I have a question about Stop Pop-Up Spam Messages:

I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. I contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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"WinMessengerService"...did you disable that??not the instant messenger bs....if that doesnt do it, then you,d better get a good firewall cuz you have ports open big time....go here and check...www.grc.com...look into "shields up" etc...


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Pop-Up Spam Messages:

>
>
>I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. I
>contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection
>and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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Have you done a virus scan lately?






On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Stop 
>Pop-Up Spam Messages:

>
>
>I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. 
I 
>contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection 
>and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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If you want to stop getting pop ups, you can do the following. 1) activate your xp-integrated firewall (and manually block ports), 2) get the tool "Popupstopper Pro" which you can manually activate and deacitvate in your internet browser -> really efficient tool, or 3) download an alternative internet browser such as "Opera" or "Mozilla". I'm not quite sure about Mozilla, but I know that Opera has an integrated "refuse pop ups" function. -> all you need to do then, is define this internet browser as your default browser... Good luck!

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Do you get messenger pop ups or html pop ups. If you are getting html pop ups you probably have some spyware on your machine? Download Ad-aware Download Popup Stopper Companion If they are still the messenger pop ups Download a firewall...or turn the messenger service off.


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Pop-Up Spam Messages:

>
>
>I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. I
>contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection
>and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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Mozilla blocks all pop-ups and pop-unders (by choice, of course)


On Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 1:23 am, zehn_uhr wrote:
>If you want to stop getting pop ups, you can do the following.
>1) activate your xp-integrated firewall (and manually block ports),
>2) get the tool "Popupstopper Pro" which you can manually activate and deacitvate
>in your internet browser -> really efficient tool, or
>3) download an alternative internet browser such as "Opera" or "Mozilla". I'm not
>quite sure about Mozilla, but I know that Opera has an integrated "refuse pop ups"
>function. -> all you need to do then, is define this internet browser as your default
>browser...
>
>Good luck!

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These messages are annoying, beyond belief because you dont even need to do anything 
to receive them. However, disabling the Messenger Service may not be the answer!

go to sellertools.com and download the Messenger Manager! This program will ensure 
that you do not see any of unwanted messages ever again, unless you choose to look 
at them.

Messenger Manager will filter all incoming Messenger messages and save only the messages 
that contain words you deem to be important. For instance, if your antivirus alerts 
you to a new virus by popping up a message that says New Virus found on your computer, 
or your System Administrator alerts you to potential downtime by saying, 'Scheduled 
Dowtime on xx/xx/xxxx', you could have these message saved by entering the word "Virus" 
or "Scheduled" in your searchlist. Then all messages that contain either of those 
words would be saved to a Passed messages list where you can read them at your convenience!

Works great and is guaranteed to save you the headache of closing pop-up after pop-up.
:)
http://www.sellertools.com/sellertools.asp?i=MessageManager.htm

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I have had no problems since I followed the instructions. Thanks to whomever posted!


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Pop-Up Spam Messages:

>
>
>I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. I
>contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection
>and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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to get rid of messenger pop-ups, this what you have to do... goto control panal then adminstrative tools then click on services then look for messenger, right click and go to properties, service status click stop, and above that startup type, set to manual, good luck


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Reply or follow-up to this message]

Stopping Windows Messenger Services will only stop the popups that come in thru ports 
controlled by it; Netbios 135, 137-139, and 445; it won't control web-based pop-ups. 
Those popups when you are on the internet come thru browsers port 80.  Something 
like Pop-Up-Stopper, POW, or integrated modules in other products can help with these.

If you get pop-ups when not on the web, or a large amount of them, you might have 
another problem...spyware.  Lavasoft Ad-Aware or Spybot Search and Destroy can detect 
and remove these modules so you can get some peace.

-Athena-






On Saturday, February 8, 2003 at 7:05 am, Woody wrote:
>to get rid of messenger pop-ups, this what you have to do...
>goto control panal
>then adminstrative tools
>then click on services
>then look for messenger, right click and go to properties, service status click 
stop, 
>and above that startup type, set to manual, good luck

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If I block the ports you mentioned with my Firewall can I stop the messages?


