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Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:15 pm Posted by Mac McDaniel
(4 messages posted)
I've been unsuccessful in trying to set up a two PC home network between a new HP
Pavilion 780N (WIN XP, 512MB RAM, 100 GB HD, pre-installed 10/100 NIC, using modem
connection to internet) as the host, and a Dell Dimension 4100 (WIN98SE, 512MB RAM,
75GB HD, LinkSys 10/100 NIC installed by me) as the client. I'm using the RJ45 cables
to a four port hub between the two computers, and I've followed the directions I
found on this site on how to set up the ICS, the different settings via the properties
menus for IP, gateway, DNS, etc. I checked out some of the info in several books
(to include the ones put out by Annoyances), but didn't see any answers to this particular
problem. I've given the computers different names, the workgroup is the same name,
and I can't think of anything else. I would appreciate any feedback or assistance
on this.
Mac
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:37 pm Posted by Klump
(9 messages posted)
hi mac
are you have the same problem that I have. if so please email me if you get it working.
on page 2 see
window98 clients can't access the internet on windows xp host (klump: Sunday, May
12, 2002)
On Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:15 pm, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>I've been unsuccessful in trying to set up a two PC home network between a new HP
>Pavilion 780N (WIN XP, 512MB RAM, 100 GB HD, pre-installed 10/100 NIC, using modem
>connection to internet) as the host, and a Dell Dimension 4100 (WIN98SE, 512MB RAM,
>75GB HD, LinkSys 10/100 NIC installed by me) as the client. I'm using the RJ45
cables
>to a four port hub between the two computers, and I've followed the directions I
>found on this site on how to set up the ICS, the different settings via the properties
>menus for IP, gateway, DNS, etc. I checked out some of the info in several books
>(to include the ones put out by Annoyances), but didn't see any answers to this
particular
>problem. I've given the computers different names, the workgroup is the same name,
>and I can't think of anything else. I would appreciate any feedback or assistance
>on this.
>
>Mac
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 8:57 pm Posted by Psyclone
(2 messages posted)
G'day,
I've had n problems getting the internet to share over XP and 98, if the 98 is a
clean install and has never had any internet settings in it. What you can do then
is click on IE the first time and say you want to connect through a LAN and it will
all work fine as far as internet goes.
You could also make sure you have the folowing protocols on both computers.
TCP/IP (Defualted on windows install)
IPX/SPX
NetBeui
On Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:15 pm, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>I've been unsuccessful in trying to set up a two PC home network between a new HP
>Pavilion 780N (WIN XP, 512MB RAM, 100 GB HD, pre-installed 10/100 NIC, using modem
>connection to internet) as the host, and a Dell Dimension 4100 (WIN98SE, 512MB RAM,
>75GB HD, LinkSys 10/100 NIC installed by me) as the client. I'm using the RJ45
cables
>to a four port hub between the two computers, and I've followed the directions I
>found on this site on how to set up the ICS, the different settings via the properties
>menus for IP, gateway, DNS, etc. I checked out some of the info in several books
>(to include the ones put out by Annoyances), but didn't see any answers to this
particular
>problem. I've given the computers different names, the workgroup is the same name,
>and I can't think of anything else. I would appreciate any feedback or assistance
>on this.
>
>Mac
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 12:18 am Posted by sasha
(2 messages posted)
hello mac, did you try this site?? : www.analogx.com
they have a lot of softs free for you.... it surely will help!! esp. proxyi program...
;-)
On Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:15 pm, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>I've been unsuccessful in trying to set up a two PC home network between a new HP
>Pavilion 780N (WIN XP, 512MB RAM, 100 GB HD, pre-installed 10/100 NIC, using modem
>connection to internet) as the host, and a Dell Dimension 4100 (WIN98SE, 512MB RAM,
>75GB HD, LinkSys 10/100 NIC installed by me) as the client. I'm using the RJ45
cables
>to a four port hub between the two computers, and I've followed the directions I
>found on this site on how to set up the ICS, the different settings via the properties
>menus for IP, gateway, DNS, etc. I checked out some of the info in several books
>(to include the ones put out by Annoyances), but didn't see any answers to this
particular
>problem. I've given the computers different names, the workgroup is the same name,
>and I can't think of anything else. I would appreciate any feedback or assistance
>on this.
