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DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:55 am
Posted by Michael Gmirkin (5 messages posted)

Hahaha... Whoever wrote this article doesn't klnow what they're talking about. they said that Dos games don't run under windows 2000/XP, and we'll never find any that do. Bullshit. Every game I've tried to run so far have run flawlessly under XP. I think it's funny that M$ has said it no longer relies on DOS for its underpinnings, doesn't support DOS programs, blah blah blah. Even cynics believe their press. I had an entire folder of folders of games that I pulled directly off a DOS/Win95 machine that were made to run under DOS. I'm running right now under Windows XP Pro Wolfenstein 3D episodes 1-6 full with no error whatsoever. Quite flawless, actually. Amazingly pretty much all the games recognize the sound card, the mouse, etc. Better even than they did originally under DOS proper! So, it's pretty much bull that DOS programs don't work. Occasionally, I have to flip a setting or two, but no worse than under DOS itself, usually with far better support.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am
Posted by Ricer46 (23825 messages posted)

I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows XP, 
in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee that 
they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support DOS 
programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. I have 
some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.

The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will work 
is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."

The only BS here is you.





On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:55 am, Michael Gmirkin wrote: >Hahaha... Whoever wrote this article doesn't klnow what they're talking about. they >said that Dos games don't run under windows 2000/XP, and we'll never find any that >do. Bullshit. Every game I've tried to run so far have run flawlessly under XP. I >think it's funny that M$ has said it no longer relies on DOS for its underpinnings, >doesn't support DOS programs, blah blah blah. Even cynics believe their press. I >had an entire folder of folders of games that I pulled directly off a DOS/Win95 machine >that were made to run under DOS. I'm running right now under Windows XP Pro Wolfenstein >3D episodes 1-6 full with no error whatsoever. Quite flawless, actually. Amazingly >pretty much all the games recognize the sound card, the mouse, etc. Better even >than they did originally under DOS proper! So, it's pretty much bull that DOS programs >don't work. Occasionally, I have to flip a setting or two, but no worse than under >DOS itself, usually with far better support.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Michael Gmirkin (5 messages posted)

Well, then you didn't look very hard, did you? let me quote the following: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-014 "Many DOS games simply won't run under Windows 9x/Me, and I'll bet you'll never find one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP. Here are some tips: " First of all, of course DOS games work unnder 95/98. If not directly from windows, then simply booting to the DOS prompt usually remedies this problem. Hell even IN WINDOWS you can specify in the program properties to "run in DOS mode." And this article I was referring to states quite explicitly, and quite incorrectly, "I'll bet you'll never find one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP." This is the bull I'm referring to. The author had quite obviously never tried it himself, or he'd know that (at least of the sampling I tried) 70-80% of DOS games work just fine under XP. I was running Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem 3D, raptor, One Must Fall, Othello, Atom, Ataxx (though for some reason it wouldn't accept keyboard input for moves even though it did accept keyboard input to select the difficulty level, and I'm sure with time I can troubleshoot that out). About the only program I like that I haven't YET gotten to run is Tyrian. I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of finding the right settings, just like Duke 3D, which wouldn't run until set to 320X200 in its setup program, now runs beautifully. Kinda' funny how fast it runs with a G3 Ti200 128MB card in the machine. ;o] Anyway, I was simply pointing out that someone hadn't done their homework when posting, kinda' like you... Hmm, next time, read the article I'm referring to before misinformedly flaming. Thank you. And it was a fairly major article directly under "troubleshooting" link on the left "Why doesn't my extra cool DOS game work in windows?"


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am, Ricer46 wrote:

>I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows XP, 
>in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee that 
>they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support DOS 
>programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. I 
have 
>some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.
>
>The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will work 
>is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."
>
>The only BS here is you.
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Adam Bradley (8787 messages posted)

in the future use the "discuss this article with other Windows users" feature at the bottom of the article
that way a link will be inserted pointing to the article and we might have a clue what your talking about
we can't read your mind so the words you type are our only source of info on the post
if it really bugs you Contact Annoyances.org about it we don't control this site they do
regards, Adam Bradley


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 12:18 pm, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>Well, then you didn't look very hard, did you? let me quote the following: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-014
>
>"Many DOS games simply won't run under Windows 9x/Me, and I'll bet you'll never find
>one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP. Here are some tips: "
>
>First of all, of course DOS games work unnder 95/98. If not directly from windows,
>then simply booting to the DOS prompt usually remedies this problem. Hell even IN
>WINDOWS you can specify in the program properties to "run in DOS mode."
>
>And this article I was referring to states quite explicitly, and quite incorrectly,
>"I'll bet you'll never find one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP." This is
>the bull I'm referring to. The author had quite obviously never tried it himself,
>or he'd know that (at least of the sampling I tried) 70-80% of DOS games work just
>fine under XP. I was running Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem 3D, raptor, One Must Fall,
>Othello, Atom, Ataxx (though for some reason it wouldn't accept keyboard input for
>moves even though it did accept keyboard input to select the difficulty level, and
>I'm sure with time I can troubleshoot that out). About the only program I like that
>I haven't YET gotten to run is Tyrian. I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of finding
>the right settings, just like Duke 3D, which wouldn't run until set to 320X200 in
>its setup program, now runs beautifully. Kinda' funny how fast it runs with a G3
>Ti200 128MB card in the machine. ;o]
>
>Anyway, I was simply pointing out that someone hadn't done their homework when posting,
>kinda' like you... Hmm, next time, read the article I'm referring to before misinformedly
>flaming. Thank you. And it was a fairly major article directly under "troubleshooting"
>link on the left "Why doesn't my extra cool DOS game work in windows?"
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Ricer46 (23825 messages posted)

No, I wasn't going to look for your needle in the haystack. I read the postings in the forum and in the past 8 or 9 months no such claims have been made. So you're addressing your rants and raves to the wrong people. I don't really give a flip where you read it, but you didn't read it in the XP forum. So figure out how this works and stop sounding like a lunatic.


