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Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game, the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem. How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these problems!!!

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YOU ARE pFUKED.

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You are about answering on Random Fatal Question Trap :-)

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One of the online XP upgredes curred the "recovered from a serious..." Can't help with the rest of the problem. Sorry.


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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Nice machine. Your system probably has a lingering hardware/bios issue or needs an updated driver. You should visit http://windowsupdate.com/. It will tell you if your system needs any critical security fixes and will offer newer drivers. And if your system crashes again, you should accept the offer to report the problem to Microsoft. Their website will analyze the crash dump for free. It's a good way to see if your crash is due to a well-known problem. Good luck.


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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If none of the software tips given fix the problem, I have seen this happen in several environments with hardware problems. RAM could be bad, run a "burn in" on it. Processor fan could be out or failing, check CPU temp. Check BIOS to make sure CPU and RAM are set at their proper speeds.


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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Try flashing the BIOS on your mobo, CD writer etc.

I had a similar problem with a Lite-On CD writer - random reboots, BSODs etc. - which 
was solved when I flashed the bios to the latest version.






On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top 
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with 
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual 
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game, 
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells 
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart 
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells 
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft 
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.  
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded 
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these 
>problems!!! 

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This sounds like a power supply issue. I don't think 300 watts is enough for that amount of hardware. Try getting a bigger power supply! Or I might just be talking out of my arse. You could try driver updates too.


On Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 11:48 pm, Alexander Courtis wrote:

>Try flashing the BIOS on your mobo, CD writer etc.
>
>I had a similar problem with a Lite-On CD writer - random reboots, BSODs etc. - 
which 
>was solved when I flashed the bios to the latest version.
>
>

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hey, the same thing happens to me. its not the actualy hardware, but maybe bios or drivers. i figure its a software thing, but i have no idea please let me know what you did to slove it if you do. i have a p4 1.8 lite-on dvd and yamaha burner with a radeon 9000 pro thanks in advance


On Sunday, October 6, 2002 at 11:31 am, leet_llama wrote:
>This sounds like a power supply issue. I don't think 300 watts is enough for that
>amount of hardware. Try getting a bigger power supply!
>
>Or I might just be talking out of my arse.
>
>You could try driver updates too.
>
>

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I am having the same issue :P
It seems to be completely random. Sometimes it happens when the computer is playing 
a game (this would be understandable in certain situations). Sometimes it happens 
while listening to music in Winamp.

I currently run:
	AMD Athlon T-Bird 1.333GHz
	Asus A7V133 Revision 1009
	384MB PC133 SDRAM
	Geforce4 ti4200 128MB
	(also happened with Geforce2 GTS 64MB)
	Sound Blaster Platinum 5.1
	400W Power Supply
	(also happened with 300W Power Supply)
	Windows 2000 SP2

I see the following warnings in Event Viewer:
	System Log: The F: disk is at or near capacity.  You may need to delete some files
	System Log: An error was detected on device \Device\CdRom1 during a paging operation
	Application Log: WMI ADAP was unable to process the PerfProc performance library 
due to a time violation in the collect function

- I do not run WinMx or Mcafee softwares
- My computer is running at the correct temperature (PC: 107.5F)
- I have two additional 4" Case fans mounted on the side opposite my processor
- This did not happen after a new hardware install

- It could be RAM, but that will be checked tomorrow Jan 8 (Im receiving a 512MB 
PC133 Dimm which will be installed)

Don't know what else to include. Thanks Guys, any help is appreciated.
	

