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re: what abt the
Monday, June 7, 2004 at 6:05 pm
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Posted by Tony Stewart (1 messages posted)


I suspect the Explorer.exe crash in XP is due to resources that have been exceeded or an explorer APP stack failure occured. Or perhaps a permission conflict between the virus running and the protection of on-access AV scanners.... File Handles and GUI objects both are much better handled than win98/ME but are not infinite. 98 was limited to 2MB regardless on how much RAM you had. I have XP Pro with 1GB of RAM can vouch for dozens of situations on different APPs that are "resource hogs" that cause Explorer.exe or another APP to crash. Check Ctl-Alt-Del > Process List and View > Select Columns and add File Handles and GUI Objects. If you have several apps with handles > 1000, wonder why and reduce it if possible or trim all the fat in startup APPS and resource hogs. For example AVG is much leaner than NAV and is adequate. AVAST (ashserve) an A.V. APP can consume 9999 handles when on-access scanning is monitored in popup lists when , svchost.exe can be sharing many Services to find out RUN > CMD Tasklist.exe -svc and compare PIDs with Process list in Task Manager. and see the # Handles. Don't confuse VM or memory of APP in memory and resources. Get Proc. Explorer from Sysinternals.com to see and learn. Your Best tools are un-install, Restore, run SFC /SCANNOW and disable most Startups and un-ncessary APPS to trim your XP resources and it will run faster and smoother. But don't discount a worm causing a stack overflow in explorer from the on-access AV scanner in NAV or the TCP rule scanner in NIS or similar resource hogs.


On Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 2:52 am, Mike wrote:
>I seem to be narrowing down the problem.
>
>There is definately a compatability issue between XP Home and NIS2003 which has only
>arisen as a result of a recent update. XP Pro does not seem to have the same problem.
>
>While upgarding to NIS 2004 resolves the system speed and internet speed problems
>and prevents the timing out etc, depending whether you have a network installed you
>may appear to lose some of your notification icons and have problems with your email.
>
>
>The problem seems to be caused by the new network identification facility built into
>NIS2004. If you are running on a peer to peer network and had other computers running
>during the original installation it will set this as the default network, and after
>installation and some configuration everything seems to be fine and dandy. But later,
>should you boot up and the other pcs are not turned on, NIS thinks "I can't see the
>other PCs therefore you must be on a different network, therefore I'm going to screw
>up all your settings and block everything in a very unuser friendly way."
>
>Depending on how you use your network the best solution seems to be to uninstall
>NIS2004, turn all the other pcs on the network off and reinstall it on the machine
>you usually switch on first. You can install it on the others with this machine
>still running as it normally would be when you boot them up.
>
>I know this won't solve all the problems being reported in this thread but I know
>it has solved mine, and 2 colleagues.
>
>Regards
>Mike
>


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re: what abt the (Mike: Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 2:52 am)

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-re: what abt the (jcw: Thu, Nov 13, 2003, 4:05 pm)
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-re: what abt the (jcw: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 12:24 pm)
-re: what abt the (Kris: Fri, Dec 5, 2003, 8:11 am)
-re: what abt the (jcw: Fri, Dec 5, 2003, 9:55 am)
-re: what abt the (Sketchee: Sun, Dec 7, 2003, 9:57 pm)
*re: what abt the (jcw: Sun, Dec 7, 2003, 10:24 pm)
*Missing tray icons (JKL: Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 3:33 am)
-re: what abt the (Rick: Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 3:15 pm)
-re: what abt the (Mike: Wed, May 19, 2004, 7:26 am)
*re: Explorer.exe (David Costello: Fri, May 21, 2004, 9:17 pm)
-re: what abt the (Mike: Sat, May 22, 2004, 2:52 am)
-re: what abt the (Tony Stewart: Mon, Jun 7, 2004, 6:05 pm)
-re: what abt the (dns: Wed, Jun 30, 2004, 11:57 pm)
*re: what abt the (James Burke: Fri, Sep 3, 2004, 3:34 am)
-re: what abt the (flatware: Mon, Dec 6, 2004, 6:55 am)
*re: what abt the (Bullish Bear: Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 3:28 pm)
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*re: what abt the (Jameilious: Mon, Jul 18, 2005, 12:21 am)
*re: what abt the (Panther: Mon, Dec 29, 2003, 6:55 am)
-re: what abt the (gondos: Tue, Jan 13, 2004, 6:26 pm)
-re: what abt the (stu: Tue, Jan 27, 2004, 2:44 pm)
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-re: Same problems (Frank James: Tue, Feb 3, 2004, 6:48 pm)
-re: Same problems (Lemur: Wed, Mar 10, 2004, 11:58 am)
-re: Same problems (pete edwards: Sat, Mar 13, 2004, 2:35 am)
*re: Same problems (pete edwards: Sun, Mar 14, 2004, 4:06 am)
-re: what abt the (Peter Robinson: Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 6:04 pm)
-re: what abt the (Bart H: Tue, Jul 19, 2005, 3:39 pm)
-re: what abt the (Judy: Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 7:55 pm)
-re: what abt the (Judy: Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 12:47 pm)
-Error 1002 (Hari: Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 11:36 pm)
-re: Error 1002 (davidjoho: Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 9:25 am)
-re: dissapearing icons and quick launch (Paul J.: Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 5:49 pm)
*re: disappearing icons and quick launch (Merlin: Wed, Jun 13, 2007, 1:29 am)
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