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 12:18 pm, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>Well, then you didn't look very hard, did you? let me quote the following: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-014
>
>"Many DOS games simply won't run under Windows 9x/Me, and I'll bet you'll never find
>one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP. Here are some tips: "
>
>First of all, of course DOS games work unnder 95/98. If not directly from windows,
>then simply booting to the DOS prompt usually remedies this problem. Hell even IN
>WINDOWS you can specify in the program properties to "run in DOS mode."
>
>And this article I was referring to states quite explicitly, and quite incorrectly,
>"I'll bet you'll never find one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP." This is
>the bull I'm referring to. The author had quite obviously never tried it himself,
>or he'd know that (at least of the sampling I tried) 70-80% of DOS games work just
>fine under XP. I was running Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem 3D, raptor, One Must Fall,
>Othello, Atom, Ataxx (though for some reason it wouldn't accept keyboard input for
>moves even though it did accept keyboard input to select the difficulty level, and
>I'm sure with time I can troubleshoot that out). About the only program I like that
>I haven't YET gotten to run is Tyrian. I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of finding
>the right settings, just like Duke 3D, which wouldn't run until set to 320X200 in
>its setup program, now runs beautifully. Kinda' funny how fast it runs with a G3
>Ti200 128MB card in the machine. ;o]
>
>Anyway, I was simply pointing out that someone hadn't done their homework when posting,
>kinda' like you... Hmm, next time, read the article I'm referring to before misinformedly
>flaming. Thank you. And it was a fairly major article directly under "troubleshooting"
>link on the left "Why doesn't my extra cool DOS game work in windows?"
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 2:32 am
Posted by jagged ben (3536 messages posted)

I knew what article you were talking about...

Can't say that Duke 3D at 320 by 200 works "beautifully" though.  That's damn ugly 
resolution.  The source code for Duke was just released a couple months ago, so Windows 
ports are starting to appear, a much better way to run duke in XP.  Try here.

http://www.rancidmeat.com/project.php3?id=1

Personally, I have to restart XP in VGA mode to run Duke or Doom (I use Doom Legacy 
now).  Probably because of my flat screen.

Oh, and Quake 1 does not run in XP.  (Although again there's a port available).  





On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 12:18 pm, Michael Gmirkin wrote: >Well, then you didn't look very hard, did you? let me quote the following: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-014 > >"Many DOS games simply won't run under Windows 9x/Me, and I'll bet you'll never find >one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP. Here are some tips: " > >First of all, of course DOS games work unnder 95/98. If not directly from windows, >then simply booting to the DOS prompt usually remedies this problem. Hell even IN >WINDOWS you can specify in the program properties to "run in DOS mode." > >And this article I was referring to states quite explicitly, and quite incorrectly, >"I'll bet you'll never find one that will run under Windows 2000 or XP." This is >the bull I'm referring to. The author had quite obviously never tried it himself, >or he'd know that (at least of the sampling I tried) 70-80% of DOS games work just >fine under XP. I was running Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem 3D, raptor, One Must Fall, >Othello, Atom, Ataxx (though for some reason it wouldn't accept keyboard input for >moves even though it did accept keyboard input to select the difficulty level, and >I'm sure with time I can troubleshoot that out). About the only program I like that >I haven't YET gotten to run is Tyrian. I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of finding >the right settings, just like Duke 3D, which wouldn't run until set to 320X200 in >its setup program, now runs beautifully. Kinda' funny how fast it runs with a G3 >Ti200 128MB card in the machine. ;o] > >Anyway, I was simply pointing out that someone hadn't done their homework when posting, >kinda' like you... Hmm, next time, read the article I'm referring to before misinformedly >flaming. Thank you. And it was a fairly major article directly under "troubleshooting" >link on the left "Why doesn't my extra cool DOS game work in windows?" >

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Michael Gmirkin (5 messages posted)

Hmm, weird. Screwy that their message threading sucks so bad. Most message boards link to the article you respondedd to, and it becomes part of a thread. Stupid that this oe list it as a response, but if you read only the response it doesn't like what was being responded to. Anyway, that's their fault. So, who cares?


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:11 pm, Adam Bradley wrote:
>in the future use the "discuss this article with other Windows users" feature at
>the bottom of the article

>that way a link will be inserted pointing to the article and we might have a clue
>what your talking about

>we can't read your mind so the words you type are our only source of info on the
>post

>if it really bugs you Contact
>Annoyances.org
about it we don't control this site they do

>regards, Adam Bradley
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Michael Gmirkin (5 messages posted)

It's not my fault their boards can't handle threads properly. Just about any robust message board software links your response to the message you responded to. How was I to know their system is so weak?


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:45 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>No, I wasn't going to look for your needle in the haystack. I read the postings in
>the forum and in the past 8 or 9 months no such claims have been made. So you're
>addressing your rants and raves to the wrong people. I don't really give a flip where
>you read it, but you didn't read it in the XP forum. So figure out how this works
>and stop sounding like a lunatic.
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Michael Gmirkin (5 messages posted)

Hmm, interesting. And amazingly a thoughtful post for once. ;] Much as I love flamers. Well, okay, Duke 3D is a little jagged in grgaphics, but no worse than the original was. ;] Garbage in garbage out. Point being, it does ruun, and quite well, even by comparison ot the original. And most of the game I played worked fine, with a couple exceptions. I just think it's funny M$ keeps claiming their stuff isn't based on DOS, etc. etc. but it still runs a good majority of the programs. When are they finally going to do something new and get away from the antiquity? Maybe Longhorn will do it if/when they get it working... Being theoretically based on a database model for the filesystem, etc... B@$t@rd$ stole my idea. ;]


On Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 2:32 am, jagged ben wrote:

>I knew what article you were talking about...
>
>Can't say that Duke 3D at 320 by 200 works "beautifully" though.  That's damn ugly 
>resolution.  The source code for Duke was just released a couple months ago, so 
Windows 
>ports are starting to appear, a much better way to run duke in XP.  Try here.
>
>http://www.rancidmeat.com/project.php3?id=1
>
>Personally, I have to restart XP in VGA mode to run Duke or Doom (I use Doom Legacy 
>now).  Probably because of my flat screen.
>
>Oh, and Quake 1 does not run in XP.  (Although again there's a port available). 
 
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Adam Bradley (8787 messages posted)

The threading is perfect here it is easy to follow as log as everyone plays by the rules
if used correctly the post does link to the article
but you must leave the pre-made link in the composition window
When done that way we know what your talking about
Regards, Adam Bradley


On Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 7:52 pm, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>Hmm, weird. Screwy that their message threading sucks so bad. Most message boards
>link to the article you respondedd to, and it becomes part of a thread. Stupid that
>this oe list it as a response, but if you read only the response it doesn't like
>what was being responded to. Anyway, that's their fault. So, who cares?
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm
Posted by marc margolies (8 messages posted)

I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's say they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the DOS and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't run in a DOS shell under XP. I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering reasonable--and truthful expectations seems unfair to me.


