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re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer!
Thursday, April 2, 2009 at 9:20 pm
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Posted by raminder singh (92 messages posted)


Thank you for continuing to think about my problem and its possible resolution. Let 
me report some experiments (accidental and deliberate) that have been done on the 
system since my last post.

I did disconnect the DVD. The subsequent boot resulted in the usual quota of Event 
11 errors. So I reconnected it.

Some 24 hours ago, while listing the programs I might have to reinstall in case something 
went wrong, I noted that I had updated (really installed) Openoffice from version 
2.2 to 3.0 on the 13th March -- around the time when the UPS crashed (unfortunately 
I did not note that date). Thinking that this update might have something to do with 
my problems, I uninstalled Openoffice and went through the usual sequence, looking 
for Event 11 errors. Not finding any change, I reinstalled Openoffice.

Later in the day, I happened to have removed the ADSL cable (for some unrelated reason) 
and turned on the UPS power (but did not press the Start button on the box) when 
I had to attend to some other matter. Some 15 minutes later I came back and pressed 
the Start button and again had to leave the computer for about 15 minutes. Then I 
clicked on the limited user icon (the one I usually use) to log on. The desktop came 
up very quickly, as usual, but I waited until the HDD light had more or less ceased 
to be active ( I have noticed that the HDD light remains active for over a minute 
or two after the hour-glass icon vanishes). Then I looked at the Event viewer log 
(System), to find, amazingly, no errors whatever!! This suggested that some hardware 
performed differently after it had warmed up? I postponed a repeat of this experiment 
to the next morning, because I get the most event 11 errors at the first start of 
the day. 

Since the system seemed to be behaving well, I decided to run DriveImage and image 
the C: drive, which had taken 31 minutes some days ago (when I first posted about 
my problem). The imaging went at the speed I was used to and was done in less than 
5 minutes! I have no idea why, unless the uninstall and reinstall of Openoffice has 
some bearing on the matter.

This morning I repeated the Start-with-long delays experiment, of the kind described 
above. It was a failure, with the event viewer log showing several Event 11 errors, 
disappointing me! I decided to recheck the DriveImage imaging and found that it still 
happens in less than 5 minutes. However, the ERUNT backup took 3 or 4 times longer 
than it used to, so all in not normal. Annoyances experts, I have noted, are not 
impressed by Registry cleaners, but should I try to use Regcleaner (I have an ancient 
version) to clean the registry?

Finally, I attempted a re-start with minimum delays (as I used to do until 3 weeks 
or so ago). After the desktop showed up and the hourglass icon vanished, I clicked 
on the Start button intending to open the Control Panel. The computer froze and I 
got a BSOD with a  Stop 0x0000007A or KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR. A subsequent restart 
and viewing of the event viewer log expectedly showed a long string of event 11 errors.

In conclusion, I have little doubt that some piece of hardware has been damaged. 
I will try Lenovo's website, as you suggest, to look for some comprehensive hardware 
testing utility. Meanwhile there is not much I can do except to use the computer 
carefully and be prepared for a hardware breakdown with frequent backups..

Thank you for reading this long account. If anything new and interesting happens, 
I will report back.

raminder singh






On Thursday, April 2, 2009 at 10:35 am, Jacob6601 wrote:
>Verification of a hardware fault, in addition to the Event 11 entries, might be done
>with DriveImage. Go to http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm
>and follow the link at "You can run DriveImage XML from a WinPE boot CD-ROM" to create
>a new image of your drive. There will be a normal time variance, but if it (imaging)
>drops back below five minutes (and that is the DriveImage you were using), xp (or
>the DriveImage install on c:) is at fault.
>
>If it does turn out to be xp, DriveImage (from above link) "uses Microsoft's Volume
>Shadow Services (VSS)" and we will need to look into restoring that.
>
>Go ahead and disconnect the DVD. If you can replace the cable without breaking seals,
>do it. As Ricer said, a PATA drive would not boot. Besides, you need to look at that
>SATA channel.
>
>You might check at Lenovo to see if they have a bootable CD for comprehensive hardware
>testing. Other than that, start documenting all symptoms in one place for return.
>Disk check utilities are guides and in no way comprehensive. Even if the drive is
>fine, something down the line is off. And if it is not the drive or cable, it is
>on the board.



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re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Thursday, April 2, 2009 at 10:35 am)

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*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Thursday, April 2, 2009 at 10:37 pm)

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-Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 9:29 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 1:34 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 6:32 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 9:10 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 9:17 pm)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Ricer46: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 3:37 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 10:35 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 9:20 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 10:37 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 2:10 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (MartinM: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 3:47 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 4:38 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (MartinM: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 5:00 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 4:41 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Sat, Apr 4, 2009, 7:06 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 7:54 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 12:02 pm)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 6:29 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 12:25 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Mon, May 11, 2009, 2:52 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (MartinM: Mon, May 11, 2009, 7:24 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Mon, May 11, 2009, 6:00 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Wed, May 13, 2009, 8:57 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Thu, May 14, 2009, 9:16 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Fri, May 15, 2009, 6:06 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, May 15, 2009, 9:26 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 4:30 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 6:41 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 10:28 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Mon, Apr 6, 2009, 6:52 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Mon, Apr 6, 2009, 7:03 am)
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