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Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, April 13, 2002 at 11:29 am
Posted by swifty1961 (2 messages posted)

Even though I have two installed and both working properly in device manager. This problem started when I tried to install a ATI 7500 All in ONE Radeon...BAD IDEA!!. Now no matter what I try I can't get Windows XP to recognize that I have an audio device. All of the audio hardware shows up just fine, even the audio codecs say they are working proberly. I have done the standard, remove and reinstall latest drivers, moved the card (one of them is integrated in the motherboard) and still XP still reports "no audio device" I am thinking something may have gotten screwed up in the registry but I can't pin it down. I have tried to use System Restore, but of course that didn't work at all. Said it couldn't restore no matter how far back I went. ANY ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have search the internet for people with similar problems and have found one or two. No responses to either of these inquiries. I do NOT want to have to start from scratch!! THANKS for any help that can be given!

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, April 13, 2002 at 4:07 pm
Posted by smokey (215 messages posted)

if your using a sound card you should disable your onboard sound......ATI Radeon..????...YUK!


On Saturday, April 13, 2002 at 11:29 am, swifty1961 wrote:
>Even though I have two installed and both working properly in device manager. This
>problem started when I tried to install a ATI 7500 All in ONE Radeon...BAD IDEA!!.
>
>Now no matter what I try I can't get Windows XP to recognize that I have an audio
>device. All of the audio hardware shows up just fine, even the audio codecs say they
>are working proberly.
>
>I have done the standard, remove and reinstall latest drivers, moved the card (one
>of them is integrated in the motherboard) and still XP still reports "no audio device"
>I am thinking something may have gotten screwed up in the registry but I can't pin
>it down. I have tried to use System Restore, but of course that didn't work at all.
>Said it couldn't restore no matter how far back I went.
>
>ANY ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have search the internet for people with
>similar problems and have found one or two. No responses to either of these inquiries.
>
>I do NOT want to have to start from scratch!!
>
>THANKS for any help that can be given!

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Monday, April 15, 2002 at 2:09 am
Posted by Greg Zeng (33 messages posted)

>if your using a sound card you should disable your onboard sound......ATI Radeon..????...YUK! Disable it as much as you can: motherboard, bios, and after XP boots. XP seems to discover & use devices even if you disable them in the BIOS, so, disable it again & again in XP's Device Manager.

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 9:21 am
Posted by Kris (1 messages posted)

I've just installed WinXP on my system and i have exactly the same problem. It seems to have happened right at the time I installed some updated Radeon drivers. anyone work out a solution (i have a pci soundcard and onbard soudcard, the onboard seems to be totally invisible to windows (after lots of playing in the bios) /kris


On Saturday, April 13, 2002 at 11:29 am, swifty1961 wrote:
>Even though I have two installed and both working properly in device manager. This
>problem started when I tried to install a ATI 7500 All in ONE Radeon...BAD IDEA!!.
>
>Now no matter what I try I can't get Windows XP to recognize that I have an audio
>device. All of the audio hardware shows up just fine, even the audio codecs say they
>are working proberly.
>
>I have done the standard, remove and reinstall latest drivers, moved the card (one
>of them is integrated in the motherboard) and still XP still reports "no audio device"
>I am thinking something may have gotten screwed up in the registry but I can't pin
>it down. I have tried to use System Restore, but of course that didn't work at all.
>Said it couldn't restore no matter how far back I went.
>
>ANY ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have search the internet for people with
>similar problems and have found one or two. No responses to either of these inquiries.
>
>I do NOT want to have to start from scratch!!
>
>THANKS for any help that can be given!

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Thursday, January 9, 2003 at 6:25 pm
Posted by John Mangione (2 messages posted)

Well, it appears as though there are more of us every day that are having this problem: in device manager it says that the sound device is installed properly, but when we go into the sound management interface (in control panel -> sounds) it reports "no audio device". I know it is not a hardware problem, and I have no on-board sound that must be disabled in the bios. I have even replaced the sound card with another, brand new one from a different manufacturer, but with the same results. I've reinstalled the OS, put in SP1 (this is a Windows XP machine, by the way), still with no improvement. So, this is what I propose: if you are having the same problem as we have been describing here, then let's exchange e-mail addresses and stay in touch until the case is solved by any of us, who will pass the fix on to the rest. I'll begin: John ----> jmangione@knowledgewave.com Feel free to drop me a line if you want to help solve this with the rest of us.


On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 9:21 am, Kris wrote:
>I've just installed WinXP on my system and i have exactly the same problem. It seems
>to have happened right at the time I installed some updated Radeon drivers.
>
>anyone work out a solution (i have a pci soundcard and onbard soudcard, the onboard
>seems to be totally invisible to windows (after lots of playing in the bios)
>
>/kris
>
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Thursday, January 9, 2003 at 7:17 pm
Posted by John Mangione (2 messages posted)

I, too, have been having the same problem: No sound. When I attempt to configure any sound settings in Control Panel, I see many greyed out boxes that state "no audio devices installed", even though the drivers have been installed, and investigations into device manager claim that "device is working properly". I know the sound card was working fine at one point, and then it stopped. I know it's not the sound card, but, to be certain, I took out the creative labs sound card and installed a Philips sound card, AND IT DID THE SAME THING! I have unistalled and reinstalled the software countless times. It's as though some other process has claimed use of the device. Could this be a new form of virus? Microsoft's troubleshooters seem to bring me back to dead ends, with the most recent trial complaining about signed drivers. I went to the Philips web site and they told me to ignore those messages. I came to this site and have taken the following advice before posting this latest addendum to my message. I downloaded and ran Norton's AntiVirus program, which found 8 files corrupted with the Benjamin virus, that was snuck inside a downloaded copy of Grand Theft Auto. Norton's AV deleted those files, but the problem persisted. Then I reinstalled the XP os from cd. The good news is that it did not remove the users, or their settings, during the process. The bad news is that the problem still persists. I am beginning to believe that this could be a new form of virus that insinuates itself in the registry in such a way as to disable the sound card. The most unique set of symptoms that sets this virus apart from others is that Device Manager reports that "the device is working properly", and, yet, when I go into Control Panel and look at the "Sounds and Audio Devices Properties" dialogue box, on the main screen it states that "No audio Device" is installed, and all other fields on that screen, and others, is greyed out. I have again reinstalled XP, installed SP1, downloaded latest patches, with no results. Noto bene: This is not a hardware problem! As others have done, I have replaced the sound card entirely with a brand new sound card, with new drivers, but with no success. The problems seem to start after a virus has attacked the system and, even after the successful removal of the virus, the audio devices no longer work. As you read these posts, also note the similarities of many of these problems that others are reporting. Coincidence? I think not. I am still stymied, though, and would welcome any help in this regard. Please feel free to e-mail me at jmangione@knowledgewave.com, as well as post a reply, if you think you know what's wrong.


On Saturday, April 13, 2002 at 11:29 am, swifty1961 wrote:
>Even though I have two installed and both working properly in device manager. This
>problem started when I tried to install a ATI 7500 All in ONE Radeon...BAD IDEA!!.
>
>Now no matter what I try I can't get Windows XP to recognize that I have an audio
>device. All of the audio hardware shows up just fine, even the audio codecs say they
>are working proberly.
>
>I have done the standard, remove and reinstall latest drivers, moved the card (one
>of them is integrated in the motherboard) and still XP still reports "no audio device"
>I am thinking something may have gotten screwed up in the registry but I can't pin
>it down. I have tried to use System Restore, but of course that didn't work at all.
>Said it couldn't restore no matter how far back I went.
>
>ANY ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have search the internet for people with
>similar problems and have found one or two. No responses to either of these inquiries.
>
>I do NOT want to have to start from scratch!!
>
>THANKS for any help that can be given!

