When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the fans 
still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
of standby".

Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
keeping the system from shutting down completely?

Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000

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I may be talking through my hat. When a computer goes into standby various essential hardware is still working. The fan(s) to keep your cpu and computer cool would seem to qualify. Hard drive and monitor, etc. seem to be teporarily unneccessary. if you were to use hibernate, all functions would cease and the computer will save all settings to resume the last files used.


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:

>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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This problem is most likely due to the way that XP is handling the power saving features 
of your computer.

There are two types of power management: ACPI and APM.  APM utilizes power states 
that are somewhat limited, e.g. during standby only the monitor and HD are shut down, 
but CPU fans, etc keep running.  ACPI, however, utilizes more effective power states, 
using either the S3 state (suspend to RAM) or the S4 state (suspend to disk, or "hibernate").

It appears that previously you were able to use ACPI, and now only APM is functioning 
on your system.  Hence, you still hear the fans running.  You may need to upgrade 
the drivers for your motherboard's chipset so that XP can work properly with your 
system, or make adjustments to your BIOS.  However, I would first consult Dell for 
more info; changing BIOS settings can be devastating if you aren't familiar with 
what those settings mean.

Look at this link for more info on APM and ACPI.
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=116

Good luck to you.

Ben






On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:
>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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Get the latest BIOS upgrade for your Dell. Some of the old BIOS's do not switch the fan off. This was rectified in later BIOS versions.


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:

>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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Mike, Did you ever solve this problem? At least on my machine It is definitely NOT a BIOS issue. I am having a similar problem and I think that it is related to MS Messenger. I am not sure that this is what is causing the problem, but I have 5 user accounts on my system with identical Power Options settings. Three of them have never run Messenger. When I go into Standby from these three accounts the fans stop. Going into standby from the other two accounts leaves the fans running. Once you have run Messenger on a user account I think the fans will no longer turn off when you try to go into standby while you are logged onto that account or while you are at the logon screen after logging off from that account. This still happens on these accounts even though I am now preventing Messenger from running by having renamed the Program Files/Messenger directory. I am sure that this could be corrected by some clever registry setting, but I do not know what it is. Does anyone out there know what to change in the registry to fix this?


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:

>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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I've had the same problems when migrating from Win2K to WinXp. The solution was as follows: I reinstalled WinXP over my original installation, thus preserving all my user specific settings. Then I found that if i use a newly created private energy profile (in energy options) the problem with the runnig fans at CPU und power supply remained. But when I used a predefined profile (i.e. "minimized battery consumption" translated from german "minimale Batterieinanspruchnahme") standby mode was entered correctly and all fans were switched off. hope this will help someone ... Jörg


On Friday, December 20, 2002 at 4:26 am, Eric Haberfellner wrote:
>Mike,
>
>Did you ever solve this problem?
>
>At least on my machine It is definitely NOT a BIOS issue.
>
>I am having a similar problem and I think that it is related to MS Messenger. I am
>not sure that this is what is causing the problem, but I have 5 user accounts on
>my system with identical Power Options settings. Three of them have never run Messenger.
>When I go into Standby from these three accounts the fans stop. Going into standby
>from the other two accounts leaves the fans running. Once you have run Messenger
>on a user account I think the fans will no longer turn off when you try to go into
>standby while you are logged onto that account or while you are at the logon screen
>after logging off from that account. This still happens on these accounts even though
>I am now preventing Messenger from running by having renamed the Program Files/Messenger
>directory. I am sure that this could be corrected by some clever registry setting,
>but I do not know what it is. Does anyone out there know what to change in the registry
>to fix this?
>

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I have XP., and I am having getting to the BIOS mode. Could you please tell me what to press and when.


On Thursday, September 5, 2002 at 8:03 am, Marius wrote:
>Get the latest BIOS upgrade for your Dell. Some of the old BIOS's do not switch the
>fan off. This was rectified in later BIOS versions.
>
>

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Hey guys...i just bought my Dell 8200: 120 Gig HD 1GB RDRAM Radeon 9700 Pro 2.4 GHz P4---- In the beginning,(1st of Jan-Feb 13th '03) when i would put the computer on STANDBY...EVERYTHING would turn off....no fans would turn on...no audible sound AT ALL. NOW all of a sudden, when i NOW(February 14th '03) put the computer on STANDBY, i hear a fan that is still on NOW and the hard drive winds down. I dont know about you guys but...i do not like this sudden change(like night to day change). Ive tried everything; Changing power setting profile to Minimal Battery Usage(no result), Going to Power Options(no "APC" tab at all..but there is a "UPS" tab..?"), called DELL tech support...they said it was running fine(could not explain why this change would occurr), but have not yet looked into a BIOS resulotion to this change....Any suggestions? Thanks for your time guys.


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:

>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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I have an FIC AZ11E MB and I am running Win2000. I had to change a BIOS setting under power mgt menu that was labeled something like 'fan state on standby' and the values are 'on' and 'off'. Off setting works like a charm. Not sure what MB you have but look at the bios for something like this and it may fix it up for you. FYI- I checked my heatsink with my finger when I made this change to be sure I wasn't cooking my chip and it felt nice and cool. Have been running this arrangement about 24/7 for a month now w/o probs. good luck, dave


On Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 7:46 am, matt wrote:
>Hey guys...i just bought my Dell 8200:
>120 Gig HD
>1GB RDRAM
>Radeon 9700 Pro
>2.4 GHz P4----
>
> In the beginning,(1st of Jan-Feb 13th '03) when i would put the
>computer on STANDBY...EVERYTHING would turn off....no fans would turn on...no audible
>sound AT ALL.
>NOW all of a sudden, when i NOW(February 14th '03) put the computer on STANDBY, i
>hear a fan that is still on NOW and the hard drive winds down. I dont know about
>you guys but...i do not like this sudden change(like night to day change). Ive tried
>everything; Changing power setting profile to Minimal Battery Usage(no result), Going
>to Power Options(no "APC" tab at all..but there is a "UPS" tab..?"), called DELL
>tech support...they said it was running fine(could not explain why this change would
>occurr), but have not yet looked into a BIOS resulotion to this change....Any suggestions?
>Thanks for your time guys.
>
>

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My computer also has a 120GB hard drive. I have an nVidia Geforce 3 Ti 200, and Windows 
XP Professional. I'd love to be able to get it to STR (Suspend to RAM [S3]) correctly. 
When I hit standby in Windows, I get the preparing to standby message, and then everything 
shuts off. This includes the monitor, keyboard, mouse, all the fans, everything. 
The only indication of activity is the power light is flashing green instead of not 
showing anything at all. This is good, it shows me that it has successfully suspended 
to ram. I hit the power button, and with in 4 seconds, all my hardware; keyboard, 
mouse, monitor, etc come back on and I see my Windows exactly how I left it. But 
there is a problem. I look at my hard drive light on the front panel of my computer, 
and it is solid red. It eventually will just go off and stay off. Nevertheless, if 
I do anything in Windows that will require it to refer back to the hard drive (which 
is almost anything), Windows will begin to lock up. I will either get an "Unknown 
Hard Error",  a lock up, or a "Kernel In_page Error". 