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am, Ricer46 wrote:

>I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows XP, 
>in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee that 
>they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support DOS 
>programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. I 
have 
>some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.
>
>The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will work 
>is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."
>
>The only BS here is you.
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Monday, August 11, 2003 at 12:45 am
Posted by who cares (3 messages posted)

having trouble with those DOS games...Cant seem to get the sound to work?. tired of trying to get your fav. adventure game to run on your new 100000mhz super sonic so called XP well look no further and get these 2 programs that will most prob. take care of all your worries my friend get 1: abandon loader and 2: vdmsound this will run almost all dos games and take care of ALL your problems!!!! ENJOY

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Monday, August 11, 2003 at 12:53 am
Posted by who cares (3 messages posted)

having trouble with those DOS games...Cant seem to get the sound to work?. tired of trying to get your fav. adventure game to run on your new 100000mhz super sonic so called XP well look no further and get these 2 programs that will most prob. take care of all your worries my friend get 1: abandon loader and 2: vdmsound this will run almost all dos games and take care of ALL your problems!!!! ENJOY


On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm, marc margolies wrote:
>I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's say
>they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the DOS
>and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't run
>in a DOS shell under XP.
>I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering reasonable--and
>truthful expectations seems unfair to me.
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Monday, August 11, 2003 at 12:53 am
Posted by who cares (3 messages posted)

having trouble with those DOS games...Cant seem to get the sound to work?. tired of trying to get your fav. adventure game to run on your new 100000mhz super sonic so called XP well look no further and get these 2 programs that will most prob. take care of all your worries my friend get 1: abandon loader and 2: vdmsound this will run almost all dos games and take care of ALL your problems!!!! ENJOY


On Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 2:32 am, jagged ben wrote:

>I knew what article you were talking about...
>
>Can't say that Duke 3D at 320 by 200 works "beautifully" though.  That's damn ugly 
>resolution.  The source code for Duke was just released a couple months ago, so 
Windows 
>ports are starting to appear, a much better way to run duke in XP.  Try here.
>
>http://www.rancidmeat.com/project.php3?id=1
>
>Personally, I have to restart XP in VGA mode to run Duke or Doom (I use Doom Legacy 
>now).  Probably because of my flat screen.
>
>Oh, and Quake 1 does not run in XP.  (Although again there's a port available). 
 
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Friday, October 17, 2003 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Bill Morris (4 messages posted)

Marc, I have a nice 32-bit DOS-based chess program that will run under XP but will crash if it gets docked. It requires TrueColor and 1024 x 768 capability on the graphics card. It highlights the computer's move with halos, thereby addressing the biggest complaint I have with chess programs. If you want I copy, I'll send you a zip. It's freeware, but it's normally distributed in a large package of similar programs.


On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm, marc margolies wrote:
>I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's say
>they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the DOS
>and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't run
>in a DOS shell under XP.
>I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering reasonable--and
>truthful expectations seems unfair to me.
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 12:02 am
Posted by marc margolies (8 messages posted)

thanks, bill that's quite kind of you. but i say no, at least for now. In fact I recieved 4!!!! new chess programs in the past two weeks, so my plate is kind of full. One of them is the excellent non-commercial program called ruffian1.05-- winboard engine. my biggest problem chesswise at the moment is recompiling crafty19.4 source under gcc.optimizing for my chipset. Incidently rebel12(the problematic example of my previous post) is now made as a commercial windows compatible version which runs under winXP; consequently that means all the previous dos versions are available as a free download-- if collect analytical chess engines, you ought snap up the old rebel for free while it is still available. btw, bill,what is your program callled?


On Friday, October 17, 2003 at 6:50 pm, Bill Morris wrote:
>Marc,
>
>I have a nice 32-bit DOS-based chess program that will run under XP but will crash
>if it gets docked. It requires TrueColor and 1024 x 768 capability on the graphics
>card. It highlights the computer's move with halos, thereby addressing the biggest
>complaint I have with chess programs.
>If you want I copy, I'll send you a zip. It's freeware, but it's normally distributed
>in a large package of similar programs.
>
>
>
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 8:52 am
Posted by Bill Morris (4 messages posted)

Marc, actually, what I've got is a whole DOS-based GUI that is not a Windoze clone but an LCARS clone, called LCARS 24B. It includes a bundled chess program, but that program can run independently under DOS or Windoze. Its screen display is set in one of the LCARS screen types. The chess engine I used is Faile, with the original author's permission. He had it set up to work with WinBoard, and I plugged his code into my LCARS API. Basically, I could probably do the same with Ruffin, but I only need one chess program. The one nice innovation I added that I would like to see others consider is a halo behind the computer's piece that has just moved and on the square where that piece was previously--in case you weren't watching when the computer moved. Also, the program is not too big, and the user can easily add a different book. I have six games bundled with the package. The whole thing is an alternative to the whole Mac/Smalltalk/Win paradigm, with no scroll bars, icons, etc. It looks like the computers on Star Trek Voyager and is programmed with DJGPP. My original question was about the problem with XP's ACPI sleep mode. I'm wondering if someone has or could put together a nonverbose (not producing any screen display) Win32 program that temporarily turns that off and that my main program could spawn at startup and again at shutdown to turn it off. Users could do it from the Control Panel, I guess, but since this is a freeware thing, some people might have trouble doing that or wouldn't (and perhaps shouldn't have to) bother. Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 12:02 am, marc margolies wrote:
>thanks, bill that's quite kind of you. but i say no, at least for now.
>In fact I recieved 4!!!! new chess programs in the past two weeks, so my plate is
>kind of full. One of them is the excellent non-commercial program called ruffian1.05--
>winboard engine. my biggest problem chesswise at the moment is recompiling crafty19.4
>source under gcc.optimizing for my chipset.
>Incidently rebel12(the problematic example of my previous post) is now made as a
>commercial windows compatible version which runs under winXP; consequently that means
>all the previous dos versions are available as a free download-- if collect analytical
>chess engines, you ought snap up the old rebel for free while it is still available.
>btw, bill,what is your program callled?
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 12:12 pm
Posted by marc margolies (8 messages posted)

your work sounds interesting to me. there is a moderated chess programmer's bulletin board called talkchess.com have you heard of it? you might find some like-minded friends there! I think also that alot of early adopters of WinXP long-ago disabled the go-to-sleep options on their systems because of the known bug where the machine would hibernate during long downloads ( and download will fail). I do not recall MS announcing a fix for this, but I never honestly bothered to look for it.


