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re: missing files Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:42 am Posted by Another Mike (442 messages posted) Those INF's are Install Setup Files for various drivers. If all your peripherals are working, you should be OK. At worst I would think you would need to re-install a drive or two. Check the Device Manager to see if all is working. On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 6:23 pm Posted by Chris (6 messages posted) I was wondering the same of these files. I've installed XP w/ SP1 several times on a few systems and always get the same errors (for the exact same files as you mentioned...png, .inf, etc.). It doesn't hinder anything as far as devices.. all works fine really, so I dunno. My point is that you CAN skip them. Post if you find out more:) --Chris On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:42 am, Another Mike wrote: >Those INF's are Install Setup Files for various drivers. If all your peripherals >are working, you should be OK. At worst I would think you would need to re-install >a drive or two. Check the Device Manager to see if all is working. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, January 4, 2003 at 9:51 pm Posted by Frodo Baggins (1 messages posted) I am wondering how many of those that are experiencing these "bad" XP install files are using a legitimate copy? On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 6:23 pm, Chris Rowland wrote: >I was wondering the same of these files. I've installed XP w/ SP1 several times >on a few systems and always get the same errors (for the exact same files as you >mentioned...png, .inf, etc.). It doesn't hinder anything as far as devices.. all >works fine really, so I dunno. >My point is that you CAN skip them. >Post if you find out more:) >--Chris > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files (ans) Monday, January 13, 2003 at 10:28 am Posted by Tejas (2 messages posted) These files are really important.. if u ignore them.. u will not see the Quick launch toolbar properly... the windows media player will also give problems.. also the help from start menu will not work.. also MSCONFIG will not run .... i guess its becuase u are slipstreaming XP with SP1..... the above will occur if u install from DOS or from bootable.. but if u install XP on WIN ME or 98 then ther is no problem.. u can also reinstall second time. after installing it once.. to eliminate all the errors.. if any one gets a better solution please post it.. On Saturday, January 4, 2003 at 9:51 pm, Frodo Baggins wrote: >I am wondering how many of those that are experiencing these "bad" XP install files >are using a legitimate copy? > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files (ans) Monday, January 13, 2003 at 11:25 pm Posted by neo4s (1 messages posted) if u ignore them.. u will not see the Quick launch toolbar properly... the windows media player will also give problems.. also the help from start menu will not work.. also MSCONFIG will not run .... i guess its becuase u are slipstreaming XP with SP1..... the above will occur if u install from DOS or from bootable.. but if u install XP on WIN ME or 98 then ther is no problem.. u can also reinstall second time. after installing it once.. to eliminate all the errors.. Ive had this problem everytime i install xp. My old computer (3 years old) never had a problem with the missing files (didnt slipstream or install service pack), but my new computer is having trouble. This could be related to the missing files, but im also working with some drivers that could be creating the problems. Im not slipstreaming, but i install service pack right after XP. I always skip the files - nothing else you can do. Explorer shuts down at random times. When XP boots I sometimes have some weird lines in the task bar and i quickly get en error, explorer must shut down, then XP runs ok after that. Ive also had media player lock up once. msconfig works fine, havnt tried help from the start menu. I might be using a copied XP pro corporate version CD. It never asks me to regester ;-) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, May 17, 2003 at 5:52 am Posted by Dave (1 messages posted) I just built a 2.4 GHz computer and I've had to reinstall Windows XP 14 times because it keeps losing the config.sys file after the computer reboots for software installations. I am not sure what's going on, but I think it may have something to do with the missing files you spoke of. I'm trying to find someone who may have had a similar experience with Win XP and found a way to fix it. If you know about this problem, please post your fix. ~Dave. On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 5:02 am Posted by TRicK [BZ] (1 messages posted) On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's Sorry for my bad English (i'm russian:) I have same problem when i burning bootable CD with Nero. How i think it's happened because DOS not understand symbols "-" and "~" in this files. To solve this trouble u need to check in tab "ISO" under "character set" DOS (not ISO 9960!!!) and all must be ok. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Wednesday, May 28, 2003 at 8:12 am Posted by ekoo (1 messages posted) cyclad-z.inf cyclad-y.inf headsp~1.wmz minipl~1.wmz utopia~1.wav utopia~2.wav utopia~3.wav utopia~4.wav sv-262e1.png sv-262e3.png sv-262e4.pn those file were missing ...when I use cr-r or rw by cdbootable installation,but I can find them in windows. If you know about this problem EML me ..my English ... On Saturday, May 17, 2003 at 5:52 am, Dave wrote: >I just built a 2.4 GHz computer and I've had to reinstall Windows XP 14 times because >it keeps losing the config.sys file after the computer reboots for software installations. >I am not sure what's going on, but I think it may have something to do with the missing >files you spoke of. I'm trying to find someone who may have had a similar experience >with Win XP and found a way to fix it. If you know about this problem, please post >your fix. ~Dave. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Thursday, June 5, 2003 at 12:31 pm Posted by perez (1 messages posted) USE DOS IN PLACE OF ISO9660 when you burn your CD the 14 files are no more missing Have a nice day Perez luis On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Wednesday, July 2, 2003 at 9:04 am Posted by Fabrice Poltoratzky (1 messages posted) Very Helpfull info !!! Thanks a lot... On Thursday, June 5, 2003 at 12:31 pm, perez wrote: >USE DOS IN PLACE OF ISO9660 when you burn your CD > >the 14 files are no more missing > >Have a nice day >Perez luis > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 8:14 am Posted by charles (1 messages posted) If you do that then any lonf filesnames you have extra on the cd wont work. Is there a nother option? On Wednesday, July 2, 2003 at 9:04 am, Fabrice Poltoratzky wrote: >Very Helpfull info !!! Thanks a lot... > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Tuesday, July 29, 2003 at 12:35 pm Posted by Breino (1 messages posted) Thanks for a great tip! ISO 9660 and DOS are the character sets used and have nothing to do with how much there can be characters in file names. For example '@' can have a value of 43 in one character set and 54 in another. ISO Level 1 is 8+3, ISO Level 2 is 31 and Joliet is 64 characters max in file and directory names. Normally you burn with ISO Level 1 (for DOS) and Joliet (for Windows) on. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 1:23 am Posted by matthew ford (1 messages posted) wow that worked great thanks so much! by the way all the people that have this trouble are using a pirated version of windows xp because microsoft burns the cd in bulk in dos encoding..when we download an .EXE extractor of the cd and burn it, it uses the iso format.. but if you have downloaded a .iso of the xp cd and burn it, it will work because its an identical copy :D [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files (ans) Monday, August 18, 2003 at 12:15 pm Posted by Bobby (2 messages posted) To the guy that wrote this - i downloaded win xp recently from kazaa and the guy there said that it can't find the file you were talking about - cyclad-z.inf. But he said that u gotta continue with the installation and don't bother because it works even without that file. So i don't don't. I gotta install the win XP and see for myself. Till then. ;) On Monday, January 13, 2003 at 10:28 am, Tejas Shah wrote: >These files are really important.. if u ignore them.. u will not see the Quick launch >toolbar properly... the windows media player will also give problems.. also the help >from start menu will not work.. also MSCONFIG will not run .... i guess its becuase >u are slipstreaming XP with SP1..... the above will occur if u install from DOS >or from bootable.. but if u install XP on WIN ME or 98 then ther is no problem.. >u can also reinstall second time. after installing it once.. to eliminate all the >errors.. > >if any one gets a better solution please post it.. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Friday, August 22, 2003 at 6:39 am Posted by Erno Boer (1 messages posted) Thanks!!! I would like to create a cd with xp and sp1 integrated, and i get the same problems. Now i have changed the ISO settings and everything works well. On Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 5:02 am, TRicK [BZ] wrote: >On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different >files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's > >Sorry for my bad English (i'm russian:) >I have same problem when i burning bootable CD with Nero. How i think it's happened >because DOS not understand symbols "-" and "~" in this files. To solve this trouble >u need to check in tab "ISO" under "character set" DOS (not ISO 9960!!!) and all >must be ok. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 2:02 pm Posted by another another mike (1 messages posted) I'm sure that you already have installed your OS by now and got it working but I had the same problem and found another workaround that I just completed. If you have an old copy of Win98, install that on your drive first and then install XP pro over it. Don't use the upgrade function but actually replace the OS as a new install. For some reason, the files got copied and installed just fine this way but were not able to work for me before. If anyone sees any error in this workaround, let me know but so far, so good. On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Saturday, September 13, 2003 at 6:09 am Posted by ^curious^boy (1 messages posted) Hello! can anyone help me how can i use DOS in place of ISO9660? I am trying to locate the Character Set selection on the Nero Express GUI, i can't find anything under the references.. can anyone help me pls?? Thank you! On Thursday, June 5, 2003 at 12:31 pm, perez wrote: >USE DOS IN PLACE OF ISO9660 when you burn your CD > >the 14 files are no more missing > >Have a nice day >Perez luis > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Tuesday, September 23, 2003 at 12:37 pm Posted by gchamby (1 messages posted) Hardly. I paid good money for a Universal MSDN subscription and have attempted to make a CD containing XP Pro twice now - once from the August DVD and once from the older April DVD before they integrated SP1A into it. I missed much of this thread so....If I'm using MSDN DVDs and wish to make a CD with just XP Pro on it, how do I proceed? I should note that my CD is not bootable so I have been booting to DOS and then running WINNT. I get these "unable to copy" errors EVERY time....even when I copy the files to the C drive first and install from there. Thanks for any assistance you can give. On Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 1:23 am, matthew ford wrote: >wow that worked great thanks so much! by the way all the people that have this trouble >are using a pirated version of windows xp because microsoft burns the cd in bulk >in dos encoding..when we download an .EXE extractor of the cd and burn it, it uses >the iso format.. but if you have downloaded a .iso of the xp cd and burn it, it will >work because its an identical copy :D [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Friday, October 10, 2003 at 11:57 am Posted by andy graham (17 messages posted) Just run this batch file to fix the missing files problem: ren cyclad_z.in_ cyclad-z.inf pause ren cyclom_y.in_ cyclom-y.inf pause ren headsp_1.wm_ headsp~1.wmz pause ren minipl_1.wm_ minipl~1.wmz pause ren