For me, I guess the problem is that the system will resume from S3 STR, but it just 
won't bring back the hard drive. I am sure I tried all the possible power management 
settings in the bios, and still had no luck. I am just guessing, that since 120GB 
drives are fairly new, and BIOS support for them is fairly new as well, that some 
BIOS's contain a bug or don't support waking a 120Gb hard disk. I dunno, that's my 
guress. If someone is able to configure a 120GB disk with their BIOS to work with 
STR standby, please tell me your configurations.

Thanks

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I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB. 
 Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB 
and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring 
the computer out of standby" is not checked.  Any USB device that is set up to bring 
the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves 
the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to 
the usb root hub for the device.  Maybe that helps some of you? 


>I have an FIC AZ11E MB and I am running Win2000. I had to change a BIOS setting 
under 
>power mgt menu that was labeled something like 'fan state on standby' and the values 
>are 'on' and 'off'. Off setting works like a charm. Not sure what MB you have but 
>look at the bios for something like this and it may fix it up for you. FYI- I checked 
>my heatsink with my finger when I made this change to be sure I wasn't cooking my 
>chip and it felt nice and cool. Have been running this arrangement about 24/7 for 
>a month now w/o probs.
>good luck, dave
>
>

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Matt, I have the EXACT same configuration Dell 8250, and I have experienced the EXACT same symptoms you have described. Standby worked fine for a few months, then suddenly, the fan would not shut off. I have suspected it may be related to the Radeon 9700 Pro card. I have not yet called Dell tech support, but Im wondering if you ever found a solution?????


On Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 7:46 am, matt wrote:
>Hey guys...i just bought my Dell 8200:
>120 Gig HD
>1GB RDRAM
>Radeon 9700 Pro
>2.4 GHz P4----
>
> In the beginning,(1st of Jan-Feb 13th '03) when i would put the
>computer on STANDBY...EVERYTHING would turn off....no fans would turn on...no audible
>sound AT ALL.
>NOW all of a sudden, when i NOW(February 14th '03) put the computer on STANDBY, i
>hear a fan that is still on NOW and the hard drive winds down. I dont know about
>you guys but...i do not like this sudden change(like night to day change). Ive tried
>everything; Changing power setting profile to Minimal Battery Usage(no result), Going
>to Power Options(no "APC" tab at all..but there is a "UPS" tab..?"), called DELL
>tech support...they said it was running fine(could not explain why this change would
>occurr), but have not yet looked into a BIOS resulotion to this change....Any suggestions?
>Thanks for your time guys.
>
>

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HEY DAN! well...Aaron's solution of changing your mouse's properties to NOT allow it to bring the computer out of standby is what solved my problem...FOR GOOD!(Thanks again Aaron!) I remember changing my properties on the mouse like the night before the fan started going on after the computer was on standby...never really thought that could be the problem, but it was. Hope it works for you! Dont call Dell tech support either...they'll either tell you to close a bunch of programs on your task manager or OPEN UP THE CASE to RESEAT your power supply, do buy these solutions....I didnt!


On Tuesday, April 29, 2003 at 8:23 pm, Dan wrote:
>Matt, I have the EXACT same configuration Dell 8250, and I have experienced the EXACT
>same symptoms you have described. Standby worked fine for a few months, then suddenly,
>the fan would not shut off. I have suspected it may be related to the Radeon 9700
>Pro card. I have not yet called Dell tech support, but Im wondering if you ever
>found a solution?????
>
>
>
>

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Thanks a lot Jörg!..This solved the problem for me. After setting Windows XP power options to "Minimal Power Management", my system now goes into sleep s3 mode :))


On Monday, January 6, 2003 at 3:10 am, Jörg Meyer wrote:
>I've had the same problems when migrating from Win2K to WinXp. The solution was as
>follows:
>
>I reinstalled WinXP over my original installation, thus preserving all my user specific
>settings. Then I found that if i use a newly created private energy profile (in energy
>options) the problem with the runnig fans at CPU und power supply remained.
>
>But when I used a predefined profile (i.e. "minimized battery consumption" translated
>from german "minimale Batterieinanspruchnahme") standby mode was entered correctly
>and all fans were switched off.
>
>hope this will help someone ... Jörg
>
>

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Thanks all!! I have had a lot of headache about this, but not anymore!!!


On Thursday, May 1, 2003 at 9:04 pm, Matt wrote:
>HEY DAN! well...Aaron's solution of changing your mouse's properties to NOT allow
>it to bring the computer out of standby is what solved my problem...FOR GOOD!(Thanks
>again Aaron!) I remember changing my properties on the mouse like the night before
>the fan started going on after the computer was on standby...never really thought
>that could be the problem, but it was. Hope it works for you! Dont call Dell tech
>support either...they'll either tell you to close a bunch of programs on your task
>manager or OPEN UP THE CASE to RESEAT your power supply, do buy these solutions....I
>didnt!
>
>

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Well, nice work guys! I had just formatted my hdd with xp home, installed xp pro, loaded all my drivers, and then when I tried to standby, fans would still spin away. It was my logitech mouse driver, disabled "use this device to resume from standby" and no problems any more!


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:

>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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I had the same problem of the fan continuing to run with a Logitech cordless mouse that I had plugged into the USB port on my Sony Vaio. There are no applicable mouse properties in my XP Pro setup to allow a power parm fix. So, my resolution, now that I knew it was mouse related, was to shutdown the computer so a cold boot would occur, move the mouse sensor from the USB port to the PS2 mouse port (using the green conversion plug from Logitech provided with the mouse), and then startup the computer.


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:

>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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Yuor problem is a directional one. Moving to XP from 2000 is NOT up. I am soooo glad I stayed with W2K. Good luck. Bob J


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:

>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the 
fans 
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and 
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out 
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is 
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000
>

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It so 2004 by now and despite all WinXP patches I still had similar problems with fans running in the standby mode in some accounts but not all of them. The good news is that Jörg's method of selecting Minimal Power Management in Power Schemes (in Control Panel / Power Options) seems to work. However, does anybody know what is really going on ?


On Saturday, May 31, 2003 at 5:19 pm, Marc Tache wrote:
>Thanks a lot Jörg!..This solved the problem for me. After setting Windows XP power
>options to "Minimal Power Management", my system now goes into sleep s3 mode :))
>
>

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I have a problem somewhat similar but not quite and was wondering if anyone could help me. PLEASE!! When I start my computer, the CPU fan comes on and then it sounds like the PC is starting up normally. But it really doesn't because my monitor doesn't start up, it is as though it is permanently in standby mode. That is the monitor's light is green, but no signal comes in from the PC to start XP and I don't know what to do. The monitor isn't a problem, but I don't know where it is coming from. This has happened to two of my computers now. Anyone know what I can do?? Thanks in advance. Amanda


On Saturday, February 21, 2004 at 1:05 pm, Bogs wrote:
>It so 2004 by now and despite all WinXP patches I still had similar problems with
>fans running in the standby mode in some accounts but not all of them.
>The good news is that Jörg's method of selecting Minimal Power Management in Power
>Schemes (in Control Panel / Power Options) seems to work.
>
>However, does anybody know what is really going on ?
>
>

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My problem is similar. (System was OK when my Dell Dimension 4400 was new, but appeared months later.) Also, if I try to go to Standby from the Start Menu, it usually takes several attempts. My Control Panel shows no "APM" tab. I tried the USB Root Hub fix suggested by others, but no luck. Looking for suggestions


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:
>
>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the fans
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000

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More info...Haven't yet solved the problem, but have just learned something! I created a new user account in XP and when I login to the new account, the problem does not occur, the power management works fine. Then if I go back and login to the original user account, the problem returns. This tells me that the problem is not in the bios, and probably not a hardware problem. The same processes run regardless of which account I am logged into. Ergo, problem must be due to something in the registry!