On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 8:52 am, Bill Morris wrote:
>Marc, actually, what I've got is a whole DOS-based GUI that is not a Windoze clone
>but an LCARS clone, called LCARS 24B. It includes a bundled chess program, but that
>program can run independently under DOS or Windoze. Its screen display is set in
> one of the LCARS screen types. The chess engine I used is Faile, with the original
>author's permission. He had it set up to work with WinBoard, and I plugged his code
>into my LCARS API. Basically, I could probably do the same with Ruffin, but I only
>need one chess program. The one nice innovation I added that I would like to see
>others consider is a halo behind the computer's piece that has just moved and on
>the square where that piece was previously--in case you weren't watching when the
>computer moved. Also, the program is not too big, and the user can easily add a
>different book. I have six games bundled with the package. The whole thing is an
>alternative to the whole Mac/Smalltalk/Win paradigm, with no scroll bars, icons,
>etc. It looks like the computers on Star Trek Voyager and is programmed with DJGPP.
>
>
>My original question was about the problem with XP's ACPI sleep mode. I'm wondering
>if someone has or could put together a nonverbose (not producing any screen display)
>Win32 program that temporarily turns that off and that my main program could spawn
>at startup and again at shutdown to turn it off. Users could do it from the Control
>Panel, I guess, but since this is a freeware thing, some people might have trouble
>doing that or wouldn't (and perhaps shouldn't have to) bother.
>
>
>
> Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 12:02 am, marc margolies wrote:
>thanks, bill that's quite kind of you. but i say no, at least for now.
>In fact I recieved 4!!!! new chess programs in the past two weeks, so my plate is
>kind of full. One of them is the excellent non-commercial program called ruffian1.05--
>winboard engine. my biggest problem chesswise at the moment is recompiling crafty19.4
>source under gcc.optimizing for my chipset.
>Incidently rebel12(the problematic example of my previous post) is now made as a
>commercial windows compatible version which runs under winXP; consequently that
>means
>all the previous dos versions are available as a free download-- if collect analytical
>chess engines, you ought snap up the old rebel for free while it is still available.
>btw, bill,what is your program callled?
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, October 25, 2003 at 10:11 am
Posted by Scott Knight (1 messages posted)

For your information: My DOS supported Scriptware program does NOT work under Windows XP. Sfter considerable hours of manipulations for such options as overwrite, spellcheck, change of scenes, etc. I called teck support who let me know that the DOS supported version of this program never has worked under Windows XP. It does under Windows 98 but not under XP.. Do I need to repeat that?


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:55 am, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>Hahaha... Whoever wrote this article doesn't klnow what they're talking about. they
>said that Dos games don't run under windows 2000/XP, and we'll never find any that
>do. Bullshit. Every game I've tried to run so far have run flawlessly under XP. I
>think it's funny that M$ has said it no longer relies on DOS for its underpinnings,
>doesn't support DOS programs, blah blah blah. Even cynics believe their press. I
>had an entire folder of folders of games that I pulled directly off a DOS/Win95 machine
>that were made to run under DOS. I'm running right now under Windows XP Pro Wolfenstein
>3D episodes 1-6 full with no error whatsoever. Quite flawless, actually. Amazingly
>pretty much all the games recognize the sound card, the mouse, etc. Better even
>than they did originally under DOS proper! So, it's pretty much bull that DOS programs
>don't work. Occasionally, I have to flip a setting or two, but no worse than under
>DOS itself, usually with far better support.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Peter (1 messages posted)

I have a game ... the DOS version Master Of Orion2 II. It will run under XP - except for the Multi-player feature. It uses IPX and XP it not happy and the game crashes with a "Comms Error". The solution was to use Virtual PC (formally Connetix) from microsoft and run the DOS game in a Windows 98 Window under DOS. Some problems associated with the DOS Master Of Orion II game was in fact nothing to do with XP. There were problems running the game in PC's with more than 512MB of memory, the solution is to change the memory properties for the .exe to a high-spec PC at the time the game was written - in this case we set the EMS / XMS / DPMI to 16meg each. Other problems encountered under XP involved Graphics card drivers and we had to wait for the manufacturer to catch-up with XP and write an XP specific driver.


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:55 am, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>Hahaha...

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Wednesday, January 7, 2004 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Joel MacDonald (1 messages posted)

How about the DOS game, Silent Service II. I just installed it on my XP Pro system and I can't get the sound to play on my Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2. I get only the PC speaker sounds. I tried to change the batch file from IBM to Adlib but the batch file then wouldn't play.


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:55 am, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>Hahaha... Whoever wrote this article doesn't klnow what they're talking about. they
>said that Dos games don't run under windows 2000/XP, and we'll never find any that
>do. Bullshit. Every game I've tried to run so far have run flawlessly under XP. I
>think it's funny that M$ has said it no longer relies on DOS for its underpinnings,
>doesn't support DOS programs, blah blah blah. Even cynics believe their press. I
>had an entire folder of folders of games that I pulled directly off a DOS/Win95 machine
>that were made to run under DOS. I'm running right now under Windows XP Pro Wolfenstein
>3D episodes 1-6 full with no error whatsoever. Quite flawless, actually. Amazingly
>pretty much all the games recognize the sound card, the mouse, etc. Better even
>than they did originally under DOS proper! So, it's pretty much bull that DOS programs
>don't work. Occasionally, I have to flip a setting or two, but no worse than under
>DOS itself, usually with far better support.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 12:24 am
Posted by Steve Lyons (1 messages posted)

The real problem I have is with the Origin "flight sim" style games eg: Strike Commander, Wings of Glory, Privateer etc. These programs all require VCPI (Virtual Control Program Interface) compliance, which as far as i can work out XP doesn't have, or if it does I can't work out how to get it started. Anyone been able to crack this nut? I found a fix for '98 but as yet not XP!


On Saturday, October 25, 2003 at 10:11 am, Scott Knight wrote:
>For your information: My DOS supported Scriptware program does NOT work under Windows
>XP. Sfter considerable hours of manipulations for such options as overwrite, spellcheck,
>change of scenes, etc. I called teck support who let me know that the DOS supported
>version of this program never has worked under Windows XP. It does under Windows
>98 but not under XP.. Do I need to repeat that?
>
>

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re: Tyrian (error 200)
Sunday, February 1, 2004 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Elliot_009 (1 messages posted)

Actually Michael, Tyrian's problems (at least the original Tyrian, I don't know about 
Tyrian 2000) lie in a timing problem with faster computers generated by an old version 
the Turbo C libraries used to compile it.  To fix this problem, assuming that you're 
getting the "Error 200" messages:

Use PatchCRT (http://www.kennedysoftware.ie/patchcrt.htm) to patch the following 
files:
Setup.exe
File0001.exe

This should fix Tyrian.