utopia_1.wa_ utopia~1.wav pause ren utopia_2.wa_ utopia~2.wav pause ren utopia_3.wa_ utopia~3.wav pause ren utopia_4.wa_ utopia~4.wav pause ren sv_262e1.pn_ sv-262e1.png pause ren sv_262e3.pn_ sv-262e3.png pause ren sv_262e4.pn_ sv-262e4.png On Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 2:02 pm, another another mike wrote: >I'm sure that you already have installed your OS by now and got it working but I >had the same problem and found another workaround that I just completed. If you >have an old copy of Win98, install that on your drive first and then install XP pro >over it. Don't use the upgrade function but actually replace the OS as a new install. > For some reason, the files got copied and installed just fine this way but were >not able to work for me before. If anyone sees any error in this workaround, let >me know but so far, so good. > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files (ans) Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 7:58 am Posted by Gerardo Ponce (1 messages posted) Hello! I`ve have read these messages every time I´ve installed WinXP on different computers, and I never see a problem directly associated with them. So.... U can install WinXP and ignore these files. Good Luck from Mar del Plata, Argentina!! On Monday, January 13, 2003 at 10:28 am, Tejas Shah wrote: >These files are really important.. if u ignore them.. u will not see the Quick launch >toolbar properly... the windows media player will also give problems.. also the help >from start menu will not work.. also MSCONFIG will not run .... i guess its becuase >u are slipstreaming XP with SP1..... the above will occur if u install from DOS >or from bootable.. but if u install XP on WIN ME or 98 then ther is no problem.. >u can also reinstall second time. after installing it once.. to eliminate all the >errors.. > >if any one gets a better solution please post it.. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, December 27, 2003 at 5:40 am Posted by hippyer (1 messages posted) I have nero 6.0.0.20 and can't find the option to change it to the dos setting. Can someone help point it out to me please. Normally when burning bin files I use fireburner and also can't find the option in here. Any help much appreciated.. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 4:32 pm Posted by cade (1 messages posted) How do you setup this info to run in a batch file?? On Friday, October 10, 2003 at 11:57 am, Computer Beat Radio Show wrote: >Just run this batch file to fix the missing files problem: > >ren cyclad_z.in_ cyclad-z.inf >pause >ren cyclom_y.in_ cyclom-y.inf >pause >ren headsp_1.wm_ headsp~1.wmz >pause >ren minipl_1.wm_ minipl~1.wmz >pause >ren utopia_1.wa_ utopia~1.wav >pause >ren utopia_2.wa_ utopia~2.wav >pause >ren utopia_3.wa_ utopia~3.wav >pause >ren utopia_4.wa_ utopia~4.wav >pause >ren sv_262e1.pn_ sv-262e1.png >pause >ren sv_262e3.pn_ sv-262e3.png >pause >ren sv_262e4.pn_ sv-262e4.png > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 4:55 pm Posted by andy graham (17 messages posted) Just cut and paste those lines into a blank notepad document. Save it as "Fixxp.bat" . Run the batch file. On Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 4:32 pm, cade wrote: >How do you setup this info to run in a batch file?? > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Friday, January 9, 2004 at 10:00 am Posted by ran (1 messages posted) Do you run this batch first (before install that trouble CD) or run it after you complete installation? On Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 4:55 pm, andy graham wrote: >Just cut and paste those lines into a blank notepad document. Save it as "Fixxp.bat" >. Run the batch file. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, January 26, 2004 at 8:11 am Posted by M. Fahrenholz (1 messages posted) Hi, I have the same problem and I tried to run the batch. What is supposed to happen? I saved it on the harddisk and when I run it a window (dos) pops up and closes immediately. Is that right? thanks... On Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 4:55 pm, andy graham wrote: >Just cut and paste those lines into a blank notepad document. Save it as "Fixxp.bat" >. Run the batch file. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Friday, January 30, 2004 at 4:49 am Posted by Fernando (1 messages posted) You have to put the .bat file in the i386 folder.... Before the instalation. That batch did not work for me.... the correct one was: ren CYCLAD-z.in_ cyclad-z.inf ren cyclom-y.in_ cyclom-y.inf ren headsp~1.wm_ headsp~1.wmz ren minipl~1.wm_ minipl~1.wmz ren utopia~1.wa_ utopia~1.wav ren utopia~2.wa_ utopia~2.wav ren utopia~3.wa_ utopia~3.wav ren utopia~4.wa_ utopia~4.wav ren sv-262e1.pn_ sv-262e1.png ren sv-262e3.pn_ sv-262e3.png ren sv-262e4.pn_ sv-262e4.png pause On Monday, January 26, 2004 at 8:11 am, M. Fahrenholz wrote: > > >Hi, > >I have the same problem and I tried to run the batch. What is supposed to happen? >I saved it on the harddisk and when I run it a window (dos) pops up and closes immediately. >Is that right? > >thanks... > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, February 9, 2004 at 2:47 pm Posted by Branden (1 messages posted) when xp is setting up (installing windows) it asks you for the missing files, and allows you to find them. just put E:\i386\ as the directory or whatever your cdrom drive is and click ok and it works fine [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 7:51 am Posted by mike (358 messages posted) Greetings: We'ed like to point out a few things we've noticed with the cyclad and other files missing problem. Just to get this out of the way. This problem plagues legitimate copies of windows XP and Xp pro. Here's what we've noticed. #1: The cyclad... and other missing files occur in the install started from MS-DOS or XP boot disk install including the /i386/winnt.exe technique. #2: When upgrading from within windows 98, the errors of "missing (unable to extract)files" does not occur. #3: When viewing the drivers.cab file in windows 98 one can see and extract the cyclad and the other missing files. *Two out of the five* copies of windows XP we tested had problems with reading the drivers.cab missing files (ex.cyclad,e.t.c.) and other driver & CAB MM files. This includes viewing or extracting the files manualy in windows. Even if the entier windows xp install cd is copied to the HD for quick installation. The missing files problems still persists when done by (fresh install) ms-dos or xp boot/install floppy disk. As far as we can determine. There are either weak sectors on the windows xp install cd's , or the dirver.cab was not properly compiled. As for the no missing files when upgrading . It is conceivable that since windows 98 can read the cab files correctly and retries several times over to read a file . It is possible that the cyclad and other files are perhaps crosslinked or just bad cab files and windows 98 is able to recover the weak data. One person did comment to us that they didn't have a problem with the the missing files when running under an NTFS OS &partition, granted this may be possible. However our NTFS OS & partition test resulted in the same number of missing files as with a fat-32 partition. We did notice a difference when we installed and used a much slower/older cd-rom drive. 9 missing files instead of 14. Our best guess is the "weak sectors" theory. As slower/older cd-rom drives tend to produce less of the missing file errors. However it does not explain why a cd-writter with it's more advanced /accurate reading abilities is not able to read the weak sectors as well while in Ms-dos or NT/XP boot OSthan an old ex. 12x cd-rom drive. Unfortunately there is very little that can be done to undo the dammage to the data in the weak sectors. The missing/unredable files is also rather unstable. It's not always 14 files, it could be 11, or 3, or 15. In other words MS got a bad batch of cd's or the master was defective when making thier copies. Nextly we can't confirm this. However it is possible that if one has smartdrive running when installing xp from dos that it could casue these errors. Though we've never seen evidence of this. We can not confirm the effect of smardrive on Xp install's own cache. Also setting the cd-roms to mode 2 in the cmos/bios did provide a marked improvement in the number or missing file errors. We agree that this is odd . However it only makes sense when a fast cd-rom/writter is used on an older computer system . We hope this helps. On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Saturday, April 3, 2004 at 3:05 pm Posted by Don Ramsey (1 messages posted) When trying to burn my WinXP .ISO image using Nero Burning Rom, I could not tell Nero to use the DOS CD format instead of ISO9660 CD format. Instead I burned the ISO9660 CD and then copied the files from it back to my hard drive in a scratch dir. I then burned the files from that dir back to another CD and was then able to specify to use the DOS CD-R format. Note that Luis Perez is correct, the files that are not being found all have characters (- and ~) that are different in the ISO9660 character set than in the DOS character set (different hex code). If you do a dir cmd of the I386 directory on the ISO9660 CD the missing files will appear correct on the screen but the different hex codes for the - and ~ chrs will cause the files not to be found during the install. Also note that the file names all need to end in the standard Window's underscore character (_) -- not the real file name character. This means the file names want to be like ".in_", not ".inf". There is some mention in this message thread of using a batch file to rename the files -- this is a red herring -- the file names are fine as they are, the problem is the ISO9660 character codes. Using the DOS CD-R format fixes the problem just fine. Ironically, eventually I ended up just copying the entire WinXP CD to a scratch 2gig hard drive and installing from it instead using "winnt /s:D:\I386" because the copying of the files from the CD was abominably slow (12-15 hrs). From the spare hard drive it took about 20 minutes for the winnt program to copy all the installation files. I greatly recommend doing this over installing from a CD. Also the ISO9660 character set vs DOS character set difference problem just goes away when you use a hard drive since the character set used on the hard drive is automatically going to be the DOS character set, not the ISO9660 character set. -- Don Ramsey On Thursday, June 5, 2003 at 12:31 pm, perez wrote: >USE DOS IN PLACE OF ISO9660 when you burn your CD >the 14 files are no more missing >Have a nice day >Perez luis [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Monday, April 5, 2004 at 8:25 am Posted by imma (1 messages posted) load smartdrv.exe before you start the Xp installation from a CD. This speeds it the copying process On Saturday, April 3, 2004 at 3:05 pm, Don Ramsey wrote: >When trying to burn my WinXP .ISO image using Nero Burning Rom, I could not tell >Nero to use the DOS CD format instead of ISO9660 CD format. Instead I burned the >ISO9660 CD and then copied the files from it back to my hard drive in a scratch dir. > I then burned the files from that dir back to another CD and was then able to specify >to use the DOS CD-R format. Note that Luis Perez is correct, the files that are >not being found all have characters (- and ~) that are different in the ISO9660 character >set than in the DOS character set (different hex code). If you do a dir cmd of the >I386 directory on the ISO9660 CD the missing files will appear correct on the screen >but the different hex codes for the - and ~ chrs will cause the files not to be found >during the install. Also note that the file names all need to end in the standard >Window's underscore character (_) -- not the real file name character. This means >the file names want to be like ".in_", not ".inf". There is some mention in this >message thread of using a batch file to rename the files -- this is a red herring >-- the file names are fine as they are, the problem is the ISO9660 character codes. > Using the DOS CD-R format fixes the problem just fine. Ironically, eventually I >ended up just copying the entire WinXP CD to a scratch 2gig hard drive and installing >from it instead using "winnt /s:D:\I386" because the copying of the files from the >CD was abominably slow (12-15 hrs). From the spare hard drive it took about 20 minutes >for the winnt program to copy all the installation files. I