Has anyone encountered any issues when trying to setup Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage 
devices, and the controller cards keep getting setup as 1394 Networking devices? 
 This is very annoying to me.
    I just recently re-installed XP.  My Digital Video camera was working just fine, 
now it will not work the same. (I am unable to capture/edit video).  Also I just 
recently purchased some USB2/Firewire enclousures for extra storage, and I am unable 
to use them via Firewire, because the controller cards keep automaticaly installing 
as 1394 Network Devices.

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re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Friday, April 11, 2003 at 7:51 pm Posted by Matt Melashenko (20 messages posted) This will require some hassle, but it would be worth your while to unplug the firewire and see if your video camera still has problems. If it does not, then you are likely having an internal conflict with your firewire, very likely with your IRQ settings. This is a tough issue for me, because I am not extremely versed in firewire. On Friday, April 11, 2003 at 4:50 pm, playerx wrote: > Has anyone encountered any issues when trying to setup Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage >devices, and the controller cards keep getting setup as 1394 Networking devices? > This is very annoying to me. > I just recently re-installed XP. My Digital Video camera was working just fine, >now it will not work the same. (I am unable to capture/edit video). Also I just >recently purchased some USB2/Firewire enclousures for extra storage, and I am unable >to use them via Firewire, because the controller cards keep automaticaly installing >as 1394 Network Devices. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Friday, April 11, 2003 at 7:58 pm Posted by playerx (8 messages posted) nice try, but thats not it. The problem is that windows keeps trying to install my firewire controller as a network device, and there is no documentation for why this happens on their support.microsoft.com knowledgebase. On Friday, April 11, 2003 at 7:51 pm, Matt Melashenko wrote: >This will require some hassle, but it would be worth your while to unplug the firewire >and see if your video camera still has problems. If it does not, then you are likely >having an internal conflict with your firewire, very likely with your IRQ settings. > This is a tough issue for me, because I am not extremely versed in firewire. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 5:56 am Posted by Bob Harris (992 messages posted) Maybe I was lucky, but XP automatically detected my firewire card (Adaptec Duo) as firewire and installed the correct dirvers. If uninstalling and then detecting new hardware in the device manager does not fix the problem, you might want to try a manual installation, using one of those XP wizards. At some point during the installation you should have to tell XP what type of device you have, and pick the manufacturer and model, or provide your own drivers from the manufacturer's CD or pre-downloaded from his website. Alternatively, get a new firewire card; they are fairly cheap. On Friday, April 11, 2003 at 4:50 pm, playerx wrote: > Has anyone encountered any issues when trying to setup Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage >devices, and the controller cards keep getting setup as 1394 Networking devices? > This is very annoying to me. > I just recently re-installed XP. My Digital Video camera was working just fine, >now it will not work the same. (I am unable to capture/edit video). Also I just >recently purchased some USB2/Firewire enclousures for extra storage, and I am unable >to use them via Firewire, because the controller cards keep automaticaly installing >as 1394 Network Devices. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 4:33 pm Posted by playerx (8 messages posted) Heheh, still another negative. Thanks for the advice though. I have a PCI firewire card, and my new motherboard has firewire built-in, and un-installing and re-installing doesn't fix it, and it always automaticaly just installs it as a network card, it doesn't even prompt for drivers. Besides, firewire is just a standard, no need to go out and buy some fancy name brand card, the drivers are all really the same, it's just that XP seems to like it to only be a networking device on my computer. On Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 5:56 am, Bob Harris wrote: >Maybe I was lucky, but XP automatically detected my firewire card (Adaptec Duo) as >firewire and installed the correct dirvers. If uninstalling and then detecting new >hardware in the device manager does not fix the problem, you might want to try a >manual installation, using one of those XP wizards. At some point during the installation >you should have to tell XP what type of device you have, and pick the manufacturer >and model, or provide your own drivers from the manufacturer's CD or pre-downloaded >from his website. Alternatively, get a new firewire card; they are fairly cheap. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Friday, July 18, 2003 at 10:04 pm Posted by Mark Mc (1 messages posted) I'm having the same problem with my onboard firewire and a simpletech 20gb firewire/usb2.0 pocket drive. Have you found a fix yet? Thanks, Mark On Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 4:33 pm, playerx wrote: >Heheh, still another negative. Thanks for the advice though. > I have a PCI firewire card, and my new motherboard has firewire built-in, and >un-installing and re-installing doesn't fix it, and it always automaticaly just installs >it as a network card, it doesn't even prompt for drivers. >Besides, firewire is just a standard, no need to go out and buy some fancy name brand >card, the drivers are all really the same, it's just that XP seems to like it to >only be a networking device on my computer. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 7:27 am Posted by corey (1 messages posted) It is not a mistake or a XP screwup, it just takes advantage of the fact you can do IP over 1394. All my FW devices show up as 1394 LAN Connections, and they all recognize devices when I plug them in. