched to XP Pro after my 2000 Pro had reduced me to a
>slobbering idiot(again thank's to Bill's snake oil security patches). As if any of
>you people are still reading, here I sit watching my system lose it's hardware/software
>systems one at a time. I think when I get done printing these pdfs of MAC PC's and
>Redhat Linux 9.0 I'll do one more chkdsk on the ol' girl and skip to ma loo with
>my little plastic fortune to my local pc dealer. By the way NTFS here too and I think
>I remember reading something at western digital or rarlab about a DDO device driver
>for high volume harddrive's. Something about exceeding BIOS limits and instead just
>recognizing 80 GB when you have 139 GB. In fact, I remember a couple of you mention
>a 20% loss in accounting your HD space and according to them this appeared on harddrives
>over 138GB. Anyway, keep posting guys I need ideas on how to make this thing really
>run bad. Sorry for the 17 ton vent session. THANX!
>
>n Friday, October 4, 2002 at 10:02 pm, Paul wrote:
>
>I have a question about Prevent 
>file corruption problems:

> >I have tried running the "new" CHKDSK under Windows XP using both the Error Checking >tool in "My Computer/File/Properties" and from the command line. > >When I used the Error Checking tool (without selecting the Automatic fix of file >system errors or the scan for bad sectors) XP displayed a dialogue with a sequence >of messages, telling me that the Error Checker was performing phase 1 of its check, >then phases 2 and 3 and finally a new dialogue appeared telling me that the check >had been completed - and nothing more. > >When I ran CHKDSK from the command prompt, using the command "CHKDSK C: /V" the >output >was more informative: > >"The type of the file system is NTFS. > >WARNING! F parameter not specified. >Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > >CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... >File verification completed. >CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... >Index verification completed. >Detected minor inconsistencies on the drive. >CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3) >Cleaning up 33 unused index entries from index >Cleaning up 33 unused index entries from index >Cleaning up 33 unused security descriptors. >Security descriptor verification completed. >CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... >Usn Journal verification completed. >Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap. >Windows found problems with the file system. >Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct" > >My question is, which should I trust - the Error Checking tool (which I assume invokes >CHKDSK in the background) or the command line? Or perhaps a third party program? >




Written in response to:
re: Question about 'Prevent file corruption problems' (Grant: Tuesday, November 4, 2003 at 11:24 pm)

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