>
>Mac
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 6:14 am Posted by jim
(159 messages posted)
I'm not sure what means you used to set up your network, but the simplest for a novice
is to use is the network setup wizard. The only protocol that you need for the interoperability
of your network is TCPIP. IPX is used to communicate with Novell Networks and Netbeiu
is a simplistic protocol that can communicate between the internal resources but
has nothing to do with external communications to the Internet. TCPIP will do it
all.
An advantage to using the Network Setup Wizard is that, it will show you a picture
of how your internal topology should be setup for the various options and at the
end op the process it can write out to floppy the "right stuff" to be setup on your
clients.
Of importance is the concepts of IP addresses, subnet masks, gateways, and DNS.
Your ISP generally sets this stuff up using DHCP everytime you log in. Some use
static values, but most don't. On your internal side you must provide the same services.
One way is to use static values, the other is to use DHCP, the other is to set it
up statically.
Try the resources XP provided, I think it will work for you. The first choice in
the wizard is the one that I think applies to you.
On Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:15 pm, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>I've been unsuccessful in trying to set up a two PC home network between a new HP
>Pavilion 780N (WIN XP, 512MB RAM, 100 GB HD, pre-installed 10/100 NIC, using modem
>connection to internet) as the host, and a Dell Dimension 4100 (WIN98SE, 512MB RAM,
>75GB HD, LinkSys 10/100 NIC installed by me) as the client. I'm using the RJ45
cables
>to a four port hub between the two computers, and I've followed the directions I
>found on this site on how to set up the ICS, the different settings via the properties
>menus for IP, gateway, DNS, etc. I checked out some of the info in several books
>(to include the ones put out by Annoyances), but didn't see any answers to this
particular
>problem. I've given the computers different names, the workgroup is the same name,
>and I can't think of anything else. I would appreciate any feedback or assistance
>on this.
>
>Mac
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 9:29 am Posted by Mac McDaniel
(4 messages posted)
To all who have responded so far: I've tried the XP Network Setup Wizard several
times, but at the last screen, I get an error message to the effect that it can't
complete the setup, try manual setup. I've confirmed that the Host's (HP, WinXP)
IP, Gateway, DNS settings are in accordance with the settings found at this site,
MS site, etc; I'm connected to the internet before I begin the Wizard; both PCs are
turned on, ICS is "on" on the HP; printer is turned on; its hooked to the Client
PC (Dell, Win98SE). About the only thing I haven't done, is manually enter IP addresses
for the PCs. If anyone has any other suggestions other than the ones previously
posted, which didn't fix the problem, I'd love to hear them!
Thanks,
Mac
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Sunday, June 30, 2002 at 12:58 am Posted by DS
(1 messages posted)
Hmmm, Cannot complete the wizard? Are you logged on an account with adminstrator
access? Maybe you need to reinstall your XP network components or reinstall XP.
R U SURE your chosing the right options? NO DOMAIN, make same workgroup as the other
computer, also you should have the TCP/IP protocals installed on each computer and
LAN manager setttings should not be off on each computer. You need an account made
on the XP computer that you would log on to with the 98 computer. AND your tcp/ip
settings should be static if you do not have an DHCP server for your LAN (DHCP server
for ISP do not count), I take it you don't because your using ICS. Meaning do not
use APIPA in XP and do not use "find ip address automatically" in 98.