greatly recommend doing >this over installing from a CD. Also the ISO9660 character set vs DOS character >set difference problem just goes away when you use a hard drive since the character >set used on the hard drive is automatically going to be the DOS character set, not >the ISO9660 character set. >-- Don Ramsey > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, April 10, 2004 at 2:27 am Posted by Wesley Tan (2 messages posted) So can someone please tell me in short what i should do to recover this missing files? Other then the fix batch is there other ways? On Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 7:51 am, mike wrote: >Greetings: > >We'ed like to point out a few things we've noticed with the cyclad and other files >missing problem. > >Just to get this out of the way. This problem plagues >legitimate copies of windows XP and Xp pro. > >Here's what we've noticed. > >#1: The cyclad... and other missing files occur in the install started from MS-DOS > or XP boot disk install including the /i386/winnt.exe technique. > >#2: When upgrading from within windows 98, the errors of "missing (unable to extract)files" >does not occur. > >#3: When viewing the drivers.cab file in windows 98 one can see and extract the cyclad >and the other missing files. > > *Two out of the five* copies of windows XP we tested had problems with reading >the drivers.cab missing files (ex.cyclad,e.t.c.) and other driver & CAB MM files. >This includes viewing or extracting the files manualy in windows. Even if the entier >windows xp install cd is copied to the HD for quick installation. The missing files >problems still persists when done by (fresh install) ms-dos or xp boot/install floppy >disk. > > As far as we can determine. There are either weak sectors on the windows >xp install cd's , or the dirver.cab was not properly compiled. > >As for the no missing files when upgrading . It is conceivable that since windows >98 can read the cab files correctly and retries several times over to read a file >. It is possible that the cyclad and other files are perhaps crosslinked or just >bad cab files and windows 98 is able to recover the weak data. > >One person did comment to us that they didn't have a problem with the the missing >files when running under an NTFS OS &partition, granted this may be possible. However >our NTFS OS & partition test resulted in the same number of missing files as with >a fat-32 partition. > >We did notice a difference when we installed and used a much slower/older cd-rom >drive. 9 missing files instead of 14. > >Our best guess is the "weak sectors" theory. As slower/older cd-rom drives tend to >produce less of the missing file errors. However it does not explain why a cd-writter >with it's more advanced /accurate reading abilities >is not able to read the weak sectors as well while in Ms-dos or NT/XP boot OSthan >an old ex. 12x cd-rom drive. Unfortunately there is very little that can be done >to undo the dammage to the data in the weak sectors. > >The missing/unredable files is also rather unstable. It's not >always 14 files, it could be 11, or 3, or 15. > >In other words MS got a bad batch of cd's or the master was defective when making >thier copies. > >Nextly we can't confirm this. However it is possible that if one has smartdrive running > when installing xp from dos that >it could casue these errors. Though we've never seen evidence of this. We can not >confirm the effect of smardrive on Xp install's own cache. > >Also setting the cd-roms to mode 2 in the cmos/bios did provide a marked improvement >in the number or missing file errors. We agree that this is odd . However it only >makes sense when a fast cd-rom/writter is used on an older computer system . > >We hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, April 10, 2004 at 2:38 am Posted by Wesley Tan (2 messages posted) Do i have to open it to the hard drive or do i us copy the .batch file to the Windows XP CD? If i am suppose to copy it to the cd then why is is at a different sector where it says: "Files ready to be written to the cd". What am i supposed to do then? On Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 4:55 pm, andy graham wrote: >Just cut and paste those lines into a blank notepad document. Save it as "Fixxp.bat" >. Run the batch file. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, May 31, 2004 at 5:53 am Posted by Bill (1 messages posted) I also had the file problems (11 missing files) and found 2 solutions. 1. If your using Nero to burn with try RecordNow Max by Vertias and Stomp. For some odd reason Nero will cause the missing file errors but RecordNow works Great!! 2. If you dont have RecordNow then you can put the 11 files Cyclad-z.inf etc on a floppy and later in the installation it will ask for the missing files , just put in the floppy and it will transfer them for you and will work ... Thats all folks !! bill On Saturday, April 10, 2004 at 2:38 am, Wesley Tan wrote: >Do i have to open it to the hard drive or do i us copy the .batch file to the Windows >XP CD? If i am suppose to copy it to the cd then why is is at a different sector >where it says: "Files ready to be written to the cd". What am i supposed to do then? > > > :-D [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Friday, June 4, 2004 at 12:40 am Posted by Elora (1 messages posted) Alright I copied and pasted the files and saved it to my floppy disk from my A:/ drive .. how do i run the batch.. or save it to the i386 thing I'm so confused On Monday, May 31, 2004 at 5:53 am, Bill wrote: >I also had the file problems (11 missing files) and found 2 solutions. 1. If your >using Nero to burn with try RecordNow Max by Vertias and Stomp. For some odd reason >Nero will cause the missing file errors but RecordNow works Great!! 2. If you dont >have RecordNow then you can put the 11 files Cyclad-z.inf etc on a floppy and later >in the installation it will ask for the missing files , just put in the floppy and >it will transfer them for you and will work ... Thats all folks !! bill > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 11:27 am Posted by cold (2 messages posted) here's what you do: copy all files from the Windows XP CD to a folder in your hard drive. extract the boot record from the CD using ISOBuster or CDMage. (try google search isobuster, cdmage) load nero burning rom and close the wizard. create new compilation and choose CD-ROM (boot). Boot Tab: browse the extracted boot record as the source of the image file, check enable expert settings. kind of emulation: No Emulation load segments of sectors (hex!): 0000 number of loaded sectors: 4 ISO Tab: File/Directory Name Length: ISO Level 1 Format: Mode 1 Character Set: DOS (important) check Joliet check do not add the ';1' ISO file version extension Label Tab: choose a label for your CD, usually WXPVOL_EN Dates Tab: use the date and time from original file Misc Tab: check cache files from disk and network check cache files smaller than [64] kb Burn Tab: check Write check Finalize CD write method: Disc-at-Once drag the files which you copied from the folder of your hard drive to the compilation window. Burn the Disc. --------------------------------------- the 'missing' files are not actually missing. the only problem is those files use the characters '-' and '~' which are not allowed by the ISO 9660 character set. only 'A-Z','0-9','_' characters are valid for ISO 9660 character set. the DOS character set allows '-' and '~' characters. cold [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 12:09 pm Posted by cold (2 messages posted) the guy who posted that the Windows XP CD has weak sectors is totally wrong, infact the XP CD is unprotected and can be copied. cold [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Sunday, August 15, 2004 at 6:24 pm Posted by Larry (1 messages posted) Sorry buddy but you are incorect blaming the problem on pirated software. I just bought 21 licenses at work for the corporate version of Pro and received a hologram copy straight from MS. And I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM with the missing files on install to all 21 machines. On Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 1:23 am, matthew ford wrote: >wow that worked great thanks so much! by the way all the people that have this trouble >are using a pirated version of windows xp because microsoft burns the cd in bulk >in dos encoding..when we download an .EXE extractor of the cd and burn it, it uses >the iso format.. but if you have downloaded a .iso of the xp cd and burn it, it will >work because its an identical copy :D [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Sunday, October 3, 2004 at 5:46 pm Posted by m (1 messages posted) Following files won't copy: 1. cyclod-Z.inf 2. cyclom-Y.inf. 3. minipl~1.wmz 4. headsp~1.wmz 5. utopia~1.wav 6. utopia~2.wav 7. utopia~3.wav 8. utopia~4.wav 9. sv-262el.png 10. sv262el3.png 11. sv-s62e4.png 1. cyclod-Z.inf = c:\windows\driver cache\i386\driver.cab = cyclod-z.sys 2. cyclom-Y.inf. = c:\windows\driver cache\i386\driver.cab = cyclom-y.sys 3. minipl~1.wmz = c:\program files\windows media player\skins 4. Same as above and are meaningless skins 5. No big deal sound waves for utopia sound scheme 6. “ 7. “ 8. “ 9. Through 11 are pictures of joy sticks in C:\windows\system32\directX\Dinput bottom line these files don't matter but i saw something on the web about this being associated with bogus copy of xp [Reply or follow-up to this message] XP Install Missing Files: Correct Fix Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 12:58 am Posted by Nesmira (3 messages posted) Alright, I got done reading all your posts and I'm afraid that none solved the issue. Now, let me clear up some of the confusion going on. First issue is the CD file structure. It does NOT matter which ISO9660 format you use as long as it remains ISO9660. None of the critical install files are truncated. example: driver1~.cab That is why on the REAL XP install CDs, you will see files LONGER THAN 8 characters!!! A good example so you see I am not lying is to check out the XP image in the DOCS folder. If you already modified the original install files by using DOS 8:3 filename, you will see a truncated file. That original file name is in FACT: winXP_logo_horiz_sm.gif That image is referenced in the original README.HTM placed at the root of the CD. So that blows away the whole DOS 8:3 theory. Second, DO NOT rename files. example.dll is NOT the same as example.dl_. The reason is because alot of these files are placed into windows CAB files and the "_" underscore seperates them for indexing. If you clearly look at your system32 folder you will notice the lack of underscores. When missing a file (namely a DLL) windows replaces the file from the custom CABs it created during installation and renames it without the underscore. It does this to protect the integrity of the operating system and to also limit the files neccessary in the directory. You ask: Why wouldn't they just keep everything in a CAB from the start? Here's why. Install would take forever. Remember, not all computers are the same, and that's why there are drivers too. Hardware specific reasons. I'm not going into detail on that. You get the idea. It is NOT the speed which you burn CD's, the type of media (well, maybe...if you buy really really cheap crap) or so called "Weak sectors". How can a sector be weak? Either you can read it, or not. There is a difference between being dirty or scratched or old cd readers to be dirty. It is possible however to have bad files from damaged media. Of course, there are too many people with the same problem for us all to have bad files. Even someone else who posted that they got Corporate XP discs with the Microsoft Hologram on them. This is NOT a pirated version issue either. Microsoft did NOT get smart overnight and suddenly stumble across a way to trick us. It is ALL based on pure logic, not conspiracy. If you are still stubborn about the ISO argument. Go here and learn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660. The install files are not longer than 8:3 anyway. Now that all the rubbish is taken care of, lets get to the REAL resolution. Microsoft published an article which was somewhat more realistic. You can find this article here: Random Files May Not Be Copied During Text:Mode Setup http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=257954 Indeed, the files are certainly random. They change from person to person, disc to disc, machine to different machine. Different files missing? Different machines? Yup, I believe this is a hardware issue. Perhaps performance reasons. I know from my own experience, I have not seen this on newer machines, not to say that it doesn't happen. In the microsoft article they mention bus speeds. 