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310433 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307736 On Friday, April 11, 2003 at 4:50 pm, playerx wrote: > Has anyone encountered any issues when trying to setup Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage >devices, and the controller cards keep getting setup as 1394 Networking devices? > This is very annoying to me. > I just recently re-installed XP. My Digital Video camera was working just fine, >now it will not work the same. (I am unable to capture/edit video). Also I just >recently purchased some USB2/Firewire enclousures for extra storage, and I am unable >to use them via Firewire, because the controller cards keep automaticaly installing >as 1394 Network Devices. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 12:23 pm Posted by playerx (8 messages posted) newp. the time when my ieee1394 camera was working right, it never showed up as a "Lan" connection. On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 7:27 am, corey wrote: >It is not a mistake or a XP screwup, it just takes advantage of the fact you can >do IP over 1394. All my FW devices show up as 1394 LAN Connections, and they all >recognize devices when I plug them in. > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310433 >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307736 > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 9:48 am Posted by Tyler (1 messages posted) Have you tried just disabling the 1394 network device? The drivers for the storage/camera devices should remain enabled and functinal even though you disable the 1394 as a NIC. On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 12:23 pm, playerx wrote: > >newp. >the time when my ieee1394 camera was working right, it never showed up as a "Lan" >connection. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 7:04 pm Posted by rav (1 messages posted) I faced the same issue while connecting a maxtor external storage device. But i solved it by just letting the 1394 network adapter to show up in the device manager as enabled but powering the external storage device on or off. Some firewire devices do not detect firewire connectivity to a computer with xp unless they are powered on or off. Hope this works for you too. On Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 9:48 am, Tyler wrote: > >Have you tried just disabling the 1394 network device? The drivers for the storage/camera >devices should remain enabled and functinal even though you disable the 1394 as a >NIC. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Monday, August 4, 2003 at 6:02 pm Posted by nigew (2 messages posted) I have exactly the same problem, The firewire card is installed properly and a 1394 Net Adapter appears in the Network adapters of the Device Manager. I found the general troubleshooting guide says that the internal 4 pin additional power coupling may help BUT it cannot come from the bus! quote: - Device That Is Bus-Powered Is Not Getting Power: Many host controllers that supply power must be connected to a power source inside the system casing, usually by the same type of power connector that is used for internal drives. NEC controllers are a good example of this. To resolve this issue, verify that the power has been connected. Also, a 4-pin device cannot draw power from the bus and must be plugged into a separate power source. Always connect a 4-pin device to the end of the device chain. If you place a 4-pin device between the host controller and a device that must use power from the bus, the topology allows no power source for the 4-pin device. Either the power comes from the PSU or not !?! also IEEE 1394 Camcorder or Video Camera Is Not Listed in Programs:- Support for these devices comes from the Microsoft Streaming Class driver. Because of this, you cannot use the Cameras and Scanners tool in Control Panel to add the device. To resolve this issue, in your software, select Microsoft DV Camera and VCR if that option is available. id 314873 does your camera have streaming class drivers? nigew On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 12:23 pm, playerx wrote: > >newp. >the time when my ieee1394 camera was working right, it never showed up as a "Lan" >connection. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 3:00 am Posted by playerx (8 messages posted) My camera is a Sony PC-101 Digital Camera, it has USB and firewire connections. The USB works fine for transfering the stills from the camera. The firewire interface just wont work or something, (points at computer) I think since I originaly posted this message, I've re-installed my system _atleast_ 6 times, and still no luck. thanks alot MS. -r On Monday, August 4, 2003 at 6:02 pm, nigew wrote: >I have exactly the same problem, The firewire card is installed properly and a 1394 >Net Adapter appears in the Network adapters of the Device Manager. I found the general >troubleshooting guide says that the internal 4 pin additional power coupling may >help BUT it cannot come from the bus! > >quote: - >Device That Is Bus-Powered Is Not Getting Power: >Many host controllers that supply power must be connected to a power source inside >the system casing, usually by the same type of power connector that is used for internal >drives. NEC controllers are a good example of this. > >To resolve this issue, verify that the power has been connected. Also, a 4-pin device >cannot draw power from the bus and must be plugged into a separate power source. >Always connect a 4-pin device to the end of the device chain. If you place a 4-pin >device between the host controller and a device that must use power from the bus, >the topology allows no power source for the 4-pin device. > >Either the power comes from the PSU or not !?! > >also >IEEE 1394 Camcorder or Video Camera Is Not Listed in Programs:- >Support for these devices comes from the Microsoft Streaming Class driver. Because >of this, you cannot use the Cameras and Scanners tool in Control Panel to add the >device. > >To resolve this issue, in your software, select Microsoft DV Camera and VCR if that >option is available. > >id 314873 > >does your camera have streaming class drivers? > >nigew > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 8:35 am Posted by nigew (2 messages posted) Just seen this: - http://www.dvboard.com/archive/dvboard_2001_1/1975.html I can't for the life of me see why this would make any difference in a Plug-n-play system buy I'll try it later. It seems that the way forward may be to look at DirectX FAQ's, as history seems to show that the problem was resolved with version 8.1a but is back again with 9. 