Don
On Monday, May 13, 2002 at 9:29 am, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>To all who have responded so far: I've tried the XP Network Setup Wizard several
>times, but at the last screen, I get an error message to the effect that it can't
>complete the setup, try manual setup. I've confirmed that the Host's (HP, WinXP)
>IP, Gateway, DNS settings are in accordance with the settings found at this site,
>MS site, etc; I'm connected to the internet before I begin the Wizard; both PCs
are
>turned on, ICS is "on" on the HP; printer is turned on; its hooked to the Client
>PC (Dell, Win98SE). About the only thing I haven't done, is manually enter IP addresses
>for the PCs. If anyone has any other suggestions other than the ones previously
>posted, which didn't fix the problem, I'd love to hear them!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mac
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Sunday, June 30, 2002 at 8:55 am Posted by Mac McDaniel
(4 messages posted)
Don and all others who answered my request for help,
Thanks for your efforts; using the information at this site, http://www.sysopt.com/articles/icsproxy/index.html
and the helpful hints from the forum members, I was finally able to set up a home
network and share internet connectivity.
Thanks!
Mac
On Sunday, June 30, 2002 at 12:58 am, DS wrote:
>Hmmm, Cannot complete the wizard? Are you logged on an account with adminstrator
>access? Maybe you need to reinstall your XP network components or reinstall XP.
> R U SURE your chosing the right options? NO DOMAIN, make same workgroup as the
other
>computer, also you should have the TCP/IP protocals installed on each computer and
>LAN manager setttings should not be off on each computer. You need an account made
>on the XP computer that you would log on to with the 98 computer. AND your tcp/ip
>settings should be static if you do not have an DHCP server for your LAN (DHCP server
>for ISP do not count), I take it you don't because your using ICS. Meaning do not
>use APIPA in XP and do not use "find ip address automatically" in 98.
>Don
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 7:41 pm Posted by JACK
(1 messages posted)
I'm going to check out sysopt.com, havin the same troubles. Did your networking function,
but not ICS. I've tried ICS c WINXP host and 98SE client. I can access LAN, files
on each computer. But No ICS on the 98SE machine. The 98SE machine even says it
has connection to internet but no data will pass beyond the XP host. I then did a
clean XP install on the 98SE client and still had the same situation, filing sharing
availble no ICS even tough it shows connected. Manually configed machine IP and ran
the wizards several times. A real bitchy problem. Going to put the client back to
98SE for several reasons and will try some of the suggestions and sites listed here.
I'm thinking of reinstalling the XP host as I don't use IE as my deafault browser.
As mentioned earlier IE can be key to connectin on the 98SE machine and probably
the XP host as well.
On Sunday, June 30, 2002 at 8:55 am, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>Don and all others who answered my request for help,
>
>Thanks for your efforts; using the information at this site, http://www.sysopt.com/articles/icsproxy/index.html
>and the helpful hints from the forum members, I was finally able to set up a home
>network and share internet connectivity.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mac
>
>
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im unable to do anything because a window pops up saying i dont have adminstrator rights
Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 8:06 am Posted by chester smith
(1 messages posted)
On Monday, May 13, 2002 at 9:29 am, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>To all who have responded so far: I've tried the XP Network Setup Wizard several
>times, but at the last screen, I get an error message to the effect that it can't
>complete the setup, try manual setup. I've confirmed that the Host's (HP, WinXP)
>IP, Gateway, DNS settings are in accordance with the settings found at this site,
>MS site, etc; I'm connected to the internet before I begin the Wizard; both PCs
are
>turned on, ICS is "on" on the HP; printer is turned on; its hooked to the Client
>PC (Dell, Win98SE). About the only thing I haven't done, is manually enter IP addresses
>for the PCs. If anyone has any other suggestions other than the ones previously
>posted, which didn't fix the problem, I'd love to hear them!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mac
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re: im unable to do anything because a window pops up saying i dont have adminstrator rights
Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 6:27 am Posted by Dan Colardeau
(3 messages posted)
I have upgraded form 98 to xp, the inital realeace of xp doesnt include any netbeui
support, i beleve service pack 1 does.
On Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 8:06 am, chester smith wrote:
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 3:57 pm Posted by Chayya
(1 messages posted)
I had the same problem and setup Winxp host, Win98se client.
The client could initiate the dial. And could file share with the host in both directions
fine... Pinging the host 192.168.0.1 even worked.... It just wouldn't transfer data
through. IE.