On Tuesday, June 15, 2004 at 6:22 am, W. Long wrote:
>My problem is similar. (System was OK when my Dell Dimension 4400 was new, but appeared
>months later.) Also, if I try to go to Standby from the Start Menu, it usually takes
>several attempts. My Control Panel shows no "APM" tab. I tried the USB Root Hub
>fix suggested by others, but no luck. Looking for suggestions
>
>
>

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If you do that, how do you get it out of standby?


On Monday, April 21, 2003 at 11:24 pm, Aaron wrote:
>
>I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB.
> Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB
>and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring
>the computer out of standby" is not checked. Any USB device that is set up to bring
>the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves
>the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to
>the usb root hub for the device. Maybe that helps some of you?
>
>
>>I have an FIC AZ11E MB and I am running Win2000. I had to change a BIOS setting
>under
>>power mgt menu that was labeled something like 'fan state on standby' and the values
>>are 'on' and 'off'. Off setting works like a charm. Not sure what MB you have but
>>look at the bios for something like this and it may fix it up for you. FYI- I checked
>>my heatsink with my finger when I made this change to be sure I wasn't cooking my
>>chip and it felt nice and cool. Have been running this arrangement about 24/7 for
>>a month now w/o probs.
>>good luck, dave
>>
>>

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THANK YOU!!!! Just set up a new Dell 9100 and was having the same fan problem you described. Dell support was of NO HELP. Just spent about 2 hrs. running diagnostics to no avail. They are ready to replace the notebook for me. Thought I' rather try a Google search and fortunately, I found your post. Can't thank you enough... as I have spent all day yesterday installing apps and drivers for my system... You saved me at least 12 hours of work... and frustration. Jerry


On Sunday, June 20, 2004 at 7:55 am, L wrote:
>If you do that, how do you get it out of standby?
>
>
>

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BRIEFLY pressing the on/off button will take you out of standby.


On Sunday, June 20, 2004 at 7:55 am, L wrote:
>If you do that, how do you get it out of standby?
>
>
>

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I am also having standby problems but different. I have a dell inspiron 5150 and when comming out of standby I loose my sound and have to restart to get it back and I have no idea why. Dell tech support hasnt been of any great help the in past so am not holding my breath that they know what it is so if anyone has ideas that would be great


On Tuesday, April 29, 2003 at 8:23 pm, Dan wrote:
>Matt, I have the EXACT same configuration Dell 8250, and I have experienced the EXACT
>same symptoms you have described. Standby worked fine for a few months, then suddenly,
>the fan would not shut off. I have suspected it may be related to the Radeon 9700
>Pro card. I have not yet called Dell tech support, but Im wondering if you ever
>found a solution?????
>
>
>
>

[Reply or follow-up to this message]

Thanks Aaron, it also solved my problem. Keyboard and mice are USB and new Logitech...


On Monday, April 21, 2003 at 11:24 pm, Aaron wrote:
>
>I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB.
> Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB
>and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring
>the computer out of standby" is not checked. Any USB device that is set up to bring
>the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves
>the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to
>the usb root hub for the device. Maybe that helps some of you?
>
>
>>I have an FIC AZ11E MB and I am running Win2000. I had to change a BIOS setting
>under
>>power mgt menu that was labeled something like 'fan state on standby' and the values
>>are 'on' and 'off'. Off setting works like a charm. Not sure what MB you have but
>>look at the bios for something like this and it may fix it up for you. FYI- I checked
>>my heatsink with my finger when I made this change to be sure I wasn't cooking my
>>chip and it felt nice and cool. Have been running this arrangement about 24/7 for
>>a month now w/o probs.
>>good luck, dave
>>
>>

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THANK YOU so much for pointing out the logitech mouse driver problem! Standby problem all fixed! For those of you having problems coming OUT of standby (a problem I've had, too!), read KB Article #317272. Billy Boy's aware of it ;-}


On Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 10:44 pm, Amanda Nou wrote:
>I have a problem somewhat similar but not quite and was wondering if anyone could
>help me. PLEASE!! When I start my computer, the CPU fan comes on and then it sounds
>like the PC is starting up normally. But it really doesn't because my monitor doesn't
>start up, it is as though it is permanently in standby mode. That is the monitor's
>light is green, but no signal comes in from the PC to start XP and I don't know what
>to do. The monitor isn't a problem, but I don't know where it is coming from. This
>has happened to two of my computers now. Anyone know what I can do?? Thanks in
>advance.
>
>Amanda
>
>

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I read this June 2004 posting today (Feb 2005)about S3 standby state working for different users. Were you able to figure out what caused this and how to fix it? My PC won't go into S3 state under Admin account. I created a new user and that account will go into S3(fans off). I've tried everything to fixit...disable wake from sleep on USB Mouse...registry fix for USBBIOSx, etc. But still not having any luck. Any ideas? Thanks, Steven.


On Wednesday, June 16, 2004 at 7:18 pm, W. Long wrote:
>More info...Haven't yet solved the problem, but have just learned something! I created
>a new user account in XP and when I login to the new account, the problem does not
>occur, the power management works fine. Then if I go back and login to the original
>user account, the problem returns. This tells me that the problem is not in the
>bios, and probably not a hardware problem. The same processes run regardless of
>which account I am logged into. Ergo, problem must be due to something in the registry!
>
>
>

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Steven, I'm still stumped!


On Monday, February 7, 2005 at 4:15 pm, Steven Elliot wrote:
> I read this June 2004 posting today (Feb 2005)about S3 standby state working for
>different users. Were you able to figure out what caused this and how to fix it?
> My PC won't go into S3 state under Admin account. I created a new user and that
>account will go into S3(fans off). I've tried everything to fixit...disable wake
>from sleep on USB Mouse...registry fix for USBBIOSx, etc. But still not having any
>luck. Any ideas? Thanks, Steven.
>
>

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Steven I downloaded and installed the Sleeper program. It's a great workaround, thanks so much for telling me about it. I will use it until I eventually find out why Windows wont do it properly. Regards, Bill


On Monday, February 7, 2005 at 4:54 pm, W. Long wrote:
>Steven, I'm still stumped!
>
>
>

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I've a similar but stranger problem. When I shutdown sometimes the fan(s) keep running. However the power light does go out. If I press the power button for 4-5 seconds the fans stop. I have made the change to the power setting for my USB mouse but haven't confirmed if this will help. Anyone else have similar problem. I'm not using any of the power settings. AMD Thunderbird 850 Windows XP SP2


On Thursday, February 17, 2005 at 8:32 pm, W. Long wrote:
>Steven
> I downloaded and installed the Sleeper program. It's a great workaround, thanks
>so much for telling me about it. I will use it until I eventually find out why Windows
>wont do it properly. Regards, Bill
>
>
>
>

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thank you so much.. i've had similar bad experiences with dell tech support. and i had this problem after i installed a new mouse too :-D