9b is now out, so I will download and try it. Have checked for XP hotfixes and not found anything related. Maybe later... One suggestion I read was to try a different cable! I'll keep looking. I have Matrox Marvel which is analogue, which only works in NT4 and 98. I have an external USB2 & Firewire Caddy with DVD-RW so want to use this and the camera under XP and do without 98. Both the camera and the caddy will not work with firewire ..Yet :-) nigew On Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 3:00 am, playerx wrote: >My camera is a Sony PC-101 Digital Camera, it has USB and firewire connections. >The USB works fine for transfering the stills from the camera. The firewire interface >just wont work or something, (points at computer) >I think since I originaly posted this message, I've re-installed my system _atleast_ >6 times, and still no luck. >thanks alot MS. >-r > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Monday, August 11, 2003 at 7:00 pm Posted by Patrick (2 messages posted) I have apparently a similar problem. I have a Maxtor firewire hard drive that worked fine for the longest time but while transferring a large amount of files (about 1 gig) over to it one day XP stopped recognizing it as a drive. The best I can get when powering it up and down is an icon in my computer with a red exclamation mark followed by: "F:/ refers to a location that is unavailable. It could be on a hard drive on this computer or on a network. Check to make sure that the disk is properly inserted or that you are connected to the internet or network and then try again. If it still cannot be located the information might have been moved to a different location." I've powered it down and powered it back up - no dice; tried reinstalling the firewire card - negative. The card works (verified with a digital camcorder) and the drive works (loaded up perfectly on another computer with Windows ME). This is terribly frustrating and the MS board is not useful. ANY help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. On Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 8:35 am, nigew wrote: >Just seen this: - >http://www.dvboard.com/archive/dvboard_2001_1/1975.html >I can't for the life of me see why this would make any difference in a Plug-n-play >system buy I'll try it later. It seems that the way forward may be to look at DirectX >FAQ's, as history seems to show that the problem was resolved with version 8.1a but >is back again with 9. 9b is now out, so I will download and try it. Have checked >for XP hotfixes and not found anything related. Maybe later... >One suggestion I read was to try a different cable! >I'll keep looking. >I have Matrox Marvel which is analogue, which only works in NT4 and 98. I have an >external USB2 & Firewire Caddy with DVD-RW so want to use this and the camera under >XP and do without 98. Both the camera and the caddy will not work with firewire ..Yet >:-) >nigew > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 2:01 am Posted by Tester (2 messages posted) Well, i had simulair problems and found this: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=9e8df3f3-cd0c-4edb-936a-5f0043e88bb2 This did the trick for me. On Friday, April 11, 2003 at 4:50 pm, playerx wrote: > Has anyone encountered any issues when trying to setup Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage >devices, and the controller cards keep getting setup as 1394 Networking devices? > This is very annoying to me. > I just recently re-installed XP. My Digital Video camera was working just fine, >now it will not work the same. (I am unable to capture/edit video). Also I just >recently purchased some USB2/Firewire enclousures for extra storage, and I am unable >to use them via Firewire, because the controller cards keep automaticaly installing >as 1394 Network Devices. > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=9e8df3f3-cd0c-4edb-936a-5f0043e88bb2 [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 11:50 am Posted by Javier (1 messages posted) HOW do you check if the power is connected in a NEC host controller in order to supply power through the IEEE 1394? I am using a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook with a PCMCIA 6-pin firewire card. Thanks. On Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 3:00 am, playerx wrote: >My camera is a Sony PC-101 Digital Camera, it has USB and firewire connections. >The USB works fine for transfering the stills from the camera. The firewire interface >just wont work or something, (points at computer) >I think since I originaly posted this message, I've re-installed my system _atleast_ >6 times, and still no luck. >thanks alot MS. >-r > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 4:31 pm Posted by playerx (8 messages posted) i belive 6 pin IEEE1394/firewire cables supply power. 4 pin cables do not. On Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 11:50 am, Javier wrote: >HOW do you check if the power is connected in a NEC host controller in order to supply >power through the IEEE 1394? I am using a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook with a PCMCIA >6-pin firewire card. > >Thanks. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage Device Issues Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 4:33 pm Posted by playerx (8 messages posted) Wow. Ok I forgot all about this post here... So it turned out that the IEEE1394/Firewire hardware in my camera got fried by something. I got my camera fixed. But I haven't had the opportunity to play with it in a long while. On Friday, April 11, 2003 at 4:50 pm, playerx wrote: > > Has anyone encountered any issues when trying to setup Firewire/IEEE1394 Storage >devices, and the controller cards keep getting setup as 1394 Networking devices? > This is very annoying to me. > I just recently re-installed XP. My Digital Video camera was working just fine, >now it will not work the same. (I am unable to capture/edit video). Also I just >recently purchased some USB2/Firewire enclousures for extra storage, and I am unable >to use them via Firewire, because the controller cards keep automaticaly installing >as 1394 Network Devices. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows XP Discussion Forum