Then I unloaded ZoneAlarm on the host and it worked... So I'm going to re-install
ZA and make it aware that I want it to grant traffic to the client...
Hope that helps someone.
On Sunday, June 30, 2002 at 12:58 am, DS wrote:
>Hmmm, Cannot complete the wizard? Are you logged on an account with adminstrator
>access? Maybe you need to reinstall your XP network components or reinstall XP.
> R U SURE your chosing the right options? NO DOMAIN, make same workgroup as the
other
>computer, also you should have the TCP/IP protocals installed on each computer and
>LAN manager setttings should not be off on each computer. You need an account made
>on the XP computer that you would log on to with the 98 computer. AND your tcp/ip
>settings should be static if you do not have an DHCP server for your LAN (DHCP server
>for ISP do not count), I take it you don't because your using ICS. Meaning do not
>use APIPA in XP and do not use "find ip address automatically" in 98.
>Don
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Thursday, April 24, 2003 at 12:15 am Posted by Joe
(3 messages posted)
After having read the replies to Mac and Ckayya's experience, I cannot see anyone
who has been able to offer information which has resulted in actually FIXING the
ICS XP Gateway <-->98SE Client (when the problem has occurred) other than by setting
up the gateway as a proxy server (with undesirable application restrictions eg ICQ
on Client) or in Chayya's case using Zone Alarm which seems to have "forced"/unblocked?
the internal TCP/IP comms somehow. I have tried unsuccesfully for weeks to get ICS
to work on XP Gateway/Server <--> 98SE client. Strange thing is that the client
can ping any external site by number or name - so TCP/IP and DNS seem not to be a
problem. BUT NO CLIENT APPLICATION WILL ACCESS EXTERNAL INTERNET SITES - Not IE6,
not OE6, not Cuteftp, not Nortons Live Update, not ICQ registration, ... nothing.
I studied various sites which suggested Registry HOT-KEY corrections, reloading
winsocks.dll, wsocks32.dll etc but each of the recitations were unclear whether they
were discussing the server or the client or for XP or 98SE. Most imprecise and confusing.
So haven't attempted those yet without other user confirmation of success. Anyone?
This problem is so frustrating especially for an old programmer like me. How does
this rubbish software get onto the market and get taken up by so many? HAS ANYONE
SOLVED THIS PROBLEM IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS OR MORE?
Joe
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 3:57 pm, Chayya wrote:
>I had the same problem and setup Winxp host, Win98se client.
>
>The client could initiate the dial. And could file share with the host in both directions
>fine... Pinging the host 192.168.0.1 even worked.... It just wouldn't transfer data
>through. IE.
>
>Then I unloaded ZoneAlarm on the host and it worked... So I'm going to re-install
>ZA and make it aware that I want it to grant traffic to the client...
>
>Hope that helps someone.
>
>
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re: im unable to do anything because a window pops up saying i dont have adminstrator rights
Thursday, April 24, 2003 at 12:44 am Posted by Joe
(3 messages posted)
Dan
Did you get ICS working between XP gateway and 98SE client? Was Netbeui essential?
Unlike others did you get it working without having to use a proxy or Zone Alarm?
I have wasted weeks on this issue and would appreciate your info.
Joe
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On Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 6:27 am, Dan Colardeau wrote:
>I have upgraded form 98 to xp, the inital realeace of xp doesnt include any netbeui
>support, i beleve service pack 1 does.
>
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Thursday, April 24, 2003 at 12:50 am Posted by Joe
(3 messages posted)
Yes to all ....
Has anyone solved ICS XP-gateway <--> 98SE-Client without recourse to setting up
a proxy (Mac) or installing Zone Alarm (Chayya)? If so, PLEASE post what you did
to get the Client working through ICS.