On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 12:18 pm, Michael Gmirkin wrote: >About the only program I like that >I haven't YET gotten to run is Tyrian. I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of finding >the right settings, just like Duke 3D, which wouldn't run until set to 320X200 in >its setup program, now runs beautifully.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Friday, February 6, 2004 at 6:00 am
Posted by johhny (2 messages posted)

Forget about games, fdisk- a dos program for partitioning and formatting wont work under XP and disk manager wont friggin format FAT32 partitions bigger than 32 GB which is crap meaning you want to format a big external hard disk partition youve gotta go back to win 98.


On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:55 am, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>Hahaha... Whoever wrote this article doesn't klnow what they're talking about. they
>said that Dos games don't run under windows 2000/XP, and we'll never find any that
>do. Bullshit. Every game I've tried to run so far have run flawlessly under XP. I
>think it's funny that M$ has said it no longer relies on DOS for its underpinnings,
>doesn't support DOS programs, blah blah blah. Even cynics believe their press. I
>had an entire folder of folders of games that I pulled directly off a DOS/Win95 machine
>that were made to run under DOS. I'm running right now under Windows XP Pro Wolfenstein
>3D episodes 1-6 full with no error whatsoever. Quite flawless, actually. Amazingly
>pretty much all the games recognize the sound card, the mouse, etc. Better even
>than they did originally under DOS proper! So, it's pretty much bull that DOS programs
>don't work. Occasionally, I have to flip a setting or two, but no worse than under
>DOS itself, usually with far better support.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Thursday, March 18, 2004 at 11:09 am
Posted by Peter Foley (1 messages posted)

Actually, I had that exact problem... but with a different game, The Red Baron. 
The link below will take you to some freeware that perfects your sound for DOS based 
games... enjoy!


http://ntvdm.cjb.net/






On Wednesday, January 7, 2004 at 9:32 pm, Joel MacDonald wrote:
>How about the DOS game, Silent Service II. I just installed it on my XP Pro system
>and I can't get the sound to play on my Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2. I get
>only the PC speaker sounds. I tried to change the batch file from IBM to Adlib but
>the batch file then wouldn't play.
>
>
>On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 2:55 am, Michael Gmirkin wrote:
>>Hahaha... Whoever wrote this article doesn't klnow what they're talking about. they
>>said that Dos games don't run under windows 2000/XP, and we'll never find any that
>>do. Bullshit. Every game I've tried to run so far have run flawlessly under XP.
>I
>>think it's funny that M$ has said it no longer relies on DOS for its underpinnings,
>>doesn't support DOS programs, blah blah blah. Even cynics believe their press. I
>>had an entire folder of folders of games that I pulled directly off a DOS/Win95
>machine
>>that were made to run under DOS. I'm running right now under Windows XP Pro Wolfenstein
>>3D episodes 1-6 full with no error whatsoever. Quite flawless, actually. Amazingly
>>pretty much all the games recognize the sound card, the mouse, etc. Better even
>>than they did originally under DOS proper! So, it's pretty much bull that DOS programs
>>don't work. Occasionally, I have to flip a setting or two, but no worse than under
>>DOS itself, usually with far better support.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Frank Rubin (3 messages posted)

I have come late to this discussion, and I may have missed something. I don't have a Windows XP system. I didn't buy one because the sales people at Circuit City told me that Windows XP could not run DOS programs. Everything I use is a DOS program, my text editor, my compiler, my word processor, my mailing list program, all of the compilers I use, and all of the programs that I have written -- they are all DOS programs. So, if there is any way to run these programs under Windows XP I would like to know how. Otherwise, I simply cannot use any of the newer computers. I will have to keep repairing my old computer until it becomes impossible.


On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm, marc margolies wrote:
>I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's say
>they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the DOS
>and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't run
>in a DOS shell under XP.
>I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering reasonable--and
>truthful expectations seems unfair to me.
>
>
>On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am, Ricer46 wrote:
>

>>I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows XP, 
>>in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee that 
>>they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support DOS 
>>programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. I 
>have 
>>some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.
>>
>>The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will work 
>>is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."
>>
>>The only BS here is you.
>>
>>
 

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Adam Bradley (8787 messages posted)

They may or may not run, unless you try them or find someone that has you'll never know
Some MS-DOS programs work, others work with tweaking and some never will regardless of what you do
If you have a friend with an XP computer try running them on it
But if these apps are critical and updating to newer ones is not an option then XP is likely not a good choice for you
regards, Adam Bradley


On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 4:55 pm, Frank Rubin wrote:
>I have come late to this discussion, and I may have missed something. I don't have
>a Windows XP system. I didn't buy one because the sales people at Circuit City told
>me that Windows XP could not run DOS programs. Everything I use is a DOS program,
>my text editor, my compiler, my word processor, my mailing list program, all of the
>compilers I use, and all of the programs that I have written -- they are all DOS
>programs.
>
>So, if there is any way to run these programs under Windows XP I would like to know
>how. Otherwise, I simply cannot use any of the newer computers. I will have to
>keep repairing my old computer until it becomes impossible.
>
>
>
>On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm, marc margolies wrote:
>>I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's say
>>they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the DOS
>>and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't run
>>in a DOS shell under XP.
>>I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering reasonable--and
>>truthful expectations seems unfair to me.
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am, Ricer46 wrote:
>>

>>>I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows XP, 
>>>in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee 
that 
>>>they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support DOS 
>>>programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. 
I 
>>have 
>>>some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.
>>>
>>>The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will work 
>>>is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."
>>>
>>>The only BS here is you.
>>>
>>>
>  

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 12:09 am
Posted by Frank Rubin (3 messages posted)

Adam, thank you for your response. Even though all of the "experts" in the local computer stores assured me that Windows XP did not have DOS, and could not run DOS programs, I discovered after much digging, that if I clicked on "Start" then "Programs" then "All programs" then "Accessories" lo and behold, there was the DOS icon. And, if I dragged that icon to the desktop, and right clicked it, and then clicked "Properties" I got a whole raft of options that let me get a fairly usable DOS. There are some defects, like the character size is tiny (and selecting a larger size does not help), and it does not do a carriage return after a program writes an error message to the screen, but by and large it is usable.

Maybe the worst defect is that printing a document is sloo-o-ow and intermittent. It stops, it scratches its head, it takes a sip of coffee, and then it goes and prints a few more lines. I guess it has better things to do than printing.

I am told that creating a windows program is a major job, and I have something like 700 programs that I would need to convert, so going to Windows is not a possibility.