On Monday, April 21, 2003 at 11:24 pm, Aaron wrote:
>
>I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB.
> Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB
>and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring
>the computer out of standby" is not checked. Any USB device that is set up to bring
>the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves
>the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to
>the usb root hub for the device. Maybe that helps some of you?
>
>
>>I have an FIC AZ11E MB and I am running Win2000. I had to change a BIOS setting
>under
>>power mgt menu that was labeled something like 'fan state on standby' and the values
>>are 'on' and 'off'. Off setting works like a charm. Not sure what MB you have but
>>look at the bios for something like this and it may fix it up for you. FYI- I checked
>>my heatsink with my finger when I made this change to be sure I wasn't cooking my
>>chip and it felt nice and cool. Have been running this arrangement about 24/7 for
>>a month now w/o probs.
>>good luck, dave
>>
>>

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I have had the same problem quite often. Everything is configured as suggested here, but XP stubbornly goes to S1 (fans ON) instead of S3 (blessed silence) as it should. Often some "playing around" with power schemes helped, however not always. So there's probably something wonky with XP power scheme tool. Big surprise. SpeedswitchXP is really meant for laptops with variable CPU frequency, but it works just fine for desktop PCs too. So when it's made a power scheme, that really makes my windows box suspend unlike the control panel tool.

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I found by unplugging my USB mouse before going to standby, the problem is fixed. I can then plug it back in and get any number of successful standbys while it's still plugged in. There must be some capacitance discharge in the mouse or driver bugs that are causing the problem.


On Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 5:19 am, High Sierra wrote:
>I've a similar but stranger problem. When I shutdown sometimes the fan(s) keep running.
>However the power light does go out.
>
> If I press the power button for 4-5 seconds the fans stop.
>
> I have made the change to the power setting for my USB mouse but haven't confirmed
>if this will help.
>
> Anyone else have similar problem.
>
> I'm not using any of the power settings.
>
>AMD Thunderbird 850
>Windows XP SP2
>
>
>

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I'm looking for a solution to the problem described by Atom below. I can't seem to find one in the thread. Any ideas/solutions welcome. Thx. PS: I also have a 5150. ralph


On Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 9:25 pm, Atom wrote:
>I am also having standby problems but different. I have a dell inspiron 5150 and
>when comming out of standby I loose my sound and have to restart to get it back and
>I have no idea why. Dell tech support hasnt been of any great help the in past so
>am not holding my breath that they know what it is so if anyone has ideas that would
>be great
>
>
>

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XP...I started with a new HP (2005) with the standard packaging that comes with the machine. The problems started as I tried to add the software that was only 3 month trials. MS office, Norton etc, Spyware protection etc. As soon as I upgraded Nortons it would no longer time out to a shut down mode. As soon as the standby mode was reached you can never wake up the machine without a Hard-reboot. I store bought the software becuase I like to own a disk and perhaps that is where the problem lies. Even though I upgreaded several of these programs like Spyware protect I get a reminder that I can buy it at a discount. (Unfortunatly I bought it at full price from HP while trying to resolve some of these problems) How do you get rid of the adds that are supposed to be removed by the programs that you just bought and installed of the same software that is already on your machine that is supposed to protect you from pop ups. (Im laughing here) After upgrading the Nortons trial pkg. the system, standby mode locks up. I had a Belkin KVM switch before (that I gave up on) that I was using for shareing which also does not work well with the XP operating system. It would periodically loose the mouse and or the keyboard with the HP, Intel P4 XP machine yet have no problems with the generic P2 CPU Win98 operating system connected threw the same Belkin switch for monitor, mouse, keyboard sharing. You just have to laugh...I was disscussing it with one of my friends from COX communications and they have had all kinds of lockup problems also with the XP systems they installed at work. Many of them, I hear, are just going back to Win 2000. Im tired of spending dow on a money PIT, and my wife gets tired of me spending all my time on a PC. Ill just work with it I guess and realize that XP is only a Beta for Microsofts next and upcomming new thing better and more powerful.....(Im still laughing).


On Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 9:25 pm, Atom wrote:
>I am also having standby problems but different. I have a dell inspiron 5150 and
>when comming out of standby I loose my sound and have to restart to get it back and
>I have no idea why. Dell tech support hasnt been of any great help the in past so
>am not holding my breath that they know what it is so if anyone has ideas that would
>be great
>
>
>

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I've had this problem for a while. This happend after I bought a Power Supply from CompUSA. Ever since I've had it, the fan never goes off in standby. What's the best way to prevent this from happening in the future... I tried Power Management but that doesnt seem to do anything. Is there a way to override it?

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I'm a PC tech who has trouble shot this same problem on the same laptop, running XP SP2. I noticed that it was due to a conflict with the external USB wireless mouse. Remove the mouse, go back into standby and come back out .. and presto - Sound. Another thing I noticed it that when the sound is not working on the laptop's speaker, it IS available if you plug in a set of headphones. I did not find any help from Dell. Would appreciate others comments. Jami

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My computer has worked always worked in S3 (everything turned off) standby mode up until a week ago. It started only working in S1 (hard drive powers down but fans on). It just so happened that reinstalled my USB mouse around the time the problem started happening and, by default, when you install a USB mouse windows sets it to allow it to bring the computer out of standby (Mouse properties in Device Manager under the Power Management tab). I unchecked the box and it works fine now. Microsoft kinda touched on it in the following link http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;841858 "To prevent a negative end-user experience, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 modify the power capabilities that are returned by the BIOS. Therefore, the system only supports wake by using the USB for the S1 system power state. If there is no USB device that is armed for wake from a system power state, the system enters the S3 system power state during standby." Simply disable your USB devices from allowing the computer to return from standby.


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:
>
>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the fans
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000

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I also am having a problem when coming out of standby. I'm running windows xp on a dell inspiron 5150. When I come out of standby, the fan comes on and will not shut off. If I completely turn the computer off and then restart, the fan functions properly and does not stay on continuously. I would really appreciate any help since the Dell reps haven't been able to fix the problem.


On Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 9:25 pm, Atom wrote:
>I am also having standby problems but different. I have a dell inspiron 5150 and
>when comming out of standby I loose my sound and have to restart to get it back and
>I have no idea why. Dell tech support hasnt been of any great help the in past so
>am not holding my breath that they know what it is so if anyone has ideas that would
>be great
>
>
>

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Hey guys, I have a similar problem about the fans. The first months i had my PC (Intel 4 with XP Pro), when I put it in stand by mode, the fans shut down. But recently, the BIOS was reset to default and now the fans keep running in stand by. I did not install any new hardware, did not reinstalled my OS, did not upgraded my OS. Any idea how to configure the BIOS so the fans will shut the hell down? Note: In standby, the CPU does not receive any electricity, therefore, does not need any cooling devices.

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Anyone who has not checked on Aarons suggestion of checking the power configuration 
for ANY USB device really needs to do so.  In my case as many others I had installed 
(and/or updated drivers) a new USB keybaord and mouse that updated these settings. 
 As soon as I changed them, it corrected them.  





On a basic understanding, this is a hardware coded feature that intel had a hand 
in (I found some Intel technical doc that was all about the S1-S4 power settings 
and USB) - Anway, it has to be a device that can effect power management and/or the 
BIOS that controls hardware.  

If your issue is not the USB power management settings it would most likely be something 
found int he BIOS.  

Good luck to all. 

