moses, your solution worked! =)
Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 5:21 am
Windows XP Annoyances Discussion Forum
Posted by EK
(1 messages posted)
I can't thank you, moses enough!!! tnx so much, your solution worked! I have just
as you said cloned my harddrive (XP) and should put it into antother computer and
then this happened, that I couldn't get into windows OR safemode...tnx again! You
saved me a lot of hours =)
//EK
On Monday, July 12, 2004 at 3:07 am, moses wrote:
>I know my post may sound a bit out of line, but I believe it's gonna help someone
>here in some way or another, I can almost guarantee you that one. My trouble with
>XP lasted about 3 days. Specifically, I'm gonna talk about these things:
> - Cloning
> - Mup.sys
> - Activation
>I see very little mention of the word *Activation*, but I have to stress that activation
>has a lot to do with hardware! This means that when you mess with XP's activation
>mechanism, then XP may Not even *report* to you that you are tempering with it's
>Activation mechanism, so you could be stuck without a clue for many hours/days.
You
>may be left with a hanging screen (typically the Mup.sys mentioned all over here).
>This might also explain why there is No discussion about this topic on MS websites.
>Anyway, why would you expect to find a place for *Activation Bypass* on any of the
>MS websites :-)
>
>My post applies to the following symptoms:
> 1. You cloned your XP hard disk to another hard disk and
> now you want to start the cloned XP on another/new system
> which probably has different hardware.
>
> 2. You are attempting to start XP on a machine
> where you did Not do the Setup, ie: You came
> with a HDD that already had XP installed on it
> and you attempted starting that HDD/XP on another
> machine (possibly with lots of different hardware).
>
> 3. You attempted re-installing XP from the XP CD onto
> the new system, but still with the cloned HDD in it!
> ie: You Don't want to Partition/Format the HDD and do
> a clean install, because you Don't want to lose your data.
>
>Normally, the new machine should attempt booting properly, unless it really, I mean
>REALLY has broken hardware. if you have broken hardware, then I suggest you test
>the hardware by installing another OS on it. Lindows OS is a very good OS for testing
>hardware,
> 1. Lindows OS runs from a CD (No need to install/setup on HDD)
> 2. Lindows will test & use lots of RAM, if your RAM
> is somehow corrupt, you're sure to see Lindows crashing!
> 3. Of course Lindows uses the Processor. A faulty CPU chip
> would Not go far with Lindows!
> 4. You VGA/AGP adapter will be equally put to test by Lindows.
>
>Other good choices of alternative OS are BeOS, FreeDOS & Linux. If Lindows (or whatever
>you chose as alternative OS) loads & boots properly, then we can rule out the possibility
>of faulty hardware, at least CPU, RAM and VGA. Alright, let's move on...
>
>From this point on I have to assume that you have No broken hardware. Now is the
>time to come back to XP.
>
>When you attempt starting XP on the new system, it hangs on Mup.sys (in SAFE-MODE).
>I believe the reason it hangs will be activation related. Remember, when XP sees
>too much NEW Hardware (new onboard chips, BIOS, etc) then it thinks you're messing
>with its activation. You can try to remove add-on cards, disable onboard USB/devices,
>etc. You can even try to re-install XP from the CD or even from setup files on the
>HDD itself, it may still hang at Mup.sys or In fact, when you reinstall, it may
hang
>at the Repair screen or some other screen earlier/later than the Repair screen.
As
>long as the HDD you're trying to install to has a working/activated installation
>of XP, XP will try to prevent you from even repairing that installation, because
>there is too much New Hardware and that's against the activation law. Ideally, you
>would want to Partition or Format the HDD and then do a clean install (but you obviously
>Don't want to do that!).
>
>My suggestion is actually very simple. It doesn't need all this typing. I suggest
>that you take the HDD back to the original system where it boots properly, or just
>put it into any system where it boots without problems. Once you've done that, just
>start the XP Setup/Installation on that system. To be more specific, copy the setup
>files from the CD to the HDD (in Windows Explorer) and then run XP setup from the
>HDD right there within Windows Explorer by simply double-cliking the Setup.exe file
>(Make sure that you are Not double-clicking setup.exe from the CD or from the DOS
>Prompt, etc).
>
>What you're basically doing is that you are Re-installing XP, even if you and I
know
>that there's Nothing wrong with the currently installed XP on that HDD, cuz it just
>booted properly on this other/old hardware and here you just got to the Desktop,
>isn't it? :-)
>
>When the XP setup begins, you will see it preparing a lot of things and it will
examine
>the system and copy setup files, etc. A few minutes later, it will want to **Restart**
>the system for the First Time! Now this is the place where we're gonna catch it.
>When it restarts the system for the First Time, Don't let that Setup to Ever boot
>on that system again! Let it shutdown, but when the system is busy doing the POST
>or loading the BIOS (Before it Boots!!), turn the system off, remove power and take
>the HDD out.
>
>Go back to your new system and connect the HDD in there. Now you should be able
to
>**CONTINUE** with the XP Setup on the new system which has Lots of New/Different
>hardware. Now, what's gonna happen is that this XP installation/setup process is
>Not as strict as the other process of trying to boot a previously activated XP on
>a new system (system with Lots of New Hardware). Normally the XP Setup will be more
>forgiving than a cloned XP installation being started/booted on a system with lots
>of New Hardware. Just continue with the setup and let it finish. You should Not
Lose
>any of your data & settings (even Desktop settings) since you are simply Re-installing
>XP, you are Not doing a clean-install by Partitioning/Formatting.
>
>Although I put a great deal of typing into explaining this process with so much
detail,
>my post can actually be summarized as follows.
>
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