On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 7:31 pm, Adam Bradley wrote:
>They may or may not run, unless you try them or find someone that has you'll never
>know

>Some MS-DOS programs work, others work with tweaking and some never will regardless
>of what you do

>If you have a friend with an XP computer try running them on it

>But if these apps are critical and updating to newer ones is not an option then XP
>is likely not a good choice for you
>
regards, Adam Bradley
>
>
>On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 4:55 pm, Frank Rubin wrote:
>>I have come late to this discussion, and I may have missed something. I don't have
>>a Windows XP system. I didn't buy one because the sales people at Circuit City
>told
>>me that Windows XP could not run DOS programs. Everything I use is a DOS program,
>>my text editor, my compiler, my word processor, my mailing list program, all of
>the
>>compilers I use, and all of the programs that I have written -- they are all DOS
>>programs.
>>
>>So, if there is any way to run these programs under Windows XP I would like to know
>>how. Otherwise, I simply cannot use any of the newer computers. I will have to
>>keep repairing my old computer until it becomes impossible.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm, marc margolies wrote:
>>>I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's say
>
>>>they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the DOS
>
>>>and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't
>run
>>>in a DOS shell under XP.
>>>I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering reasonable--and
>
>>>truthful expectations seems unfair to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am, Ricer46 wrote:
>>>

>>>>I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows 
XP, 
>>>>in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee 
>that 
>>>>they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support 
DOS 
>>>>programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. 
>I 
>>>have 
>>>>some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.
>>>>
>>>>The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will work 
>>>>is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."
>>>>
>>>>The only BS here is you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>   

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 5:11 am
Posted by Adam Bradley (8787 messages posted)

The people you talked to are half right
XP has a DOS emultor rather than true MS-DOS, but it will run some MS-DOS programs
jagged ben has a good explanation of what the difference is see re: ms-dos
regards, Adam Bradley


On Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 12:09 am, Frank Rubin wrote:
>Adam, thank you for your response. Even though all of the "experts" in the local
>computer stores assured me that Windows XP did not have DOS, and could not run DOS
>programs, I discovered after much digging, that if I clicked on "Start" then "Programs"
>then "All programs" then "Accessories" lo and behold, there was the DOS icon. And,
>if I dragged that icon to the desktop, and right clicked it, and then clicked "Properties"
>I got a whole raft of options that let me get a fairly usable DOS. There are some
>defects, like the character size is tiny (and selecting a larger size does not help),
>and it does not do a carriage return after a program writes an error message to the
>screen, but by and large it is usable.

Maybe the worst defect is that printing
>a document is sloo-o-ow and intermittent. It stops, it scratches its head, it takes
>a sip of coffee, and then it goes and prints a few more lines. I guess it has better
>things to do than printing.

I am told that creating a windows program is
>a major job, and I have something like 700 programs that I would need to convert,
>so going to Windows is not a possibility.
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 7:31 pm, Adam Bradley wrote:
>>They may or may not run, unless you try them or find someone that has you'll never
>>know

>>Some MS-DOS programs work, others work with tweaking and some never will regardless
>>of what you do

>>If you have a friend with an XP computer try running them on it

>>But if these apps are critical and updating to newer ones is not an option then
>XP
>>is likely not a good choice for you
>>
regards, Adam Bradley
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 4:55 pm, Frank Rubin wrote:
>>>I have come late to this discussion, and I may have missed something. I don't
>have
>>>a Windows XP system. I didn't buy one because the sales people at Circuit City
>>told
>>>me that Windows XP could not run DOS programs. Everything I use is a DOS program,
>
>>>my text editor, my compiler, my word processor, my mailing list program, all of
>>the
>>>compilers I use, and all of the programs that I have written -- they are all DOS
>
>>>programs.
>>>
>>>So, if there is any way to run these programs under Windows XP I would like to
>know
>>>how. Otherwise, I simply cannot use any of the newer computers. I will have to
>
>>>keep repairing my old computer until it becomes impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm, marc margolies wrote:
>>>>I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's
>say
>>
>>>>they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the DOS
>>
>>>>and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't
>>run
>>>>in a DOS shell under XP.
>>>>I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering reasonable--and
>>
>>>>truthful expectations seems unfair to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am, Ricer46 wrote:
>>>>

>>>>>I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows 
>XP, 
>>>>>in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee 
>>that 
>>>>>they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support 
>DOS 
>>>>>programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. 
>>I 
>>>>have 
>>>>>some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.
>>>>>
>>>>>The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will 
work 
>>>>>is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."
>>>>>
>>>>>The only BS here is you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>    

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Frank Rubin (3 messages posted)

Jagged Ben just might have supplied the information I need to get DOS running decently. I figured out that right clicking the DOS icon and then clicking Properties would get me some useful options. Now I have DOS running in full screen mode instead of an oddly-placed window. The one thing I can't seem to do is to get a larger, more readable font. I have tried the Font tab within Properties, but my selection is ignored. It still gives me 50 lines of small tightly crowded text. I figure that it must be reading some control file that has options which override the Properties. Autoexec.nt and Config.nt seem like good candidates.


On Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 5:11 am, Adam Bradley wrote:
>The people you talked to are half right

>XP has a DOS emultor rather than true MS-DOS, but it will run some MS-DOS programs
>

>jagged ben has a good explanation of what the difference is see re:
>ms-dos


>regards, Adam Bradley
>
>
>On Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 12:09 am, Frank Rubin wrote:
>>Adam, thank you for your response. Even though all of the "experts" in the local
>>computer stores assured me that Windows XP did not have DOS, and could not run DOS
>>programs, I discovered after much digging, that if I clicked on "Start" then "Programs"
>>then "All programs" then "Accessories" lo and behold, there was the DOS icon. And,
>>if I dragged that icon to the desktop, and right clicked it, and then clicked "Properties"
>>I got a whole raft of options that let me get a fairly usable DOS. There are some
>>defects, like the character size is tiny (and selecting a larger size does not help),
>>and it does not do a carriage return after a program writes an error message to
>the
>>screen, but by and large it is usable.

Maybe the worst defect is that printing
>>a document is sloo-o-ow and intermittent. It stops, it scratches its head, it takes
>>a sip of coffee, and then it goes and prints a few more lines. I guess it has better
>>things to do than printing.