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try and set your bios settings to the ones on this page ,i use ge4 and this solved my random reboot problem


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!! :-D http://www.technologyvault.co.uk/geforce/faq.php?display=faq&nr=27&catnr=2&prog=gef&lang=en

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Two years ago I had a system custom built. It was awesome for about a year. Then I downloaded some patches for XP on the Microsoft web site. My system went nuts, shutting on and off by itself. XP was reinstalled but would then occasionally crash. Not being able to detect disk drive for days or even a week afterwards when it did. The system was finally taken for repair to the twit that built it. I am told the hard drive is shot (It was allegedly tested in another system). I then discover he put in a 100 MHz Ram with two 133s. I go elsewhere and a Western Digital drive is installed. The new installer puts in Win 98. It worked fine for a day, then suddenly shuts off with a video game – It first shut down after playing the game for hours, then more frequently as time went on. I tried playing mp3’s and the system shut down at random. I get frequent error messages, lack of memory, and invalid Opcode in VDX quartz etc… So back goes in XP. Audio drivers are uninstalled updated and reinstalled, a new 64MB video card is installed, and it runs great. . . for a day. Then the system shuts off by itself a few minuets after the screen saver kicks in. I try to analyze or defrag the drive the computer reboots. What the hell?? If it’s a power supply issue (250w), why did it suddenly puke after installing XP patches. If it’s the Bios I’ve been hosed by two different so-called computer experts. I’ve also recently been told to install another sound card and modem! Why? They worked great before, why won’t the system hum now? I’m currently using an ECS P6VAP-A+ mainboard and an 866 PIII processor. No burner, a full tower and plenty of ventilation. What in the world is wrong with this thing??


On Tuesday, January 7, 2003 at 1:23 pm, TobyCloud wrote:

>I am having the same issue :P
>It seems to be completely random. Sometimes it happens when the computer is playing 
>a game (this would be understandable in certain situations). Sometimes it happens 
>while listening to music in Winamp.
>
>I currently run:
>	AMD Athlon T-Bird 1.333GHz
>	Asus A7V133 Revision 1009
>	384MB PC133 SDRAM
>	Geforce4 ti4200 128MB
>	(also happened with Geforce2 GTS 64MB)
>	Sound Blaster Platinum 5.1
>	400W Power Supply
>	(also happened with 300W Power Supply)
>	Windows 2000 SP2
>
>I see the following warnings in Event Viewer:
>	System Log: The F: disk is at or near capacity.  You may need to delete some files
>	System Log: An error was detected on device \Device\CdRom1 during a paging operation
>	Application Log: WMI ADAP was unable to process the PerfProc performance library 
>due to a time violation in the collect function
>
>- I do not run WinMx or Mcafee softwares
>- My computer is running at the correct temperature (PC: 107.5F)
>- I have two additional 4" Case fans mounted on the side opposite my processor
>- This did not happen after a new hardware install
>
>- It could be RAM, but that will be checked tomorrow Jan 8 (Im receiving a 512MB 
>PC133 Dimm which will be installed)
>
>Don't know what else to include. Thanks Guys, any help is appreciated.
>	

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I have a suggestion...a longshot, but a suggestion. Make sure the heatsink is intalled on top of the processor in the right direction. There is usually a ridge on the bottom that is supposed to line up with the ridge next to the processor. After flipping the heatsink 180 degrees, my computer worked just fine. I have seen this problem in 2 computers now...and flipping the heat sink seemed to fix it. Hope this helps.


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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yah i have the problem where my comp shuts down well playing games, i want to kill somthin, ive tried everyihing i can think of and everyone else, i have the same setup as this other kid who dosent have the prob, my sugestion would be to buy quality parts build a new comp and burn ur old one like the devil comp it is, im sure it would help, and how could it hurt


On Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 7:57 pm, MG wrote:
>I have a suggestion...a longshot, but a suggestion. Make sure the heatsink is intalled
>on top of the processor in the right direction. There is usually a ridge on the
>bottom that is supposed to line up with the ridge next to the processor. After flipping
>the heatsink 180 degrees, my computer worked just fine. I have seen this problem
>in 2 computers now...and flipping the heat sink seemed to fix it. Hope this helps.
>
>

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hi I've got the same problem I think it's due to a HDD overheat problem HDD doesn't like temperatures > 55°, it makes the pc reboot or power down i noticed that it only happend when i was running windows no matter under linux ....

