re: system hangs on boot at text windows loading screen
Friday, July 2, 2004 at 3:16 am
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Posted by Giuseppe
(1 messages posted)
Hi I would like to join the group.
I read through all the stream and I think I have another thing to add.
I have a XP athlon 2000 on a MSI Moboand 6280E a Maxtor + another Drive I Also have
a DVD - RW and a CR -RW both connected to a Ulta ATA 133 PCI card (SIIG).
I used to have all my system working when because of the latest updates I decided
to apply the patches from Live Windows update.
I disconnected while the patches where downloaded (few seconds after I started so
I thought no changes were applied but it looks like I was wrong). Since that I cannot
boot to Windows 2000 with Both the DVD and CD connected .
I tried everything :
- Bios upgrade
-Windows upgrade.
-Moving the PCI card.
-Move one ov the CD to the on board IDE.
no luck. as long I have both the DVD and the CD connected I can't go on the system
hangs (it used to be on mup.sys but since the SP3 upgrade the safe mode doesn't show
the logs any more. Any idea ?)
Note: I moved DVD in all the possible places and it did work. Then I tryed the same
for the CD and it did work.
As long as I connected only one device it's ok.
For some time I also receved the the following message:
STOP X1E KMODE_EXCEPTION or the IQL_NOT_LESS ,
but wen in Safe Mode always the system stopped on mup.sys. To tell more the Stop
messages stopped when I changed the P&P O/S swith uin the BIOS to Yes or disabling
the Bios Cache.
I now don't get them any more (who knows).
AnyWay does anyone have a clue of why I cannot connect the Two Drivers ? (is there
any conflit in the Windows drivers ? I could I refresh and delete all the CD/DVD
drivers from windows and try from scratch ?)
Help please !!!!
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004 at 11:05 am, Mr. Brown wrote:
>OK I have a special situation that seems to shed some light on this problem. I am
>setting up a common image for our campus to use across multiple hardware platforms.
>I am doing a sysprep then copying the image to a network volume then porting the
>image to a new configuration this has worked in the past windows 2000 pre sp2 now
>that I am attempting this with windows 2000 SP4 I am getting the dreaded hang at
>mup.sys error (or whatever depending on the last driver loaded).... this is after
>the 4th suscessful move. The machine that is choking is a 1 ghz INTEL PIII (sorry
>this is not an AMD problem). And for those farmilar yes I have imported the universal
>disks registry files.
>The issue is a result of a change in the windows 2000 bootloader between SP2 and
>SP4 (and at some point in XP). There is some kind of bug that does not hand off
the
>control to the windows 2000 kernel correctly after some kind of hardware change.
>The bootloader seems to have the same issues in XP. It loads the kernel files into
>memory, as well as setting, irqs, dmas and i/o values. A change that is made to
those
>values either either in bios or windows and the loader freezes when it attempts
to
>move pass control, this is apparent in the fact that the next screen you should
see
>if all works well is the windows splash screen.
>Now I have tried all variations of hardware in the motherboard, including disabling
>everything but the essentials, multiple video cards, harddrives, memory, even identical
>motherboards (different motherboards work fine). Even a bios upgrade this is a intel
>815 motherboard both original and newest bios have been tried. The only common problem
>between all these cases is the hardware handling at the point where the bootloader
>passes control to the OS. THIS MUST BE ADDRESSED BY WINDOWS. There is a workaround
>that we can use in the mean time forcing the system to do a full redetect of plug
>and play be some method (moving/changing/removing hardware enough hardware).
>Windows must fix this bug, but don't expect them to admit that this problem exists
>until they have a fix ready to go. And they are in no rush because if you are changing
>you hardware configuration (drastically at they think but even minor changes can
>trigger this bug) then you must be trying to steal thier software.
>Anyway, if you are reading this and you work for Microsoft FIX THIS PLEASE!! otherwise
>I feel your pain.
>Mr. Brown
>
>
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