P.S.  - I am running a Dell 8400 P4 3.0Ghz






On Monday, August 22, 2005 at 12:28 pm, Ben wrote:

>Hey guys, I have a similar problem about the fans. The first months i had my PC 
(Intel 

>4 with XP Pro), when I put it in stand by mode, the fans shut down. But recently, 

>the BIOS was reset to default and now the fans keep running in stand by. I did not 

>install any new hardware, did not reinstalled my OS, did not upgraded my OS. Any 

>idea how to configure the  BIOS so the fans will shut the hell down? Note: In standby, 

>the CPU does not receive any electricity, therefore, does not need any cooling devices. 

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This did the trick. I am running Asus A7N8X-E with AthlonXP3000+ Barton. Phoenix Tech Bios Rev 1008. Standby was fine until I did a recent "Windows update". Then, would continue to run all fans in standby mode. Fiddled with all the power setting without luck. Per this suggestion, noted that "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" in keyboard power management (in Devices Manager) was checked. Using a Logitech cordless keyboard and MX700 Duo. Unchecked it and everything was back to normal. Don't know how it got changed, but I certainly didn't do it, so I suspect may be related to some software update. Thanks for the suggestion, Aaron!


On Monday, April 21, 2003 at 11:24 pm, Aaron wrote:
>
>I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB.
> Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB
>and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring
>the computer out of standby" is not checked. Any USB device that is set up to bring
>the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves
>the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to
>the usb root hub for the device. Maybe that helps some of you?
>
>
>>I have an FIC AZ11E MB and I am running Win2000. I had to change a BIOS setting
>under
>>power mgt menu that was labeled something like 'fan state on standby' and the values
>>are 'on' and 'off'. Off setting works like a charm. Not sure what MB you have but
>>look at the bios for something like this and it may fix it up for you. FYI- I checked
>>my heatsink with my finger when I made this change to be sure I wasn't cooking my
>>chip and it felt nice and cool. Have been running this arrangement about 24/7 for
>>a month now w/o probs.
>>good luck, dave
>>
>>

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The solution : go to device manager and be sure under the power management tab of the keyboard or mice setting, to uncheck the "allow to bring back from standby mode"... here's the solution to me !!!


On Friday, September 2, 2005 at 3:39 pm, ReluctantWindowsUser wrote:
>This did the trick. I am running Asus A7N8X-E with AthlonXP3000+ Barton. Phoenix
>Tech Bios Rev 1008. Standby was fine until I did a recent "Windows update". Then,
>would continue to run all fans in standby mode. Fiddled with all the power setting
>without luck. Per this suggestion, noted that "Allow this device to bring the computer
>out of standby" in keyboard power management (in Devices Manager) was checked. Using
>a Logitech cordless keyboard and MX700 Duo. Unchecked it and everything was back
>to normal. Don't know how it got changed, but I certainly didn't do it, so I suspect
>may be related to some software update. Thanks for the suggestion, Aaron!
>
>
>

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Your advice on turning off the option to allow the usb device to power up the machine worked like a charm. Thanks.


On Monday, April 21, 2003 at 11:24 pm, Aaron wrote:
>
>I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB.
> Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB
>and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring
>the computer out of standby" is not checked. Any USB device that is set up to bring
>the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves
>the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to
>the usb root hub for the device. Maybe that helps some of you?
>
>
>>I have an FIC AZ11E MB and I am running Win2000. I had to change a BIOS setting
>under
>>power mgt menu that was labeled something like 'fan state on standby' and the values
>>are 'on' and 'off'. Off setting works like a charm. Not sure what MB you have but
>>look at the bios for something like this and it may fix it up for you. FYI- I checked
>>my heatsink with my finger when I made this change to be sure I wasn't cooking my
>>chip and it felt nice and cool. Have been running this arrangement about 24/7 for
>>a month now w/o probs.
>>good luck, dave
>>
>>

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After adding a wireless optical mouse via usb socket, my computer keeps coming out of stand by. I do not have a power management tab on the mouse or keyboard properties and therefore cannot uncheck "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" can any one suggest anything else I could try?


On Thursday, October 6, 2005 at 11:39 am, Alan O wrote:
>Your advice on turning off the option to allow the usb device to power up the machine
>worked like a charm. Thanks.
>
>
>

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To get to the power options for your keyboard and mouse, you either need to go through the device manager (start menu, run, type "devmgmt.msc" in the blank, then click ok) or you can go into the control panel's mouse option (control panel, mouse, hardware tab, click properties at the bottom). Once you have pulled up this screen either way, click on the power management tab and check to see if the allow box is checked, if so, uncheck it. Hope this helps.


On Wednesday, December 7, 2005 at 6:12 am, Krys M wrote:
>
>After adding a wireless optical mouse via usb socket, my computer keeps coming out
>of stand by. I do not have a power management tab on the mouse or keyboard properties
>and therefore cannot uncheck "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby"
>can any one suggest anything else I could try?
>
>

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Why Windows XP PRO does not shut down the computer?


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:
>
>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the fans
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000 Windows XP Discussion Forum" Why Windows XP PRO does not shot down

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The only method that enabled my new Dell desktop to enter the S3 state (no fans running) using the timer in Windows XP power options was to select "Minimal Power Management"


On Saturday, May 31, 2003 at 5:19 pm, Marc Tache wrote:
>Thanks a lot Jörg!..This solved the problem for me. After setting Windows XP power
>options to "Minimal Power Management", my system now goes into sleep s3 mode :))
>
>

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This thread has been going on for years, but I just found it, and it helped me. I have a Dell Inspiron 5160. Everything was woking fine until I added, on the same day, a Logitech MX610 wireless mouse and a Linksys wireless router. After I added those, my laptop would not go to standby when I shut the top nor would the fan turn off. I sent seven to eight hours trying to the fix the problem. I was on the phone with my local ISP, Dell, and Linksys. I never suspected the mouse. Each person said it was someone else's problem. Dell wanted me to wipe my hard drive and start from scratch! How may hours would that take! So I kept playing around with my settings and searching the web. I found this discussion link and did the following. I have Windows XP. I went to: Start > Control Panel > Mouse > Hardware (tab) and highlighted Logitech Mouse > Properties > Power Management (tab) > de-selected "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby." I then shut my computer down for the night (because I had been using it all day and it was hot - even with the fan running). Then next day all was back to normal! Thanks! Dave

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I have had some problems regarding "Standby Fans on" and "HID Keyboard device is 
preventing the machine from entering standby".

1) First I had the "HID keyboard" problem but this was solve by reinstalling WinXP 
(ONLY WinXP, NOT a single program). 

2) Then the "Fans on" problem began and I began searching the net for a solution. 
Have tried the "Power Sheme Option" without a result. As you state in the last post, 
S3 state CANNOT be used if you have enable an USB device and configured it with "Allow 
this device to bring the computer out of standby". 

3) My problem is just that I NEED to have S3 and an USB-device working together because 
of the following two reasons:

 a) My setup is a HTPC which has not a powerbutton in front, only my keyboard and 
mouse may resume from it.

 b) My HTPC uses a Pentium M processor together with a CT479 Adapter. Its a 100x16 
= 1600Mhz processor but IF I set the HTPC in standby without checking the "Allow 
this device to bring..." on the USB keyboard then the HTPC will only resume from 
standby (by pressen the powerbutton) with a much lower multiplier (100x6 =600Mhz). 
The strange thing is just that this problem doesn't happen when I check the "Allow 
this device". 

