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Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Monday, February 17, 2003 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Chris Alberto (2 messages posted)

I have a question about How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?:

I recently installed a new motherboard and then the system would not boot. I'm reading your solution but my Windows 2000 does not have an "upgrade" option, only Install or Repair. So, I figured I would skip the 2000 and go to XP. Many more problems persist with this install and I'm using a fresh new drive (I figured the old one was about 6 years old and maybe that was causing problems, so I dumped it) Why am I having so many problems installing a new OS on a new drive?

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Bob Harris (992 messages posted)

In theory, a fresh hard drive (fdisked and formatted, of course) and a clean installation 
of XP should be cake.  XP should install, detect all hradware, load drivers, and 
in about an hour be showing a desktop with some icons.

If not, then are you trying something a bit out of the ordinary, like RAID, SCSI, 
SATA/150, etc?  These may require special drivers to be loaded from a floppy at a 
crucial moment during the installation process. Watch for the message about third-party 
drivers.






On Monday, February 17, 2003 at 10:32 pm, Chris Alberto wrote: >I have a question about How >do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?:

> >I recently installed a new motherboard and then the system would not boot. I'm reading >your solution but my Windows 2000 does not have an "upgrade" option, only Install >or Repair. So, I figured I would skip the 2000 and go to XP. Many more problems >persist with this install and I'm using a fresh new drive (I figured the old one >was about 6 years old and maybe that was causing problems, so I dumped it) Why am >I having so many problems installing a new OS on a new drive?

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Chris Alberto (2 messages posted)

Thanks for the info. I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary. Here's my setup PC Chips M920 MB, Western Digital 4GB, Western Digital 40GB, GeForce 2, 2-512MB Crucial DDR PC2100, Generic CD Rom, Yamaha CDRW I'm trying to install to the 4BG drive only. Should I contact the MB vendor and ask for support?


On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 12:24 pm, Bob Harris wrote:

>In theory, a fresh hard drive (fdisked and formatted, of course) and a clean installation 
>of XP should be cake.  XP should install, detect all hradware, load drivers, and 
>in about an hour be showing a desktop with some icons.
>
>If not, then are you trying something a bit out of the ordinary, like RAID, SCSI, 
>SATA/150, etc?  These may require special drivers to be loaded from a floppy at 
a 
>crucial moment during the installation process. Watch for the message about third-party 
>drivers.


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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Friday, April 4, 2003 at 11:56 am
Posted by John (1 messages posted)

Your first mistake is the PC Chips motherboard. Their quality control leaves a lot to be desired. Also if you installed a new motherboard without doing a clean install i.e. Fdisk and reformat then you will have problems.


On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 12:42 pm, Chris Alberto wrote:
>Thanks for the info. I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary. Here's my setup
>PC Chips M920 MB, Western Digital 4GB, Western Digital 40GB, GeForce 2, 2-512MB Crucial
>DDR PC2100, Generic CD Rom, Yamaha CDRW
>
>I'm trying to install to the 4BG drive only. Should I contact the MB vendor and
>ask for support?
>
>

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 12:32 am
Posted by Chris (1 messages posted)

On all windows operating systems as well as linux you cannot necessarily change motherboards and still use the same OS. In the older versions of windows if you tried this then you would get a "Windows Protection Error". If you are able to swap motherboards without a problem then it is sheer luck. There is no surefire way of telling when you will be able to switch motherboards while using an already install OS. A good rule of thumb to assure that your OS will still work is if you are installing a motherboard of the CPU series (ex. MSI Pentium 3 board swapped with MSI Pentium 3 board). When you start upgrading or switching from company to company you run into problems. You won't get the "windows protection error" with XP or 2000 but it still won't boot up into the OS. You need to to a format and fresh install. That's the only way.


On Friday, April 4, 2003 at 11:56 am, John wrote:
>Your first mistake is the PC Chips motherboard. Their quality control leaves a lot
>to be desired. Also if you installed a new motherboard without doing a clean install
>i.e. Fdisk and reformat then you will have problems.
>
>

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Thursday, November 20, 2003 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Bill Mead (1 messages posted)

You guys need to read into Technet a bit. If you have ever dealt with imaging, you would find that if you sysprep the machine with a pnp switch, it will strip the machine of the drivers installed for peripherals and reinstall them upon configuration. Interestingly enough, prior to the sysprep, you need to have the required drivers installed on the system (available for the OS to see in the %sysroot%. There's your solution.


On Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 12:32 am, Chris wrote:
>On all windows operating systems as well as linux you cannot necessarily change motherboards
>and still use the same OS. In the older versions of windows if you tried this then
>you would get a "Windows Protection Error". If you are able to swap motherboards
>without a problem then it is sheer luck. There is no surefire way of telling when
>you will be able to switch motherboards while using an already install OS. A good
>rule of thumb to assure that your OS will still work is if you are installing a motherboard
>of the CPU series (ex. MSI Pentium 3 board swapped with MSI Pentium 3 board). When
>you start upgrading or switching from company to company you run into problems. You
>won't get the "windows protection error" with XP or 2000 but it still won't boot
>up into the OS. You need to to a format and fresh install. That's the only way.
>
>

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 6:34 am
Posted by Nelson (6 messages posted)

The reason you cannot change your motherboard with an exisitng XP OS is becuase XP takes a snapshot of your hardware when you first installed it....one of those snapshots is your motherboard ID. This is the reason for activation, if not you would have the ability to throw the OS on as many different PC's as you pleased. There is a fix, Call Microsoft and they will allow you a new product key.....if they believe your old PC(Motherboard) is dead. And if you think you can just format it an reinstall XP from your CD.....well, it will install, but activation will not work!


On Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 12:32 am, Chris wrote:
>On all windows operating systems as well as linux you cannot necessarily change motherboards
>and still use the same OS. In the older versions of windows if you tried this then
>you would get a "Windows Protection Error". If you are able to swap motherboards
>without a problem then it is sheer luck. There is no surefire way of telling when
>you will be able to switch motherboards while using an already install OS. A good
>rule of thumb to assure that your OS will still work is if you are installing a motherboard
>of the CPU series (ex. MSI Pentium 3 board swapped with MSI Pentium 3 board). When
>you start upgrading or switching from company to company you run into problems. You
>won't get the "windows protection error" with XP or 2000 but it still won't boot
>up into the OS. You need to to a format and fresh install. That's the only way.
>
>

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Thursday, December 4, 2003 at 6:55 pm
Posted by boon hong (1 messages posted)

I faced the same problem. Although I know I can use sysprep on my old motherboard before I upgrade, but the problem is that the reason that I upgrade is because my old motherboard spoiled! There is no way I can sysprep my PC unless I can get the same motherboard first! At least I found an website that has ways to solve it, but not very convenient (stupid Microsoft!) : http://www.windowsreinstall.com/install/other/motherboard/win2k.htm


On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 6:34 am, NA wrote:
>The reason you cannot change your motherboard with an exisitng XP OS is becuase XP
>takes a snapshot of your hardware when you first installed it....one of those snapshots
>is your motherboard ID. This is the reason for activation, if not you would have
>the ability to throw the OS on as many different PC's as you pleased. There is a
>fix, Call Microsoft and they will allow you a new product key.....if they believe
>your old PC(Motherboard) is dead.
>And if you think you can just format it an reinstall XP from your CD.....well, it
>will install, but activation will not work!
>

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Friday, December 5, 2003 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Nelson (6 messages posted)

well, actually the reason should be the motherboard chipsets.....the mainboard chipsets are the main problem.....that is why a different mainboards with the same chipsets usually work. I often swap test hard drives with OS's already installed in to systems to isolate software problems from Hardware issues....and usually mainboards with same chipsets boot up nicely.


On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 6:34 am, NA wrote:
>The reason you cannot change your motherboard with an exisitng XP OS is becuase XP
>takes a snapshot of your hardware when you first installed it....one of those snapshots
>is your motherboard ID. This is the reason for activation, if not you would have
>the ability to throw the OS on as many different PC's as you pleased. There is a
>fix, Call Microsoft and they will allow you a new product key.....if they believe
>your old PC(Motherboard) is dead.
>And if you think you can just format it an reinstall XP from your CD.....well, it
>will install, but activation will not work!
>

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Phil (1 messages posted)

Are you getting an INVALID_BOOT_DEVICE message during the boot? If so, put the old motherboard back, boot up into windows and go into Control Panel->System->Device Manager and then select the IDE Controller (not primary or secondary but the main driver) then change it from whatever it is to the generic IDE controller. This will remove the specific motherboard drivers from the equation and make the drive bootable on any motherboard. It will work after this.


On Friday, December 5, 2003 at 3:21 pm, na wrote:
>
>well, actually the reason should be the motherboard chipsets.....the mainboard chipsets
>are the main problem.....that is why a different mainboards with the same chipsets
>usually work. I often swap test hard drives with OS's already installed in to systems
>to isolate software problems from Hardware issues....and usually mainboards with
>same chipsets boot up nicely.
>

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re: Question about 'How do I upgrade my motherboard in Windows 2000/XP?'
Friday, December 10, 2004 at 7:09 pm
Posted by CdrCargil (1 messages posted)

I tried to replace my MB because my old one went tits up. I read that I could set to bios to boot to the cdrom and WINXP would redetect the MB and all that. I exited the BIOS and rebooted. It didnt boot to the CDrom WINXP cd. It tried to boot to the OS on the HD. I got a vague WINXP error. I tried to boot to floppy and when it checks the boot record and says ok then it just sits there doing nothing. I cant format, i cant fdisk I cant do anything. Any advice?


On Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 1:30 pm, Phil wrote:
>Are you getting an INVALID_BOOT_DEVICE message during the boot? If so, put the old
>motherboard back, boot up into windows and go into Control Panel->System->Device
>Manager and then select the IDE Controller (not primary or secondary but the main
>driver) then change it from whatever it is to the generic IDE controller. This will
>remove the specific motherboard drivers from the equation and make the drive bootable
>on any motherboard. It will work after this.
>
>

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