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re: XP home backup utility?
Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 7:58 am
Posted by Bob Cerelli
(2137 messages posted)
You can find it on the CD in the \VALUEADD\MSFT\NTBACKUP directory
Bob Cerelli
http://www.onecomputerguy.com
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 7:04 am, PMondor wrote:
>I have a question about What's
>the difference between Windows XP Home and Professional editions?:
>
>
>So how do you install the Home XP Backup utility?
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re: XP home backup utility?
Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Bob Harris
(992 messages posted)
As the previous reply indicated, you can manually install the backup routines.
However, you might think about alternatives for backup. These include, (1) simply
copying personal files to an exteranl (USB or firewire) hard drive or to CD-R, (2)
a full-function backup program like Norton GHOST or Arconis TrueImage or Power Quest
Drive Image to copy ALL files, even the operating system with all user settings and
installed programs.
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 7:04 am, PMondor wrote:
>I have a question about What's
>the difference between Windows XP Home and Professional editions?:
>
>
>So how do you install the Home XP Backup utility?
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re: XP home backup utility?
Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 9:31 am
Posted by Alex Chapman
(2 messages posted)
One caveat that I so unfortunately discovered is that many of the "pre-installed"
Windows XP packages that are sold with new computers are a special OEM version that
almost always does not include Windows XP disks and therefore, no backup utility.
I purchased an e-Machines PC in Dec 2001 and after having to restore the entire system
twice due to crashes and inability to boot at all, I tried to install the backup
utility and was chagrined to find out it is not included. I don't think this is
specific to eMachines but I was extremely disappointed to discover that I will either
have to purchase a retail version of XP or, as previous posts suggested, a different
backup utility.
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re: XP home backup utility?
Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 7:36 pm
Posted by John Benson
(3 messages posted)
I got Win XP Home Edition on an HP Pavilion 503n and a search revealed no ntbackup
anywhere. However, buried in the HP quickstart information was the phone number to
get the real disaster recovery, system install CDROMs "which didn't ship with the
computer due to special licensing restrictions imposed by HP partners(!), for a nominal
shipping fee but only in case the normal recovery from the special system recovery
partition doesn't work". I called, said I wanted the CDROMs before I run into trouble
because every computer I bought so far has come with them; I think every customer
just ought to have them instead of having to ask for them and wait for shipment when
everything is going wrong. Although tempted, I didn't rail at the pleasant tech support
fellow in New Delhi over the mealy-mouthed excuse for not shipping the disks with
the computer; it was probably scribbled by some clueless dweeb in the USA anyway.
The support guy took my request to his supervisor, got the O.K. and sent me the disks
for free, so I suspect other people must also be calling HP on this bit of unmitigated
weaselopathy. I haven't checked the disks for ntbackup yet, but I did want to indicate
that HP policy is better than it's quickstart documentation would seem to indicate.
Perhaps a call to e-Machines support would also be fruitful in your case.
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 9:31 am, Alex Chapman wrote:
>One caveat that I so unfortunately discovered is that many of the "pre-installed"
>Windows XP packages that are sold with new computers are a special OEM version that
>almost always does not include Windows XP disks and therefore, no backup utility.
>I purchased an e-Machines PC in Dec 2001 and after having to restore the entire
system
>twice due to crashes and inability to boot at all, I tried to install the backup
>utility and was chagrined to find out it is not included. I don't think this is
>specific to eMachines but I was extremely disappointed to discover that I will either
>have to purchase a retail version of XP or, as previous posts suggested, a different
>backup utility.
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re: XP home backup utility?
Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 9:44 am
Posted by Alex Chapman
(2 messages posted)
John,
Thanks for the info. I did call e-Machines before I posted my original message and
could not get them to cough up any CD's for me, no matter how hard I begged. I learned
my lesson - I won't be buying eMachines in the future.
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re: XP home backup utility?
Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Bob Groome
(1 messages posted)
I have had the same experience with a Tiny Machine who are now part of Time/Computer
World. Their after sales service(at £1 per minute) is absolute crap. After being
held in a queue and a £35 telephone call, no remedy, no disk, although I could have
had one for another £90, and a rather aggressive response from a representetive.
Great for someone who had spent the best part of £1200. No more custom from me.
I've now resorted to running with a pirate copy of XP, something I am not proud
of, and am waiting for someone from Microsoft to challenge me because I have the
certificate and serial number etc.
It is about time we stopped allowing ourselves to be ripped off by these companies.
