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Question about 'Stop Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk'
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Question about 'Stop Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk'
Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 7:15 am
Posted by Miss X
(89 messages posted)
I have a question about Stop
Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk:
I have few questions considering the swap file size. I'm soon to have 768 ram, and
i will need to change the paging file size then. I'd need to know whether i can change
the file place to another drive, and most off all.. off the ntfs to fat32 drive?
Or, should i reformat the fat32 drive to be ntfs first? Also, do i really need to
have it as 1.5 times bigger the ram is, or can i make it smaller? My harddrive (partitied
into 4 drives) is 30 gb 5400rpm, motherboard single processor tyan trinity kt-a,
can i even move the paging file to another drive without ending up crashing? Help
would be very much needed and apprecciated:=)
Something also for who have disabled the indexing service in xp through admin tools...
check into add/remove programs, windows part, remove it off your system as well,
if it is installed. My common sense says if isn't there, it won't run there. (?
Talking about windows, everything impossible is possible?)
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re: Question about 'Stop Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk'
Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Ricer46
(23823 messages posted)
"can change the file place to another drive..."
yes, highly recommended.
"should i reformat the fat32 drive to be ntfs..."
doesn't matter.
"do i really need to have it as 1.5 times bigger the ram is, or can i make it smaller..."
Most people continue to say yes, I don't see why - with enough RAM you don't need
a swap file at all.
"My common sense says if isn't there, it won't run there..."
You should look here:
http://www.blkviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
On Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 7:15 am, Miss X wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk:
>
>
>I have few questions considering the swap file size. I'm soon to have 768 ram, and
>i will need to change the paging file size then. I'd need to know whether i can
change
>the file place to another drive, and most off all.. off the ntfs to fat32 drive?
>Or, should i reformat the fat32 drive to be ntfs first? Also, do i really need to
>have it as 1.5 times bigger the ram is, or can i make it smaller? My harddrive (partitied
>into 4 drives) is 30 gb 5400rpm, motherboard single processor tyan trinity kt-a,
>can i even move the paging file to another drive without ending up crashing? Help
>would be very much needed and apprecciated:=)
>Something also for who have disabled the indexing service in xp through admin tools...
>check into add/remove programs, windows part, remove it off your system as well,
>if it is installed. My common sense says if isn't there, it won't run there. (?
>Talking about windows, everything impossible is possible?)
>
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re: Question about 'Stop Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk'
Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Miss X
(89 messages posted)
Hey and thank you for the prompt answers, i'm newbie with xp and couldn't find anywhere
info on the issue. I use lots applications which need memory, so i bet i have to
leave there some kind of paging file in case i multitask too much.. but glad to know
i can move it into that fat32 drive!
Just got the same url through mail, so i'm about to read through it.. your answer
hints i was wrong..for some reason it doesn't surpise me at all..Thanks again:=)
On Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 12:00 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>"can change the file place to another drive..."
>yes, highly recommended.
>
>"should i reformat the fat32 drive to be ntfs..."
>doesn't matter.
>
>"do i really need to have it as 1.5 times bigger the ram is, or can i make it smaller..."
>Most people continue to say yes, I don't see why - with enough RAM you don't need
>a swap file at all.
>
>"My common sense says if isn't there, it won't run there..."
>You should look here:
>http://www.blkviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
>
>
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re: Question about 'Stop Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk'
Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Magician
(63 messages posted)
Couple of things I think I should mention.
Moving your swap file to a different PHYSICAL drive is an excellent idea, moving
to a LOGICAL drive (on the same physical disk) is not so good. It will just make
the system run slower since it cannot access the pagefile in parallel to reading
the executable etc, it needs instead to halt one read/write operation, scan the disk
to the pagefile, write the data to the pagefile, halt that operation and scan the
disk back to the original read/write operation. On physically separate disks those
two tasks can be carried out nearly in parallel and the performance benefit on a
system that uses its pagefile a lot is noticable.
