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re: missing files
Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 7:51 am
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Posted by mike (358 messages posted)


Greetings: We'ed like to point out a few things we've noticed with the cyclad and other files missing problem. Just to get this out of the way. This problem plagues legitimate copies of windows XP and Xp pro. Here's what we've noticed. #1: The cyclad... and other missing files occur in the install started from MS-DOS or XP boot disk install including the /i386/winnt.exe technique. #2: When upgrading from within windows 98, the errors of "missing (unable to extract)files" does not occur. #3: When viewing the drivers.cab file in windows 98 one can see and extract the cyclad and the other missing files. *Two out of the five* copies of windows XP we tested had problems with reading the drivers.cab missing files (ex.cyclad,e.t.c.) and other driver & CAB MM files. This includes viewing or extracting the files manualy in windows. Even if the entier windows xp install cd is copied to the HD for quick installation. The missing files problems still persists when done by (fresh install) ms-dos or xp boot/install floppy disk. As far as we can determine. There are either weak sectors on the windows xp install cd's , or the dirver.cab was not properly compiled. As for the no missing files when upgrading . It is conceivable that since windows 98 can read the cab files correctly and retries several times over to read a file . It is possible that the cyclad and other files are perhaps crosslinked or just bad cab files and windows 98 is able to recover the weak data. One person did comment to us that they didn't have a problem with the the missing files when running under an NTFS OS &partition, granted this may be possible. However our NTFS OS & partition test resulted in the same number of missing files as with a fat-32 partition. We did notice a difference when we installed and used a much slower/older cd-rom drive. 9 missing files instead of 14. Our best guess is the "weak sectors" theory. As slower/older cd-rom drives tend to produce less of the missing file errors. However it does not explain why a cd-writter with it's more advanced /accurate reading abilities is not able to read the weak sectors as well while in Ms-dos or NT/XP boot OSthan an old ex. 12x cd-rom drive. Unfortunately there is very little that can be done to undo the dammage to the data in the weak sectors. The missing/unredable files is also rather unstable. It's not always 14 files, it could be 11, or 3, or 15. In other words MS got a bad batch of cd's or the master was defective when making thier copies. Nextly we can't confirm this. However it is possible that if one has smartdrive running when installing xp from dos that it could casue these errors. Though we've never seen evidence of this. We can not confirm the effect of smardrive on Xp install's own cache. Also setting the cd-roms to mode 2 in the cmos/bios did provide a marked improvement in the number or missing file errors. We agree that this is odd . However it only makes sense when a fast cd-rom/writter is used on an older computer system . We hope this helps.


On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote:
>I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf,
>cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important
>are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im
>not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's


Written in response to:
missing files (kristin elizabeth: Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am)

Responses to this message:
*re: missing files (Wesley Tan: Saturday, April 10, 2004 at 2:27 am)
*re: missing files (cold: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 12:09 pm)
*XP Install Missing Files: Correct Fix (Nesmira: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 12:58 am)
*re: missing files (Joel Thayer: Thursday, January 20, 2005 at 5:30 am)
*re: missing files (Joel Thayer: Monday, January 31, 2005 at 5:58 am)