Have found out that when I install WinXP, as state earlier the ONLY problem is the 
fans. Bios is set to:

Suspend mode: [Auto]
Repost video on S3 resume: [No]
ACPI 2.0 Support: [No]
ACPI APIC Support: [Yes]

If I then change my bios to this:

Suspend mode: [S3]
Repost video on S3 resume: [No]
ACPI 2.0 Support: [Yes]
ACPI APIC Support: [Yes]

Then the problem with "HID Keyboard device is preventing the machine from entering 
standby" begins and it will NOT be fixable by just change it back. You simple need 
to reinstall WinXP from the begining.


As you can read from above it is a very crytic situation and I have now spend about 
40-50 hours over the last 1½ month searching for a solution without any result. This 
thread was far the most best thread I have found so I decided to post here and see 
what comes.

Looking forward to receive some responds...







On Tuesday, August 16, 2005 at 6:06 am, David Morar wrote:

>My computer has worked always worked in S3 (everything turned off) standby mode 
up 

>until a week ago. It started only working in S1 (hard drive powers down but fans 

>on). It just so happened that reinstalled my USB mouse around the time the problem 

>started happening and, by default, when you install a USB mouse windows sets it 
to 

>allow it to bring the computer out of standby (Mouse properties in Device Manager 

>under the Power Management tab). I unchecked the box and it works fine now.

>

>Microsoft kinda touched on it in the following link http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;841858

>

>"To prevent a negative end-user experience, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 modify 

>the power capabilities that are returned by the BIOS. Therefore, the system only 

>supports wake by using the USB for the S1 system power state. If there is no USB 

>device that is armed for wake from a system power state, the system enters the S3 

>system power state during standby."

>

>Simply disable your USB devices from allowing the computer to return from standby.

>

>

> 

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Thanks Peter, I tried unchecking the power mgmt on all USB devices...but the fan kept running just the same. But after selecting the Minimal Power Management setting it shut down! So the fan stops running, but I will unfortunately have to control standby manually, as opposed to timed.


On Thursday, February 16, 2006 at 10:26 pm, Peter wrote:
>The only method that enabled my new Dell desktop to enter the S3 state (no fans running)
>using the timer in Windows XP power options was to select "Minimal Power Management"
>
>
>

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hello!i have a similar problem in my desktop computer.whenever i press the standby key from my keyboard the system goes to standby mode.but whenever i resume it from that mode by pressing the same key again then the monitor doesnt turn on.when i choose the minimal power option then on resuming from standby the computer restarts. i have one device on usb that is mouse and i have that box unchecked in the power management option of mouse from device manager mouse properties 'allow this device to bring the computer out of standby'. but when i check that box then the fans keep running. plzzzzz tel me what to do.it has given me a headache. my pc config are pentium d 3.0ghz,1gb ram,windows xp professional sp2 thanx in advance.sanchit,india


On Friday, May 26, 2006 at 10:32 pm, Dan wrote:
>Thanks Peter, I tried unchecking the power mgmt on all USB devices...but the fan
>kept running just the same. But after selecting the Minimal Power Management setting
>it shut down! So the fan stops running, but I will unfortunately have to control
>standby manually, as opposed to timed.
>
>
>

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Nothing mentioned on this thread solved the problem for me. My BIOS is switched to Suspend To RAM, Minimal Power Management is selected, the USB mouse and keyboard are turned to "Not Allow...", tried using different user accounts and VooDoo... and my fans are still turning. This is rediculous, there's got to be a solution for all of this...

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OK, I've found what works for me. I downloaded a small utility program called Sleeper (http://www.passmark.com/products/sleeper.htm) that forces my PC to go into S3 state (Stand By mode with all fans off). Just make sure when you configure it, you select "Force Into Selected State" and "Sleep Forever" (untill user wake up) options. Unless you want for your PC to wake up after a certain amount of time. After you run this program once you won't need to access it anymore to go into Stand By mode - your regular Windows option will start working like it should. Oh, and the USB mouse and keyboard will still have to be unchecked from "Allow to wake up" option (actually the Sleeper will give you an error message prompting you to do that if you don't). OK, one problem solved, more to go :) Thank you Bill Gates for making my life so interesting!

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Dimitri See my post Standby Problem involved bad Synaptics Driver


On Monday, July 17, 2006 at 9:28 pm, Dimitri wrote:
>Nothing mentioned on this thread solved the problem for me. My BIOS is switched to
>Suspend To RAM, Minimal Power Management is selected, the USB mouse and keyboard
>are turned to "Not Allow...", tried using different user accounts and VooDoo... and
>my fans are still turning. This is rediculous, there's got to be a solution for all
>of this...

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I've carefully read through this interesting post - having the same problem, obviously 
- and my problem may sound silly, but I don't get a "Power Management" tab on the 
device properties of my mouse or keyboard. How come?







On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 7:24 am, Dave wrote:

>This thread has been going on for years, but I just found it, and it helped me.

>

>I have a Dell Inspiron 5160. Everything was woking fine until I added, on the same 

>day, a Logitech MX610 wireless mouse and a Linksys wireless router. After I added 

>those, my laptop would not go to standby when I shut the top nor would the fan turn 

>off. I sent seven to eight hours trying to the fix the problem. I was on the phone 

>with my local ISP, Dell, and Linksys. I never suspected the mouse. Each person said 

>it was someone else's problem. Dell wanted me to wipe my hard drive and start from 

>scratch! How may hours would that take! So I kept playing around with my settings 

>and searching the web. I found this discussion link and did the following.

>

>I have Windows XP. I went to:

>

>Start > Control Panel > Mouse > Hardware (tab) and highlighted Logitech Mouse > 
Properties 

>> Power Management (tab) > de-selected "Allow this device to bring the computer 
out 

>of standby." I then shut my computer down for the night (because I had been using 

>it all day and it was hot - even with the fan running). Then next day all was back 

>to normal!

>

>Thanks!

>

>Dave 

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Monday, April 21, 2003 at 11:24 pm Posted by Aaron (1 messages posted) I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB. Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" is not checked. Any USB device that is set up to bring the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to the usb root hub for the device. Maybe that helps some of you? i would have tried looking at the bios settings first even though i have thought of trying to configure the usb devices first. but then it really shows that it's good to read the manual first before doing anything, real good that i read everything here before doing anything. because trying to do anything without reading first cos you think it will save you time, will only waste you more time. =) thanks aaron

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This worked for me too, when nothing else did.


On Thursday, February 16, 2006 at 10:26 pm, Peter wrote:
>The only method that enabled my new Dell desktop to enter the S3 state (no fans running)
>using the timer in Windows XP power options was to select "Minimal Power Management"

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yep my standby had fans running too.. it was the keyboard and mouse.. i knew it too.. because thats when the problems started.. i thought it was in the logitech drivers but never found a setting for standby. i would have never looked in the device manager lol.. thx guys..