Which carries me onto the next point, do you need to set your pagefile to 1.5x your
RAM? No, not if you have more the 512MB, as you do. Like Ricer46 says, its common
sense. the pagefile is used as an overflow when the RAM is full and unless you are
doing some seriously memory intensive stuff (DVD editting maybe?) you will have a
hard time overflowing 768MB
Do the maths quickly, if I have 64MB for RAM then a 96MB pagefile makes sense, if
I have 512MB or RAM then a 768MB pagefile is silly. I personally have 1gig of RAM
and I DO NOT need a 1.5gig pagefile! XP uses maybe 140MB (or 200MB if you have all
your services running - see the excellent Black Viper site Ricer46 pointed you too),
that leaves around 600MB of RAM for XP to use, it doesn't need 768MB of pagefile
too. I would recommend 100MB pagefile (some games complain if they can't see a pagefile,
even if that dont need it).
I'm not trying to sound patronizing (apologies if I do), I'm just trying tto give
you a solid reply.
Just have fun with it :-)
On Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 7:15 am, Miss X wrote:
>I have a question about Stop
>Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk:
>
>
>I have few questions considering the swap file size. I'm soon to have 768 ram, and
>i will need to change the paging file size then. I'd need to know whether i can
change
>the file place to another drive, and most off all.. off the ntfs to fat32 drive?
>Or, should i reformat the fat32 drive to be ntfs first? Also, do i really need to
>have it as 1.5 times bigger the ram is, or can i make it smaller? My harddrive (partitied
>into 4 drives) is 30 gb 5400rpm, motherboard single processor tyan trinity kt-a,
>can i even move the paging file to another drive without ending up crashing? Help
>would be very much needed and apprecciated:=)
>Something also for who have disabled the indexing service in xp through admin tools...
>check into add/remove programs, windows part, remove it off your system as well,
>if it is installed. My common sense says if isn't there, it won't run there. (?
>Talking about windows, everything impossible is possible?)
>
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re: Question about 'Stop Windows from Wildly Accessing your Hard Disk'
Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Miss X
(89 messages posted)
No, no, that wasn't patronizing at all, it's just what i needed to know! So i'll
lower it and let it tho be in the c drive, as i just have 1 real harddrive here...
I don't run games but i multitask lots, eg, it's pretty common i have 10 copies if
ie open, few graphics editors, ftp, html editor.. so, maybe it's best i'll lower
the size of it in periods ? and keep eye on taskmanager (I don't run english OS so
the term might be incorrect) and check which works the best.
I made few service changes last night and this pc didn't boot up today, so will have
to go few steps back:(
Fun, fun...lol
Thank you for all the information, and prompt explanations!
:=)
On Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 9:23 pm, Magician wrote:
>Couple of things I think I should mention.
>
>Moving your swap file to a different PHYSICAL drive is an excellent idea, moving
>to a LOGICAL drive (on the same physical disk) is not so good. It will just make
>the system run slower since it cannot access the pagefile in parallel to reading
>the executable etc, it needs instead to halt one read/write operation, scan the
disk
>to the pagefile, write the data to the pagefile, halt that operation and scan the
>disk back to the original read/write operation. On physically separate disks those
>two tasks can be carried out nearly in parallel and the performance benefit on a
>system that uses its pagefile a lot is noticable.
>
>Which carries me onto the next point, do you need to set your pagefile to 1.5x your
>RAM? No, not if you have more the 512MB, as you do. Like Ricer46 says, its common
>sense. the pagefile is used as an overflow when the RAM is full and unless you are
>doing some seriously memory intensive stuff (DVD editting maybe?) you will have
a
>hard time overflowing 768MB
>
>Do the maths quickly, if I have 64MB for RAM then a 96MB pagefile makes sense, if
>I have 512MB or RAM then a 768MB pagefile is silly. I personally have 1gig of RAM
>and I DO NOT need a 1.5gig pagefile! XP uses maybe 140MB (or 200MB if you have all
>your services running - see the excellent Black Viper site Ricer46 pointed you too),
>that leaves around 600MB of RAM for XP to use, it doesn't need 768MB of pagefile
>too. I would recommend 100MB pagefile (some games complain if they can't see a pagefile,
>even if that dont need it).
>
>I'm not trying to sound patronizing (apologies if I do), I'm just trying tto give
>you a solid reply.
>
>Just have fun with it :-)
>
>
>
>
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