Tiny do say however that Microsoft will not allow them to distribute the disks. How
true is this I wonder?
On Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 9:44 am, Alex Chapman wrote:
>John,
>
>Thanks for the info. I did call e-Machines before I posted my original message
and
>could not get them to cough up any CD's for me, no matter how hard I begged. I
learned
>my lesson - I won't be buying eMachines in the future.
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re: XP home backup utility?
Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 9:31 am
Posted by bugged II
(2 messages posted)
Tried calling e-machines about the backup utility. Cheap XXXXs! They say everything
was included on their disks and have nothing more to ship out. Well, there was never
any backup program include and there is no Valuadd subdirectory on any of the disks
I got.
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re: XP home backup utility?
Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 2:58 am
Posted by Iain Craze
(2 messages posted)
I would not trust Windows Backup under XP Home, and here's why - http://www.woodyswatch.com/winxp/archtemplate.asp?2-n05
- this link is to an archived copy of Wood's XP Watch - wouldn't be without Woody's
newsletters.
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 9:31 am, e-machine bugged wrote:
>Tried calling e-machines about the backup utility. Cheap XXXXs! They say everything
>was included on their disks and have nothing more to ship out. Well, there was
never
>any backup program include and there is no Valuadd subdirectory on any of the disks
>I got.
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 11:50 am
Posted by zoneix
(1 messages posted)
if you have windows 2000, or any installation CD..or a friend who has win2k etc...
just copy the file "ntbackup.exe" on youre machine and use it..
it's a 1.10MB file...if you want it i could email it to you
;)
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 9:31 am, e-machine bugged wrote:
>Tried calling e-machines about the backup utility. Cheap XXXXs! They say everything
>was included on their disks and have nothing more to ship out. Well, there was
never
>any backup program include and there is no Valuadd subdirectory on any of the disks
>I got.
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Wednesday, July 23, 2003 at 5:32 am
Posted by bugged II
(2 messages posted)
No, sorry. Thats the point. Emachines didn't include it on the copy of XP they
send out!. It isn't there. In fact there is no "\VALUEADD\" directory at all!
And yes Windows said they were supposed to and to contact emachiens. Emachines "knows
nothing about it"......
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 7:58 am, Bob Cerelli wrote:
>You can find it on the CD in the \VALUEADD\MSFT\NTBACKUP directory
>
>Bob Cerelli
>http://www.onecomputerguy.com
>
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Friday, August 8, 2003 at 11:13 am
Posted by mike
(358 messages posted)
I was looking for info on Windows XP Home backup utility myself and found a great
"How to" article on Microsofts support site. Microsoft does not install the backup
utility by default and you must extract the file from the Windows XP CD-Rom that
came with your computer. Excellent instructions are found here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320820
The backup utility looks and works the same as Windows XP pro and Windows 2000 pro.
I hope this helps all of you.
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 7:04 am, PMondor wrote:
>I have a question about What's
>the difference between Windows XP Home and Professional editions?:
>
>
>So how do you install the Home XP Backup utility?
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re: XP home backup utility?
Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Fred Penner
(1 messages posted)
if you dont have the cd (ie your computer didnt come with an xp cd) just get to any
other machine running xp pro and copy the three files needed, copy the help files
to the help folder in your windows folder and the executable file to your system32
folder in the windows folder.... hope this helps too.
On Friday, August 8, 2003 at 11:13 am, Steve wrote:
>I was looking for info on Windows XP Home backup utility myself and found a great
>"How to" article on Microsofts support site. Microsoft does not install the backup
>utility by default and you must extract the file from the Windows XP CD-Rom that
>came with your computer. Excellent instructions are found here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320820
>The backup utility looks and works the same as Windows XP pro and Windows 2000 pro.
>I hope this helps all of you.
>
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Thursday, September 4, 2003 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Alan
(1 messages posted)
Listen, it's not just E-Machines, Compaq (aka HP) is also selling its units preinstalled
with XP and NOT providing the CD. I just spent the evening trying to find out how
to access the software on my so-called Recovery Partition, (which now I know I cannot
directly do) to load Backup. Compaq was giving me the run around. Even a chat with
a Compaq techhie in Asia turned out to be a bust. I barely typed the words out eluding
to the question, "what do I do without the disk..." and the response came back, "we
don't support that area". Now it all makes sense. Definately use caution when buying
a new computer at this time and ensure you know what software you are physically
getting (and what software you are not).
On Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 9:44 am, Alex Chapman wrote:
>John,
>
>Thanks for the info. I did call e-Machines before I posted my original message
and
>could not get them to cough up any CD's for me, no matter how hard I begged. I
learned
>my lesson - I won't be buying eMachines in the future.
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re: XP home backup utility?
Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 6:10 am
Posted by Craig
(4 messages posted)
just been trying to backup myself i have an emachines and no xp disc what are the
three files i need and can i get them off the net any help would be great as i cant
find a back up anywhere that appeals to my needs,thanks
On Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 8:50 pm, Fred Penner wrote:
>
>if you dont have the cd (ie your computer didnt come with an xp cd) just get to
any
>other machine running xp pro and copy the three files needed, copy the help files
>to the help folder in your windows folder and the executable file to your system32
>folder in the windows folder.... hope this helps too.
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Monday, November 17, 2003 at 6:18 pm
Posted by D McKinney
(2 messages posted)
Go here:
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm -
and search the page for ntbackup.msi
On Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 6:10 am, craig wrote:
>
>just been trying to backup myself i have an emachines and no xp disc what are the
>three files i need and can i get them off the net any help would be great as i cant
>find a back up anywhere that appeals to my needs,thanks
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Friday, November 28, 2003 at 1:41 am
Posted by Kevin Tait
(1 messages posted)
You can also use any backup utility with CD writing support. For example I'm using
Careful Backup from panterasoft for more than year.
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 7:04 am, PMondor wrote:
>I have a question about What's
>the difference between Windows XP Home and Professional editions?:
>
>
>So how do you install the Home XP Backup utility?
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re: XP home backup utility?
Friday, March 12, 2004 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Karen
(1 messages posted)
I also purchased a machine with a pre installed version of windows xp home .I contacted
compaq and was given a link to get the back up utility . here it is;
http://au.geocities.com/winexpert2001/Backup.zip This link worked for me, I hope
it also helps others.
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 9:31 am, Alex Chapman wrote:
>One caveat that I so unfortunately discovered is that many of the "pre-installed"
>Windows XP packages that are sold with new computers are a special OEM version that
>almost always does not include Windows XP disks and therefore, no backup utility.
>I purchased an e-Machines PC in Dec 2001 and after having to restore the entire
system
>twice due to crashes and inability to boot at all, I tried to install the backup
>utility and was chagrined to find out it is not included. I don't think this is
>specific to eMachines but I was extremely disappointed to discover that I will either
>have to purchase a retail version of XP or, as previous posts suggested, a different
>backup utility.
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re: XP home backup utility?
Saturday, February 5, 2005 at 5:35 pm
Posted by K. Shelton
(1 messages posted)
Thanks so much for pointing that link out! I needed the backup utility for computer
class, and I was dismayed when I learned that my Compaq did not come with an XP disk.
On Monday, November 17, 2003 at 6:18 pm, D McKinney wrote:
>
>Go here:
>http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm -
>
>and search the page for ntbackup.msi
>
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Saturday, February 5, 2005 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Matthew D. Healy
(1255 messages posted)
This is one of many good reasons to get a no-name
"white box" computer from a local store: it will
usually come with a full XP OEM Version installation
CD. It is also much less likely than some of the name
brands to require special hardware drivers and such.
Mine needs very few drivers beyond what comes
with XP by default.
Since the components of such a box will typically
have come from a number of different sources,
you can also be confident they will play nice when
you replace failed components or upgrade to newer
ones. Some mass-market systems nowadays
don't even come with any CD,
there's a hidden partition on the hard disk from which
an OS restore can be done. But what if the hard disk
dies, or you want to upgrade?
On my no-name box, when I got a new (bigger
and faster) hard drive, I simply did a full backup of
the old drive, then restored onto the new hard
drive and was off and running with all my software
configuration unchanged.
The mass-market vendors assume the user will
do very little customization, mostly running the
bundled software that came with the computer
plus maybe a few additional mass-market apps.
So the user is expected to burn document files
to CD. Then in the event of a crash, the support
tech will walk the user through using the OEM
restore CD to reformat and reinstall the OS and
bundled software just as shipped. Then the user
reinstalls any other applications, and they're done.
But for those of us who have spent many many
hours tweaking our systems to meet our needs,
this is not acceptable.
That's where programs like Drive Image or Acronis
True Image or Ghost or whatever shine!
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 9:31 am, Alex Chapman wrote:
>One caveat that I so unfortunately discovered is that many of the "pre-installed"
>Windows XP packages that are sold with new computers are a special OEM version that
>almost always does not include Windows XP disks and therefore, no backup utility.