Joe
On Monday, May 13, 2002 at 9:29 am, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>To all who have responded so far: I've tried the XP Network Setup Wizard several
>times, but at the last screen, I get an error message to the effect that it can't
>complete the setup, try manual setup. I've confirmed that the Host's (HP, WinXP)
>IP, Gateway, DNS settings are in accordance with the settings found at this site,
>MS site, etc; I'm connected to the internet before I begin the Wizard; both PCs
are
>turned on, ICS is "on" on the HP; printer is turned on; its hooked to the Client
>PC (Dell, Win98SE). About the only thing I haven't done, is manually enter IP addresses
>for the PCs. If anyone has any other suggestions other than the ones previously
>posted, which didn't fix the problem, I'd love to hear them!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mac
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Saturday, May 24, 2003 at 8:11 am Posted by Dan Colardeau
(3 messages posted)
I never managed that, even tho i droped xp for a faster and more stable Windows 2000.
My other pc is on a dual boot between 2k and 98 and 2k will connect to the internet,
but 98 is a stupid queer and wont. Best soultuion is to go get windows 2000. even
tho we all know you use 98 cause you can de assimilate ie and windows with windows
98 lite.
:P
Sorry i cant help ya.
On Thursday, April 24, 2003 at 12:50 am, Joe wrote:
>Yes to all ....
>Has anyone solved ICS XP-gateway <--> 98SE-Client without recourse to setting up
>a proxy (Mac) or installing Zone Alarm (Chayya)? If so, PLEASE post what you did
>to get the Client working through ICS.
>Joe
>
>
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 1:41 pm Posted by Micael Brown
(3 messages posted)
Stop being so cheap and pay 40 bucks for a serviceman to come out and set it up for
you!
On Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:15 pm, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>I've been unsuccessful in trying to set up a two PC home network between a new HP
>Pavilion 780N (WIN XP, 512MB RAM, 100 GB HD, pre-installed 10/100 NIC, using modem
>connection to internet) as the host, and a Dell Dimension 4100 (WIN98SE, 512MB RAM,
>75GB HD, LinkSys 10/100 NIC installed by me) as the client. I'm using the RJ45
cables
>to a four port hub between the two computers, and I've followed the directions I
>found on this site on how to set up the ICS, the different settings via the properties
>menus for IP, gateway, DNS, etc. I checked out some of the info in several books
>(to include the ones put out by Annoyances), but didn't see any answers to this
particular
>problem. I've given the computers different names, the workgroup is the same name,
>and I can't think of anything else. I would appreciate any feedback or assistance
>on this.
>
>Mac
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Monday, June 16, 2003 at 4:27 am Posted by chris
(2 messages posted)
Hello,
Just a few useful things.
English is not my native language but I will try to explain.
First Windows was and will never be a os for setting up a gateway a router or even
the simpliest home network.
Asume:
Win xp as a gateway with a broadband connection and a win98 client.
First the Lan for filesharing and print.
That is just 1 minute to set up.
Set:
In tcp/ip
Xp lan card: ip:192.168.0.1
subnetmask goes automatic if you click 255.255.255.0
Netbios: check with tcp/ip
Left alla the other settings to deafault or blank.
Win98:
In tcp/ip
win98 lan card:ip:192.168.0.2
subnetmask:255.255.255.0
dns: 192.168.0.1
gateway: 192.168.0.1
For Ics you have no hope to set up.
Because windows are foolish.
The only way to do that is with the damned conection wizard. Then when promt take
the floppy provided and run the programm to win98.
There is no other choice to have ics with xp. That is why must be a network bridge,
the dhcp must be running and there is no way to assign a static ip adress to pcs
in your local network with xp as a gateway where is assigned by the foolish Bill
the 192.168.0.1 ip adress by the foolish network wizard.
And somthing to help you with a broadband connection with an ethernet card tha assined
a ip adress from your provider.
Windows xp have support for DSl PPPoE conection. Ouaaaaaaaaaou. But they forgot to
write a simple script to not trying to assign an ip adress to the ethernet tha is
usede by your dsl connection. That ends with a 3 minutes(my god) delay on star up
looking for an ip adress to assign in the lan ethernet while there is no need for
it. I have not see anything so foolish as that in my whole career.