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-re: missing files (Chris: Wed, Nov 27, 2002, 6:23 pm)
-re: missing files (Frodo Baggins: Sat, Jan 4, 2003, 9:51 pm)
-re: missing files (ans) (Tejas: Mon, Jan 13, 2003, 10:28 am)
*re: missing files (ans) (neo4s: Mon, Jan 13, 2003, 11:25 pm)
*re: missing files (ans) (Bobby: Mon, Aug 18, 2003, 12:15 pm)
*re: missing files (ans) (Gerardo Ponce: Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 7:58 am)
-re: missing files (Dave: Sat, May 17, 2003, 5:52 am)
-re: missing files (ekoo: Wed, May 28, 2003, 8:12 am)
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*re: setup wizard (666: Mon, May 12, 2008, 11:14 am)
-re: missing files (TRicK [BZ]: Wed, May 21, 2003, 5:02 am)
*re: missing files (Erno Boer: Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 6:39 am)
-re: missing files SOLUTION (perez: Thu, Jun 5, 2003, 12:31 pm)
-re: missing files SOLUTION (Fabrice Poltoratzky: Wed, Jul 2, 2003, 9:04 am)
-re: missing files SOLUTION (charles: Sat, Jul 19, 2003, 8:14 am)
-re: missing files SOLUTION (Breino: Tue, Jul 29, 2003, 12:35 pm)
-re: missing files SOLUTION (matthew ford: Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 1:23 am)
*re: missing files SOLUTION (gchamby: Tue, Sep 23, 2003, 12:37 pm)
*re: missing files SOLUTION (Larry: Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 6:24 pm)
-re: missing files SOLUTION (J.: Sun, Mar 6, 2005, 4:47 pm)
*re: missing files SOLUTION (Mike L: Sun, Mar 6, 2005, 5:00 pm)
*re: missing files SOLUTION (^curious^boy: Sat, Sep 13, 2003, 6:09 am)
-re: missing files SOLUTION (Don Ramsey: Sat, Apr 3, 2004, 3:05 pm)
*re: missing files SOLUTION (imma: Mon, Apr 5, 2004, 8:25 am)
-re: missing files (another another mike: Sat, Aug 30, 2003, 2:02 pm)
-re: missing files (andy graham: Fri, Oct 10, 2003, 11:57 am)
*re: missing files (hippyer: Sat, Dec 27, 2003, 5:40 am)
-re: missing files (cade: Thu, Jan 1, 2004, 4:32 pm)
-re: missing files (andy graham: Thu, Jan 1, 2004, 4:55 pm)
*re: missing files (ran: Fri, Jan 9, 2004, 10:00 am)
-re: missing files (M. Fahrenholz: Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 8:11 am)
-re: missing files (Fernando: Fri, Jan 30, 2004, 4:49 am)
*re: missing files (Branden: Mon, Feb 9, 2004, 2:47 pm)
-re: missing files (Wesley Tan: Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 2:38 am)
-re: missing files (Bill: Mon, May 31, 2004, 5:53 am)
-re: missing files (Elora: Fri, Jun 4, 2004, 12:40 am)
*re: missing files (cold: Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 11:27 am)
-re: missing files (mike: Sun, Feb 15, 2004, 7:51 am)
*re: missing files (Wesley Tan: Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 2:27 am)
*re: missing files (cold: Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 12:09 pm)
-XP Install Missing Files: Correct Fix (Nesmira: Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 12:58 am)
*XP Install Missing Files: New Info (Nesmira: Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 7:08 pm)
-XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process (Nesmira: Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 10:42 pm)
-re: XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process (PCGUY67: Mon, Apr 25, 2005, 12:27 pm)
*re: XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process (KingG: Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 10:10 am)
*re: XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process (w chung: Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 9:15 am)
*re: XP Install Missing Files: Correct Fix (scott: Sun, Jan 9, 2005, 3:24 am)
-re: missing files (Joel Thayer: Thu, Jan 20, 2005, 5:30 am)
-re: missing files - mine was hardware (Tom Anshultz: Fri, Jan 28, 2005, 2:15 pm)
*What XP version? Mine was corporate pro (Bri: Sat, Jan 29, 2005, 7:23 am)
-re: missing files (Joel Thayer: Mon, Jan 31, 2005, 5:58 am)
-re: missing files (mitsumi19: Thu, Feb 10, 2005, 5:37 pm)
-re: missing files (Mike L: Sun, Feb 13, 2005, 10:17 am)
-re: missing files (J.: Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 2:28 pm)
-re: missing files (Mike L: Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 3:29 pm)
*re: missing files (J.: Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 9:07 pm)
*re: missing files (J.: Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:00 am)
-re: missing files (Bart: Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 11:19 pm)
-re: missing files (Bart: Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 11:44 pm)
-re: missing files (Bart: Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 11:50 pm)
*re: missing files (Stephen G: Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 10:48 am)
-re: missing files (m: Sun, Oct 3, 2004, 5:46 pm)
*re: missing files (mavr: Thu, Nov 11, 2004, 1:05 am)
*re: missing files (fank: Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 6:02 pm)
-I READ the whole thread and this post was the most (Bri: Mon, Jan 17, 2005, 10:24 am)
*re: I READ the whole thread and this post was the most (666: Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:57 pm)
-re: missing files (TBone: Tue, Jul 12, 2005, 1:47 pm)
*re: missing files (Jamie: Sat, Aug 6, 2005, 7:03 am)
-re: missing files (John: Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 8:45 am)
-re: missing files (John: Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 9:38 am)
-re: missing files (Joe Whitehead: Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 11:50 pm)
-The final fix! (SyreneD: Fri, Dec 2, 2005, 2:50 pm)
-Yeah, those are the causes of failure (Joe Whitehead: Fri, Dec 2, 2005, 6:26 pm)
*A simple but important tip (kp1981: Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 6:35 pm)
-re: missing files/ solution ...hmm? (E.Pluribus.Unum: Fri, May 26, 2006, 1:30 pm)
*re: missing files/ solution ...hmm? (stavros: Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 8:07 am)
-re: missing files (M Coffey: Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 11:47 am)
*re: missing files (Michael: Mon, Mar 28, 2005, 10:18 pm)
*re: missing files - found a good solution (Odie: Wed, Mar 30, 2005, 2:56 am)
*re: missing files (TDPepper: Mon, May 22, 2006, 4:19 pm)
-re: missing files (Larry Crowell: Tue, Feb 6, 2007, 8:12 am)
*re: missing files (MartinM: Tue, Feb 6, 2007, 9:23 am)
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