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AMD 1000 350 watt PSU Radion 9000 XP Pro with SP1 After reading through all the posts, i tried the solution of 3rd party drivers, n weay-hey! So, just delete ATI control panel and device drivers through the add/remove program panel (i didnt have to delete any registry entrys) Then when you restart, install the 3rd party driver, n voila, nae problems. Really helps take my mind of Scotlands farcicle result the night lol. http://drivers.driverheaven.net/downloads.php?ver=XP81 Above is the third party driver used. Hope this helps. (Cheers tae who suggested this in the first place) adios!


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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aye noo the mofo willny run 3dmark 2001 lol och weel. it just restarts (as opposed to the BSOD) it dont seam to care much for what the bios is set to either, coz i've been muckin around wi that n still no difference. anyone any suggestions?


On Wednesday, April 30, 2003 at 2:44 pm, Pablo wrote:
>AMD 1000 350 watt PSU Radion 9000 XP Pro with SP1 After reading through all the posts,
>i tried the solution of 3rd party drivers, n weay-hey! So, just delete ATI control
>panel and device drivers through the add/remove program panel (i didnt have to delete
>any registry entrys) Then when you restart, install the 3rd party driver, n voila,
>nae problems. Really helps take my mind of Scotlands farcicle result the night lol.
>
>
>http://drivers.driverheaven.net/downloads.php?ver=XP81
>
>
>
>Above is the third party driver used. Hope this helps. (Cheers tae who suggested
>this in the first place) adios!
>
>
>

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Sounds like a driverproblem. Should be gone if you update (all) your drivers. I had a problem like it when configuring a USB-driver for a project. Good luck!


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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With reference to the "paging" part, try turning off your pagefile, (right click "my computer" then properties.) click on each drive with a page file and set to "no page file" restart computer. If you have 512mb or more ram you don't need to put one back, but you can, if less than 512, you should. The paging file itself often gets corrupted, especially during OS upgrades etc..


On Tuesday, January 7, 2003 at 1:23 pm, TobyCloud wrote:

>I am having the same issue :P
>It seems to be completely random. Sometimes it happens when the computer is playing 
>a game (this would be understandable in certain situations). Sometimes it happens 
>while listening to music in Winamp.
>
>I currently run:
>	AMD Athlon T-Bird 1.333GHz
>	Asus A7V133 Revision 1009
>	384MB PC133 SDRAM
>	Geforce4 ti4200 128MB
>	(also happened with Geforce2 GTS 64MB)
>	Sound Blaster Platinum 5.1
>	400W Power Supply
>	(also happened with 300W Power Supply)
>	Windows 2000 SP2
>
>I see the following warnings in Event Viewer:
>	System Log: The F: disk is at or near capacity.  You may need to delete some files
>	System Log: An error was detected on device \Device\CdRom1 during a paging operation
>	Application Log: WMI ADAP was unable to process the PerfProc performance library 
>due to a time violation in the collect function
>
>- I do not run WinMx or Mcafee softwares
>- My computer is running at the correct temperature (PC: 107.5F)
>- I have two additional 4" Case fans mounted on the side opposite my processor
>- This did not happen after a new hardware install
>
>- It could be RAM, but that will be checked tomorrow Jan 8 (Im receiving a 512MB 
>PC133 Dimm which will be installed)
>
>Don't know what else to include. Thanks Guys, any help is appreciated.
>	

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I have an AMD1.8ghz cpu, 512kb ram, and a 64mb abit graphics card (nvidia chipset) on a asus a7s333mb. whcih i used to run on xp pro but i had all the same problems and more a message came up couple of times saying the cpu hung i got so pissed of with xp i've gone back to 2000 which seems to be running ok