On Sunday, February 9, 2003 at 8:59 am, Athena wrote:

>Stopping Windows Messenger Services will only stop the popups that come in thru 
ports 
>controlled by it; Netbios 135, 137-139, and 445; it won't control web-based pop-ups. 
>Those popups when you are on the internet come thru browsers port 80.  Something 
>like Pop-Up-Stopper, POW, or integrated modules in other products can help with 
these.
>
>If you get pop-ups when not on the web, or a large amount of them, you might have 
>another problem...spyware.  Lavasoft Ad-Aware or Spybot Search and Destroy can detect 
>and remove these modules so you can get some peace.
>
>-Athena-
>
>

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I recently started getting these random ads popping up when I didn't even have a browser open. (I have cable) I did some research and ended up installing Ad Aware, which is freeware. It located no less than seventeen registry entries, files, cookies, and even a complete directory that were responsible, and with its assistance, I deleted them and then updated my firewall. I've also pretty much completely denied Internet Explorer any access to the 'net at all. (I use Netscape...) The directory that Ad Aware found was called "cydoor" and this is the "parking area" for ads that Cydoor.com sends to your computer if you are using certain Cydoor enabled software. I would love to see a DOS attack on Cydoor, or better yet, I would love to see all its owners found guilty of child pornography charges, as there is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, that I hate more than internet spam ads! Hell isn't unpleasant enough for these clowns. Get Ad Aware and clean house!

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HOW do I do this? Where do I find the service.mcs screen????

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Your answer sounds more complicate then anything else. Sorry, maybe it's so only for me: 1." Messenger Manager will filter all incoming Messenger messages and save only the messages
>that contain words you deem to be important" - Are you kidding? Could you make a list of your... "words that deem to be important"? Lucky one :) I am still curious about that possibility! Maybe I didn't get the idea, please lighten me! 2. I don't see yet the connection between what you said before and "For instance, if your antivirus alerts
>you to a new virus by popping up a message (...) you could have these message saved by entering the word "Virus" or "Scheduled" in your searchlist. Then all messages that contain either of those words would be saved to a Passed messages list where you can read them at your convenience" Anyway I didn't understand what's the benefit of reading them in a different place... 3. If I've understood well you are only changing the place where the messages would be placed (in case I am able to sort them after that list (see 1!)! To have them on my computer just in case I want to look at them. What about I don't want to receive them at all; wasn't that the question?


On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 8:44 am, Messenger Manager wrote:

>These messages are annoying, beyond belief because you dont even need to do anything 
>to receive them. However, disabling the Messenger Service may not be the answer!
>
>go to sellertools.com and download the Messenger Manager! This program will ensure 
>that you do not see any of unwanted messages ever again, unless you choose to look 
>at them.
>
>Messenger Manager will filter all incoming Messenger messages and save only the 
messages 
>that contain words you deem to be important. For instance, if your antivirus alerts 
>you to a new virus by popping up a message that says New Virus found on your computer, 
>or your System Administrator alerts you to potential downtime by saying, 'Scheduled 
>Dowtime on xx/xx/xxxx', you could have these message saved by entering the word 
"Virus" 
>or "Scheduled" in your searchlist. Then all messages that contain either of those 
>words would be saved to a Passed messages list where you can read them at your convenience!
>
>Works great and is guaranteed to save you the headache of closing pop-up after pop-up.
>:)
>http://www.sellertools.com/sellertools.asp?i=MessageManager.htm

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Start > Run > type "service.mcs"


On Tuesday, February 25, 2003 at 10:43 am, Marta wrote:
>HOW do I do this? Where do I find the service.mcs screen????
>
>

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its services.msc not service.mcs


On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 10:45 am, g4n0n wrote:
>Start > Run > type "service.mcs"
>
>

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I'm fairly new to this stuff so apologies if this is a really stupid question but: I followed your instructions to disable the messenger service and was wondering, what happens to the ports that it controls once you've disabled it? Do they remain open and if they do can someone get access to my computer over the net? Also, can anyone recommend a beginner's guide to this kind of stuff (internet security, spam etc)? Cheers, C.


On Sunday, February 9, 2003 at 8:59 am, Athena wrote:

>Stopping Windows Messenger Services will only stop the popups that come in thru 
ports 
>controlled by it; Netbios 135, 137-139, and 445; it won't control web-based pop-ups. 
>Those popups when you are on the internet come thru browsers port 80.  Something 
>like Pop-Up-Stopper, POW, or integrated modules in other products can help with 
these.
>
>If you get pop-ups when not on the web, or a large amount of them, you might have 
>another problem...spyware.  Lavasoft Ad-Aware or Spybot Search and Destroy can detect 
>and remove these modules so you can get some peace.
>
>-Athena-
>
>

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We are experiencing the same problem with IE on W2K. Unfortunately, Ad Aware did not work on a customer's PC. Networking handles the firewalls so the Help Desk has no access to changing anything on the firewalls. Can someone suggest something else?


On Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 5:07 pm, cmjohnson wrote:
>
>I recently started getting these random ads popping up when I didn't even have a
>browser open. (I have cable)
>
>I did some research and ended up installing Ad Aware, which is freeware. It located
>no less than seventeen registry entries, files, cookies, and even a complete directory
>that were responsible, and with its assistance, I deleted them and then updated my
>firewall. I've also pretty much completely denied Internet Explorer any access
>to the 'net at all. (I use Netscape...)
>
>
>The directory that Ad Aware found was called "cydoor" and this is the "parking area"
>for ads that Cydoor.com sends to your computer if you are using certain Cydoor enabled
>software.
>
>I would love to see a DOS attack on Cydoor, or better yet, I would love to see all
>its owners found guilty of child pornography charges, as there is NOTHING, and I
>mean NOTHING, that I hate more than internet spam ads!
>
>Hell isn't unpleasant enough for these clowns.
>
>Get Ad Aware and clean house!
>
>
>
>

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WOODY! You da man!! I wish this would have been in the Annoyances book! Thanks for the EASY way to kill this stupid SPAM! Claude


On Tuesday, March 18, 2003 at 11:47 am, Ryan wrote:
>its services.msc not service.mcs
>
>

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Thank this seems to have stoped it on my computer


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Pop-Up Spam Messages:

>
>
>I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. I
>contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection
>and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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Hi Steve Did you manage to stop the pop up messages. Like you, I tried the following:- Open the Services window (services.msc). Double-click the Messenger entry in the list. Click Stop to close the service. Select Disabled from the Startup type list to prevent it from loading automatically the next time Windows starts. Close the Services window when you're done. and it did not work. Any ideas? Regards. Tracey


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Pop-Up Spam Messages:

>
>
>I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. I
>contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection
>and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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If you using Xp, d\load Service Pack if you have already enable the firewall built in to XP, and this should stop the messages flooding in, as shown on microsoft website, in search type in spam, solution should be there hope this helps. Mark.


On Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 3:11 pm, Tracey Rose wrote:
>Hi Steve
>
>Did you manage to stop the pop up messages. Like you, I tried the following:-
>
>Open the Services window (services.msc).
>Double-click the Messenger entry in the list.
>Click Stop to close the service.
>Select Disabled from the Startup type list to prevent it from loading automatically
>the next time Windows starts.
>Close the Services window when you're done.
>
>and it did not work. Any ideas?
>
>Regards.
>
>Tracey
>
>

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Here is the URL that gives good simple instructions on how to enable your Windows XP firewall. Following these instructions will stop the pop-up messages. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp


On Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 2:08 pm, Mark Crilly wrote:
>If you using Xp, d\load Service Pack if you have already enable the firewall built
>in to XP, and this should stop the messages flooding in, as shown on microsoft website,
>in search type in spam, solution should be there hope this helps. Mark.
>
>

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FORGET ALL THE HARD STUFF ::: HERE IS HOW TO STOP THE LITTLE GRAY BOXES. Start / ControlPanel / AdministrativeTools / Services Scroll down to messenger / right click on it / properties / left click . the box will open and you change from Automatic in start up type use the drop down to Disable . Then you Click on the stop button to stop the service, and it will never run again. CLICK ON APPLY , and close it all up

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If I do this procedure, will I still get my windows and Norton popup alerts for viruses, etc.?


On Monday, June 30, 2003 at 8:37 pm, Jeff Jacobsen wrote:
>
>FORGET ALL THE HARD STUFF :::
>
>HERE IS HOW TO STOP THE LITTLE GRAY BOXES.
>
> Start / ControlPanel / AdministrativeTools / Services
>
>Scroll down to messenger / right click on it / properties / left click . the box
>will open and you change from Automatic in start up type use the drop down to Disable
>. Then you Click on the stop button to stop the service, and it will never run again.
>CLICK ON APPLY , and close it all up

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Steve Gibson makes it easy with his "Shoot the Messenger " program which may be downloaded for free at http://grc.com/files/shootthemessenger.com

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message quote from "http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp" last note on the bottom. You can also disable the Messenger Service in Windows XP. When you disable the messenger service, it is no longer available for receiving legitimate messages, such as administrative alerts and notifications from antivirus programs. Be sure to talk with your system administrator before taking this action if your computer is part of a corporate network.