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Thursday, January 9, 2003 at 7:51 pm
Posted by swifty1961 (2 messages posted)

John, Hi there, sorry you're having problems! What I finally did was just reinstall XP and didn't load my ATI radeon drivers and the sound came back just fine. I do remember (I beleive) that I did a "windows update " which got the sound out of whack again. So this time I reinstalled XP and now I only install updates that are NECESSARY!. Sounds like you've tried to reinstall XP, sorry you didn't have any luck. This is obviously a problem with XP, it's amazing how little you can find on it. You would think Microsoft would know what's going on! Anyway, if you ever do get it figured out please let me know (in case it screws up for me again!) Take care,


On Thursday, January 9, 2003 at 7:17 pm, John Mangione wrote:
>I, too, have been having the same problem: No sound. When I attempt to configure
>any sound settings in Control Panel, I see many greyed out boxes that state "no audio
>devices installed", even though the drivers have been installed, and investigations
>into device manager claim that "device is working properly".
>I know the sound card was working fine at one point, and then it stopped. I know
>it's not the sound card, but, to be certain, I took out the creative labs sound card
>and installed a Philips sound card, AND IT DID THE SAME THING! I have unistalled
>and reinstalled the software countless times. It's as though some other process has
>claimed use of the device. Could this be a new form of virus?
>Microsoft's troubleshooters seem to bring me back to dead ends, with the most recent
>trial complaining about signed drivers. I went to the Philips web site and they told
>me to ignore those messages.
>
>I came to this site and have taken the following advice before posting this latest
>addendum to my message.
>
>I downloaded and ran Norton's AntiVirus program, which found 8 files corrupted with
>the Benjamin virus, that was snuck inside a downloaded copy of Grand Theft Auto.
>Norton's AV deleted those files, but the problem persisted. Then I reinstalled the
>XP os from cd. The good news is that it did not remove the users, or their settings,
>during the process. The bad news is that the problem still persists.
>
>I am beginning to believe that this could be a new form of virus that insinuates
>itself in the registry in such a way as to disable the sound card. The most unique
>set of symptoms that sets this virus apart from others is that Device Manager reports
>that "the device is working properly", and, yet, when I go into Control Panel and
>look at the "Sounds and Audio Devices Properties" dialogue box, on the main screen
>it states that "No audio Device" is installed, and all other fields on that screen,
>and others, is greyed out.
>
>I have again reinstalled XP, installed SP1, downloaded latest patches, with no results.
>
>Noto bene: This is not a hardware problem! As others have done, I have replaced the
>sound card entirely with a brand new sound card, with new drivers, but with no success.
>The problems seem to start after a virus has attacked the system and, even after
>the successful removal of the virus, the audio devices no longer work. As you read
>these posts, also note the similarities of many of these problems that others are
>reporting. Coincidence? I think not. I am still stymied, though, and would welcome
>any help in this regard.
>
>Please feel free to e-mail me at jmangione@knowledgewave.com, as well as post a reply,
>if you think you know what's wrong.
>
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 8:56 am
Posted by Mo Green (1 messages posted)

It's so nice to find I'm not the only one experiencing this glitch. I have XP and a Yamaha XG Digital Sound Card w/DB. When I first installed the drivers that came with it I received the warning of the device driver not having the "MS Logo Digital Signature". I checked the mfr's site and it said the driver was cool on XP. I too have tried every possible fix and even tried going back to the onboard chip to no avail.


On Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 9:21 am, Kris wrote:
>I've just installed WinXP on my system and i have exactly the same problem. It seems
>to have happened right at the time I installed some updated Radeon drivers.
>
>anyone work out a solution (i have a pci soundcard and onbard soudcard, the onboard
>seems to be totally invisible to windows (after lots of playing in the bios)
>
>/kris
>
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Friday, January 24, 2003 at 4:24 am
Posted by J.D (1 messages posted)

Hi Guys, I have been following the threads about "No Audio Device" after installing XP. This same issue happened to me. Device manager tells me all is well but no sound plays and all sound apps tell me no active mixer is detected. After poking around in the registry and re-installing drivers what seemed to be 1000 times I found that there is a Service that runs on XP called "Windows Audio", funnily enough this was turned off and set to start Manually. After setup this to start Automatically and with the obligatory Windows reboot my sound card came alive..Never again will I listen to the PC speaker with wondorous amazment but with furious anger... I hope this helps you guys.


On Thursday, January 9, 2003 at 7:51 pm, Mike wrote:
>
>John,
>
>Hi there, sorry you're having problems! What I finally did was just reinstall XP
>and didn't load my ATI radeon drivers and the sound came back just fine.
>
>I do remember (I beleive) that I did a "windows update
>" which got the sound out of whack again. So this time I reinstalled XP and now I
>only install updates that are NECESSARY!.
>
>Sounds like you've tried to reinstall XP, sorry you didn't have any luck. This is
>obviously a problem with XP, it's amazing how little you can find on it. You would
>think Microsoft would know what's going on!
>
>Anyway, if you ever do get it figured out please let me know (in case it screws up
>for me again!)
>
>Take care,
>
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 8:39 am
Posted by Tony (1 messages posted)

Ok... I have had the same issue described above, except my Windows Sound service was already started... that didn't help me. I have an Asus P4PE Mobo with SoundMAX digital audo... brand new clean install of Windows XP. No audio device detected. Went to Microsoft Updates and downloaded update for Audio codec (or something like that... sorry to be sketchy about details)... After this, my audio device was detected. Success!! or so I thought... still no sound even though my device was detected. The next day (today) I went to ASUS and downloaded the updated drivers for Soundmax (adiwdm_3520.zip) and installed these drivers. Success!! This time for real. Sound, sweet sound. I now have a very nice SoundMax Control Panel (in Windows Control Panel section). The only minor problem is that my left and right channel are swapped, but I'm still trying to work on that one. If you have the same audio chipset as me, this might solve your problem. You can email me direct if you want me to help you find the Audio drivers (I had a hell of time getting them from the Asus website). Good luck... Tony (temp@splaat.net )

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 10:21 am
Posted by rastamonsta (1 messages posted)

Okay, Ive had the same problem and I found another board on how to fix it. Don't know if this is the right way, but it fixes it. It seems to be a problem with the Plug and Play drivers in XP. Look here.http://www.computerrepairservice.com/messages/6505.html
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Tim (1 messages posted)

I struggled with this for 2 hours myself. And after all that... I finally figured it out. THE STUPID SOUND THEME SETTING WAS OFF!! Try going to Start/Control Panel/Sounds and make sure that your sound settings are set to Windows Default (or one of your choice). After reinstalling XP mine was set to nothing.


On Thursday, January 9, 2003 at 7:51 pm, Mike wrote:
>
>John,
>
>Hi there, sorry you're having problems! What I finally did was just reinstall XP
>and didn't load my ATI radeon drivers and the sound came back just fine.
>
>I do remember (I beleive) that I did a "windows update
>" which got the sound out of whack again. So this time I reinstalled XP and now I
>only install updates that are NECESSARY!.
>
>Sounds like you've tried to reinstall XP, sorry you didn't have any luck. This is
>obviously a problem with XP, it's amazing how little you can find on it. You would
>think Microsoft would know what's going on!
>
>Anyway, if you ever do get it figured out please let me know (in case it screws up
>for me again!)
>
>Take care,
>
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Tuesday, June 3, 2003 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Platinum-Zer0 (1 messages posted)

Thx i just have one problem where is "Windows Audio" located this problem has been plauging me for 24 hours and it's driving me nuts......