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I have met the same situation, then found a solution: using the following registry entry, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usb "USBBIOSx"=DWORD:00000000 refer to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841858/en?spid=1173&sid=884


On Saturday, April 1, 2006 at 2:14 am, Nr.one wrote:
>I have had some problems regarding "Standby Fans on" and "HID Keyboard device is
>preventing the machine from entering standby".
>
>1) First I had the "HID keyboard" problem but this was solve by reinstalling WinXP
>(ONLY WinXP, NOT a single program).
>
>2) Then the "Fans on" problem began and I began searching the net for a solution.
>Have tried the "Power Sheme Option" without a result. As you state in the last post,
>S3 state CANNOT be used if you have enable an USB device and configured it with "Allow
>this device to bring the computer out of standby".
>
>3) My problem is just that I NEED to have S3 and an USB-device working together because
>of the following two reasons:
>
> a) My setup is a HTPC which has not a powerbutton in front, only my keyboard and
>mouse may resume from it.
>
> b) My HTPC uses a Pentium M processor together with a CT479 Adapter. Its a 100x16
>= 1600Mhz processor but IF I set the HTPC in standby without checking the "Allow
>this device to bring..." on the USB keyboard then the HTPC will only resume from
>standby (by pressen the powerbutton) with a much lower multiplier (100x6 =600Mhz).
>The strange thing is just that this problem doesn't happen when I check the "Allow
>this device".
>
>Have found out that when I install WinXP, as state earlier the ONLY problem is the
>fans. Bios is set to:
>
>Suspend mode: [Auto]
>Repost video on S3 resume: [No]
>ACPI 2.0 Support: [No]
>ACPI APIC Support: [Yes]
>
>If I then change my bios to this:
>
>Suspend mode: [S3]
>Repost video on S3 resume: [No]
>ACPI 2.0 Support: [Yes]
>ACPI APIC Support: [Yes]
>
>Then the problem with "HID Keyboard device is preventing the machine from entering
>standby" begins and it will NOT be fixable by just change it back. You simple need
>to reinstall WinXP from the begining.
>
>
>As you can read from above it is a very crytic situation and I have now spend about
>40-50 hours over the last 1?month searching for a solution without any result. This
>thread was far the most best thread I have found so I decided to post here and see
>what comes.
>
>Looking forward to receive some responds...
>
>
>

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I have had an HP computer for 1 year, just recently I had this problem for no reason that I know of. This solution worked for me I am using WIN XP media centre edition, Logitech MX revolution mouse and their bluetooth keyboard. I disabled the two bluetooth mice in control panel - mouse, just leaving the cordless mouse. Then followed the instructions bekow to diable the bring out of standby feature


On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 7:24 am, Dave wrote:
>This thread has been going on for years, but I just found it, and it helped me.
>
>I have a Dell Inspiron 5160. Everything was woking fine until I added, on the same
>day, a Logitech MX610 wireless mouse and a Linksys wireless router. After I added
>those, my laptop would not go to standby when I shut the top nor would the fan turn
>off. I sent seven to eight hours trying to the fix the problem. I was on the phone
>with my local ISP, Dell, and Linksys. I never suspected the mouse. Each person said
>it was someone else's problem. Dell wanted me to wipe my hard drive and start from
>scratch! How may hours would that take! So I kept playing around with my settings
>and searching the web. I found this discussion link and did the following.
>
>I have Windows XP. I went to:
>
>Start > Control Panel > Mouse > Hardware (tab) and highlighted Logitech Mouse > Properties
>> Power Management (tab) > de-selected "Allow this device to bring the computer out
>of standby." I then shut my computer down for the night (because I had been using
>it all day and it was hot - even with the fan running). Then next day all was back
>to normal!
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave

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I know this thread is extremely old, but it helped me just the same. I'm running xp, so I don't know if vista will be the same. My other machine was an easy fix (setting the mouse's power options to "do not allow this device to bring out of standby"), but my other computer refused to go into s3 sleep mode no matter how many different things I tried. I changed the USB device power settings, I set the bios to S3 mode, I altered the registry, I altered the power settings to minimal power settings, yet none of these options silenced the drone of the fans. It seems that if you install Windows without S3 enabled, it will not automatically set it as the default no matter which common settings you tinker with. Finally, I stumbled upon the link http://www.jsifaq.com/SF/Tips/Tip.aspx?id=10770, which will lead you to the program dumppo.exe. This little DOS program will force your comp. to use S3 sleep mode. You'll need a little experience with DOS to run it, but it's easy for the most part. Just make sure the directory matches the directory you've saved dumppo.exe into and type the command in the instructions. Let me know if this saves anyone some time! Time is all you have on earth, and spending it on Windows is more painful than prison!


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:
>
>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the fans
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000

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Lance, you are the man... tried everything in this (very long) thread but your solution helped me. I looked for hours and DUMPPO.EXE did it. Thank you very very very much.


On Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 4:14 pm, Lance wrote:
>I know this thread is extremely old, but it helped me just the same. I'm running
>xp, so I don't know if vista will be the same. My other machine was an easy fix
>(setting the mouse's power options to "do not allow this device to bring out of standby"),
>but my other computer refused to go into s3 sleep mode no matter how many different
>things I tried. I changed the USB device power settings, I set the bios to S3 mode,
>I altered the registry, I altered the power settings to minimal power settings, yet
>none of these options silenced the drone of the fans. It seems that if you install
>Windows without S3 enabled, it will not automatically set it as the default no matter
>which common settings you tinker with. Finally, I stumbled upon the link http://www.jsifaq.com/SF/Tips/Tip.aspx?id=10770,
>which will lead you to the program dumppo.exe. This little DOS program will force
>your comp. to use S3 sleep mode. You'll need a little experience with DOS to run
>it, but it's easy for the most part. Just make sure the directory matches the directory
>you've saved dumppo.exe into and type the command in the instructions. Let me know
>if this saves anyone some time! Time is all you have on earth, and spending it on
>Windows is more painful than prison!
>
>
>
>
>

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Hello: This is one of the longest running forum posts I have ever seen with replies going back to 2002. Anyways over the past day I got a Logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse and after the install all was working fine until I tried to put my computer into S3 standby mode and my computer would go into into standby but the fans would remain running. Very annoying to someone who hates the sound of wizzing computer fans. This post helped a lot in pointing me in right direction. Anyways one of the earlier posts mentioned going into "device manager" and selecting all the USB devices that have a power management setting and unclicking the "allow this device to bring computer out of standby" selection box (mainly the keyboard and mouse).... I tried this first and it did not work....the computer would go into standby mode and the fans would still stay on... Frustrated I then tried another earlier posts suggestions to try the Microsoft USB patch. See this website for details: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841858/en?spid=1173&sid=884 This kinda of worked....the patch sort of forces all the USB ports to stop drawing power no matter what....I did manage to get my computer INTO S3 standby mode....but when I tried to get out of standby mode both my bluetooth keyboard and mouse would not reconnect with the bluetooth receiver....so this solution did not work for me either..... So what did finally worked for me? Well, somewhere either on this post or another website I read that I had to turn off the "allow this device to take the computer out of standby mode" in the keyboard and mouse settings....and that did it.....what I had to do was go into the keyboard control panel applet and the mouse control panel applet (both located in Windows Control Panel)...select the "bluetooth tab" and buried in there was the little check box with "allow this device to take the computer out of standby"...this box was checked so I unchecked it....then I went into "device manager" and made sure the "allow this device to take the computer out of standby" was unchecked for all the usb devices that had the option (again mainly the keyboard and mouse).....I then rebooted the system and finally I could put my computer into S3 standby mode and take it out of S3 standby mode while using my bluetooth keyboard....the only trade off is I have to use my computers power button to take me out of standby...no big deal really.... So to summarize if you have a bluetooth keyboard and/or mouse make sure the "allow device to take computer out of standby" box is unchecked in both the "device manager" and in the mouse control panel and the keyboard control panel in Windows control panel.... Hope this helps future people who may come across this problem.... tx, mjw2005


On Sunday, November 18, 2007 at 12:59 pm, Norbert wrote:
>Lance, you are the man... tried everything in this (very long) thread but your solution
>helped me. I looked for hours and DUMPPO.EXE did it. Thank you very very very much.
>
>
>

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Okay, I'll offer what I found while getting this to work for me.