100MHz and 133MHz particularly. All the machines I have come across that did this were specifically 100MHz or 133MHz bus speeds. This issue would normally be closed at this point, however this happens on machines meant for 133MHz bus speed and installed with 133MHz memory and CPUs. The same goes for 100MHz systems. For all those CompTIA A+ techs out there, this should make some sense. Lets say you are copying a file. Step 1. The program needs to copy a file. Step 2. The program utilizes the kernel in memory and passes the command to the processor. Step 3. The processor processes the command and says (in laymans language) ok, I need to tell the CD-ROM to retrieve this file and send it to memory which I will then copy to the hard drive. Simple right? So if all goes well, Mr. CPU reads the disc, finds the file, and routes the appropriate data through the chipset to memory. From there, the CPU gives the command to retrieve data from memory and now route back through the chipset to disk. ALL DATA MUST BE PROCESSED AND SENT TO MEMORY!!! This is the basics of hardware and data processing. Now, all these processes are based on time. Your memory has a time to it. It's called a cycle, and measured in MHz. Hypothetically, your system bus is as fast as the slowest component will permit. Now, lets say the memory is faster than the bus. Microsoft is correct in the idea that the hardware was not limiting the correct cycle time. In this theory, since the memory has a faster cycle, it would report information too fast and incomplete to the CPU's normal bus reading speed and miss data chunks to report that the data is corrupt (not in order). Or missing like the error message you all get. Corruption is inability to read from the source. However the error message does not tell you "Cannot read file from disc". It simply says, "File is corrupt or missing". The program does not distinguish the difference between corrupt or missing. We know for a FACT that it is NOT missing. Since this happens randomly on machines for different files, we know it can't be corrupt files. Corruption also happens when memory modules are bad, but then again, we can't all have bad memory. So here we are back to the same problem. Random errors. Random to you maybe, but not the computer. :-) A reasonable explanation is that the cycle time in memory can appear to make data incomplete and corrupt since the CPU checks the CDROM again to see if the data is intact during its transfer to memory. If memory does not match the data on disc, it is corrupt and not passed to Hard disk. Depending on the data order being copied vs. your bus speed will be your corrupt or missing files. The larger the gap, the more the missing or corrupt files. It's a detailed mathematical equation based on time. If you still didn't get that, pretend you are playing baseball(transfering files). And the pitcher(memory) throws 5 balls(data) at once for you(the CPU) to catch. Are you going to catch every single one? Didn't think so. Now, this is a test. I am not for certain it will work. But, I have exhausted and eliminated all the other possibilities. I will be testing this tonight and try a variety of solutions. From memory performance, to size, to quantity and quality of memory sticks. I hope it works and I will report all findings back to this forum. Sorry for the long post, but this problem has got to be resolved. Thanks for reading!!! -Nesmira [Reply or follow-up to this message] XP Install Missing Files: New Info Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 7:08 pm Posted by Nesmira (3 messages posted) I must correct a statement I made in the previous post about corruption. The actual error just states "The file cannot be copied." The gives options to either skip, retry, or quit setup. I got too caught up in something else there. Same concept though... But anyway, I found out some new info to point in the right direction. Hardware seemed like an appropriate solution, but to no avail. At least it has nothing to do with hardware incompatability or speed. Hey, at least the theory was tested. Now, I have stumbled across some new ideas. Some things I noticed about these files. The underscored files are obviously compressed versions, not that it surprises me. But what if these files are from a different windows build and no longer listed as that particular file size? There's a file list that it copies over from, and I gotta find out what it is. What if the file size in that list is reported incorrectly? It might not copy it because it is the incorrect size. This seems more unlikely though because why would my discs from before suddenly work properly. This certainly is a rather strange bug. I have a bootable SP1 slipstream that works without any hassle now. Before, the SAME disc used to give me all sorts of trouble on this very same system. The only change was the arrangement of hardware. When I slipstream SP2, I get two files which will not copy. Perhaps it could be hardware and software related. I can't seem to pin it down. I modified EVERYTHING in the bios trying to get a change. I removed hardware, switched memory, and even slowed things way down. Still the same result. Mike had a good idea there. I'm very experienced with smartdrive in DOS. I used to make these insane WIN98 install CDs that would slam the O/S on a partition and you would be sitting on the desktop in 15 mins. Well, that was with another utility that creates a huge drive letter in memory. Basically it installed win98 completely from memory. One of the items I noticed during that is sometimes... and only sometimes, random even, it would say a file was missing. I believe it could be the environment XP is loading to copy the files efficiently and faster. It still goes along with the whole memory idea I had before too. So it would be hardware, and software related. I'm going to create my own WINXP load environment and see what happens. I wonder if they are using smartdrive?? Perhaps tweaked too high? I'll be back with more tests. -Nesmira [Reply or follow-up to this message] XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 10:42 pm Posted by Nesmira (3 messages posted) palab.ttf = 1,,434004,,,,,22,0,0,,1,22 Well, I found that file list. It's in i386/layout.inf At the top is a quick sample of what the file listings are. 22 basically means install to the fonts directory. 434,004 is the uncompressed file size and yes all this stuff is listed in uncompressed form. You can use expand.exe to uncompress these files. They are ALL valid files and they do work. Which once again eliminates any ideas of pirated or corrupt files. So now that leaves me to believe that the files are not be copied properly by the kernel. It's the load environment. I'll just make it boot differently. Hopefully it works. Here's a couple cool sites for bootable stuff: http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-create-multi-os-cd-2.htm http://bootcd.narod.ru/ntmultibootcd_e.htm -Nesmira [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 1:05 am Posted by mavr (1 messages posted) Some CD record software change '-' in file names to '_' if you choose ISO-9660 name space. So it would be cyclod_Z.in_ instead of cyclod-Z.in_ on the CD. But on the original MS disk it is '-' >Following files won't copy: > >1. cyclod-Z.inf >2. cyclom-Y.inf. ... >10. sv262el3.png >11. sv-s62e4.png >9. Through 11 are pictures of joy sticks in C:\windows\system32\directX\Dinput > >bottom line these files don't matter >but i saw something on the web about this being >associated with bogus copy of xp. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 6:02 pm Posted by fank (1 messages posted) These are only files with special chars [~-]. Problem with mode(.com) and keyb(.com) settings. On Sunday, October 3, 2004 at 5:46 pm, m wrote: >Following files won't copy: > > >1. cyclod-Z.inf >2. cyclom-Y.inf. >3. minipl~1.wmz >4. headsp~1.wmz >5. utopia~1.wav >6. utopia~2.wav >7. utopia~3.wav >8. utopia~4.wav >9. sv-262el.png >10. sv262el3.png >11. sv-s62e4.png > >1. cyclod-Z.inf = c:\windows\driver cache\i386\driver.cab = cyclod-z.sys >2. cyclom-Y.inf. = c:\windows\driver cache\i386\driver.cab = cyclom-y.sys >3. minipl~1.wmz = c:\program files\windows media player\skins >4. Same as above and are meaningless skins >5. No big deal sound waves for utopia sound scheme >6. “ >7. “ >8. “ >9. Through 11 are pictures of joy sticks in C:\windows\system32\directX\Dinput > >bottom line these files don't matter >but i saw something on the web about this being associated with bogus copy of xp [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: XP Install Missing Files: Correct Fix Sunday, January 9, 2005 at 3:24 am Posted by scott (1 messages posted) I can confirm this theory. I just in stalled some faster memory into an older machine and it is the first time i have ever seen this with this cd. it has always worked in the past. -scott On Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 12:58 am, Nesmira wrote: >Alright, I got done reading all your posts and I'm afraid that none solved the issue. > >Now, let me clear up some of the confusion going on. > >First issue is the CD file structure. It does NOT matter >which ISO9660 format you use as long as it remains ISO9660. None of the critical >install files are truncated. example: driver1~.cab > >That is why on the REAL XP install CDs, you will see files LONGER THAN 8 characters!!! > A good example so you see I am not lying is to check out the XP image in the >color="blue">DOCS folder. If you already modified the original install files >by using DOS 8:3 filename, you will see a truncated file. That original file name >is in FACT: >winXP_logo_horiz_sm.gif > >That image is referenced in the original README.HTM placed >at the root of the CD. So that blows away the whole DOS 8:3 theory. > >Second, DO NOT rename files. example.dll is NOT the same >as example.dl_. The reason is because alot of these files are placed into windows >CAB files and the "_" underscore seperates them for indexing. If you clearly look >at your system32 folder >you will notice the lack of underscores. When missing a file (namely a DLL) windows >replaces the file from the custom CABs it created during installation and renames >it without the underscore. It does this to protect the integrity of the operating >system and to also limit the files neccessary in the directory. You ask: Why wouldn't >they just keep everything in a CAB from the start? Here's why. Install would take >forever. Remember, not all computers are the same, and that's why there are drivers >too. Hardware specific reasons. I'm not going into detail on that. You get the >idea. > >It is NOT the speed which you burn CD's, the type of media >(well, maybe...if you buy really really cheap crap) or so called "Weak sectors". > How can a sector be weak? Either you can read it, or not. There is a difference >between being dirty or scratched or old cd readers to be dirty. It is possible however >to have bad files from damaged media. Of course, there are too many people with >the same problem for us all to have bad files. Even someone else who posted that >they got Corporate XP discs with the Microsoft Hologram on them. > >This is NOT a pirated version issue either. Microsoft did >NOT get smart overnight and suddenly stumble across a way to trick us. It is ALL >based on pure logic, not conspiracy. > >If you are still stubborn about the ISO argument. Go here and learn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660. >The install files are not longer than 8:3 anyway. > >Now that all the rubbish is taken care of, lets get to the REAL resolution. > >Microsoft published an article which was somewhat more realistic. You can find this >article here: >Random Files May Not Be Copied During Text:Mode Setup >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=257954 > >Indeed, the files are certainly random. They change from person to person, disc to >disc, machine to different machine. Different files missing? Different machines? > Yup, I believe this is a hardware issue. Perhaps performance reasons. I know from >my own experience, I have not seen this on newer machines, not to say that it doesn't >happen. In the microsoft article they mention bus speeds. 