On Friday, January 24, 2003 at 4:24 am, J.D wrote:
>Hi Guys, I have been following the threads about "No Audio Device" after installing
>XP. This same issue happened to me. Device manager tells me all is well but no sound
>plays and all sound apps tell me no active mixer is detected. After poking around
>in the registry and re-installing drivers what seemed to be 1000 times I found that
>there is a Service that runs on XP called "Windows Audio", funnily enough this was
>turned off and set to start Manually.
>
>After setup this to start Automatically and with the obligatory Windows reboot my
>sound card came alive..Never again will I listen to the PC speaker with wondorous
>amazment but with furious anger...
>
>I hope this helps you guys.
>
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Wednesday, June 4, 2003 at 4:50 am
Posted by daffguru (1 messages posted)

Tony, you got me on a good start, I hope this works. Here's the link for those who have an Asus MB w/onboard sound: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=P4PE All you need to do is replace your MB model in the spot where my P4PE is located. If all else fails delete everything back to the "/download/" and select your Asus MB from there. My fingers are crossed...w/my 56K it's gonna' be an hour + to find out if this is a "fix" for me and my Audigy Gamer/XP woes. Good luck all.


On Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 8:39 am, Tony wrote:
>
>Ok... I have had the same issue described above, except my Windows Sound service
>was already started... that didn't help me. I have an Asus P4PE Mobo with SoundMAX
>digital audo... brand new clean install of Windows XP. No audio device detected.
>Went to Microsoft Updates and downloaded update for Audio codec (or something like
>that... sorry to be sketchy about details)... After this, my audio device was detected.
>Success!! or so I thought... still no sound even though my device was detected. The
>next day (today) I went to ASUS and downloaded the updated drivers for Soundmax (adiwdm_3520.zip)
>and installed these drivers. Success!! This time for real. Sound, sweet sound. I
>now have a very nice SoundMax Control Panel (in Windows Control Panel section). The
>only minor problem is that my left and right channel are swapped, but I'm still trying
>to work on that one. If you have the same audio chipset as me, this might solve your
>problem. You can email me direct if you want me to help you find the Audio drivers
>(I had a hell of time getting them from the Asus website). Good luck... Tony (temp@splaat.net
>)
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Sunday, June 8, 2003 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Claudio (1 messages posted)




On Friday, January 24, 2003 at 4:24 am, J.D wrote:
>there is a Service that runs on XP called "Windows Audio", funnily enough this was
>turned off and set to start Manually. Thanks JD, you really made my day! I've been having this problem for quite some time now. I'd delete all sound related entries from Device Manager, then do a Check for New Hardware (during which Windows reinstalled the drivers)...only to have sound until the next reboot. Then back to square one. Now everything works again. I really hate Windows' misleading error messages which put you completely off track (bad DirectSound drivers in my case). Thanks, Claudio

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 5:44 pm
Posted by noilly (1 messages posted)

I'm having the no sound device problem after installing xp. After reading the threads here, I still have no idea how to fix it. Anyone know how to get sound after xp install?

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I think I've got it
Thursday, July 3, 2003 at 4:18 am
Posted by Edward Tupou (1 messages posted)

Just stumbled across this thread and remembered losing nights of sleep over this (not to mention missing uni for about a week). Being a novice I'll try and explain everything as simply as I can (because I am majoring in economics not computing and also because I have a learning disability called "...and where the hells that!" : symptoms of "no audio device": - greyed out volume controls - missing "volume control" on task bar remedy: reinstall sound drivers (I suspect that a virus is going around messing with the registry not to mention our heads) How to 101 (windows xp) 1) start -> control panel -> system 2) system -> Hardware -> "Device Manager" 3) Device Manager -> Sound, Video and Game Controllers. Expand (i.e. click on plus sign) Hear comes the tricky surgery. From the list of codecs and devices look for your audio controller e.g. my computer's audio control device was an "Intel(r)82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Control". 4) Double click on it to bring up properties. Ignore all the "this device is working properly" like you would an ex girlfriend. than move to Driver (top panel). 5) Driver Panel -> Uninstall (Advanced) 6) go back to to start ->control panel -> "add hardware" 7) the automatic search should detect and reinstall the "audio controller driver". 8) Now play that Elvis song, shake your hips in an anti-clockwise manner and book a vacation to come visit me in Fiji (wire transfers and marriage proposals accepted) Legal Disclaimer: in the event that the above wrecks havoc on your computer please direct all death threats and anthrax laced letters to the following address. Bill Gates, Microsoft, USA. :p

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re: I think I've got it
Friday, July 25, 2003 at 9:29 am
Posted by Dave (1 messages posted)

Hey, Tried to reinstall the multimedia audio controller but couldnt bcoz the darned box couldnt find the right drivers. I guess I'll have to look for the Driver cd with the on-board sound card.


On Thursday, July 3, 2003 at 4:18 am, Edward Tupou wrote:
>Just stumbled across this thread and remembered losing nights of sleep over this
>(not to mention missing uni for about a week). Being a novice I'll try and explain
>everything as simply as I can (because I am majoring in economics not computing and
>also because I have a learning disability called "...and where the hells that!" :
>
>symptoms of "no audio device":
>- greyed out volume controls
>- missing "volume control" on task bar
>
>remedy: reinstall sound drivers (I suspect that a virus is going around messing with
>the registry not to mention our heads)
>
>How to 101 (windows xp)
>
>1) start -> control panel -> system
>
>2) system -> Hardware -> "Device Manager"
>
>3) Device Manager -> Sound, Video and Game Controllers. Expand (i.e. click on plus
>sign)
>
>Hear comes the tricky surgery. From the list of codecs and devices look for your
>audio controller e.g. my computer's audio control device was an "Intel(r)82801CA/CAM
>AC'97 Audio Control".
>
>4) Double click on it to bring up properties. Ignore all the "this device is working
>properly" like you would an ex girlfriend. than move to Driver (top panel).
>
>5) Driver Panel -> Uninstall (Advanced)
>
>6) go back to to start ->control panel -> "add hardware"
>
>7) the automatic search should detect and reinstall the "audio controller driver".
>
>8) Now play that Elvis song, shake your hips in an anti-clockwise manner and book
>a vacation to come visit me in Fiji (wire transfers and marriage proposals accepted)
>
>Legal Disclaimer: in the event that the above wrecks havoc on your computer please
>direct all death threats and anthrax laced letters to the following address. Bill
>Gates, Microsoft, USA. :p

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Monday, July 28, 2003 at 10:56 am
Posted by Jason (1 messages posted)

This....was amazing! Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! *kisses feet* I'm not slack on computer troubleshooting, but this one had me stumped. I never would have thought to look for ISAPNP to resolve my sound card issue. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. You saved me after I only pulled out *half* my hair ;)


On Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 10:21 am, rastamonsta wrote:
>Okay, Ive had the same problem and I found another board on how to fix it. Don't
>know if this is the right way, but it fixes it. It seems to be a problem with the
>Plug and Play drivers in XP. Look here.http://www.computerrepairservice.com/messages/6505.html
>

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re: I think I've got it
Monday, August 11, 2003 at 5:26 am
Posted by Harker (1 messages posted)

Afraid reinstalling drivers did not work for me either! This is what did it for me: Inserted windows XP cd Original and installed using the Update option (This mantains all documents, settings and installed applications). After the installation the sound was back on.


On Friday, July 25, 2003 at 9:29 am, Dave wrote:
>Hey,
>Tried to reinstall the multimedia audio controller but couldnt bcoz the darned box
>couldnt find the right drivers. I guess I'll have to look for the Driver cd with
>the on-board sound card.
>
>

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Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Snipe (1 messages posted)

I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem, I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out areas again! Try it out fellas! Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system. To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV): 1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.) 2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver" 3. Select "Install from a list or specific location" 4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install." 5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware" 6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer. 7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator". Select this item, and select "Next>". 8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard. 9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and active. If not, restart. Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation, and perhaps a marriage as well.