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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Just downloaded the most recent 5-6 Win XP upgrades and now IE Explorer shuts down every 10 minutes while surfing the I-net. PC is Asus A7V133 with an Athlon C 1333 with all the parts working all the time. Tossed out conflicting software long ago. Hardware tempuratures good etc. - has been since installing Win XP about 2 years ago. I'm going to uninstall relevent XP upgrades starting with most recent until everything works again. Ron


On Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 1:49 am, Clifford wrote:
>Two years ago I had a system custom built. It was awesome for about a year. Then
>I downloaded some patches for XP on the Microsoft web site. My system went nuts,
>shutting on and off by itself. XP was reinstalled but would then occasionally crash.
>Not being able to detect disk drive for days or even a week afterwards when it did.
>The system was finally taken for repair to the twit that built it. I am told the
>hard drive is shot (It was allegedly tested in another system). I then discover he
>put in a 100 MHz Ram with two 133s. I go elsewhere and a Western Digital drive is
>installed. The new installer puts in Win 98. It worked fine for a day, then suddenly
>shuts off with a video game – It first shut down after playing the game for hours,
>then more frequently as time went on. I tried playing mp3’s and the system shut down
>at random. I get frequent error messages, lack of memory, and invalid Opcode in VDX
>quartz etc… So back goes in XP. Audio drivers are uninstalled updated and reinstalled,
>a new 64MB video card is installed, and it runs great. . . for a day. Then the system
>shuts off by itself a few minuets after the screen saver kicks in. I try to analyze
>or defrag the drive the computer reboots. What the hell?? If it’s a power supply
>issue (250w), why did it suddenly puke after installing XP patches. If it’s the Bios
>I’ve been hosed by two different so-called computer experts. I’ve also recently been
>told to install another sound card and modem! Why? They worked great before, why
>won’t the system hum now? I’m currently using an ECS P6VAP-A+ mainboard and an 866
>PIII processor. No burner, a full tower and plenty of ventilation. What in the world
>is wrong with this thing??
>
>

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No solutions, but I can relate. I've been ripped off by so many "experts" at $40 
to $75 an hour that I hate to admit it. In most cases I knew more than they did. 
I learned that returning it the second it screwed up again might get them to fix 
it for no additional charges, but places like Comp USA want to tag it and hold it 
for ransom for bogus reasons. So buy from Costco! A full year coverage on everything. 
They don't fix anything, but give you a full 
hassle-free cash refund. They have better systems than you described for under $500. 
I paid $1,300 for one with a 2.4 MHz Intel Pentium 4 CPU, 512K Ram, 120GB HD, a CD/RW, 
a DVD CD burner, a 1MB video card and a 17" thin plasma screen monitor. In the old 
days I once paid about $500 to get a 300MB hard drive installed in an old 286 (was 
it older than that?) and $250 for a 15 inch color monitor. 

Suggested system requirements are never enough to properly run your OS. Even with 
my overachiever I sometimes get a stagger or pause when I don't want one. When online, 
pop-up ad blockers are essential because they butt in and will screw up applications 
when you least expect it regardless of your machine.

I've used Microsoft even before they had Windows and think XP has been their best 
offering to date. I've never had a crash that I couldn't fix with XP, but had a couple 
in earlier times that totaled out my computer. Back then, backups were time-consuming, 
unreliable, costly, complicated and totally needed. Today it's easier and cheaper 
to add a second hard drive with unlimited storage space. With XP I've never had to 
resort to restoring lost data or files. Hardware and software has improved but spammers, 
hackers and legit advertisers are screwing up a lot of things. There needs to be 
more laws or more enforcement of existing ones. I digress. 


