I have a question about Boot Directly into DOS:

How can this be done in Win XP??? Any help appreciated, Thanks.

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Unless you have:

A. A boot floppy with DOS on it
B. DOS installed on a partition and set up as a boot option

you can't. XP is NT-based, and does not sit on top of DOS like Windows 9x or earlier.

If you really need a DOS prompt for some reason, you can format a floppy in XP as an MS-DOS startup disk. Just right-click on your floppy drive, select Format, and check that option.

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In XP, go START RUN and type COMMAND (enter) and you're looking right at an MS-DOS window. It even says so. Then type SET and it shows that it's really the NT OS. However, good luck in booting to DOS. The closest you can get to that, is repeatedly tapping the F8 key just before it first boots up into XP, and then choosing the menu selection (I think) COMMAND PROMPT ONLY, and that boots to something like DOS. I think we're looking at Windows running under DOS, instead of DOS running under Windows. The DOS commands are all there; type HELP and see the variety of familiar commands. Booting to this sucker is another story.


On Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 2:05 am, Ashe Corven wrote:
>I have a question about Boot
>Directly into DOS:

>
>
>How can this be done in Win XP???
>Any help appreciated, Thanks.

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A DOS window is not the answer. Some people want to run DOS applications and run them clean in memory, not have Lose9X in memory ready to interfere and f*** up anything running. (Anyone who objects to users wanting to control their own computer instead of Mr. Bill deciding what one should use has no business looking at annoyances.org. I'm not directly referring to you, Tom S.)


On Friday, December 21, 2001 at 5:53 am, Tom S wrote:
>In XP, go START RUN and type COMMAND (enter) and you're looking right at an MS-DOS
>window. It even says so. Then type SET and it shows that it's really the NT OS. However,
>good luck in booting to DOS. The closest you can get to that, is repeatedly tapping
>the F8 key just before it first boots up into XP, and then choosing the menu selection
>(I think) COMMAND PROMPT ONLY, and that boots to something like DOS. I think we're
>looking at Windows running under DOS, instead of DOS running under Windows. The DOS
>commands are all there; type HELP and see the variety of familiar commands.
>Booting to this sucker is another story.

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I managed to change something in the windows directory that prevents me from getting into windows at all. When I boot using F8, there is no option to boot into the command prompt. The closest choice is "safe mode with command prompt". As even safe mode no longer works, is there actually any way to get to the command prompt, or will I be forced to reinstall windows?


On Friday, December 21, 2001 at 5:53 am, Tom S wrote:
>In XP, go START RUN and type COMMAND (enter) and you're looking right at an MS-DOS
>window. It even says so. Then type SET and it shows that it's really the NT OS. However,
>good luck in booting to DOS. The closest you can get to that, is repeatedly tapping
>the F8 key just before it first boots up into XP, and then choosing the menu selection
>(I think) COMMAND PROMPT ONLY, and that boots to something like DOS. I think we're
>looking at Windows running under DOS, instead of DOS running under Windows. The DOS
>commands are all there; type HELP and see the variety of familiar commands.
>Booting to this sucker is another story.

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well i have teh sam problem.... i was hacking my ntoskrnl.exe to change my bootscreen....all i did was change bitmaps 1,8,10 to my liking and copied the new one over the old ntoskrnl.exe and now for some reason windows wont even start, and when i tryto boot into safemode w/ or w/o command prompt it wont load ntoskrnl.exe ......and when i formated a floppy disk to boot me into dos it works but...when i switch over to c:\ it only allows me to see the 3gig partition i have setup...witch contains only my computer games, it will not allow me to see the stuff on the other 77gigs of space witch contains my OS i tried typing "cd windows" while in c:\ and it cant find it then i typed "dir" and all it showed was my game folders....WHAT THE HELL DO I DO!!??

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The reason you can't see the 77 GB is because that is formatted as NTFS and not FAT or FAT32. Command.com cannot read NTFS without windows running in the background (some drivers have been created for dos to allow the access of NTFS drives, altough you would have to find those yourself)


On Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 11:21 am, Casey Ulrich wrote:
>well i have teh sam problem.... i was hacking my ntoskrnl.exe to change my bootscreen....all
>i did was change bitmaps 1,8,10 to my liking and copied the new one over the old
>ntoskrnl.exe and now for some reason windows wont even start, and when i tryto boot
>into safemode w/ or w/o command prompt it wont load ntoskrnl.exe ......and when i
>formated a floppy disk to boot me into dos it works but...when i switch over to c:\
>it only allows me to see the 3gig partition i have setup...witch contains only my
>computer games, it will not allow me to see the stuff on the other 77gigs of space
>witch contains my OS i tried typing "cd windows" while in c:\ and it cant find it
>then i typed "dir" and all it showed was my game folders....WHAT THE HELL DO I DO!!??

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use the recovery console that is on the XP cd....that provides access to the partitions and lets you perform maintenance on them much like dos did for 9x versions.


On Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 5:37 am, Wingot Dingus wrote:
>The reason you can't see the 77 GB is because that is formatted as NTFS and not FAT
>or FAT32. Command.com cannot read NTFS without windows running in the background
>(some drivers have been created for dos to allow the access of NTFS drives, altough
>you would have to find those yourself)
>
>
>

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Not true at all.

yes it is possible to dual boot XP and DOS, ignore everything everyone else posted 
and follow these simple instructions.

will only work if you have a partition with FAT32 to install DOS on.

Download DOS 7.10
http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71.htm


Once you have created the install disks or CD, put it in the drive reboot and install.

make sure you dont choose
overwrite mbr
overwrite boot sector data

make sure you choose
DUAL BOOT!

you can install DOS to any drive thats a FAT32 partition, and you can also put it 
on the same drive as XP as long as its FAT32.

not many people know that its possible to install DOS 7.10 after XP and still make 
it DUAL-BOOT, but it CAN BE DONE!

and edit autoexec.bat if you want it to boot straight into a DOS based app - thanks 
otter!

-nate







On Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 2:32 am, Tony Jay wrote:

>Unless you have:

>


>A. A boot floppy with DOS on it

>B. DOS installed on a partition and set up as a boot option

>


>you can't. XP is NT-based, and does not sit on top of DOS like Windows 9x or earlier.

>


>If you really need a DOS prompt for some reason, you can format a floppy in XP as 

>an MS-DOS startup disk. Just right-click on your floppy drive, select Format, and 

>check that option. 

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I read this as saying that I don't need a separate partition for DOS, so long as the one partition I have is FAT32. How would I know or find out whether something is a FAT32 partition? I am running Windows XP.


On Wednesday, April 6, 2005 at 5:43 pm, Nathan wrote:
>Not true at all.
>
>yes it is possible to dual boot XP and DOS, ignore everything everyone else posted
>and follow these simple instructions.
>
>will only work if you have a partition with FAT32 to install DOS on.
>
>Download DOS 7.10
>

http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71.htm

>
>Once you have created the install disks or CD, put it in the drive reboot and install.
>
>make sure you dont choose
>overwrite mbr
>overwrite boot sector data
>
>make sure you choose
>DUAL BOOT!
>
>you can install DOS to any drive thats a FAT32 partition, and you can also put it
>on the same drive as XP as long as its FAT32.
>
>not many people know that its possible to install DOS 7.10 after XP and still make
>it DUAL-BOOT, but it CAN BE DONE!
>
>and edit autoexec.bat if you want it to boot straight into a DOS based app - thanks
>otter!
>
>-nate
>
>
>

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Your question and that last person's answer are both factually off- topic, and thus they both belong in a "DOS" forum, not here in a Windows forum, and I am sure you can Google up just such a place with a little effort, since I don't think that the person you are trying to reach with your question stuck around in here after writing that.

.

Kiwi

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On Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 2:26 pm, noonsailing wrote:
>I read this as saying that I don't need a separate partition for DOS, so long as
>the one partition I have is FAT32. How would I know or find out whether something
>is a FAT32 partition? I am running Windows XP.
>
>
>

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Off topic even? wow! Dual booting dos and windows xp is not a windows topic? wow. 
wow

Is that how you got 1800 messages kiwi? By writing useless comments many months after 
no one is writing to a thread. Are all your comments as pointless as this thread 
I am writing now. wow. 

Hey this is great, I can write useless comments, hey maybe I can get 1800 comments 
and maybe people might think Im like a guru cause I have thousands of comments.

Dude. ANYWAY. This information is not widely known, iask any IT expert if its possible 
to dual boot DOS and xp off the same partition, and 99% will say no, and yes only 
if you installed windows over the top of DOS.

Anyway information like this is not widely avaliable, and instead of praising it, 
you say, ah its off topic, go post somewhere. Typical how real information, people 
dont wanna know.

Why not? maybe they are jealous, pious, religious or whatever. Anyway, Ill leave 
it to that. Anyone else reading this, Think what you think, do what you do. whatever

-Nathan (8 months later lol)







On Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 2:55 pm, Kiwi wrote:

>Your question and that last person's answer are both factually off- topic, and thus 

>they both belong in a "DOS" forum, not here in a Windows forum, and I am sure you 

>can Google up just such a place with a little effort, since I don't think that the 

>person you are trying to reach with your question stuck around in here after writing 

>that.  

>

>

>

>
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>


>Kiwi

>


>**

> 

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Go Nathan!


On Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 7:33 pm, Nathan wrote:
>Off topic even? wow! Dual booting dos and windows xp is not a windows topic? wow.
>wow
>Anyway information like this is not widely avaliable, and instead of praising it,
>you say, ah its off topic, go post somewhere. Typical how real information, people
>dont wanna know.
>
>Why not? maybe they are jealous, pious, religious or whatever. Anyway, Ill leave
>it to that. Anyone else reading this, Think what you think, do what you do. whatever
>
>-Nathan (8 months later lol)
>
>
>

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With reference to the copy DOS onto a floppy and install DOS before XP. Couldn't you burn DOS onto a DVD and make sure CMOS checks that drive before the HD?


On Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 2:05 am, Ashe Corven wrote:
>I have a question about Boot
>Directly into DOS:

>
>
>How can this be done in Win XP???
>Any help appreciated, Thanks.

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