So just put an ip adress in the lan that you use for your broadband conection if
you dont want to wait 3 minutes before windows realise tha there is no matter what
adress to assign in hte ethernet that used by a connection that gots ip adress from
your provider.
No matter what ip you provide the next time you boot you dont have to wait "a day"
before you establish your broadband connection that needs half second.
Good work bill continue entertaining us:)
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 1:41 pm, MajorBaldspot wrote:
>Stop being so cheap and pay 40 bucks for a serviceman to come out and set it up
for
>you!
>
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Monday, June 16, 2003 at 10:39 am Posted by Dan Colardeau
(3 messages posted)
Wow guys, uh sorry i didnt respond earlier, ive been busy. I never got Windows 2000
based gateways to accept windows 98 clients. But if i find a way to ill let you know,
cause my windows 98 system is no more. i got a new pc with windows 2000 cause i built
it and i hate XP
On Monday, June 16, 2003 at 4:27 am, chris wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>Just a few useful things.
>English is not my native language but I will try to explain.
>First Windows was and will never be a os for setting up a gateway a router or even
>the simpliest home network.
>
>Asume:
>Win xp as a gateway with a broadband connection and a win98 client.
>
>First the Lan for filesharing and print.
>That is just 1 minute to set up.
>Set:
>In tcp/ip
>Xp lan card: ip:192.168.0.1
>subnetmask goes automatic if you click 255.255.255.0
>Netbios: check with tcp/ip
>Left alla the other settings to deafault or blank.
>Win98:
>In tcp/ip
>win98 lan card:ip:192.168.0.2
>subnetmask:255.255.255.0
>dns: 192.168.0.1
>gateway: 192.168.0.1
>
>For Ics you have no hope to set up.
>Because windows are foolish.
>The only way to do that is with the damned conection wizard. Then when promt take
>the floppy provided and run the programm to win98.
>
>There is no other choice to have ics with xp. That is why must be a network bridge,
>the dhcp must be running and there is no way to assign a static ip adress to pcs
>in your local network with xp as a gateway where is assigned by the foolish Bill
>the 192.168.0.1 ip adress by the foolish network wizard.
>
>And somthing to help you with a broadband connection with an ethernet card tha assined
>a ip adress from your provider.
>
>Windows xp have support for DSl PPPoE conection. Ouaaaaaaaaaou. But they forgot
to
>write a simple script to not trying to assign an ip adress to the ethernet tha is
>usede by your dsl connection. That ends with a 3 minutes(my god) delay on star up
>looking for an ip adress to assign in the lan ethernet while there is no need for
>it. I have not see anything so foolish as that in my whole career.
>So just put an ip adress in the lan that you use for your broadband conection if
>you dont want to wait 3 minutes before windows realise tha there is no matter what
>adress to assign in hte ethernet that used by a connection that gots ip adress from
>your provider.
>No matter what ip you provide the next time you boot you dont have to wait "a day"
>before you establish your broadband connection that needs half second.
>
>Good work bill continue entertaining us:)
>
>
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Thursday, September 11, 2003 at 3:36 am Posted by Steen
(1 messages posted)
Hi After having tried many of the suggestions, I finally solved the problem.
You need to remove all protocols except: NetBEUI and TCP/IP in you XP machine. I
also remove some of the clients and for now I only use Microsoft network program
and File and print sharing.
After removing all the other things I had in my properties for LAN-connection I restarted
the XP computer and now all my 98-computers (3) can see my xp-computer - and also
the other way around.
Hope this will solve your problems.
Steen
On Monday, June 16, 2003 at 10:39 am, Dan Colardeau wrote:
>Wow guys, uh sorry i didnt respond earlier, ive been busy. I never got Windows 2000
>based gateways to accept windows 98 clients. But if i find a way to ill let you
know,
>cause my windows 98 system is no more. i got a new pc with windows 2000 cause i
built
>it and i hate XP
>
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 11:03 am Posted by FatherJohn
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I can't understand why everybody disqualifies windows for being unstable and hard
to get when networking, but for all your comments i can see either you are retarded
or do not look for info on pages about the subject. I did my network easily and sharing
connection is even easier, and when I had trouble it was because of my card, not
because of windows
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Thursday, October 30, 2003 at 6:37 am Posted by chris
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unstable and hard are too diferent things.