>I purchased an e-Machines PC in Dec 2001 and after having to restore the entire
system
>twice due to crashes and inability to boot at all, I tried to install the backup
>utility and was chagrined to find out it is not included. I don't think this is
>specific to eMachines but I was extremely disappointed to discover that I will either
>have to purchase a retail version of XP or, as previous posts suggested, a different
>backup utility.
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Monday, February 14, 2005 at 1:31 pm
Posted by D McKinney
(2 messages posted)
They don't think it is your machine, they think it's their software on the OEM's
machine. AutoCad is already, pay per use online only.
You think it's bad now, hold onto your hat.
D. McKinney
On Saturday, February 5, 2005 at 7:23 pm, Matthew D. Healy wrote:
>This is one of many good reasons to get a no-name
>"white box" computer from a local store: it will
>usually come with a full XP OEM Version installation
>CD. It is also much less likely than some of the name
>brands to require special hardware drivers and such.
>Mine needs very few drivers beyond what comes
>with XP by default.
>
>Since the components of such a box will typically
>have come from a number of different sources,
>you can also be confident they will play nice when
>you replace failed components or upgrade to newer
>ones. Some mass-market systems nowadays
>don't even come with any CD,
>there's a hidden partition on the hard disk from which
>an OS restore can be done. But what if the hard disk
>dies, or you want to upgrade?
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Thursday, June 2, 2005 at 11:50 am
Posted by Aravind
(2 messages posted)
Hey folks,
I'm a newbie to this forum and I've a strange problem with the Win XP Pro Backup
utility. I was fortunate enough to get this intact with my notebook purchase from
ChemUSA and did run the utility a couple of times. But all of a sudden a couple
of days back, after I'd opened the application, chosen the files and media in the
wizard, clicked "start backup" and voila- xp shouts back: "the back up utility has
encountered a problem and needs to close". This happens repeatedly even after rebooting.
I'm not an iota sure why this happens.. Any ideas, guys on working around the problem??
Thanx.
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 11:50 am, zoneix wrote:
>if you have windows 2000, or any installation CD..or a friend who has win2k etc...
>just copy the file "ntbackup.exe" on youre machine and use it..
>it's a 1.10MB file...if you want it i could email it to you
>
>;)
>
>
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re: XP home backup utility?
Friday, June 3, 2005 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Corky
(1 messages posted)
I bought two Compaq machines one with XP Home the other with XP PRO. The operating
systems were already installed and no disk. However Compaq provides software to Create
your own factory restore disk. I discovered like others that XP Home does not have
Backup installed and I could not go through the restore partition to find Backup.
But, a quick call to the Compaq Techline. I insisted that is was part of XP Home.they
realized that I would not go away quietly they did some research. Here's the answer.
Go to Start/Programs/PC Help & Tools/ Click on Application recover) You get a screen
called (Compaq Application Recovery program. Click on Application install then click
on Next at the bottom of the screen. You will have a list of all software that is
part of the factory package. Click on Micrsoft Valueadd folder. Then click on Install
at the bottom of the screen. Close that and go to Wndows Explorer. Find C:\I386\Valueadd\MSFT\NTBACKUP\NTBACKUP.MSI
Double Click on the file NTBACKUP.MSI and backup will install!
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 7:04 am, PMondor wrote:
>I have a question about What's
>the difference between Windows XP Home and Professional editions?:
>
>
>So how do you install the Home XP Backup utility?
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re: XP home backup utility?
Friday, March 24, 2006 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Greg
(2 messages posted)
I am having problems with Windows Backup on one of my 2 computers, both running Win
XP Pro. While it runs with no problem on one, except that it uses the “non-shadow”
copy mode, when I run it on the other machine, Backup fails and in the report, it
says, “The backup could not be completed due to an error” without specifying what
the error was. Both computers have hard disks in FAT32. Norton WinDoctor did not
detect any problem. Any suggestions? Thanks
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re: XP home backup utility?
Saturday, September 16, 2006 at 12:53 am
Posted by RTechnikal
(23 messages posted)
Couple of suggestions that might help you
http://www.aarvy.com/tech/windows%20backup%20utility.htm
Good Luck
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re: XP home backup utility?
Sunday, September 17, 2006 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Greg
(2 messages posted)
Hi RTecknikal,
Thanks for the info. Shall read the suggestions.
Greg
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