Bought a new USB wired keyboard that has suspend button. I can get the computer to 
sleep mode but fan stays on. Same problem as everyone else.

Here was my solution

- I have USB keyboard and mouse. I unchecked the "allow this device to bring computer 
out of standby" box in both devices and bingo. Now keyboard suspend button get the 
computer to sleep with fan off.

Now I have the next problem. Can't wake up computer from keyboard. Have to use the 
button on front of the chassis (low on the ground) Kinda undesirable. So the solution 
to this is

- follow the Microsoft directions at

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841858/en?spid=1173&sid=884

Once this was done, my usb keyboard successfully wakes up the machine and no fan 
noise while in suspend mode.

However, I could not enter the value for USBBIOSx by hand as my registry didn't even 
have usb under services. After tracking down the motherboard manufacturer's support 
site and downloaded/ran their usbS3 patch I got usb under services and both the USBBIOSx 
and USBBIOSHacks entries set to 0x0. After a reboot, everything worked as desired.

Good luck to whoever is dealing with this issue.

PS. My machine is a circa 2003 SONY VAIO PCV-RS430G. Moetherboard is ASUS P4SDX. 
Keyboard was a BTC 6100C.

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I probably found the root cause. It's all about the registry in the machine.

1. Start -> run -> type "regedit"

2. find the power policy you are using now. \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\PowerCfg\CurrentPowerPolicy <- this value is the current setting of the power policy (Ex:2)

3. Modify \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\PowerCfg\CurrentPowerPolicy\PowerPolicies\2\Policies (Follow the example above)

4. Modify the value of position 0028 and 0032 to 04

Hope this is help

On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:
>
>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the fans
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000

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Wow, what an amazing post! I have a HP P4 3.2GHz machine that I recently upgraded with some new hardware and a completely clean Win XP install. A week or so back I noticed that when the machine went into Standby the fans were still running, something I hadn't been aware of before, but just put it down to the unit needing to cool down or something, or maybe because of the time and effort I'd put into the rebuild I was just more observant. Anyway, once I'd become aware of it, it really started to bug me, and I was SURE it hadn't been like that before! So I started digging around for info, learning about the various Standby states, Registry settings, hacks etc... and when I found this discussion late last night, USB device power settings and the way Microsoft likes to do things! I have a cordless desktop, and had taken the keyboard and trackball sensors off their PS2 adapters and plugged them directly into the USB ports on the back of the case, running everything else through a new Hub. Sure enough, when I looked in Device Manager, they were checked to allow wake-up from Standby! So, I unchecked the keyboard, put the trackball back on its PS2 adapter, and when I go into Standby... SILENCE, with no fans running (and I can obviously wake from Standby with the trackball). What a ridiculously SIMPLE solution to a problem that had been bugging the crap out of me!!! :) Thanks guys for a great post!

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THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! I simply chose a preset power profile from the power options in Control Panel, and wonders above wonders, my fans switch off in stand-by mode. (I chose "Minimal Power Management" and then changed my display and hard-drive timeouts to what they were.)


On Monday, January 6, 2003 at 3:10 am, Jörg Meyer wrote:
>I've had the same problems when migrating from Win2K to WinXp. The solution was as
>follows:
>
>I reinstalled WinXP over my original installation, thus preserving all my user specific
>settings. Then I found that if i use a newly created private energy profile (in energy
>options) the problem with the runnig fans at CPU und power supply remained.
>
>But when I used a predefined profile (i.e. "minimized battery consumption" translated
>from german "minimale Batterieinanspruchnahme") standby mode was entered correctly
>and all fans were switched off.
>
>hope this will help someone ... Jörg
>
>

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>I recently had this problem when I installed a new mouse and keyboard that used USB.
>Go into the device manager properties for your mouse and keyboard if they are USB
>and go into the power management section and verify that "Allow this device to bring
>the computer out of standby" is not checked. Any USB device that is set up to bring
>the computer out of standby needs a power source to operate, so the computer leaves
>the power supply in the normal mode, keeping the fans on, and supplying power to
>the usb root hub for the device. Maybe that helps some of you?
>
>
> Oh my! We have a winner! You nailed it fare and square Aaron! Yes, for me the culprit is a freshly installed Logitech Setpoint 4.40 mouse/pointer management software which did exactly what you described and caused no end to frustration. So, to recap for all concerned, to turn off this nasty setting no matter which darn software turned it on behind your back go to Control Panel->Mouse->Hardware tab then select the mouse listed there and click on properties. When the properties window opens go to the 'Power Management' tab and uncheck 'Allow this device to bring the comp out of standby'. That should do it, and fans should become silent once again. P.S. For all you tech-savvy you can get in a few steps less to the 'Power Management' tab if you know how to locate your mouse in the device manager.

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I developed exactly the same problem as originally described but from upgrading XP-SP2 to XP-SP3. Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Dan


On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 12:41 pm, Mike Poremba wrote:
>
>When I was using Win2000, standby worked fine. Now I've upgraded to XP, and the fans
>still run while I'm in standby. I've examined all the "Power Management" tabs and
>disabled all the checkboxes labeled "Allow this device to bring the computer out
>of standby".
>
>Any ideas about what other settings to adjust, or how to diagnose which device is
>keeping the system from shutting down completely?
>
>Hardware: Dell Workstation 330, nvidia GeForce 2, USB keyboard and mouse.
>Software: Win XP, upgraded from Win2000

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Oops, neglected to mention that hybernation works. In summary: I upgraded from XP-SP2 to XP-SP3 When attempting STANDBY monitor goes off but fans continue running. When tried HYBERNATE instead both the monitor and fans go off. Any suggestions? Thank you, Dan

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Problem resolved! At least in my case the culprit was the mouse, I UNchecked "allow the mouse to wake the computer" and both screen and pc go off. Hope this help to others. Greetings, Dan

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Hi all, My problem is the opposite of what is being talked about here. The PC in question is a Dell Dimension 8200, BIOS A09. I want my PC to remain on - what happens, regardless of my Windows Power Scheme settings, is that if I leave my PC on for a few hours, the screen is of course black and when I hit the space bar or another key, the PC begins a reboot sequence. I noticed that in the BIOS there are S1 and S3 Suspend mode settings, but no OFF setting. How can I disable the Suspend mode entirely? I wish to use logmein and if the machine hits a reboot state every so often, it kind of blows away my plans to use it remotely. thanks in advance, earl _________


On Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 4:31 pm, Dan wrote:
>Problem resolved! At least in my case the culprit was the mouse, I UNchecked "allow
>the mouse to wake the computer" and both screen and pc go off.
>
>Hope this help to others.
>Greetings,
>Dan

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