100MHz and 133MHz particularly. > All the machines I have come across that did this were specifically 100MHz or 133MHz >bus speeds. > >This issue would normally be closed at this point, however this happens on machines >meant for 133MHz bus speed and installed with 133MHz memory and CPUs. The same goes >for 100MHz systems. > >For all those CompTIA A+ techs out there, this should make some sense. Lets say >you are copying a file. >Step 1. The program needs to copy a file. >Step 2. The program utilizes the kernel in memory and passes the command to the processor. >Step 3. The processor processes the command and says (in laymans language) ok, I >need to tell the CD-ROM to retrieve this file and send it to memory which I will >then copy to the hard drive. > >Simple right? > >So if all goes well, Mr. CPU reads the disc, finds the file, and routes the appropriate >data through the chipset to memory. From there, the CPU gives the command to retrieve >data from memory and now route back through the chipset to disk. ALL DATA MUST BE >PROCESSED AND SENT TO MEMORY!!! This is the basics of hardware and data processing. > >Now, all these processes are based on time. Your memory has a time to it. It's >called a cycle, and measured in MHz. Hypothetically, your system bus is as fast >as the slowest component will permit. Now, lets say the memory is faster than the >bus. Microsoft is correct in the idea that the hardware was not limiting the correct >cycle time. > >In this theory, since the memory has a faster cycle, it would report information >too fast and incomplete to the CPU's normal bus reading speed and miss data chunks >to report that the data is corrupt (not in order). Or missing like the error message >you all get. Corruption is inability to read from the source. However the error >message does not tell you "Cannot read file from disc". It simply says, "File is >corrupt or missing". The program does not distinguish the difference between corrupt >or missing. We know for a FACT that it is NOT missing. Since this happens randomly >on machines for different files, we know it can't be corrupt files. Corruption also >happens when memory modules are bad, but then again, we can't all have bad memory. > >So here we are back to the same problem. Random errors. Random to you maybe, but >not the computer. :-) > >A reasonable explanation is that the cycle time in memory can appear to make data >incomplete and corrupt since the CPU checks the CDROM again to see if the data is >intact during its transfer to memory. If memory does not match the data on disc, >it is corrupt and not passed to Hard disk. > >Depending on the data order being copied vs. your bus speed will be your corrupt >or missing files. The larger the gap, the more the missing or corrupt files. It's >a detailed mathematical equation based on time. > >If you still didn't get that, pretend you are playing baseball(transfering files). > And the pitcher(memory) throws 5 balls(data) at once for you(the CPU) to catch. > Are you going to catch every single one? Didn't think so. > >Now, this is a test. I am not for certain it will work. But, I have exhausted and >eliminated all the other possibilities. I will be testing this tonight and try a >variety of solutions. From memory performance, to size, to quantity and quality >of memory sticks. I hope it works and I will report all findings back to this forum. > Sorry for the long post, but this problem has got to be resolved. > >Thanks for reading!!! >-Nesmira [Reply or follow-up to this message] I READ the whole thread and this post was the most Monday, January 17, 2005 at 10:24 am Posted by Bri (2 messages posted) promising. Everything else has a counter arguement and some proof behind it. Bottom line there are common files not being utilised at XP Pro installation and how do we deal with their effects given they were present (for whatever reasons) at the installation? I sussed the skins and pics and sounds are not required but its these two inf to sys files (below) I'm concerned about. The previous poster may be linking the cd inf files to the sys files on the HDD? Can I simply copy said files to that folder, and rename them? Or has their absence left an indelible mark on my OS? I dunno. But I've zip technical knowledge, and want to know what the bottom line is..rather than what caused it...(oh and what these two files are responsible for) if anyone knows. Please be nice to me its taken 3 days to install the OS on a new PC and ....oh boy...I've got those self same files not loading at the installation stage. On Sunday, October 3, 2004 at 5:46 pm, m wrote: > > > >1. cyclod-Z.inf = c:\windows\driver cache\i386\driver.cab = cyclod-z.sys >2. cyclom-Y.inf. = c:\windows\driver cache\i386\driver.cab = cyclom-y.sys [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, January 20, 2005 at 5:30 am Posted by Joel Thayer (2 messages posted) Mike...great thoughts. After several attempts to reinstall XP to fix my missing files/driver problem, the computer won't boot at all. (I'm writing this on line with my 9 year old mac! eeeww!) I went ahead with a reinstall of XP because I have been having trouble installing everthing from Digital camera software to Bible software and now Windows XP reinstall. The XP reinstall found 59 (!) missing dll, sys, exe, infacs, bin, mst, and icm files. The only variable I could come up with as to why the blasted 'puter wouldn't insall anything all of the sudden was the new CD-RW I installed a couple weeks ago. My computer has only a 399 MHz cpu (the highest for that motherboard) and although it runs the burner, it dose so slowly. I bet it takes 30 min. on average to burn a CD. Though the CD-RW is 52x 24x 52x. But I bet the read speed is too fast. Anyhow, I'm going to first try setting the cd-roms to mode 2 er something in the cmos/bios, if no go, I'll put the old cdrom in and try again, if still no go, I guess I'll reinstall 98 and go from there. I'll try to keep the readers posted... On Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 7:51 am, mike wrote: >Greetings: > >We'ed like to point out a few things we've noticed with the cyclad and other files >missing problem. > >Just to get this out of the way. This problem plagues >legitimate copies of windows XP and Xp pro. > >Here's what we've noticed. > >#1: The cyclad... and other missing files occur in the install started from MS-DOS > or XP boot disk install including the /i386/winnt.exe technique. > >#2: When upgrading from within windows 98, the errors of "missing (unable to extract)files" >does not occur. > >#3: When viewing the drivers.cab file in windows 98 one can see and extract the cyclad >and the other missing files. > > *Two out of the five* copies of windows XP we tested had problems with reading >the drivers.cab missing files (ex.cyclad,e.t.c.) and other driver & CAB MM files. >This includes viewing or extracting the files manualy in windows. Even if the entier >windows xp install cd is copied to the HD for quick installation. The missing files >problems still persists when done by (fresh install) ms-dos or xp boot/install floppy >disk. > > As far as we can determine. There are either weak sectors on the windows >xp install cd's , or the dirver.cab was not properly compiled. > >As for the no missing files when upgrading . It is conceivable that since windows >98 can read the cab files correctly and retries several times over to read a file >. It is possible that the cyclad and other files are perhaps crosslinked or just >bad cab files and windows 98 is able to recover the weak data. > >One person did comment to us that they didn't have a problem with the the missing >files when running under an NTFS OS &partition, granted this may be possible. However >our NTFS OS & partition test resulted in the same number of missing files as with >a fat-32 partition. > >We did notice a difference when we installed and used a much slower/older cd-rom >drive. 9 missing files instead of 14. > >Our best guess is the "weak sectors" theory. As slower/older cd-rom drives tend to >produce less of the missing file errors. However it does not explain why a cd-writter >with it's more advanced /accurate reading abilities >is not able to read the weak sectors as well while in Ms-dos or NT/XP boot OSthan >an old ex. 12x cd-rom drive. Unfortunately there is very little that can be done >to undo the dammage to the data in the weak sectors. > >The missing/unredable files is also rather unstable. It's not >always 14 files, it could be 11, or 3, or 15. > >In other words MS got a bad batch of cd's or the master was defective when making >thier copies. > >Nextly we can't confirm this. However it is possible that if one has smartdrive running > when installing xp from dos that >it could casue these errors. Though we've never seen evidence of this. We can not >confirm the effect of smardrive on Xp install's own cache. > >Also setting the cd-roms to mode 2 in the cmos/bios did provide a marked improvement >in the number or missing file errors. We agree that this is odd . However it only >makes sense when a fast cd-rom/writter is used on an older computer system . > >We hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files - mine was hardware Friday, January 28, 2005 at 2:15 pm Posted by Tom Anshultz (1 messages posted) Hi, Just read through the thread after googling it. I had the exact same problem that was described. I burned 1 XP CD with SP2 slipstreamed - and I could not read random files. However, I could never read driver.cab. Well, I threw the CD into my trusty Mac and copied it to a folder. The Mac read everything except driver.cab. So, I went back and burned a new copy - limiting the burner to 8X. Now the Mac could read everything, but I was still getting random read errors on the PC, and it still always included driver.cab. Then I moved the superdrive from the Mac over to the PC and walla, everything installed just fine. No read errors at all. So, I'm at the point where I'm thinking I need to spend a bit more money for a decent burner for my PC. I'll probably go out and get the same OEM brand that apple chucked into the Mac and be happy! Good luck to all of you with similar problems. [Reply or follow-up to this message] What XP version? Mine was corporate pro Saturday, January 29, 2005 at 7:23 am Posted by Bri (2 messages posted) so I'm told. It could be certain errors for certain versions (XP home XP pro and XP pro corporate I'm told exist). So far I've had no troubles with my new base unit but I'm not exactly using it for a variety of things. yeah this thread is THE best reference source on the net for this/these problems. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, January 31, 2005 at 5:58 am Posted by Joel Thayer (2 messages posted) As an update to my last reply to Mike: My experiment(s) supports the "missing files" problem as fundamentally a HARDWARE problem. I can't say what exactly (although a 400 Mhz, 192 ram, 145 watt, 66 bus, running two hard drives, xp and itoons simultaniously and a cd-rw in burn session is a problem waiting to happen) but I'll share my experiment: I reinstalled my Old CD-ROM (36x) and loaded all my programs successfully--including xp. I then reinstalled the cd-rw along side the cd-rom and all is well. I still can't load programs from the new rw. The CD-RW is one of these cheep kind ($40) and that might have something to do with it. Nor can I change the read speed on it--not in the cmos or bios or on the unit itself. ALSO: I've not attempted to burn software to this cd-rw but I have burnt music. And occasionally the music SKIPS(!) consistantly in the same place regardless of the unit from which I play the music. And this is the case for each music cd I burn. So it's obvious to me that the hard ware--i.e. motherboard, cpu, ram, or perhaps the power supply--is compatable but not FULLY compatable with the newly installed cd-rw. I'm almost certain if I were to burn software I would have a "skip"--so to speak--in it as well. Indeed. A "skiped" or "missing" file. to restate: a 400 Mhz, 192 pc100 ram, 145 watt, 66 bus, running two hard drives, xp and itoons simultaniously and a cd-rw in burn session is a problem waiting to happen. I have not narrowed the problem down to a specific piece of hardware but I must conclude it is a HARDWARE problem-- wether reading or burning. On Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 7:51 am, mike wrote: >Greetings: > >We'ed like to point out a few things we've noticed with the cyclad and other files >missing problem. > >Just to get this out of the way. This problem plagues >legitimate copies of windows XP and Xp pro. > >Here's what we've noticed. > >#1: The cyclad... and other missing files occur in the install started from MS-DOS > or XP boot disk install including the /i386/winnt.exe technique. > >#2: When upgrading from within windows 98, the errors of "missing (unable to extract)files" >does not occur. > >#3: When viewing the drivers.cab file in windows 98 one can see and extract the cyclad >and the other missing files. > > *Two out of the five* copies of windows XP we tested had problems with reading >the drivers.cab missing files (ex.cyclad,e.t.c.) and other driver & CAB MM files. >This includes viewing or extracting the files manualy in windows. Even if the entier >windows xp install cd is copied to the HD for quick installation. The missing files >problems still persists when done by (fresh install) ms-dos or xp boot/install floppy >disk. > > As far as we can determine. There are either weak sectors on the windows >xp install cd's , or the dirver.cab was not properly compiled. > >As for the no missing files when upgrading . It is conceivable that since windows >98 can read the cab files correctly and retries several times over to read a file >. It is possible that the cyclad and other files are perhaps crosslinked or just >bad cab files and windows 98 is able to recover the weak data. > >One person did comment to us that they didn't have a problem with the the missing >files when running under an NTFS OS &partition, granted this may be possible. However >our NTFS OS & partition test resulted in the same number of missing files as with >a fat-32 partition. > >We did notice a difference when we installed and used a much slower/older cd-rom >drive. 