I am told that creating a windows program is
>>a major job, and I have something like 700 programs that I would need to convert,
>>so going to Windows is not a possibility.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 7:31 pm, Adam Bradley wrote:
>>>They may or may not run, unless you try them or find someone that has you'll never
>
>>>know

>>>Some MS-DOS programs work, others work with tweaking and some never will regardless
>
>>>of what you do

>>>If you have a friend with an XP computer try running them on it

>>>But if these apps are critical and updating to newer ones is not an option then
>>XP
>>>is likely not a good choice for you
>>>
regards, Adam Bradley
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 4:55 pm, Frank Rubin wrote:
>>>>I have come late to this discussion, and I may have missed something. I don't
>>have
>>>>a Windows XP system. I didn't buy one because the sales people at Circuit City
>
>>>told
>>>>me that Windows XP could not run DOS programs. Everything I use is a DOS program,
>>
>>>>my text editor, my compiler, my word processor, my mailing list program, all of
>
>>>the
>>>>compilers I use, and all of the programs that I have written -- they are all DOS
>>
>>>>programs.
>>>>
>>>>So, if there is any way to run these programs under Windows XP I would like to
>>know
>>>>how. Otherwise, I simply cannot use any of the newer computers. I will have
>to
>>
>>>>keep repairing my old computer until it becomes impossible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 4:02 pm, marc margolies wrote:
>>>>>I have a few dos chess programs that do not work under XP and the publisher's
>>say
>>>
>>>>>they wont as well. These progs have copy protection hooked directly into the
>DOS
>>>
>>>>>and as you know, the kernal which emulates DOS in XP is not DOS, so they won't
>
>>>run
>>>>>in a DOS shell under XP.
>>>>>I am glad your software runs, but attacking the original poster for offering
>reasonable--and
>>>
>>>>>truthful expectations seems unfair to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 8:22 am, Ricer46 wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>>>I have not seen any article that states DOS games will not run under Windows 
>>XP, 
>>>>>>in fact quite to the contrary. What has been written is there is no guarantee 
>>>that 
>>>>>>they will run, which is what is implied in the fact that M$ does not support 
>>DOS 
>>>>>>programs in XP. And it is for sure that not all DOS programs will work in XP. 
>>>I 
>>>>>have 
>>>>>>some that work just fine, I have others that sort of work, but are not useable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The general response here to those that ask if their favorite DOS game will 
>work 
>>>>>>is "try it and find out, maybe it will, maybe it won't."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The only BS here is you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>     

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Robert Brigman (1 messages posted)

After several attempts to run Ultima Underworld on my window xp machine, i have fail. could any one assist me with my error...the game runs and crashes too quickly to read message. so at the dos prompt i ran the game and it gave me an "out of memory " error message please anyone help if you can

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Making the display more readable in the Dos Emulator
Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Avinash Tauro (2 messages posted)

Frank, you can try the following commands at the DOS prompt to change the display settings.
>MODE CON (This will display the current display settings)
>MODE CON cols=80 lines=25 (This will change the display to the DOS windows of old)
>MODE /? (This will give you a lot more options you can tinker around with) All the best


On Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 9:45 pm, Frank Rubin wrote:
>Jagged Ben just might have supplied the information I need to get DOS running decently.
> I figured out that right clicking the DOS icon and then clicking Properties would
>get me some useful options. Now I have DOS running in full screen mode instead of
>an oddly-placed window. The one thing I can't seem to do is to get a larger, more
>readable font. I have tried the Font tab within Properties, but my selection is
>ignored. It still gives me 50 lines of small tightly crowded text. I figure that
>it must be reading some control file that has options which override the Properties.
> Autoexec.nt and Config.nt seem like good candidates.
>
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Monday, August 30, 2004 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Nathan_H (1 messages posted)

ok i need ALOT of help here ...,i get this error when i try to run doom 2 or install visual c++ 6 C:\* C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.NT. The system file is not suitable for running MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application. can somebody help me, my specs are Pentium 4 2.8ghz 512mb ddr ram 120gb hdd 8x dvd+r drive nvidia geforce fx 5500 256mb ddr and windows xp home edition

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, September 12, 2004 at 7:13 am
Posted by Wayne (1 messages posted)

What fix did you find for Windows98 to make Strike Commander run?


On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 12:24 am, Steve Lyons wrote:
>The real problem I have is with the Origin "flight sim" style games eg: Strike Commander,
>Wings of Glory, Privateer etc. These programs all require VCPI (Virtual Control
>Program Interface) compliance, which as far as i can work out XP doesn't have, or
>if it does I can't work out how to get it started. Anyone been able to crack this
>nut? I found a fix for '98 but as yet not XP!
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, September 12, 2004 at 5:11 pm
Posted by 666 (2255 messages posted)

Instead of trying to make that sorry M$ excuse for a DOS emulator work, download a REAL FREE WORKING OPEN SOURCE DOS emulator like DOSBox: http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
>ok i need ALOT of help here ...,i get this error

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Friday, October 1, 2004 at 5:46 am
Posted by kerby (1 messages posted)

I use DOSbox (a DOS emulator) so I can play all DOS games very fine. But it's somewhat slow in processing games. You'll need to tweak it though.

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Friday, October 1, 2004 at 11:19 am
Posted by 666 (2255 messages posted)

Slow... needs tweaking... it's just like windows.




On Friday, October 1, 2004 at 5:46 am, kerby wrote:
>it's somewhat slow in processing games.
>You'll need to tweak it

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Friday, October 15, 2004 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Jonathan (1 messages posted)

Since you guys have been able to work all of your DOS games....can u guys help me in making my Privateer 2 game work? I've tried making it a Delixe version with the files on the net and it worked. but the HD were I had those files is damaged. I can't find them anywhere. Can someone tell me where to get these files or atleast how to make the original version work on XP?

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Sunday, February 27, 2005 at 1:28 am
Posted by Eli (1 messages posted)

OK OK OK, STOP THE PRESS, I KNOW ALOT O DOS GAMES CAN RUN UNDER XP, BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THE MAIN BODY OF THE MESSAGE, "ORIGIN FLIGHT SIMS" ARE HIS PROBLEM NOT DUKE NUKEM 3D OR ALL THE OTHER SHIT PEOPLE SAY CAN RUN FINE, NOW SOMEONE THAT CAN GET PRIVATEER ONE TO RUN ON XP HAS MY TRUE ADMIRATION AND I SWEAR ID PAY TO SEE IT RUN FLAWLESSY ON MY PC ID PAY GOOD!!! :p

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Sunday, April 17, 2005 at 5:22 am
Posted by lewis (1 messages posted)

well i'm saying it now, i have tried ot run two of the best dos games ever and they do not run on my xp machine. I have windows xp PRO edition. QUAKE and DUKE NUKEM DO NOT WORK!!! unless any of you have ot patches, and if so then please let me know where to get them from :D

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Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Sworm (1 messages posted)

I am sorry for bad english ,my #1 is Czech. What kind of idiot can say "all dos games will run on XP" ? There are many problems with memory ,sound ,controls and SPEED ! 70% of old dos games won't run good ,because there is problem with speed. dos games will run (not in DosBOX!) good ,but without any sounds or only with strange MIDI sounds without SB. Tyrian won't run ,because of too fast CPU (when you slow down CPU by CPU Killer ,Tyrian will run) .... there is too many problems with XP. I know this problems ,so if anyone will have questions ,write to me!