I said that windows are unstable and foolish and unsecure. I will not go into this
just make a search to google. Windows are rsponsible for the 80% for the viruses
just for a small example. If you compare windows networking with unix and even linux
is like trying to tell that your bike can be faster from a ferrari.
As for hard:
No it is very easy I agree. You can have xp in a home networking enviroment or even
an office in 5 minutes. But, dont forget that this will be acomplished in the way
microsoft thinks that is the right one. And that always leads to problems like to
have a home network that in the end becomes a network where all the world can read
your files assuming you have an internet conection.
Trying to solve this yes there is a way. But this part I assure you is very Hard
in windows.
And sorry but if you can not understand this just search your win pc, may be think
you are but perhaps your not the only one using it.
regards,
Chris
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 3:30 pm Posted by Tony
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I have been able to connect to the internet from my win98se machine through my winxp
machine. I had to use a proxy (AnalogX Proxy which is free) installed on the XP machine.
When you install the proxy software, read the readme that opens up at the end of
installation as it is full of useful info. On the WIN98 machine you must install
a gateway address (from your ISP. When you logon check the connection properties
for the server IP address that you are connected to.) The XP machine must have ICS
enabled and both machines must have private IP addresses and subnet masks assigned
to the internal connection. DHCP, DNS, & WINS must be disabled on the 98 machine
and also on the XP machine's NIC that connects to the client (98) machine. Good Luck!
:-)
On Thursday, April 24, 2003 at 12:50 am, Joe wrote:
>Yes to all ....
>Has anyone solved ICS XP-gateway <--> 98SE-Client without recourse to setting up
>a proxy (Mac) or installing Zone Alarm (Chayya)? If so, PLEASE post what you did
>to get the Client working through ICS.
>Joe
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re: Unable to set up home network between WinXP and WIN98SE PCs
Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 4:44 pm Posted by Laurene F. Quateman
(1 messages posted)
This morning I was connected to 2 very fine Microsoft assistants. Finally, the gentleman
went thru all of the possible reasons XP would not be effective trying to install
this program over Windows 98 on my HP Pavillion. There was a print-out that listed
many many reasons and my question is why didn't the sales person ask me to do this
test before I went thru the purchase and now have to return for a credit? Why have
disappointed customers who dream of this conversion only to be told that I need a
new computer!!!
I am returning the disks and want a full refund and should even ask for more for
all of the aggrevation this has caused. Many hours wasted. In time I will purchase
another computer in which your XP is included. However, now this 86 year old will
hang in with Windows 98 even though I am told I can no longer get any help on that
program as of February it will be considered obsolete. How about me -- Am I obsolete
as well? I have faith in Microsoft but is that an illusion? You never know how
long XP will be OK - right? I need all the days I can get and this is one that is
wasted - including mailing the disks back and perhaps waiting for a refund. Yeuk!
On Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 6:15 pm, Mac McDaniel wrote:
>I've been unsuccessful in trying to set up a two PC home network between a new HP
>Pavilion 780N (WIN XP, 512MB RAM, 100 GB HD, pre-installed 10/100 NIC, using modem
>connection to internet) as the host, and a Dell Dimension 4100 (WIN98SE, 512MB RAM,
>75GB HD, LinkSys 10/100 NIC installed by me) as the client. I'm using the RJ45
cables
>to a four port hub between the two computers, and I've followed the directions I
>found on this site on how to set up the ICS, the different settings via the properties
>menus for IP, gateway, DNS, etc. I checked out some of the info in several books
>(to include the ones put out by Annoyances), but didn't see any answers to this
particular
>problem. I've given the computers different names, the workgroup is the same name,
>and I can't think of anything else. I would appreciate any feedback or assistance
>on this.
>
>Mac
>
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