On Monday, August 11, 2003 at 5:26 am, Harker wrote:
>
>Afraid reinstalling drivers did not work for me either! This is what did it for me:
>
>Inserted windows XP cd Original and installed using the Update option (This mantains
>all documents, settings and installed applications). After the installation the sound
>was back on.
>
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 1:17 am
Posted by Ducky (1 messages posted)

I'm still having issues... not sure if any techies browse this... but eh... I did everything, devices come up... but still no go

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 6:37 am
Posted by tancy (2 messages posted)

THANKS ALOT!!! IT WORKS REALLY WELLL!


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem,
>I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out
>areas again! Try it out fellas!
>
>
>Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough
>to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest
>you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system.
>To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV):
>1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP
>Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully
>repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.)
>2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver"
>3. Select "Install from a list or specific location"
>4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install."
>5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware"
>6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer.
>7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".
>Select this item, and select "Next>".
>8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard.
>9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically
>change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and
>active. If not, restart.
>
>Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation,
>and perhaps a marriage as well.
>
>
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 10:03 am
Posted by Steven Douglas (1 messages posted)

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! Unselected "View Compatible Devices", selected "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator", IGNORED the warning, and EVERYTHING WORKED PERFECTLY afterward. THANK YOU. Polygamy rules, consider this another marriage proposal.

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re: I think I've got it
Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 11:10 am
Posted by roni gotman (1 messages posted)

Bless you - it works :-)


On Thursday, July 3, 2003 at 4:18 am, Edward Tupou wrote:
>Just stumbled across this thread and remembered losing nights of sleep over this
>(not to mention missing uni for about a week). Being a novice I'll try and explain
>everything as simply as I can (because I am majoring in economics not computing and
>also because I have a learning disability called "...and where the hells that!" :
>
>symptoms of "no audio device":
>- greyed out volume controls
>- missing "volume control" on task bar
>
>remedy: reinstall sound drivers (I suspect that a virus is going around messing with
>the registry not to mention our heads)
>
>How to 101 (windows xp)
>
>1) start -> control panel -> system
>
>2) system -> Hardware -> "Device Manager"
>
>3) Device Manager -> Sound, Video and Game Controllers. Expand (i.e. click on plus
>sign)
>
>Hear comes the tricky surgery. From the list of codecs and devices look for your
>audio controller e.g. my computer's audio control device was an "Intel(r)82801CA/CAM
>AC'97 Audio Control".
>
>4) Double click on it to bring up properties. Ignore all the "this device is working
>properly" like you would an ex girlfriend. than move to Driver (top panel).
>
>5) Driver Panel -> Uninstall (Advanced)
>
>6) go back to to start ->control panel -> "add hardware"
>
>7) the automatic search should detect and reinstall the "audio controller driver".
>
>8) Now play that Elvis song, shake your hips in an anti-clockwise manner and book
>a vacation to come visit me in Fiji (wire transfers and marriage proposals accepted)
>
>Legal Disclaimer: in the event that the above wrecks havoc on your computer please
>direct all death threats and anthrax laced letters to the following address. Bill
>Gates, Microsoft, USA. :p

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re: I think I've got it; simpler solution?
Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 8:41 pm
Posted by BB (1 messages posted)

What worked for me is a system restore to earlier in the day. start > programs > accessories > system tools > system restore.


On Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 11:10 am, roni gotman wrote:
>
>Bless you - it works :-)
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Monday, September 15, 2003 at 1:30 am
Posted by Cal Woodruff (1 messages posted)

You would have done well to copy that article. Its gone.


On Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 10:21 am, rastamonsta wrote:
>Okay, Ive had the same problem and I found another board on how to fix it. Don't
>know if this is the right way, but it fixes it. It seems to be a problem with the
>Plug and Play drivers in XP. Look here.http://www.computerrepairservice.com/messages/6505.html
>

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re: I think I've got it; simpler solution?
Thursday, October 2, 2003 at 2:34 am
Posted by tama (1 messages posted)

thanks to edward tupou nice work finally got my audio goin good lookin....


On Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 8:41 pm, BB wrote:
>What worked for me is a system restore to earlier in the day. start > programs >
>accessories > system tools > system restore.
>
>

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re: Snipe has the answer!! =)
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 at 8:16 pm
Posted by adder (1 messages posted)

ty heapppz snipe u legend u just saved me a new sound card mate :D


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, October 11, 2003 at 8:00 am
Posted by fred (1 messages posted)

Hello, I pretty much tried all solutions proposed above, with no success (short of reinstalling XP since my R31 IBM thinkpad didn't come with an install CD). Something I noticed that may explain why it doesn't work is that, when I go to Device Manager -> Sound .. -> SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio->driver-> drivers details... One of the file is c:\windows\system32\drivers\dmk.sys (from Microsoft). However, the file is not on my system. Tried to search it via google and Microsoft with no success. Help would be very much appreciated since this is really starting to get on my nerves. thanks in advance. Fred.

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Wilford (1 messages posted)

Hi, Fred, You probably need to install the driver for your audio device, whether it is an onboard device or a plug-in device. There is no need to follow the instruction in the previous discussion by going through … --> [Device Manager]--> …, [Sound], … etc. Once the drive is installed by a setup program, every relevant file will be automatically upgraded. Then the 'no audio device" message should disappear. Ignore about Microsoft driver or installation guide, the instruction is just not clear enough. That was why there had been problems. Someone said this was due to a virus, but it wasn't. You can reformat the whole disc, and the problem will still be there. Good luck. Wilford

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 12:43 pm
Posted by eliphaz (1 messages posted)

I have searched for many days trying to solve this problem. This fixed it in 5 clicks. Snipe is a true Zen Master.


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem,
>I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out
>areas again! Try it out fellas!
>
>
>Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough
>to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest
>you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system.
>To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV):
>1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP
>Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully
>repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.)
>2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver"
>3. Select "Install from a list or specific location"
>4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install."
>5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware"
>6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer.
>7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".
>Select this item, and select "Next>".
>8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard.
>9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically
>change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and
>active. If not, restart.
>
>Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation,
>and perhaps a marriage as well.
>
>
>
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 3:19 pm
Posted by NYTooCooL (10 messages posted)

MAN I Have tried everythying...i got XP and now its saying "No Audio Device" in my Sound and Audio Devices Properties. i have a SiS 7018 sound card but in my Device Manager i have these in my Sound, video game controllers : Audio Codecs, Legacy Audio Drivers, Legacy Audio Drivers, Legacy Video Capture Devices, Media Control Devices, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device, Standard Game Port, Unimodem Full-Duplex Audio Device, Video Codecs... I got Allllllll that stuff and what im supposed to be using is a SiS 7018 Audio Driver...I dont know what half that stuff is and im not even getting the option to Uninstall most of those things the only thing i seem to be able to remove is the Unimodem Full-Duplex Audio Device.


On Saturday, October 11, 2003 at 8:00 am, fred wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I pretty much tried all solutions proposed above, with
>no success (short of reinstalling XP since my R31 IBM
>thinkpad didn't come with an install CD).
>Something I noticed that may explain why it doesn't work is that, when I go to
>Device Manager -> Sound .. -> SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio->driver-> drivers
>details...
>One of the file is c:\windows\system32\drivers\dmk.sys (from Microsoft).
>However, the file is not on my system.
>Tried to search it via google and Microsoft with no success.
>
>Help would be very much appreciated since this is really
>starting to get on my nerves.
>
>thanks in advance.
>
>Fred.
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Thursday, September 2, 2004 at 1:29 pm
Posted by jg (1 messages posted)

just found this after searching and searching. Works first time. brilliant - another marriage saved! Thanks Snipe!


