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NETBEUI in Windows XP
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NETBEUI in Windows XP
Friday, October 5, 2001 at 10:14 pm Posted by Mike Mitchell
(3 messages posted)
I work in a computer shop doing repairs, upgrades, networking,
and various other stuff. I just had my first experience with XP today
and made a horrifying discovery! NETBEUI had been removed
from the list of networking protocals! This is the single protocal that
will fix 99.9% of all LAN problems and make the different versions of
windows (95, 98, NT, 2000) all talk to each other. Is there any way
to use NETBEUI in Windows XP, or is there a suitable replacement?
Life without NETBEUI will really suck. Please help. Any insight will do.
P. S. I do know how to set up a LAN using TCP/IP, so please don't offer
that as a solution :-). Thanks
Mike
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Nevermind. I Found It on the XP CD. DOH
Friday, October 5, 2001 at 10:45 pm Posted by Mike Mitchell
(3 messages posted)
Shoulda looked a bit closer before panicking and running to the forums.
For anyone else wondering, it's on the cd in:
D:\Valueadd\msft\net\netbeui
Click on add protocal, then have disk, then point it to that dir.
Cheers,
Mike
On Friday, October 5, 2001 at 10:14 pm, Mike Mitchell wrote:
>I work in a computer shop doing repairs, upgrades, networking,
>and various other stuff. I just had my first experience with XP today
>and made a horrifying discovery! NETBEUI had been removed
>from the list of networking protocals! This is the single protocal that
>will fix 99.9% of all LAN problems and make the different versions of
>windows (95, 98, NT, 2000) all talk to each other. Is there any way
>to use NETBEUI in Windows XP, or is there a suitable replacement?
>Life without NETBEUI will really suck. Please help. Any insight will do.
>
>P. S. I do know how to set up a LAN using TCP/IP, so please don't offer
>that as a solution :-). Thanks
>
>Mike
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re: NETBEUI in Windows XP
Saturday, October 6, 2001 at 7:30 am Posted by Nords
(2 messages posted)
I have a problem networking XP to a 98SE machine. I previously had two 98SE machines
networking with no problems at all, using Netbeui, as you described in your post.
Speed was good, good response time, no problems, and safe. I have recently upgraded
the main 98SE machine to WinXP. I've setup ICS, which works, but what's strange
is that the 98SE client machine gets better bandwidth than the host WinXP machine.
I've done broadband tweaks on both, but XP nearly cuts in half my downstream bandwidth.
Anyway, the main point, is that the WinXP host machine is terribly slow at accessing
the shared folders on the client 98SE machine. I thought installing Netbeui would
solve it, but apparently it refuses to use Netbeui alone(which I could do with two
98SE machines). Am I doing something wrong? Could you detail, as much as you like,
how you have your WinXP network setup? I can access the other machine, but it seems
only with TCP/IP, and it's really slow in response... it generally takes about 10
seconds or more for the folder list to come up, and I have a 100mbps switch with
100mbps full duplex NIC's. As I said, this wasn't a problem with 2 98SE machines
with Netbeui, fast... but WinXP is having speed problems and I've tried just about
all the setting options I can imagine. Thanks for any insight.
So in summary I would like advice on two things:
* Improving/Understanding the slower downstream performance of the Winxp host machine
in comparison to the 'faster' client Win98SE(that goes through the WinXP machine!)
* Improving/Understanding the slow response time and performance of my WinXP host
to Win98SE client in accessing shared files. It takes 10 seconds or more to access
anything, and I can't seem to copy anything
either. Also, exclusively using Netbeui as the file sharing protocol instead of
TCP or IPX.
I appreciate your time and knowledge.
If anyone else has any ideas, please post, thanks.
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re: NETBEUI in Windows XP
Monday, October 8, 2001 at 8:40 am Posted by John
(1 messages posted)
have either of you tried to enable netbios over IPX/SPX? I have cured a multitude
of lan issues, even across differring os versions, by this simple change.
I dislike resorting to netbui as a 'fix' due to security exploits it opens up.
On Saturday, October 6, 2001 at 7:30 am, Nords wrote:
>I have a problem networking XP to a 98SE machine. I previously had two 98SE machines
>networking with no problems at all, using Netbeui, as you described in your post.
> Speed was good, good response time, no problems, and safe. I have recently upgraded
>the main 98SE machine to WinXP. I've setup ICS, which works, but what's strange
>is that the 98SE client machine gets better bandwidth than the host WinXP machine.
> I've done broadband tweaks on both, but XP nearly cuts in half my downstream bandwidth.
> Anyway, the main point, is that the WinXP host machine is terribly slow at accessing
>the shared folders on the client 98SE machine. I thought installing Netbeui would
>solve it, but apparently it refuses to use Netbeui alone(which I could do with two
>98SE machines). Am I doing something wrong? Could you detail, as much as you like,
>how you have your WinXP network setup? I can access the other machine, but it seems
>only with TCP/IP, and it's really slow in response... it generally takes about 10
>seconds or more for the folder list to come up, and I have a 100mbps switch with
>100mbps full duplex NIC's. As I said, this wasn't a problem with 2 98SE machines
>with Netbeui, fast... but WinXP is having speed problems and I've tried just about
>all the setting options I can imagine. Thanks for any insight.
>
>So in summary I would like advice on two things:
>
>* Improving/Understanding the slower downstream performance of the Winxp host machine
>in comparison to the 'faster' client Win98SE(that goes through the WinXP machine!)
>
>* Improving/Understanding the slow response time and performance of my WinXP host
>to Win98SE client in accessing shared files. It takes 10 seconds or more to access
>anything, and I can't seem to copy anything
>either. Also, exclusively using Netbeui as the file sharing protocol instead of
>TCP or IPX.
>
>I appreciate your time and knowledge.
>
>If anyone else has any ideas, please post, thanks.
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