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Monday, November 7, 2005 at 8:10 am
Posted by Kerry (2 messages posted)

Well, there is a solution. Unfortunately, it involves using a seperate program called dos box. The nice thing is that dos-box can be configured to run in the background. I had issues with master of orion, but now it works just fine. The program is dos-box 0.63 I think. This is what my master of orion shortcut looks like "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.63\dosbox.exe" -conf "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.63\dosbox.conf" c:\games\moo\orion.exe -exit when I click on the master of orion, dos-box loads the dame and everything works fine. There is also a help file included in the program that includes a list of all dos-box's command line switches Good luck

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Thursday, November 17, 2005 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Jim Moreley (1 messages posted)

Help! Sworm, it sounds like you have found some solutions. I have a great school mathematics program written in Z-Basic. It runs O.K. on the first Windows XP, but now XP Home and XP Professional kill it. I have many prev customers with new computers with XP and now they scream, as the program won't run. What can I do?? I welcome any suggestions. M$ offered none to date.


On Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 12:09 pm, Sworm wrote:
>I am sorry for bad english ,my #1 is Czech. What kind of idiot can say "all dos games
>will run on XP" ? There are many problems with memory ,sound ,controls and SPEED
>! 70% of old dos games won't run good ,because there is problem with speed. dos games
>will run (not in DosBOX!) good ,but without any sounds or only with strange MIDI
>sounds without SB. Tyrian won't run ,because of too fast CPU (when you slow down
>CPU by CPU Killer ,Tyrian will run) .... there is too many problems with XP. I know
>this problems ,so if anyone will have questions ,write to me!

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Sunday, December 25, 2005 at 1:43 pm
Posted by bob (1 messages posted)

Did anyone ever get Silent Service II to work? I have pulled two 3.5 floppies out of mothalls, and cant get the sound to work under XP. Thanks, Bob


On Wednesday, January 7, 2004 at 9:32 pm, Joel MacDonald wrote:
>How about the DOS game, Silent Service II. I just installed it on my XP Pro system
>and I can't get the sound to play on my Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2. I get
>only the PC speaker sounds. I tried to change the batch file from IBM to Adlib but
>the batch file then wouldn't play.
>
>

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 5:54 am
Posted by Ray Boorstin (3 messages posted)

how does one get com port 1 to work while using a DOS program running in DOSBOX using winxp


On Monday, November 7, 2005 at 8:10 am, Kerry wrote:
>
>Well, there is a solution. Unfortunately, it involves using a seperate program called
>dos box. The nice thing is that dos-box can be configured to run in the background.
> I had issues with master of orion, but now it works just fine.
>The program is dos-box 0.63 I think.
>This is what my master of orion shortcut looks like
>
>"C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.63\dosbox.exe" -conf "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.63\dosbox.conf"
>c:\games\moo\orion.exe -exit
>
>when I click on the master of orion, dos-box loads the dame and everything works
>fine. There is also a help file included in the program that includes a list of
>all dos-box's command line switches
>Good luck

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 4:46 am
Posted by Kerry (2 messages posted)

Hello, If you open the dosbox config file. It is located in the same directory as dosbox. C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.65 Also there is a new version of dosbox since I posted that last message. It seems to be a good update. You might want to check it out. Anyway, once you open the config file, you are going to look for ths section. [serial] # serial1-4 -- set type of device connected to com port. # Can be disabled, dummy, modem, directserial. # Additional parameters must be in the same line in the form of # parameter:value. Parameters for all types are irq, startbps, bytesize, # stopbits, parity (all optional). # for directserial: realport (required). # for modem: listenport (optional). # Example: serial1=modem listenport:5000 serial1=dummy serial2=dummy serial3=disabled serial4=disabled Just replace the word dummy in front of serial1 and you should be good to go. Let me know if you have any further issues with it.


On Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 5:54 am, Ray Boorstin wrote:
>how does one get com port 1 to work while using a DOS program running in DOSBOX using
>winxp
>
>
>

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 5:25 am
Posted by Ray Boorstin (3 messages posted)

I've added the following line in dosbox config.com: serial1=directserial realport:com1 startbps:1200 parity:e bytesize:8 stopbits:1 irq:4 [sdl]. The dosbox screen shows that it's trying to open comport 3F8, but nothing else is displayed after that statement and at the same time my software show that there is no communication with the device hooked to comport 1.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 8:51 am
Posted by Ray Boorstin (3 messages posted)

This is a follow-up to my previous post. The serial confiuration seems to work on some devices hooked to com1, but not whith other devices. Wonder if all the signals on com port 1 are being sent to the dosshell interpeter? I need on the 9 pin serial port the following: pin3=tx; pin2=rx; pin5=sig gnd; pin4=rts; pin9 or 8= cts. Do you know if this is true or not?

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re: DOS programs work under Windows XP.
Tuesday, January 9, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Shorty Emcee (4 messages posted)

Sounds like you guys know a bit about DOS/Windows relationships... How bout this 
for a twister.....

THE PROBLEM:
So, our Parent Company has spent a lot of $ (In the millions) to rewrite their DOS 
program for Windows. As it turns out, the guy they hired couldn't pull it off (Too 
many problems linking to Windows Print Spooler).

To this point, our DOS Software only prints to LPT1.
(Many offices wish to print to their networks, as well as to PDF)

Parent Company's "SOLUTION":
They provided us with detailed instructions on how to redirect LPT1 to any other 
printer on the network.
Sweet. Except for the fact that OUR biggest problem is STILL having to scan printed 
documents to PDF.
In most cases 300+ pages. Very time consuming.
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Our current status:

We can route LPT1 to any printer on our network. However, we CANNOT PRINT TO PDF... 

It accepts Acrobat PDF Writer as a printer
BUT doesn't give us option to save the file as a PDF
doesn't show on our desktop as a test page will
and the print cue either loads, delete's and reloads the file "local downlevel document", 
or keeps sending THOUSANDS of jobs of the same name ranging from 2 Bytes to 100's 
of kb...

Keep in mind this is database software, and we are trying to print hundreds of whole 
pages - TEXT only.

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Whish I had more info. Any help would be huge for us, and I am sure we could show 
some sort of gratitude!

HELP!

Jon,
612.385.5488
shortyemcee@gmail (Refer to DOS)

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