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem,
>I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out
>areas again! Try it out fellas!
>
>
>Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough
>to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest
>you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system.
>To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV):
>1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP
>Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully
>repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.)
>2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver"
>3. Select "Install from a list or specific location"
>4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install."
>5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware"
>6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer.
>7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".
>Select this item, and select "Next>".
>8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard.
>9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically
>change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and
>active. If not, restart.
>
>Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation,
>and perhaps a marriage as well.
>
>
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 11:58 am
Posted by Tigger (1 messages posted)

Thanks so much! I followed those steps exactly and the sound came back to life immediately. FYI (and to provide more keywords for people who are still searching for the solution) The problem first occurred for me when I turned my onboard sound card off in the BIOS to do some trouble shooting (turned out to be a RAM issue). When I switched it back on again XP started doing this wierd drivers ok sound options greyed-out thing!


On Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 6:37 am, tancy wrote:
>THANKS ALOT!!! IT WORKS REALLY WELLL!
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Friday, April 15, 2005 at 8:19 am
Posted by Jason (1 messages posted)

I have tried all of the fixed mentioned, and still not able to do anything. This only started when I installed XP, after having used everything fine with Win 98 SE, I formatted and installed XP, and SP1, and tried all, and doesnt work still. I cant do anything about it!! Please, if you can help, email me at jcbiffis@yahoo.com


On Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 11:58 am, Tigger wrote:
>Thanks so much! I followed those steps exactly and the sound came back to life immediately.
>
>FYI (and to provide more keywords for people who are still searching for the solution)
>The problem first occurred for me when I turned my onboard sound card off in the
>BIOS to do some trouble shooting (turned out to be a RAM issue). When I switched
>it back on again XP started doing this wierd drivers ok sound options greyed-out
>thing!
>
>
>

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none of ur fixes work
Friday, November 11, 2005 at 5:55 am
Posted by Wolf (1 messages posted)

i tried evrything doesnt work. didnt find "Windows Audio", please help me locate it. tnx for the effort guys. hope none to many of u doesnt get the problem fixed. greetz Wolf

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re: none of ur fixes work
Monday, December 19, 2005 at 9:16 am
Posted by Penne (3 messages posted)

We got our laptop repaired with a System Restore (no missing PnP,) one custom-built 
w/onboard sound which now has a PnP and audio thanks to these words of wisdom, but 
is still locking up every fifteen minutes after an XP repair following uninstallation 
of SP2 (which annihilated the PnP,) and another CBWOS to go (driver updates indicate 
the sound card isn't enabled in the BIOS, althought it has been for over two years.) 
 

I recently read a tip that folks won't follow the branches of an old thread too far 
to find a current response, so perhaps it's time to start a follow-up discussion 
as this one seems to be rather quiet these days.  I'll use the same title, but with 
the words, Part II, attached and post links to and from each thread to keep them 
cross-referenced.  Until later, Amigos...  





On Friday, November 11, 2005 at 5:55 am, Wolf wrote:
>i tried evrything doesnt work.
>didnt find "Windows Audio", please help me locate it.
>tnx for the effort guys. hope none to many of u doesnt get the problem fixed.
>greetz Wolf

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re: none of ur fixes work
Monday, December 19, 2005 at 10:13 am
Posted by Penne (3 messages posted)

Okay, after reading the new post criteria, I decided to give the new thread a name 
unique to my continuing problem, rather than create "Part II" of the discussion:

Windows 
doesn't recognize sound card enabled in BIOS (was Windows reports ''no audio device'')

Hey, if anyone's reading this today and has the answer -- yours would be the best 
birthday present I've gotten in years!  HAND-pda

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re: none of ur fixes work
Friday, March 31, 2006 at 4:23 pm
Posted by irvingw (1 messages posted)

For anyone who comes to this late in the day: 1. 'Windows Audio' is a SERVICE. You can find it by going to: Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Services 2. I have started having this problem recently - the only things that have changed on my machine (other than its' age) are Windows Updates. Hurrah. However, the Method of uninstalling / reinstalling the audio device seems to work for onboard audio too. Not such a good fix when you're trying to host a Ghost Recon server and all sound cuts out, but hey, that's what you get with open source software, right? Oh, hang on a bit... hmm... ---- Irving


On Friday, November 11, 2005 at 5:55 am, Wolf wrote:
>i tried evrything doesnt work.
>didnt find "Windows Audio", please help me locate it.
>tnx for the effort guys. hope none to many of u doesnt get the problem fixed.
>greetz Wolf

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Sunday, April 30, 2006 at 12:22 am
Posted by Raja (1 messages posted)

Unfortunately for me, this did not work. Rather it screwed up windows and windows stopped responding. I was not even able to open windows explorer, nothing works. Somehow I managed to go to Device manager and installed ISAPNP device again and my computer started working. Ofcourse still same problem "No audio device" exists and no sound anywhere. Any other ideas??


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem,
>I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out
>areas again! Try it out fellas!
>
>
>Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough
>to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest
>you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system.
>To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV):
>1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP
>Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully
>repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.)
>2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver"
>3. Select "Install from a list or specific location"
>4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install."
>5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware"
>6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer.
>7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".
>Select this item, and select "Next>".
>8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard.
>9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically
>change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and
>active. If not, restart.
>
>Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation,
>and perhaps a marriage as well.
>
>
>
>

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re: Thanks it worked 4Me
Friday, May 12, 2006 at 10:37 am
Posted by Mbusi (1 messages posted)

Thanks to Edward Tupou, i had the same problem, and i followed your method. It worked ! I can assure U there'll be no death threats !
>Bless you - it works :-)

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Patrick (1 messages posted)

This may have worked, the device does now show up as microsoft kernal system audio device, howevre, it wont let me load a driver for it, claiming that there is a conflict. Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware because there is a duplicate device already running in the system. (Code 42) any suggestions?


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem,
>I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out
>areas again! Try it out fellas!
>
>
>Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough
>to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest
>you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system.
>To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV):
>1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP
>Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully
>repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.)
>2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver"
>3. Select "Install from a list or specific location"
>4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install."
>5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware"
>6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer.
>7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".
>Select this item, and select "Next>".
>8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard.
>9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically
>change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and
>active. If not, restart.
>
>Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation,
>and perhaps a marriage as well.
>
>
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Tuesday, September 26, 2006 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Andrew (1 messages posted)

Everyone - make sure you don't have 2 plug and play software device enumerators. My problem was I had 2, and I see a few people in this thread saying they have 2. So uninstall one and it'll work!


On Thursday, May 18, 2006 at 4:30 pm, Patrick wrote:
>This may have worked, the device does now show up as microsoft kernal system audio
>device, howevre, it wont let me load a driver for it, claiming that there is a conflict.
>
>Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware because there is a duplicate
>device already running in the system. (Code 42)
>
>any suggestions?
>
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 12:13 pm
Posted by TSCTSC (1 messages posted)

With regard to the No audio device issue, I fixed mine by going to device manager and uninstalling the SoundMax Digital Audio. And then I went up to the detect hardware option and which reinstalled the driver. Fixed the problem for me.

