re: icons missing from system tray Tuesday, April 26, 2005 at 7:24 pm Windows XP Annoyances Discussion Forum Posted by Clumsy Hamster (1 messages posted) So, I read through everything that everyone mentioned and tried them all without any luck. I then did a search on removing system tray and found it to be a part to add to the registry and to activate it by either a 0 or turn it off with a 1. I entered the registry value and it worked. Here are the instructions. Open up the registry (run > regedit) browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SOFTWARE > Microsoft > Windows > CurrentVersion > policies Create a new key named "Explorer" without the quotes (right click > New > Key) Create a new DWORD Value named "NoTrayItemsDisplay" without the quotes (right click > New > DWORD Value) Modify the NoTrayItemsDisplay and make sure the value is 0 (right click > Modify) Reboot and all should be fine. Good luck On Sunday, April 24, 2005 at 9:32 am, Brent wrote: >Tech Guy, > >You're right. I don't know if you read my post from November 2004 above...but I >gave a step-by-step on how to do this...if anyone needs it. > >Brent Martel >brent.martel@gmail.com > > > Written in response to: re: icons missing from system tray (Brent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 at 9:32 am) Responses to this message: re: icons missing from system tray (CAM: Friday, May 13, 2005 at 5:35 am) re: icons missing from system tray (Thingfish: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 at 10:28 am) All messages in this thread [show all] icons missing from system tray (Louis: Wed, Oct 9, 2002, 9:48 pm) re: icons missing from system tray (jcw: Wed, Oct 9, 2002, 10:52 pm) re: icons missing from system tray (Critter: Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 12:06 am) re: icons missing from system tray (HC: Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 1:01 pm) re: icons missing from system tray (Louis: Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 4:26 pm) re: icons missing from system tray (texfisk: Wed, Jan 29, 2003, 9:21 am) re: icons missing from system tray (Bob: Sun, Feb 2, 2003, 10:50 pm) re: 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