9 missing files instead of 14. > >Our best guess is the "weak sectors" theory. As slower/older cd-rom drives tend to >produce less of the missing file errors. However it does not explain why a cd-writter >with it's more advanced /accurate reading abilities >is not able to read the weak sectors as well while in Ms-dos or NT/XP boot OSthan >an old ex. 12x cd-rom drive. Unfortunately there is very little that can be done >to undo the dammage to the data in the weak sectors. > >The missing/unredable files is also rather unstable. It's not >always 14 files, it could be 11, or 3, or 15. > >In other words MS got a bad batch of cd's or the master was defective when making >thier copies. > >Nextly we can't confirm this. However it is possible that if one has smartdrive running > when installing xp from dos that >it could casue these errors. Though we've never seen evidence of this. We can not >confirm the effect of smardrive on Xp install's own cache. > >Also setting the cd-roms to mode 2 in the cmos/bios did provide a marked improvement >in the number or missing file errors. We agree that this is odd . However it only >makes sense when a fast cd-rom/writter is used on an older computer system . > >We hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, February 10, 2005 at 5:37 pm Posted by mitsumi19 (1 messages posted) Hello, I also bought a legitimate version of Windows XP with SP1 integrated and I also have the same errors from the first post. Now i dont really care about png's, a few wavs, or a driver for ancient hardware that I dont have anyway. However I just bought a new computer, and I borred windows reduced media edition from a friend of mine, since his computer broke down, and he wanted to see if it worked nicely on mine. Whenever I install the cd, i get the same errors as described above, yet the files are this time not cyclad.inf, but the very necessairy driver.cab, and also regedit.exe I have literrally *no* idea how to solve it, since the whole trick of burning it in DOS mode didn't work either. I tried that 3 times. Evenso, the theory of 8.3 filenames is nice, but driver.cab should give no problems in DOS since that is only 6.3. I've tried it with several different cd's/dvd's to make sure its not the media, and I also tried it on 4 (!) different computers, with all different kinds of hardware, and even switching or taking out a stick of RAM like described in other forums did not work. I'm kinda getting tired of it all... Dont get me wrong, I do have a legitimate version of XP already installed but I cannot afford it to let one of the 2 computers I currently own go dead, due to a failure during the installation. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Sunday, February 13, 2005 at 10:17 am Posted by Mike L (1 messages posted) Since nobody has yet to spell it out step-by-step how to solve this issue, this is exactly what I did, and the CD I created works perfectly. To resolve this failure, perform the following steps: 1. Copy the entire contents of the Windows XP SPx CD to a folder on your hard drive. 2. Using a program like IsoBuster, extract the boot image from the XP cd. (or download it here http://pchelplive.com/xp.img) 3. Open your CD burning software and create a new bootable CD. In this example I am using Nero 6.x. 4. Under the Boot tab, select the boot image file (xp.img) and uncheck the “Enable Expert Settings” option. 5. Under the ISO tab choose the settings as follows: Data Mode: Mode 1 File System: ISO9660 only File Name Length: Max of 11 = 8 + 3 chars (Level 1) Character Set: DOS Select “Allow path depth of more than 8 directories” Select “Allow more than 255 characters in a path” Select “Do not add the ‘;1’ ISO file version extension” 6. Under the Label tab ensure that the title of the CD matches exactly with the original CD. (Example: WXPCCP_EN) 7. Leave all other settings at their default value and click New. 8. Drag-n-drop all of the files from the folder where you copied the xp cd to into the project. 9. Burn away. The critical setting is the Character Set. The default value for most CD burning software is the ISO9660 character format. This is what causes the read errors. The characters of ‘~’ and ‘-‘ have a different hex value in ISO9660 than DOS. Thanks!!! Mike http://www.pchelplive.com [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Sunday, March 6, 2005 at 4:47 pm Posted by J. (17 messages posted) That's not true. I'm getting missing files during install from a 100% legit copy of XP pro. On Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 1:23 am, matthew ford wrote: >wow that worked great thanks so much! by the way all the people that have this trouble >are using a pirated version of windows xp because microsoft burns the cd in bulk >in dos encoding..when we download an .EXE extractor of the cd and burn it, it uses >the iso format.. but if you have downloaded a .iso of the xp cd and burn it, it will >work because its an identical copy :D [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files SOLUTION Sunday, March 6, 2005 at 5:00 pm Posted by Mike L (2 messages posted) Yes, this is true. I can almost guarantee that the CD you are using is a Genuine 100% pure legit copy of Windows XP with SP1 or SP2 integrated. The key portion being SP1 or SP2. Microsoft, evidiently didn't test their own images to see if they would function when an unattended installation is launched from DOS. This is the only circumstance where you will see the issue. You can boot to the CD and run an installation fine. You can even run an unattended installation launched by booting to the cd with a winnt.sif file on a floppy. If you have a copy of Windows that exhibits this issue, burnt or original, you will have to recreate the CD using the instructions I posted in February. Trust me... :) On Sunday, March 6, 2005 at 4:47 pm, J. wrote: > >That's not true. I'm getting missing files during install from a 100% legit copy >of XP pro. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 2:28 pm Posted by J. (17 messages posted) I'm using nero express 6.2, and I can't find this boot tab or iso tab that you speak of. help me out a little more please! I really need it! On Sunday, February 13, 2005 at 10:17 am, Mike L wrote: >Since nobody has yet to spell it out step-by-step how to solve this issue, this is >exactly what I did, and the CD I created works perfectly. > >To resolve this failure, perform the following steps: > >1. Copy the entire contents of the Windows XP SPx CD to a folder on your hard drive. >2. Using a program like IsoBuster, extract the boot image from the XP cd. (or download >it here http://pchelplive.com/xp.img) >3. Open your CD burning software and create a new bootable CD. In this example I >am using Nero 6.x. >4. Under the Boot tab, select the boot image file (xp.img) and uncheck the “Enable >Expert Settings” option. >5. Under the ISO tab choose the settings as follows: > >Data Mode: Mode 1 >File System: ISO9660 only >File Name Length: Max of 11 = 8 + 3 chars (Level 1) >Character Set: DOS >Select “Allow path depth of more than 8 directories” >Select “Allow more than 255 characters in a path” >Select “Do not add the ‘;1’ ISO file version extension” > >6. Under the Label tab ensure that the title of the CD matches exactly with the original >CD. (Example: WXPCCP_EN) >7. Leave all other settings at their default value and click New. >8. Drag-n-drop all of the files from the folder where you copied the xp cd to into >the project. >9. Burn away. > >The critical setting is the Character Set. The default value for most CD burning >software is the ISO9660 character format. This is what causes the read errors. >The characters of ‘~’ and ‘-‘ have a different hex value in ISO9660 than DOS. > >Thanks!!! > >Mike >http://www.pchelplive.com [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 3:29 pm Posted by Mike L (2 messages posted) Open up Nero Burning Rom and use that instead. You most likely have it too. On Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 2:28 pm, J. wrote: >I'm using nero express 6.2, and I can't find this boot tab or iso tab that you speak >of. help me out a little more please! I really need it! > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 9:07 pm Posted by J. (17 messages posted) Thanks. I don't have it, but my buddy does. On Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 3:29 pm, Mike L wrote: >Open up Nero Burning Rom and use that instead. You most likely have it too. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: I READ the whole thread and this post was the most Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 10:57 pm Posted by 666 (2255 messages posted) No. Files with underscores in the i386 folder are compressed, so somefile.sy_ is not the same as somefile.sys. You should use the expand command (expand d:\i386\somefile.sy_ c:\windows\somefile.sys) instead. On Monday, January 17, 2005 at 10:24 am, Bri wrote: Can I simply copy said files to that folder, and rename them? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Friday, March 11, 2005 at 11:00 am Posted by J. (17 messages posted) Mike, I did EXACTLY as you typed, twice even. When I try and boot from the cd, I get a message similar to this: Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM: 1. Floppy Drive _ I hear the drive spinning, and then it doesn't load. If I hit a key on the keyboard, it just restarts. What's up w/ that? On Sunday, February 13, 2005 at 10:17 am, Mike L wrote: >Since nobody has yet to spell it out step-by-step how to solve this issue, this is >exactly what I did, and the CD I created works perfectly. > >To resolve this failure, perform the following steps: > >1. Copy the entire contents of the Windows XP SPx CD to a folder on your hard drive. >2. Using a program like IsoBuster, extract the boot image from the XP cd. (or download >it here http://pchelplive.com/xp.img) >3. Open your CD burning software and create a new bootable CD. In this example I >am using Nero 6.x. >4. Under the Boot tab, select the boot image file (xp.img) and uncheck the “Enable >Expert Settings” option. >5. Under the ISO tab choose the settings as follows: > >Data Mode: Mode 1 >File System: ISO9660 only >File Name Length: Max of 11 = 8 + 3 chars (Level 1) >Character Set: DOS >Select “Allow path depth of more than 8 directories” >Select “Allow more than 255 characters in a path” >Select “Do not add the ‘;1’ ISO file version extension” > >6. Under the Label tab ensure that the title of the CD matches exactly with the original >CD. (Example: WXPCCP_EN) >7. Leave all other settings at their default value and click New. >8. Drag-n-drop all of the files from the folder where you copied the xp cd to into >the project. >9. Burn away. > >The critical setting is the Character Set. The default value for most CD burning >software is the ISO9660 character format. This is what causes the read errors. >The characters of ‘~’ and ‘-‘ have a different hex value in ISO9660 than DOS. > >Thanks!!! > >Mike >http://www.pchelplive.com [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Wednesday, March 23, 2005 at 11:47 am Posted by M Coffey (1 messages posted) To solve this problem I just made a 2nd CD with all of the missing files and had the installation find the files during install process. The first 2 files, -y and -z .inf can be downloaded from many places on the web. The .wmz files are part of Windows media player. Although media player has then as the full filename instead of the truncated name with the ~. It'll be obvious what they are. I copied mine from a Windows ME computer running Media Player 7. The utopia.wav files are in the i386 folder just named different (utopia-1.wa_) I copied them and renamed them respectfully. Finally, the png files were replaced automatically. Seems after I installed DirectX9 they appeared but I can't say for positive that's where they came from. But I am 99% sure they did. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, March 28, 2005 at 10:18 pm Posted by Michael (2 messages posted) I am also having the missing file problem with installing Windows XP home and professional. So it isn't the image on the CDs. I got Windows Pro w/ SP2 installed but I notice that I have 192MB of RAM when I put in a 256MB stick. Bad memory, I'm not sure but I also agree with the point that the bus speed needs to be able to keep up with the processor speed. The AMD 2400 with a 200FSB may be the problem, I would think before assuming it is the memory. What I'm not sure is if I change the FSB to 333MHz and that don't work and I replace the memory with a new memory stick and that don't work. What can I do next to get Windows installed without "missing files" errors. The only thing that I can question next is the power supply. Can the power supply be behind this? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files - found a good solution Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 2:56 am Posted by Odie (1 messages posted) 1) copy entire CD to hard-dirve 2) run: extract cyclad-z.in_ 3) run: extract cyclom-y.in_ 4) ... etc.. for all files that install said were missing 5) burn new CD 6) install off new CD - works with new missing files! You can find extract.exe in any old DOS OS (or maybe on the web) On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process Monday, April 25, 2005 at 12:27 pm Posted by PCGUY67 (1 messages posted) Thanks for setting us straight. I had the same issue while installing XP SP1a, but I had just upgraded the memory when this issue arose. I did just as you suggested and reinstalled the old memory and the install completed without any more missing files. Thanks for the schooling. On Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 10:42 pm, Nesmira wrote: >palab.ttf = 1,,434004,,,,,22,0,0,,1,22 > >Well, I found that file list. It's in i386/layout.inf >At the top is a quick sample of what the file listings are. 22 basically means install >to the > >fonts directory. 434,004 is the uncompressed file size and yes all this stuff is >listed in > >uncompressed form. You can use expand.exe to uncompress these files. They are ALL >valid files > >and they do work. Which once again eliminates any ideas of pirated or corrupt files. > >So now that leaves me to believe that the files are not be copied properly by the >kernel. It's > >the load environment. I'll just make it boot differently. Hopefully it works. > >Here's a couple cool sites for bootable stuff: >http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-create-multi-os-cd-2.htm >http://bootcd.narod.ru/ntmultibootcd_e.htm > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 1:47 pm Posted by TBone (1 messages posted) >bottom line these files don't matter >but i saw something on the web about this being >associated with bogus copy of xp We are actually having this happen with our brand-new Dell SC1425 server as well. It came without an OS, so we are trying to create the OS using Dell's server CD and instructions and the same problem came up. According to Dell support its a known bug. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, August 6, 2005 at 7:03 am Posted by Jamie (2 messages posted) Here is my scenario. Same issue, some files couldn't copy from CD to harddrive for installation. (many of the same ones listed above in other posts) I took a diskette to another windows XP machine, and copied the final expanded version of these files from that working machine to the diskette. Once the installing machine finished copying the rest of the files, I booted up on a boot diskette, copied those files to the appropriate directories, then rebooted without diskette and continued with the installation. That seemed to work, although I have not had the xp opsys running very long to know if any problems will popup. The only files I couldnt find were the utopia*.wav files, but hey, who needs those? :) So far so good, hopefully that helps anyone that might be in the same boat. On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 1:47 pm, TBone wrote: >>bottom line these files don't matter >>but i saw something on the web about this being >>associated with bogus copy of xp > >We are actually having this happen with our brand-new Dell SC1425 server as well. >It came without an OS, so we are trying to create the OS using Dell's server CD and >instructions and the same problem came up. According to Dell support its a known >bug. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Tuesday, October 18, 2005 at 8:45 am Posted by John (1 messages posted) We are having the same problem loading Windows 2003 Enterprise on a Dell 1850. The files cyclad-z.inf and cyclom-y.inf can not be found. The server appears to work just fine anyway. Where was the link you mentioned and do they say if there is a fix around or other problems?? On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 1:47 pm, TBone wrote: >>bottom line these files don't matter >>but i saw something on the web about this being >>associated with bogus copy of xp > >We are actually having this happen with our brand-new Dell SC1425 server as well. >It came without an OS, so we are trying to create the OS using Dell's server CD and >instructions and the same problem came up. According to Dell support its a known >bug. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Thursday, October 20, 2005 at 9:38 am Posted by John (1 messages posted) One of my co-workers found the two inf files on another server. He wrote... The two missing files are drivers for products from the Cyclades Corporation. Cyclad-z.inf is for a console server/terminal server device and the cyclom-y.inf file is for an add-on multi-port serial card. I don’t think we intend on using either of these devices in the near future. I doubt we are ever going to run across that hardware for our servers. If we did, I would just install the drivers from elsewhere. Therefore, I'm finished with this particular issue. If any of you only had the two files that did not copy, and your server is working just fine, I wouldn't worry about it either. John On Tuesday, October 18, 2005 at 8:45 am, John wrote: >We are having the same problem loading Windows 2003 Enterprise on a Dell 1850. The >files cyclad-z.inf and cyclom-y.inf can not be found. The server appears to work >just fine anyway. Where was the link you mentioned and do they say if there is a >fix around or other problems?? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Saturday, November 26, 2005 at 11:50 pm Posted by Joe Whitehead (2 messages posted) I've seen 3 errors that are described by previous posters in a shop I work at. If it's specific files (the ones with ~ or - becoming _), then you need to just copy the files to a folder on the hard drive, open Layout.inf in edit, and search for "~1" and then "sv-" and finally "cycl" in the text. Everytime you see one of the files that isn't copying, just change the Layout.inf file's list of files to match! Simple to do, almost impossible to have known to look there. An alternative is to rename the files back to their original names after copying. The 2nd kind of error is most certainly caused by conflicts of some sort while copying the files. I've seen fresh disk's that worked great on 10 computers, but some models will randomly hiccup on files, then usually crash to blue screen right before windows would normally try to login for the first time. Windows 2000 would likely do the same thing. What sucks is that on a HP I've worked on, you can only get XP Home restore disks even though it came with 2000 - which is an upgrade from Home edition. :P Since it wouldn't let us reinstall 2000, this seems unfair. If a disk is scratched then no computer will install from it and you need to make another backup. (You DO use only your backups, right?) It's hard trying to explain to your boss that you can't restore his computer because your disk is no longer working and you don't even have a copy of the i386 folder to work with. It's easy to determine which is happening if you follow this rule: Random names=hardware related. Specific names but not "-" or "~" in filenames means disk is dirty or poorly manufactured/written. Names with specific charactors may be drive firmware, BIOS or DOS not seeing the "-" or "~" in the name. On Thursday, October 20, 2005 at 9:38 am, John wrote: >One of my co-workers found the two inf files on another server. He wrote... > >The two missing files are drivers for products from the Cyclades Corporation. Cyclad-z.inf >is for a console server/terminal server device and the cyclom-y.inf file is for an >add-on multi-port serial card. > >I don’t think we intend on using either of these devices in the near future. > >I doubt we are ever going to run across that hardware for our servers. If we did, >I would just install the drivers from elsewhere. Therefore, I'm finished with this >particular issue. If any of you only had the two files that did not copy, and your >server is working just fine, I wouldn't worry about it either. > >John > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] The final fix! Friday, December 2, 2005 at 2:50 pm Posted by SyreneD (1 messages posted) Okay! Here is the bottom line on this one. There are 3 different issues that people are experiencing here and they are getting them confused. 1. Random files will not copy from the CD. 2. Random files will not copy from the CD. 3. A certain subset of files will not copy from the CD. Reasons: 1. The install CD is damaged and therefore the files cannot be read properly from the CD. 2. The computers RAM is bad or the wrong speed/type and therefore even though the CD is OK the files are being corrupted during the transfer due to memory issue. 3. The CD was burned in the incorrect format therefore certain filenames including the - and ~ characters won't copy. (a list of those files can be found here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=11436&st=0&p=79492&#entry79492) Hope this help sort out the confusion! [Reply or follow-up to this message] Yeah, those are the causes of failure Friday, December 2, 2005 at 6:26 pm Posted by Joe Whitehead (2 messages posted) Thanks, I forgot to even think of changing the subject. Sorry if I wasn't clear - Those ARE the causes of 99.99% of the failures. [Reply or follow-up to this message] A simple but important tip Tuesday, February 28, 2006 at 6:35 pm Posted by kp1981 (1 messages posted) Well, I've been struggeling for two nights with this file problem. I haven't read every single post in this long thread, so I'm sorry if someone has already written this. The problem about files that cannot be found is not only due to burning problems. Many of you work from an .iso file and you either burn it or extract it to a hdd using isobuster (I think the same applies with a .bin file). I recommend extracting it by means of isobuster and then burn the files. Here's the IMPORTANT thing: When opening the .iso in isobuster there are two possible images of the content of the .iso file. The first is next to a red 'iso'-sign and the other is a blue box with arrows. You need to extract the image from the BLUE box. In that image the file names are correct. Once extracted I recommend installing windows from that location or copy the files to another harddrive (if you are to install on another computer). If you need to burn the extracted files, follow the instruction in the above posts (although I haven't tried it and cannot confirm if it works). Boot up with a win98 bootdisk or similar, and start up \I386\winnt.exe Hope this helps, good luck. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, May 22, 2006 at 4:19 pm Posted by TDPepper (1 messages posted) The error is caused by creating a custom installation CD-ROM and burning the CD-ROM using ISO-9660 format instead of Joliet format, which allows the hyphen (–) character. In the future, make sure you use Joilet format to burn the CD-ROM and not DOS/ISO-9660. On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files/ solution ...hmm? Friday, May 26, 2006 at 1:30 pm Posted by E.Pluribus.Unum (1 messages posted) 1.- My Xp works better without them files. 2.- Solutions, workarounds, copy & paste ... why? It only take a minute to apply the correct settings to ISO Buster !!! It's kinda like this: [Options] > [Image File] > you figure it out, little Einsteins. *cough* [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files/ solution ...hmm? Thursday, July 27, 2006 at 8:07 am Posted by stavros (1 messages posted) I finally got it to work!, renaming files didnt work, and there wasnt an option to relax iso restrictions in nero, there was in the earlier versions but i couldnt get it to recognise my burner, so i tried the burn program record now 6.5 and it worked, just open the program and the setup options, then click on data/advanced,and select the following: mode: 2xa, file system: iso level 2, and then burned a working xp home edition legal backup to protect my original which id copied onto my hard drive [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 8:12 am Posted by Larry Crowell (1 messages posted) Please help I’m so confused. It is Tuesday, Feb. 6, 2007 @ 10:13 AM I am trying to reload my OS (WXP Pro 2002 SP2) to an IBM 6350 26U NetVista Tower. I have just installed a new mother board, an exact replica of the old one and only after several install failures did I install a new HDD going from a 40 GB Maxtor to an 80 GB Maxtor. During the third stage of my install I get a failure to install certain files message it asks me to press enter to try again which never works or hit esc to skip this file. After hitting esc several times skipping a different file each time until finally it says this install was unsuccessful due to missing files hit F3 to quit. I have even tried using a different CD ROM getting the same results Please any help will be greatly appreciated. On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 9:30 am, kristin elizabeth wrote: >I just reinstalled XP again on my computer...it couldnt load about 14 different files...cyclad-z.inf, >cyclom-y.inf the rest were some wmz,wav and png files...my question is...how important >are they and how do I reload (where do they go) them without reinstalling again...im >not too concerned about the wmz,wav and png just those inf's [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Tuesday, February 6, 2007 at 9:23 am Posted by MartinM (5686 messages posted) Please take this feedback in the contrsuctive spirit in which its meant. Most people reading this forum will not see this extra post at the end of a very long thread from 2002 ! I would start a new thread if I were you and then you'll likely get a response. BTW Sorry I don't have much practical help to offer except it sounds to me as if your CD reader might be defective or the reading head is dirty. Just a thought. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, March 19, 2007 at 11:19 pm Posted by Bart (3 messages posted) Hello everyone... took me 3 days and planty of CD's to burn in order to finally find the working solution. I also susspected the naming issues rather than the hardware (but as someone mentioned earlier there are multiple issues that seem to cause similar problems - my was the cycl...-z.in_ file etc. like it is mentioned many times in this thread). What I did (as I said earlier I spent several days and wasted many CD-Roms) is I used Mike's method with the freeware software called: ImgBurn but I had to select Level 2 (31 characters as opposed to 8.3 - somehow when I was selecting 8.3 it was still truncating one folder/file which I never found which one it was, but at least this software let's you know that there were some names changed from the originals!). Good luck to everyone... hope it helps and... Mike - many thanks !!! On Sunday, February 13, 2005 at 10:17 am, Mike L wrote: >Since nobody has yet to spell it out step-by-step how to solve this issue, this is >exactly what I did, and the CD I created works perfectly. > >To resolve this failure, perform the following steps: > >1. Copy the entire contents of the Windows XP SPx CD to a folder on your hard drive. >2. Using a program like IsoBuster, extract the boot image from the XP cd. (or download >it here http://pchelplive.com/xp.img) >3. Open your CD burning software and create a new bootable CD. In this example I >am using Nero 6.x. >4. Under the Boot tab, select the boot image file (xp.img) and uncheck the “Enable >Expert Settings” option. >5. Under the ISO tab choose the settings as follows: > >Data Mode: Mode 1 >File System: ISO9660 only >File Name Length: Max of 11 = 8 + 3 chars (Level 1) >Character Set: DOS >Select “Allow path depth of more than 8 directories” >Select “Allow more than 255 characters in a path” >Select “Do not add the ‘;1’ ISO file version extension” > >6. Under the Label tab ensure that the title of the CD matches exactly with the original >CD. (Example: WXPCCP_EN) >7. Leave all other settings at their default value and click New. >8. Drag-n-drop all of the files from the folder where you copied the xp cd to into >the project. >9. Burn away. > >The critical setting is the Character Set. The default value for most CD burning >software is the ISO9660 character format. This is what causes the read errors. >The characters of ‘~’ and ‘-‘ have a different hex value in ISO9660 than DOS. > >Thanks!!! > >Mike >http://www.pchelplive.com [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, March 19, 2007 at 11:44 pm Posted by Bart (3 messages posted) BTW. Guys, there is something that no one mentioned in this forum. I found this web page that is GREAT and describes how to dump winxp ONLY from the preloaded computer to the CD so you could do the fresh install of XP ONLY... It works for me after a little bit of thinking.... and of course this is how I got into the issues with -z.in_ files and so on... Anyway, take a look it is really helpful if you want to get rid of all ads and not needed software... http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml Oh... right in my case I have Media Center Edition and after few screwed CD's finally found the way to back up the MCE too... Basically follow the link above to do what is described in there and then on a separate CD copy everything you find in the cmpnents directory from the preloaded computer. If you don't do it, installer will ask you for the CD with MCE... if you ignore it you will get win XP pro without the MCE components only (as far as I know). Have fun. Good luck again :-) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Monday, March 19, 2007 at 11:50 pm Posted by Bart (3 messages posted) Oh yes... and just so you would know... I am doing it on a new computer with fully legal win xp media edition version and I am not downloading anything (other than the freeware software to burn the CD because I did not have any). The thing that I basically did is a "recovery disc" without extra stuff that I did not need at all... OK, that is it folks... [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: missing files Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 10:48 am Posted by Stephen G (1 messages posted) I'm having a lot of nasty problems with this. I just built a new PC after a few years, and to my dismay, I could not find the disks for any of the operating systems I owned.... so, I created a new CD that contained the I386 folder within C:\Windows, and the files within the recovery drive I have on this computer. I started a dos boot on my new PC, and got access to my CD drive. I run the Winnt file within the I386 folder, and windows XP installation begins. during the file copy process, there are a few files missing however... I am missing these files: cyclad-z.inf cyclom-y.inf utopia~1.wav utopia~2.wav utopia~3.wav utopia~4.wav sv-262e1.png sv-262e3.png sv-262e4.png I'm sure that the .wav and .png files have nothing to do with my problem, but I"m not sure about the .inf files. During the actual installation process, it gets to where it says "10 minutes remaining" and freezes. I thought it was just running slowly, as the splash screens changed, and the little loading bar thing in the bottom right kept going, so I left it on over night. When I woke up... "10 minutes remaining" This is very aggrivating. please, if you know what to do, or where to find these files so that I can recreate my CD... please tell me. [Reply or follow-up to this message] setup wizard Monday, May 12, 2008 at 9:45 am Posted by Daniel O'Leary (1 messages posted) Limewire 4.16.7setup wizard will not continue. On Wednesday, May 28, 2003 at 8:12 am, ekoo wrote: >cyclad-z.inf >cyclad-y.inf >headsp~1.wmz >minipl~1.wmz >utopia~1.wav >utopia~2.wav >utopia~3.wav >utopia~4.wav >sv-262e1.png >sv-262e3.png >sv-262e4.pn >those file were missing ...when I use cr-r or rw by cdbootable installation,but I >can find them in windows. > >If you know about this problem EML me > >..my English ... > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: setup wizard Monday, May 12, 2008 at 11:14 am Posted by 666 (2255 messages posted) Daniel O'Leary wrote: Limewire 4.16.7setup wizard will not continue. Saved by the bell! Forget about Limewire. KCeasy is a much better client for the Gnutella network. Open source, and it connects to Ares in addition to Gnutella. In contrast to Limewire, KCeasy is free and open source. And it doesn't have the 30-char search query cap that Limewire has. ______________ make windows xp behave [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 9:15 am Posted by w chung (1 messages posted) Hi....I'm sending you this message in relationship to something you posted on annoyances.org almost 4 years ago. As you can see by the quoted text below... this issue has to do with "incorrectly copied files" when clean installing windows xp. With the exception of a few files, the same files consistently display this error; important ones like ntfs.sys and query.dll. I read through the other posts in the thread and tried burning a cd in DOS (even though your post said it didn't matter)...and you were right. It didn't. So I was just wondering if you ever reached a conclusion with your testing, and found a solution to this problem. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. On Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 10:42 pm, Nesmira wrote: >palab.ttf = 1,,434004,,,,,22,0,0,,1,22 > >Well, I found that file list. It's in i386/layout.inf >At the top is a quick sample of what the file listings are. 22 basically means install >to the > >fonts directory. 434,004 is the uncompressed file size and yes all this stuff is >listed in > >uncompressed form. You can use expand.exe to uncompress these files. They are ALL >valid files > >and they do work. Which once again eliminates any ideas of pirated or corrupt files. > >So now that leaves me to believe that the files are not be copied properly by the >kernel. It's > >the load environment. I'll just make it boot differently. Hopefully it works. > >Here's a couple cool sites for bootable stuff: >http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-create-multi-os-cd-2.htm >http://bootcd.narod.ru/ntmultibootcd_e.htm > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: XP Install Missing Files: Boot Process Saturday, November 15, 2008 at 10:10 am Posted by KingG (1 messages posted) Thanks PCGUY67 lol nice advice man i just switched the low memory one n it runs straight without no problems. the new mem is to fast lol anyway JUST SWITCH AND TRY THE LOW PERFORME MEM LOL, THAT HOW I DID LOL. SRR FOR MY GRAMMA HEHEH ( im vietnamese guys ^^) On Monday, April 25, 2005 at 12:27 pm, PCGUY67 wrote: >Thanks for setting us straight. I had the same issue while installing XP SP1a, but >I had just upgraded the memory when this issue arose. I did just as you suggested >and reinstalled the old memory and the install completed without any more missing >files. Thanks for the schooling. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows XP Discussion Forum