 






On Thursday, November 6, 2003 at 3:19 pm, Ronno wrote:
>Just downloaded the most recent 5-6 Win XP upgrades and now IE Explorer shuts down 
>every 10 minutes while surfing the I-net. PC is Asus A7V133 with an Athlon C 1333 
>with all the parts working all the time. Tossed out conflicting software long ago. 
>Hardware tempuratures good etc. - has been since installing Win XP about 2 years 
>ago. I'm going to uninstall relevent XP upgrades starting with most recent until 
>everything works again. Ron
>
>

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I came to this page because I was looking to help out a friend. but some of the sugestions here have enraged me. Sugestions that a Radeon GFX card is to blame for example. I myself have been running a Radeon 9000 128MB since it came out and have had zero problems. my friend however who is running on-board GFX is having restart issues! a simple case of getting your facts right before sugesting people to buy your brand of choice apears to be called for! anyway, back to the initial subgect, It would apear to me that the main cause of this symptom is that there is a problem with the m/board dealing with I/O commands. However this can be caused by several factors: mem' failure; insufiscient power; over-heating C.P.U.; screwed win' system files; or the I/O control part of the m/board has become falty. Drivers may also be a factor...in that they are the software interface for your devices I/O operations. If you are having restart problems before getting into windows then Drivers seem to be least likely of the problems. What I say is to replace each possible factor(One at a time) from a retail outlet near you, untill you find the component that is at fault(return each part in turn after the testing process) once you have found the offending part return it and re-purchase from a cheaper source.

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Ryan, please open YOUR eyes! My message and the one you thought you were responding to are not the same. I wouldn't know a 128MB Radeon GFX card from my NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200 that only has a paltry 64MB if they both bit me in the as_. By coincidence, I can't run some cool ATI-Radeon demos a friend sent me. Either my card isn't worthy, or the ATI demo driver is proprietary to ATI computer owners. Are they afraid that if I got their demo driver the graphics might look just as good with my video card and 17" plasma monitor as it does on my friends? I don't think the message I was responding to had any mention of video cards either. It seems that you were so enraged you lost track of where you were. Man, "annoyed" may be an understatement with computer problems sometimes, but becoming "enraged" is saved for things like walking into your bedroom and finding a strange naked man who is uglier than you with your woman. Worse yet, with a woman who is uglier than you.

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the problem may be ur power supply at least for a pentium 4 2ghz and more with more components intstalled on ur pc at least change ur power supply for a 350 watts..cuz the 300 watts only work for natural play on PC

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I am having a simmilar problem with my main computer system, is is a dual 866mhz 
P3 with 2gb memory. I think it is a driver issue but I have tryed many diffrent drivers 
for the various devices. I use this system for video editing, and at the time I built 
it 3 years ago was fairly high end. Only recent change to the system(3 months ago) 
was to pull out a 2nd TX4 with 4 60GB maxtor drives and put in a GIGAbit Ethernet 
card. but hte problems started befor that. they were just ocationaly, now they happen 
sometimes a  few times a day.

WINXP SP2
CPU: 2x 866mhz P3
RAM: 4x512 PC133 ECC PARITY
MOBO: ASUS CUV4X-DLS
VIDEO : ATI RADEION 9200(DUAL HEAD) AGP
           : ATI TV WONDER PCI
SOUND: SB AUDIGY
SCSI    : ADAPTEC2940UW (SONY CDR920, SONY CDR296, Creative DVDRAM, PIONNER 24xcd, 
SONY DAT5001)
RAID1 : PROMISE LOGIC TX4 (4x 80GB MAXTOR)
RAID2 : PROMISE LOGIC SX4000 (4x60GB MAXTOR)
NIC  : DLINK DCE-530 GIGABIT
IDE0 : 60GB MAXTOR
IDE1 :120GB MAXTOR
IDE2 : Pionner DVRa07
IDE3 : 120GB MAXTOR

PS1: 450w ATX that powers the system board, and the directly connected IDE devices
PS2: 400w AT, Powers RAIDED IDE DRIVES AND THE COOLING SYSTEM(lots of fans)
PS3: 300w AT, Powers SCSI DEVICES







On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:

>I have a question about Top 

>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:


>

>

>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with 

>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual 

>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game, 

>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells 

>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart 

>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells 

>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft 

>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.  