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Finally, I fixed "No Audio Device"
Saturday, October 28, 2006 at 11:34 am
Posted by Mahmoud (1 messages posted)

For no apparent reason my SoundMax sound card stopped playing QuickTime and *.wmv files. I could hear system sounds, but no "real" audio on my WinXP SP2 machine. After more than 10 hours of countless uninstalling and reinstalling the SoundMax driver and rebooting after a "No Audio Device" in the Sounds and Audio Devices panel, I got the answer from this forum (and FORGET Windows Troubleshooting! It is useless.). The key is that audio is a Windows Service. Somehow, this service was STOPPED. (Same thing happened for "Server", and this prevented my PC from sharing folders). Anyway,... try this: (1) right-click My Computer (2) Click Manage (3) Double Click Services and Applications (4) Double Click Services (5) Find and Double Click Windows Audio (6) See if the service is running, if not START it. (7) Make Startup Type Automatic (8) You may need to click on Recovery and set Restart the Service for errors. Many, many thanks to the person who gave me the pointer to the Management tools.

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re: Finally, I fixed "No Audio Device"
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 10:30 am
Posted by glenda (2 messages posted)

Thank You Dave.... the solution you posted worked out perfect... i was afraid i was going to uninstall the wrong stuff but Thank God i didnt.. LOve you much!! MUACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On Saturday, October 28, 2006 at 11:34 am, Mahmoud wrote:
>For no apparent reason my SoundMax sound card stopped playing QuickTime and *.wmv
>files. I could hear system sounds, but no "real" audio on my WinXP SP2 machine.
>
>After more than 10 hours of countless uninstalling and reinstalling the SoundMax
>driver and rebooting after a "No Audio Device" in the Sounds and Audio Devices panel,
>I got the answer from this forum (and FORGET Windows Troubleshooting! It is useless.).
> The key is that audio is a Windows Service. Somehow, this service was STOPPED.
> (Same thing happened for "Server", and this prevented my PC from sharing folders).
> Anyway,... try this:
>(1) right-click My Computer
>(2) Click Manage
>(3) Double Click Services and Applications
>(4) Double Click Services
>(5) Find and Double Click Windows Audio
>(6) See if the service is running, if not START it.
>(7) Make Startup Type Automatic
>(8) You may need to click on Recovery and set Restart the Service for errors.
>
>Many, many thanks to the person who gave me the pointer to the Management tools.
>
>
>
>
>

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re: I think I've got it
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 10:37 am
Posted by glenda (2 messages posted)

Thank u so much, Ill marry you.. :)

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re: I think I've got it
Wednesday, January 24, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Posted by sam (1 messages posted)

YYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! IT WORKED FOR ME TOO.....THANK YOU!!!


On Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 10:37 am, glenda wrote:
>Thank u so much, Ill marry you.. :)

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to fix the code 42 duplicate device audio error
Monday, February 5, 2007 at 4:04 am
Posted by Bobby (1 messages posted)

Thanks! This trick worked for me (I also had the Code 42 duplicate device installed error). For anyone who wants to know how to tell if you have two plug and play's installed 1. Open the control panel 2. Go to System. 3. Click on the Hardware tab. 4. Click on the device Manager button. 5. Open the "System Devices" rollout by clicking on the plus sign. 6. Check the list for "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator". I had two listed, and when I clicked on the top one an "uninstall" icon appeared on the toolbar. The bottom one didn't have this option. So I selected the top one, hit "uninstall" and then rebooted. My ears then heard the sweetest sound of my entire day - the windows startup orchestra... Million thanks to you Andrew for your help!!!!


On Tuesday, September 26, 2006 at 3:17 pm, Andrew wrote:
>
>Everyone - make sure you don't have 2 plug and play software device enumerators.
>
>My problem was I had 2, and I see a few people in this thread saying they have 2.
>So uninstall one and it'll work!
>
>

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re: to fix the code 42 duplicate device audio error
Friday, April 13, 2007 at 9:54 am
Posted by Pete (1 messages posted)

YESSS!!!! Thanks a lot for this hugely helpful forum! I thought I was gonna have to reinstall XP *AGAIN*, but I followed snipe's post, deleted the second instance of plug n play enumerator (thx bobby), restarted and opened itunes...2 Unlimited never sounded so welcome!!!!! Thx to youse guys, I solved the problem in 5 hrs not 5 weeks!!!!!!!

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re: to fix the code 42 duplicate device audio error
Sunday, April 15, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Posted by dougal (1 messages posted)

I have been trying to fix this problem for weeks. I have tried everything on this forum and others without success. For one thing I have three PnP Software Device Enumerators, which may be the problem, but none of them will allow themselves to be deleted. Even "uninstall the driver" is grayed out. Can anyone help with this? Dougal


On Friday, April 13, 2007 at 9:54 am, Pete wrote:
>YESSS!!!!
>
>Thanks a lot for this hugely helpful forum! I thought I was gonna have to reinstall
>XP *AGAIN*, but I followed snipe's post, deleted the second instance of plug n play
>enumerator (thx bobby), restarted and opened itunes...2 Unlimited never sounded so
>welcome!!!!! Thx to youse guys, I solved the problem in 5 hrs not 5 weeks!!!!!!!
>

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 1:51 am
Posted by andre (1 messages posted)

I had the same problem on a Toshiba Satellite A105-S004 laptop running windows xp sp2. To fix the problem I went to the download page on Toshiba's web site, searched for downloads for sound, downloaded and installed their Realtek High Definition Audio driver. Worked like a charm.

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Monday, June 18, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Posted by darryl (1 messages posted)

it took me 2 weeks going through everything to finally stumble upon the hidden devices or "Show Hidden Devices" in the Device Manager and that's when something in the audio area came to light. I downloaded the drivers and rebooted and hallelujah I have sound. Try that if you stumped like I was.

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Sunday, July 8, 2007 at 7:48 am
Posted by Olivier (1 messages posted)

Well I had to drop a few lines to share my solution. I was also getting a "No Audio Device" posting after a clean XP install (and, coincidently, a Radeon video card install?). Either way, thanks to the valuable information posted on many of these entries, the trick that did it for me was to update the REALTEK Audio drivers (http://152.104.125.41/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC) and uninstall the additional 'Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator (located in Device Manager under the System Devices list). There were 2 listed - only 1 of the 2 offered a uninstall option when right-clicked so removed that one and finally, sound is back! Renewed thanks to all who posted such valuable information!

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Tuesday, July 17, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Posted by mike (1 messages posted)

can someone please tell me how to find the device manager or how to access it...also i was told that something called "windows audio" could be shut off in my registry but i have been unable to find it so can someone help me find that as well? i would greatly appreciate it...


On Sunday, July 8, 2007 at 7:48 am, Olivier wrote:
>Well I had to drop a few lines to share my solution. I was also getting a "No Audio
>Device" posting after a clean XP install (and, coincidently, a Radeon video card
>install?). Either way, thanks to the valuable information posted on many of these
>entries, the trick that did it for me was to update the REALTEK Audio drivers (http://152.104.125.41/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC)
>and uninstall the additional 'Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator (located in
>Device Manager under the System Devices list). There were 2 listed - only 1 of the
>2 offered a uninstall option when right-clicked so removed that one and finally,
>sound is back! Renewed thanks to all who posted such valuable information!

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, September 1, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Posted by Benita (2 messages posted)

I FIXED MINE LIKE THIS-----------but first have win xp on this computer, not upgrade...using one minute, working fine. ran an adware program....then went back to play song, wouldn't work. I did everything I could think of, all the obvious stuff, then went online. Lots of people having same problem, without a fix. Tried system restore and everything else listed on the web about this. didn't work......got mad and turned it off manually, without closing anything. 5 minutes later, started it up, and mysteriously, there was my audio device, just where it was supposed to be,,,,and working great...dernest thing I ever ran into.........but that's what I did. lol Peace, Benita

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 5:56 am
Posted by Ce Newton (1 messages posted)

This "no audio device" problem started in 2003. It is now Dec 2007, & it's still here! I followed the advice to start uninstalling Microsoft downloads. I only had to remove the very last one that I had downloaded LAST WEEK. Problem solved - I have sound.


