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Zatoichi Update: The Solution To My Problems...Maybe?
Tuesday, February 24, 2004 at 6:54 pm
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Posted by Zatoichi (3 messages posted)


My solution is sort of a guess. But, bear in mind, I've never worked in I.T. and 
I have no professional computer training. This fix is only based on 8 years of building 
and troubleshooting computers. But so far, the problems I had seem to have disappeared.

Anyways, I redid all my computers with Win2k...again! First, I made sure to remove/undo 
any windows user/security/password protected data I had. I did this because I thought 
it would solve the chkdsk utility errors I described in my original post. (My guess 
is, this was the source of my problems) Then, I transferred that backup data to a 
NTFS formatted storage drive. To format the backup storage drive I used a demo utility 
called KillDisk. Here's the link:

http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm

Using Killdisk, I did a secure erase (refer to downloadable Killdisk PDF manual). 
The MFT/partition table is destroyed and zeros are written to the whole drive. This 
process took 4hrs for a 120gb drive, and 2.5 hours each for two 80gb drives. Kind 
of long, but it basically returns the drive into a "fresh from the factory state." 
Using Killdisk was a solution to the "remnant win98se fat32 boot sector" I described 
in my original post.

After my data was backed up. I used KillDisk on both boot/system drives (the two 
80gig drives) and used the same secure erase feature. When all the drives were erased, 
I then used the Western Digital hard drive installation utility to partition and 
format all drives. Afterwards, I resetup both computers by installing Win2k and retransferred 
my backup data to each system. One computer has been on 24 hrs a day, the other computer 
gets used daily 12hrs a day. It's been 4 weeks, and so far, there haven’t been any 
problems. I can't pinpoint which part of my solution fixed the errors, but I'm glad 
that they seem to be gone.

(Note: I had to use the Western Digital partition/format utility because the Win2k 
partition utility during OS installation would not work right. For some reason, Win2k 
could not resize the drives to smaller partitions. This might be due to using the 
KillDisk utility. If you have a different brand hard drive, download a similar partition/reformat 
utility from your manufacture's website and use that instead. This step might be 
unnecessary if you don't use multiple partitions on a single hard drive.)



Hope This Helps,

Ed
Daly City, California






On Friday, October 4, 2002 at 10:02 pm, Paul wrote:
>I have a question about Prevent 
>file corruption problems:

> >I have tried running the "new" CHKDSK under Windows XP using both the Error Checking >tool in "My Computer/File/Properties" and from the command line. > >When I used the Error Checking tool (without selecting the Automatic fix of file >system errors or the scan for bad sectors) XP displayed a dialogue with a sequence >of messages, telling me that the Error Checker was performing phase 1 of its check, >then phases 2 and 3 and finally a new dialogue appeared telling me that the check >had been completed - and nothing more. > >When I ran CHKDSK from the command prompt, using the command "CHKDSK C: /V" the output >was more informative: > >"The type of the file system is NTFS. > >WARNING! F parameter not specified. >Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. > >CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... >File verification completed. >CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... >Index verification completed. >Detected minor inconsistencies on the drive. >CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3) >Cleaning up 33 unused index entries from index >Cleaning up 33 unused index entries from index >Cleaning up 33 unused security descriptors. >Security descriptor verification completed. >CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... >Usn Journal verification completed. >Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap. >Windows found problems with the file system. >Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct" > >My question is, which should I trust - the Error Checking tool (which I assume invokes >CHKDSK in the background) or the command line? Or perhaps a third party program?




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Question about 'Prevent file corruption problems' (Paul: Friday, October 4, 2002 at 10:02 pm)

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