On Thursday, July 3, 2003 at 6:51 am, bboop wrote:
>If I do this procedure, will I still get my windows and Norton popup alerts for viruses,
>etc.?
>
>

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If your on a broadband connection without a firewall/router then it's your own fault. Routers are not expensive, and they'll save you hundreds in repairs due to the fact that your computer(s) will no longer be openly exposed to the net. I've honestly never ran into the problem in this article, but then again, I've been using a firewall/router since DSL was new to the market ( at that time, router WERE expensive, but that was then, and this is now, and that no longer holds true ). Do yourself a favor, get a router. Then all these little problems will go away. Simple as that. See, it's careless people that make me alot of money... afterall.. I'm a technician. so I tell ya what... don't get a router... instead... bring your machine to me so I can charge you $100 per hour to fix it. ;)


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:16 pm, Steve Schiraldi wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Pop-Up Spam Messages:

>
>
>I followed the instructions on disabling the messenger, but, this did not work. I
>contine to get pop ups even when I'm not surfing the net. I have a cable connection
>and would like to at least not experience this when the web browser is not open.

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We, too, have cable and used to get pop-ups--sometimes every 10 minutes--even when browser was closed. I followed this advice 24 hours ago and have had no pop-ups since! Yea! Thanks a gazillion!!


On Saturday, February 8, 2003 at 7:05 am, Woody wrote:
>to get rid of messenger pop-ups, this what you have to do...
>goto control panal
>then adminstrative tools
>then click on services
>then look for messenger, right click and go to properties, service status click stop,
>and above that startup type, set to manual, good luck
>
>
>

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For Win XP: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp 

For Win 2000: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/administration/communications/msgrspam.asp 

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Oh, man, I downloaded Ad-Aware after reading your message and it found all the little malware bastards that have been hiding on my machine for months -- 76 of them! I feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. Thank you Lavasoft, and thanks to cmjohnson for posting this!! Free at last, free at last!!


On Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 5:07 pm, cmjohnson wrote:
>
>I recently started getting these random ads popping up when I didn't even have a
>browser open. (I have cable)
>
>I did some research and ended up installing Ad Aware, which is freeware. It located
>no less than seventeen registry entries, files, cookies, and even a complete directory
>that were responsible, and with its assistance, I deleted them and then updated my
>firewall. I've also pretty much completely denied Internet Explorer any access
>to the 'net at all. (I use Netscape...)
>
>
>The directory that Ad Aware found was called "cydoor" and this is the "parking area"
>for ads that Cydoor.com sends to your computer if you are using certain Cydoor enabled
>software.
>
>I would love to see a DOS attack on Cydoor, or better yet, I would love to see all
>its owners found guilty of child pornography charges, as there is NOTHING, and I
>mean NOTHING, that I hate more than internet spam ads!
>
>Hell isn't unpleasant enough for these clowns.
>
>Get Ad Aware and clean house!
>
>
>
>

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To anyone out there who can help...I can't find the Messenger thing on my Services screen...it just isn't there!! Another thing...I have this pop-up link that stays on my start-up panel, and it's a link to some porn thing. On my start-up panel, it's called LiveStream (one word) and it's symbol is a lower case "e". No matter what I do, I can't remove it. It's not even on the Add/Remove Programs thing. Can anyone help me?! Thanks so much...it's so frustrating because I suspect it got there because of Kazaa, which I have but am trying to remove, so I really hope someone out there has an answer. Thanks in advance.

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go to www.zdnet.com > downloads > search for adaware by lavasoft (it's free) and download. Then run it - you probably have lots of spyware running. Then get NOADS free there also. That will stop pop ups. www.zonealarm.com has a free version of firewall that will keep the gray box ads down - but you've got to clean your machine before it can work. Good luck and make sure you're running current virus definitions.