On Saturday, September 1, 2007 at 11:43 pm, Benita wrote:
>
>I FIXED MINE LIKE THIS-----------but first
>have win xp on this computer, not upgrade...using one minute, working fine. ran
>an adware program....then went back to play song, wouldn't work. I did everything
>I could think of, all the obvious stuff, then went online. Lots of people having
>same problem, without a fix. Tried system restore and everything else listed on the
>web about this. didn't work......got mad and turned it off manually, without closing
>anything. 5 minutes later, started it up, and mysteriously, there was my audio device,
>just where it was supposed to be,,,,and working great...dernest thing I ever ran
>into.........but that's what I did. lol
>Peace,
>Benita

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Saturday, January 5, 2008 at 7:33 am
Posted by mike (1 messages posted)

I had the same problem and this solution worked ! Thank you !!!


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem,
>I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out
>areas again! Try it out fellas!
>
>
>Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough
>to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest
>you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system.
>To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV):
>1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP
>Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully
>repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.)
>2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver"
>3. Select "Install from a list or specific location"
>4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install."
>5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware"
>6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer.
>7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".
>Select this item, and select "Next>".
>8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard.
>9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically
>change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and
>active. If not, restart.
>
>Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation,
>and perhaps a marriage as well.
>
>
>
>

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Here is the REAL SOLUTION!
Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 10:18 am
Posted by Gustavo (1 messages posted)

I had this problem and this is the MAGIC solutions!!! THANKS A LOT!!! I read this when I'd decided to reinstall my OS!!! THANKS!!!


On Saturday, January 5, 2008 at 7:33 am, mike wrote:
>
>I had the same problem and this solution worked ! Thank you !!!
>
>

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i know the solution
Friday, February 22, 2008 at 9:22 am
Posted by niall meadows (1 messages posted)

hey guys, see your all having problems with your sound even though device manager says its fine. Solution: click start and go to run and type "services.msc" when you are there locate "Windows Audio", right click and set it to manual by the properties and then right click again and start the service. problem solved. Its bit quicker than reinstalling windows? no need to thank me

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Saturday, March 15, 2008 at 7:02 am
Posted by ed gennrich (6 messages posted)

i also tried and now i have "unknown device" constantly in device manager and and system keeps reinstalling after i delete/uninstall it through found new hardware wizard, now what? ED.


On Saturday, January 5, 2008 at 7:33 am, mike wrote:
>
>I had the same problem and this solution worked ! Thank you !!!
>
>

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re: i know the solution
Saturday, March 15, 2008 at 7:26 am
Posted by ed gennrich (6 messages posted)

i have same problem and just tried and still have problem, Ed.

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re: i know the solution
Sunday, March 30, 2008 at 10:27 am
Posted by Cece (1 messages posted)

These solutions are wonderful. However, none of them are working for me as of yet. My issue began when I had to reinstall Windows xp Service Pack 2, after the BESOD (blue error screen of death) occured on my Dell Inspiron 1150. I have many unresolved issues, but I'd like to rectify one at a time. So, is there more help for my Audio Device I haven't tried yet? Thank you in advance.


On Saturday, March 15, 2008 at 7:26 am, ed gennrich wrote:
>i have same problem and just tried and still have problem, Ed.

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What worked for me
Monday, April 21, 2008 at 6:01 am
Posted by tpalmer (3 messages posted)

I had this same issue after a repair install of XP and tried everything listed above 
to no avail.  What finally worked for me was getting rid of the KB888111 update. 
 First create a restore point or backup and then look for the update in your add/remove 
programs and uninstall it.  You may see additional letters/numbers after the KB888111, 
but uninstall it anyway. Secondly, edit the registry by doing the following:

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit in the Open box, and then click OK.
2. Locate and then click the following subkey in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows XP\SP2\KB888111
3. On the Edit menu, click Delete.
4. Click Yes, and then exit Registry Editor.

If the above entry isn't present, restart your computer.  This is what FINALLY brought 
the sound back to life on my computer.



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re: I think I've got it
Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Posted by michelle (1 messages posted)

Oh my gosh, you're a life saver. I did a destructive restore on my sons gateway notebook and have spent a total of 8 hours now trying to restore audio. I have googled & found dozens of threads like this one and tried everything from the drivers to the codecs to the on/off settings of audio services...I tried it all and this one finally worked!!!!! I uninstalled my conexant ac-link audio device and then initiated add hardware & it reinstalled it and like magic, my audio device is back. I will tell you this, my first 2 uninstalls resulted in my computer just restarting & saying it was recovering frokm serious error and the conexant was still there. I am so frustrated & determined, I tried again...3rd time a charm. Whew, hope more try this and get this kind of satisfaction. Thank you so much for taking the time to write here!!


On Friday, July 25, 2003 at 9:29 am, Dave wrote:
>Hey,
>Tried to reinstall the multimedia audio controller but couldnt bcoz the darned box
>couldnt find the right drivers. I guess I'll have to look for the Driver cd with
>the on-board sound card.
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Frank (1 messages posted)

After spending about four hours investigating this problem, Snipe's solution finally resolved it for me. Mr. Snipe, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your expertise. Many, many thanks. -Frank

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Jason (1 messages posted)

Many thanks for the above expertise, but my problem persists. I also have a greyed out volume control/No Audio Devices in Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling the soundcard, enabling and disabling AC97 audio from BIOS and device manager, and performing a repair of Windows. I tried to install the ISAPNP device as a software device enumerator and restarting, however this just resulted in two enumerators and conflicts for the kernel audio splitter and kernel acoustic echo canceller. Uninstalling the duplicate enumerator fixed the conflict, but the original problem remains. Any help is appreciated

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Posted by JMARKELL79 (1 messages posted)

I was having this problem for months what i did everything the forum says thats the fix and this is the last set delete the first plug and play En. thing (yea i know) rebot and it came on thanks to everybody i dropped a tear just one tho

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Sunday, July 6, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Posted by cocoloco (1 messages posted)

Snipe. I dont know where you got the instructions from but you are The ONE that save my live!. I cant belive it IT WORKS!!. Sound again!!! :D Thanks a lot you´re brilliant.


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 9:03 pm, Snipe wrote:
>I found this instructions when looking for an answer to this exact same problem,
>I followed the directions and wala! I now can see my sound card inthe greyed out
>areas again! Try it out fellas!
>
>
>Carl's solution worked like a charm for me, once I actually read it carefully enough
>to understand what was going on. It's truly a stroke of genius, and I strongly suggest
>you try his process before you go reinstalling your entire operating system.
>To recap in detail (for Windows XP; YMMV):
>1. From Device Manager (be sure to select View/Show hidden devices), find the 'ISAPNP
>Read Data Port' device from the System Devices list. (Of note: once I successfully
>repaired this problem, this device no longer appears.)
>2. Right click the ISAPNP device, and select "Update Driver"
>3. Select "Install from a list or specific location"
>4. Select "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install."
>5. The step I left out on prior trials: UNSELECT "Show Compatible Hardware"
>6. Be sure that "(Standard System Devices)" is selected under Manufacturer.
>7. Under Model, scroll down until you see "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".
>Select this item, and select "Next>".
>8. You will receive some frightening error message that you should probably disregard.
>9. Complete the installation of the driver. You will see your device list magically
>change before your eyes. The other PNP devices will mysteriously become enabled and
>active. If not, restart.
>
>Thank you for posting this solution; it has saved endless hours of reinstallation,
>and perhaps a marriage as well.
>
>
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Posted by dane (1 messages posted)

I feel so envious. I read carefully the whole thread and also things on other forums and this double enumerator thing seemed really promising because it helped so many people. But in the end nothing happened for me. After trying out all kinds of realtek hd audio versions, i did everything said here. And in the end after erasing the second enumerator no results, and also the ISNAPNP came back. Back to square one! If anyone from the people who had no luck with this approaches find something else, please let me know. Thank you all for dedicating your time for helping others


On Sunday, July 6, 2008 at 4:11 pm, cocoloco wrote:
>
>Snipe. I dont know where you got the instructions from but you are The ONE that save
>my live!. I cant belive it IT WORKS!!. Sound again!!! :D
>
>Thanks a lot you´re brilliant.
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Posted by john e (1 messages posted)

try this first! In XP go to control panel,sounds speech and audio devices, click on sounds tab,MAKE SURE WINDOWS DEFAULT is selected under sound schemes,click OK, reboot. Worked for me!


On Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 4:45 pm, dane wrote:
>I feel so envious. I read carefully the whole thread and also things on other forums
>and this double enumerator thing seemed really promising because it helped so many
>people. But in the end nothing happened for me. After trying out all kinds of realtek
>hd audio versions, i did everything said here. And in the end after erasing the second
>enumerator no results, and also the ISNAPNP came back. Back to square one! If anyone
>from the people who had no luck with this approaches find something else, please
>let me know.
>
>
>Thank you all for dedicating your time for helping others
>
>

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re: Here is the REAL answer!! =)
Thursday, July 31, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Jenna (1 messages posted)

My uncle just "fixed" my computer, cleaned everything up and reinstalled Windows XP and what not, I get home and this happened. One thing I noticed that nobody has mentioned yet, is that in my device manager, under sound, video and game controllers, it says "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC" has an error sign (!) next to the little grey audio speaker. I've tried everything everyone has said, but nothing has got it to work yet. But since this little error is next to it, which hasn't been mentioned, I'm hoping there's a different solution to this. Help very much appreciated :( Thanks!


On Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 3:17 pm, john e wrote:
> try this first! In XP
> go to control panel,sounds speech and audio devices, click on sounds tab,MAKE
>SURE WINDOWS DEFAULT is selected under sound schemes,click OK, reboot. Worked for
>me!
>
>
>

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re: I think I've got it
Thursday, August 14, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Posted by nads (1 messages posted)

hi i am having same problem even the ignoring terh girlfriend trick did not work as my uninstall driver tab is disabled any further help?? :(


On Friday, July 25, 2003 at 9:29 am, Dave wrote:
>Hey,
>Tried to reinstall the multimedia audio controller but couldnt bcoz the darned box
>couldnt find the right drivers. I guess I'll have to look for the Driver cd with
>the on-board sound card.
>
>

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re: I think I've got it
Tuesday, September 9, 2008 at 5:19 am
Posted by Leon Welchman (1 messages posted)

Hi all,

Followed all the tips here to the letter but still had no audio. Eventually I looked 
for the restore disks which came with my computer (Emachines 770). The main restore 
disk has never worked (!) so each time I've had to reformat I've used a Fujitsu Siemens 
disk instead. However, I did find a driver disk that came with my computer so I inserted 
it and luckily found an audio driver on there. I installed it, and hey presto! Sound! 
That was the ONLY thing that worked in my case, and I wish I'd thought of it in the 
first place and saved myself three hours of reading this thread and trying all of 
the tips on here.

Thanks to everyone though who spent time typing solutions. I guess every computer 
is different, and in my case, exasperating! I'm glad I didn't have to reformat though.

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Windows reports ''no audio device''
Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Posted by JOSE (2 messages posted)

Ok, I had the same problem with my AUDIO DEVICE. But thankfully now I know the problem to fixing this mistery, which many call a probable virus!! NO!! It's not a virus. It just so happens to be that when you try to place another sound card in to the mother board, it messes up the original default settings. Anyhow, getting to the point on how to fix the AUDIO MISTERY..1.Go to Control Panel.2.Go to sounds and audio devices. Now you notice that under volume it says NO AUDIO DEVICE. Well now let's go to step 3. Go to the AUDIO tab and on sound play back scroll down and find.. Vinyl AC'97 Audio[WAVE] now click on it. 4. Go under sound recording scroll down and find..Vinyl AC'97 Audio[WAVE] also click on it. 5. go under, MIDI music playback scroll down and find MPU-401. Now on the bottom right you have to click on APPLY. And now go back to VOLUME and you should have a AUDIO DEVICE. Now remember, if you have a diffrent audio device then just click on that particular device. Don't let it stay under modem#0 playback. You must make sure that you have clicked on an AUDIO DEVICE. Well I really hope that this would help many of you experiencing these crazy (NO AUDIO DEVICE) problems. Let me know if it really helped. Many people have diffrent ways of fixing there AUDIO DEVICE, but this is mine and I hope it can help because it helped me.. God bless and good luck to you all..

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, September 13, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Posted by vivek (1 messages posted)

Hi Jose, Thank you very much. This solution worked for me. I tried all other solutions in this forum and none of them worked for me. Luckily this solution worked for me. Thanks a lot.


On Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 3:41 pm, JOSE wrote:
>Ok, I had the same problem with my AUDIO DEVICE. But thankfully now I know the problem
>to fixing this mistery, which many call a probable virus!! NO!! It's not a virus.
>It just so happens to be that when you try to place another sound card in to the
>mother board, it messes up the original default settings. Anyhow, getting to the
>point on how to fix the AUDIO MISTERY..1.Go to Control Panel.2.Go to sounds and audio
>devices. Now you notice that under volume it says NO AUDIO DEVICE. Well now let's
>go to step 3. Go to the AUDIO tab and on sound play back scroll down and find.. Vinyl
>AC'97 Audio[WAVE] now click on it. 4. Go under sound recording scroll down and find..Vinyl
>AC'97 Audio[WAVE] also click on it. 5. go under, MIDI music playback scroll down
>and find MPU-401. Now on the bottom right you have to click on APPLY. And now go
>back to VOLUME and you should have a AUDIO DEVICE. Now remember, if you have a diffrent
>audio device then just click on that particular device. Don't let it stay under modem#0
>playback. You must make sure that you have clicked on an AUDIO DEVICE. Well I really
>hope that this would help many of you experiencing these crazy (NO AUDIO DEVICE)
>problems. Let me know if it really helped. Many people have diffrent ways of fixing
>there AUDIO DEVICE, but this is mine and I hope it can help because it helped me..
>God bless and good luck to you all..

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Saturday, September 13, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Posted by JOSE (2 messages posted)

you r welcome!

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re: Windows reports ''no audio device''
Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Posted by james (1 messages posted)

hey everyone I've been reading up on this whole situation, and the truth is i barely know anything about computers just the basics i guess.... but a friend of mine recently gave me a computer which included just the tower i don't even know the make of it, but the computer seemed to work fine until i guess i wanted to make some space because there were way to many programs i didn't need. i came to the conclusion that i deleted the sound program realtek AC97 on accident and I've been trying to restore the sound back to my comp since Friday. I've tried to do a system restore back to a previous date when the sound was there, and nothing..i always find myself going to the control panel.sounds and audio devices and it reports there is no audio device. I've also tried downloading the realtek ac97 program again and i get a message from windows saying that it does not recognize that file and i click continue and my computer restarts and i find myself back where i was...i honestly do not know what to do anymore.....any suggestions would be much appreciated thanks again


On Saturday, September 13, 2008 at 6:06 pm, JOSE wrote:
>you r welcome!

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