>

>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded 

>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these 

>problems!!! 
 

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I have wrestled with fatal errors that cause either a restart or a blue screen of death. Apparently this is a common problem with Windows XP, supposedly the "robust" version of Windows. A search of the web shows that this problem is fairly widespread and a real pain to isolate and fix. It's either your hardware or your drivers according to Microsoft. Thanks a lot, it's either my hardware or software, that's very helpful. It could be multiple drivers, each causing a shutdown. It could be RAM memory, it could be an overheating CPU or hard disk. So there is no one solution. But here is what I did and it seemed to help. The problem seems to stem from "unsigned" (un-approved) drivers being used with XP. Most if not all users migrated their programs from Windows 98, importing drivers along with it. 1) Set XP so that it will alert you when an unsigned driver is being installed, but not otherwise. Go to Sytem>>Devices, and FOR EACH device (all 30 or so) update the driver. You will be surprised that some of the more arcane ones (e.g. Intel bus or USB drivers) are updated. Otherwise it will just tell you there is no better driver. These are the drivers you use 95% of the time so it will resolve 95% of your fatal events if the drivers were causing them. 2) If the hardware is the source look for overheating and memory defects. You can check the memory and Hard Disk temperature with freeware programs. HDD Temperature will monitor your Hard Disk temperature. MemTest by HCI software (again free) will exhaustively test your RAM integrity. There must be some kind of software that will exhaustively test your hardware, like the burn-in software they used to test the computer when new, but I don't know where this is available. Whether you can test the CPU or the hard disk depends on the particular brand, some have a temperature diode, some don't. For my part I did the above and found I had an overheating Hard disk. I also found that a number of my USB and Intel bus drivers were outdated. In any case this cut down on the shutdowns to about one per day. Finally, I just found at Microsoft's web site a tool to find ALL of the unsigned drivers on your Windows machine. They have a tool for this. The article is: 316434 located at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434 GOOD LUCK! It says: How to remove unsigned drivers All the drivers that are included with Windows XP use digital signatures to verify that they have been tested by the Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). Many third-party programs are written for Windows XP must install additional drivers that have not been tested by WHQL. Therefore, they do not receive a digital signature. Note Some third-party vendors have tools that they can use to generate a valid digital signature even if these products were not tested by WHQL. The following procedure cannot be used to determine whether these drivers are installed. Windows XP includes the File Signature Verification tool (Sigverif.exe). You can use this tool to find all files on your computer that are not digitally signed. For the purposes of Windows XP clean-boot troubleshooting, you have to test only the files in the %Windir%\System32\Drivers folder. To use the Sigverif.exe tool, follow these steps: 1. Click Start, click Run, type sigverif in the Open box, and then click OK. 2. Click Advanced, click Look for other files that are not digitally signed, click Browse, locate the Windows\System32\Drivers folder, and then click OK two times. 3. Click Start. After Sigverif.exe is completed, a list of all unsigned drivers that are installed on your computer appears.


On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 2:16 am, Shehan wrote:
>I have a question about Top
>reasons for random, fatal crashes in Windows XP and Windows 2000:

>
>
>Hi. My new P4 2.2GHZ (512RAM, 64MB GeForce 4 Graphics Card, 80GB 7200RPM HD, with
>a 300Watt Power Supply and running WinXP Pro) randomly restarts when doing usual
>tasks such as playing games or installing software. Sometimes, on one specific game,
>the Blue Screen of Death appears and says something about a memory dump and it tells
>me to restart the computer. I can't get it to respond at all, so I have to restart
>the computer using the reset button. After I restart the computer, Windows tells
>me that it has recovered from a serious problem and asks if i want to send Microsoft
>an error report. This happens often, with or without the restarting problem.
>
>How can I fix this? Should I uninstall Windows XP which the computer came loaded
>with, or is it a hardware problem? My computer is only one day old, and it has these
>problems!!!

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