On Monday, September 15, 2003 at 10:20 pm, Christie wrote:
>To anyone out there who can help...I can't find the Messenger thing on my Services
>screen...it just isn't there!! Another thing...I have this pop-up link that stays
>on my start-up panel, and it's a link to some porn thing. On my start-up panel,
>it's called LiveStream (one word) and it's symbol is a lower case "e". No matter
>what I do, I can't remove it. It's not even on the Add/Remove Programs thing. Can
>anyone help me?! Thanks so much...it's so frustrating because I suspect it got there
>because of Kazaa, which I have but am trying to remove, so I really hope someone
>out there has an answer. Thanks in advance.
>
>

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Jeanne, How do you clean the hard-drive from these pop-ups? There sitting in 'program's' with file names like 'save & pop', I have luck deleting them piece bye piece. XP will not let me delete them! I'm using Directway Dish -Thanx's in advance Ric


On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 at 6:51 pm, jeanne wrote:
>go to www.zdnet.com > downloads > search for adaware by lavasoft (it's free) and
>download. Then run it - you probably have lots of spyware running. Then get NOADS
>free there also. That will stop pop ups. www.zonealarm.com has a free version of
>firewall that will keep the gray box ads down - but you've got to clean your machine
>before it can work. Good luck and make sure you're running current virus definitions.
>
>

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Help, I am running XP (a few weeks ago) 2 days ago something got onto my h drive and i am getting sick amounts of pop ups, i never had an issue before in 15yrs. It is affecting more than just my screen - i have already done the "messenger" in service deal - my Services window only displays "messenger" not "winblah blah"). I am hoping this is the correct one? Also how do you get rid of what is already on your harddrive? thanks in advance.


On Friday, September 26, 2003 at 7:23 am, Ric wrote:
>Jeanne, How do you clean the hard-drive from these pop-ups? There sitting in 'program's'
>with file names like 'save & pop', I have luck deleting them piece bye piece. XP
>will not let me delete them! I'm using Directway Dish -Thanx's in advance Ric
>
>
>
>

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Yes, you'll still get Norton popups and such. Those programs do not use the messenger service to send alerts.


On Thursday, July 3, 2003 at 6:51 am, bboop wrote:
>If I do this procedure, will I still get my windows and Norton popup alerts for viruses,
>etc.?
>
>

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Hi there, I am not quite sure when everyone is talking about the Messenger "Services Window" is located. Is it in control panel somewhere or do I have to type it in the Start\Run menu?? Im willing to try this otherwise jus keep on reading for some other kind of help. I am not willing to pay for thsi nuisance to stop. sometime si believe those who created this mess in the first place make the solution just to earn a quick buck.. so no no to that. thanx, Meekal.


On Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 8:26 pm, triplate wrote:
>"WinMessengerService"...did you disable that??not the instant messenger bs....if
>that doesnt do it, then you,d better get a good firewall cuz you have ports open
>big time....go here and check...www.grc.com...look into "shields up" etc...
>

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To get rid of pop ups... Go to www.download.com and download ad-aware 6.0 by lavasoft. Install and run. This program is designed to search out and delete all files that contain spyware (which usually translate to pop ups). After installing it, YOU MUST UPDATE THE SEARCH FILE SO THAT ALL NEW SPYWARE FOUND AFTER THE PROGRAM WAS MADE CAN BE FOUND AND REMOVED! This is an important step, otherwise your pop ups will continue. Also, I use google toolbar (found at google.com) which block pop ups. Its a great tool and its totally free and doesn't add anything but a tool bar in your IE window.... Hope this helps Ben


On Friday, September 26, 2003 at 8:19 am, bBb wrote:
>Help,
>
>I am running XP (a few weeks ago)
>
>2 days ago something got onto my h drive and i am getting sick amounts of pop ups,
>i never had an issue before in 15yrs.
>
>It is affecting more than just my screen - i have already done the "messenger" in
>service deal - my Services window only displays "messenger" not "winblah blah").
>
>I am hoping this is the correct one? Also how do you get rid of what is already on
>your harddrive?
>
>thanks in advance.
>
>

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Yeah, Kazaa is horrible for adware. Use Limewire, it's not loaded with that stuff.


On Monday, September 15, 2003 at 10:20 pm, Christie wrote:
>To anyone out there who can help...I can't find the Messenger thing on my Services
>screen...it just isn't there!! Another thing...I have this pop-up link that stays
>on my start-up panel, and it's a link to some porn thing. On my start-up panel,
>it's called LiveStream (one word) and it's symbol is a lower case "e". No matter
>what I do, I can't remove it. It's not even on the Add/Remove Programs thing. Can
>anyone help me?! Thanks so much...it's so frustrating because I suspect it got there
>because of Kazaa, which I have but am trying to remove, so I really hope someone
>out there has an answer. Thanks in advance.
>
>

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