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re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer!
Wednesday, April 8, 2009 at 12:25 am
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Posted by raminder singh (92 messages posted)


Final report:

The Lenovo system toolbox had required me to download and install .NET Framework 
2.0. Doing so cleared all System Restore points, it appears. I was able to use the 
toolbox (as I reported) but found later that the computer froze (with a STOP error) 
 when it tried to run a screen saver. Guessing that .NET was responsible, I uninstalled 
it and installed Framework 2.0 sp1 instead. No problems with the version sp1 so far. 
Anyway, the System Restore entries, which you had suggested clearing, have got thoroughly 
cleared!

I tried the screen experiments you advised. No error appeared.

Today I obtained and replaced the SATA cable. Unfortunately, occasional Event 11 
errors continue to turn up. 

So far there are two observations that have a bearing on the appearance of these 
errors. On one occasion I noticed that HDD light activity ceased quickly after the 
welcome screen came up. And when I clicked on the user icon, the light again quietened 
down quickly after the desktop and its icons appeared. I started a program immediately. 
Event viewer showed no error. So I switched users and again found that the HDD light 
went off quickly. And I used a program on this profile also. Again no errors showed. 
However, usually the HDD light continues to show activity, and if one clicks on a 
user icon without waiting for the light to go still, one or more errors show up. 
Also, no matter how long I wait, one error does show up when the first user profile 
icon is clicked, except on the rare occasions like the one described earlier in this 
paragraph. However no further errors appear, no matter how the session of use, unless 
I switch users (which I seldom do).

Finally, the computer is working as well as it ever did. It occurs to me that these 
errors may always have been present in this machine! I never used to look at the 
activity of the HDD light, or at the Event viewer logs (except Winlogon after a chkdsk). 
I started looking at the System log only after the UPS crashed, a user profile got 
corrupted and I started getting STOP errors. Unless I run into more trouble of some 
kind, I will pretend that the machine, at this point, is as good as new!

Thank you for your help.

Raminder Singh






On Sunday, April 5, 2009 at 12:02 pm, Jacob6601 wrote:
>Final thoughts:
>
>While thinking on the mysterious DriveImage fix, it seems that if you had errors
>in the "system backup" data, that could have been causing the Volume Shadow Services
>(VSS) to tie up. Removing/re-installing that app caused it to write new (and thus
>erase older) backup points. You might try turning "system backup" off, rebooting,
>etc. to completely clear the data out.
>
>The event 11 and event 5 errors, and their timing, may be hard to pinpoint. I would
>do as you are -- simply monitor the situation as best you can. You could Use Notepad
>to Create a Log File, in "all users\desktop", and open it at power on/user switch
>for a time stamp compare as you check the event viewer less frequently.
>
>Those events could also be caused by EMI noise. Again, I would try the cable (bad
>shielding) first. This is a cheap try at the most likely suspect. And most stores
>should accept the cable for return if it does not work. It is, after all, just wire.
>
>When replacing the cable, I should have noted that there is no need to remove the
>old one, simply unplug at both ends. Do not try to neatly route a replacement unless
>the problem is fixed.
>
>You want to keep this episode in mind if you ever have network problems. That NIC
>causing noise on the bus would be my second suspect to the event 11 and event 5 errors.
>
>The only other thing I can think of that might change at user switch (causing noise)
>would be the screen. Open a command prompt and use ALT-ENTER to switch between full
>screen/window a few times. Open the display properties and switch to a few higher
>and lower resolutions. Just cancel this out at the "do you want to keep this ..."
>box. Now check the event viewer.
>
>Use Notepad to Create a Log File = http://support.microsoft.com/kb/260563



Written in response to:
re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Sunday, April 5, 2009 at 12:02 pm)

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*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Monday, May 11, 2009 at 2:52 am)

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-Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 9:29 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 1:34 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 6:32 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 9:10 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 9:17 pm)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Ricer46: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 3:37 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 10:35 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 9:20 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Thu, Apr 2, 2009, 10:37 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 2:10 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (MartinM: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 3:47 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 4:38 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (MartinM: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 5:00 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, Apr 3, 2009, 4:41 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Sat, Apr 4, 2009, 7:06 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 7:54 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 12:02 pm)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 6:29 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 12:25 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Mon, May 11, 2009, 2:52 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (MartinM: Mon, May 11, 2009, 7:24 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Mon, May 11, 2009, 6:00 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Wed, May 13, 2009, 8:57 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Thu, May 14, 2009, 9:16 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (Jacob6601: Fri, May 15, 2009, 6:06 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Fri, May 15, 2009, 9:26 am)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 4:30 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Wed, Apr 1, 2009, 6:41 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Sun, Apr 5, 2009, 10:28 pm)
-re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (raminder singh: Mon, Apr 6, 2009, 6:52 am)
*re: Erunt and DriveImage backups suddenly taking 10 times longer! (normanw: Mon, Apr 6, 2009, 7:03 am)
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