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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 8:31 pm
Posted by C K
(6515 messages posted)
Since you have NTFS this isn't the FAT 32 bug. XP installs it's files, swap files,
hibernation reserve space and system restore files which are all hidden but will
be reported as disk space used. NTFS also uses more space for it's file structure
than does FAT. You really need a bigger drive than 5 gig for XP.. We usually recommend
a minimum of 10 at the least. You can unhide/show hidden and system files to see
what is using the space in the C root directory. This is pretty much normal XP disk
usage on install with hibernation and system restore set to max which is why it should
be larger than 5 gig. C K
On Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 4:34 pm, Honn wrote:
>I have a question about Explorer
>is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug):
>i have my windows xp installed on a seperate partition
>i never install any programs on this partition.the format of this partition is NTFS.the
>size of this paritition is 5 gega.when i click properties of this partition it says
>4.5 gega r used.however da total size of the folders inside this partition(documents
>n settings , program files n windows) is only 2 gega.how can i fix this problem?running
>scandisk doesnt fix da problem.
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Sunday, August 31, 2003 at 7:30 am
Posted by Honn
(95 messages posted)
well,when i check da total size of da folders in my parition i always view hidden
files n folders but still da siza is less dan dat shown by clicking da properties
of da parition.besides my hibernation isnt activated n da system restore is set to
min(200mega) n i never install any programs to this parition.i dont think dats normal.wut
do u think?
On Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 8:31 pm, C K wrote:
>Since you have NTFS this isn't the FAT 32 bug. XP installs it's files, swap files,
>hibernation reserve space and system restore files which are all hidden but will
>be reported as disk space used. NTFS also uses more space for it's file structure
>than does FAT. You really need a bigger drive than 5 gig for XP.. We usually recommend
>a minimum of 10 at the least. You can unhide/show hidden and system files to see
>what is using the space in the C root directory. This is pretty much normal XP
disk
>usage on install with hibernation and system restore set to max which is why it
should
>be larger than 5 gig. C K
>
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Friday, September 26, 2003 at 6:03 am
Posted by jpnn80
(2 messages posted)
Hi, I'm having exactly the same pblm now:
I have several hard disks with partitions, some in FAT32 and others in NTFS.
I don't know why, but since yesterday I realized that each time I deleted some files
on one of them, in the property windows of any partition, the total size used never
decrease, but if I add some files, it still increase, until I can't add anymore because
of the wrong total size!!!
Whereas if I select all the directories and files, including those hidden which I
always display, then their real total size is shown, and doesn't match the one in
the property window of my partition...
I've tried to make a chkdsk on the fat32 and ntfs partitions of my windows xp hard
disk, and though it didn't find any pblm, after this my hard disks were acting normally
again...but only until I restored a ghost image of my windows system partition...
During these events there were also 2 times when my windows interface was completely
freezing all of a sudden, and took forever when I tried to shutdown, so I had to
reset, and no scandisk occured after the reboot..
So now as my hard disk are quickly reaching their space limit with this terrible
bug, I really need to know why is this happening, and how can I repair and avoid
it, without having to do a veeerryy long chkdsk on all my hd, though I'm even not
sure it works, maybe just a reboot works randomly...
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 at 11:48 am
Posted by Mohammad
(2 messages posted)
hi dudes,
Same thing happend to me- well after alot of 'beating the head on the keyboard',
the issue turned out to be NORTON ANTI VIRUS's Recycle Bin addon- just click "Empty
Norton Protected Files" (right click on the Recycle bin icon) and the truth should
set u free :D
Hope this helps
Cheers
Mohammad
On Friday, September 26, 2003 at 6:03 am, jpnn80 wrote:
>Hi, I'm having exactly the same pblm now:
>
>I have several hard disks with partitions, some in FAT32 and others in NTFS.
>
>I don't know why, but since yesterday I realized that each time I deleted some files
>on one of them, in the property windows of any partition, the total size used never
>decrease, but if I add some files, it still increase, until I can't add anymore
because
>of the wrong total size!!!
>Whereas if I select all the directories and files, including those hidden which
I
>always display, then their real total size is shown, and doesn't match the one in
>the property window of my partition...
>
>I've tried to make a chkdsk on the fat32 and ntfs partitions of my windows xp hard
>disk, and though it didn't find any pblm, after this my hard disks were acting normally
>again...but only until I restored a ghost image of my windows system partition...
>
>During these events there were also 2 times when my windows interface was completely
>freezing all of a sudden, and took forever when I tried to shutdown, so I had to
>reset, and no scandisk occured after the reboot..
>
>So now as my hard disk are quickly reaching their space limit with this terrible
>bug, I really need to know why is this happening, and how can I repair and avoid
>it, without having to do a veeerryy long chkdsk on all my hd, though I'm even not
>sure it works, maybe just a reboot works randomly...
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 at 11:57 am
Posted by jpnn80
(2 messages posted)
Yes, indeed it was Unerase norton which caused this, note it was also included in
Norton SystemWorks which was the one I installed.
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Monday, November 24, 2003 at 1:24 am
Posted by Honn
(95 messages posted)
im not installing any norton utilities ie i dont have da option of empty norton protected
files when i right click my recycle bin.i only have da norton antivirus installed.
On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 at 11:48 am, Mohammad wrote:
>hi dudes,
>
>Same thing happend to me- well after alot of 'beating the head on the keyboard',
>the issue turned out to be NORTON ANTI VIRUS's Recycle Bin addon- just click "Empty
>Norton Protected Files" (right click on the Recycle bin icon) and the truth should
>set u free :D
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Cheers
>Mohammad
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Andrew Ironside
(1 messages posted)
Whoever discovered that this was Norton is a FREAKING GENIUS.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I was losing gigabytes a DAY - mostly because I'm
into video developement and I was deleting/creating multi-gig files on a regular
basis.
Once again, thank you.
On Monday, November 24, 2003 at 1:24 am, Honn wrote:
>im not installing any norton utilities ie i dont have da option of empty norton
protected
>files when i right click my recycle bin.i only have da norton antivirus installed.
>
>
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Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Monday, October 11, 2004 at 10:57 am
Posted by Mark A. DelPriore
(1 messages posted)
Mohammad:
After discussing this with Maxtor, Microsoft, and Symantec (I use Ghost), it was,
in fact, as you stated. Thanks a million !!
On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 at 11:48 am, Mohammad wrote:
>hi dudes,
>
>Same thing happend to me- well after alot of 'beating the head on the keyboard',
>the issue turned out to be NORTON ANTI VIRUS's Recycle Bin addon- just click "Empty
>Norton Protected Files" (right click on the Recycle bin icon) and the truth should
>set u free :D
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Cheers
>Mohammad
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Tuesday, December 28, 2004 at 2:48 pm
Posted by B Reynolds
(1 messages posted)
Goto start menu, disk cleanup, more options(tab):
there is an option to remove restore points. If you have never done this, it will
free up substatial free space. Obviuosly, some precaution should be used since this
will only leave you with 1 restore point. Do not use this option if you are having
problems which would require you to restore to a much earlier date.
On Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 4:34 pm, Honn wrote:
>I have a question about Explorer
>is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug):
>i have my windows xp installed on a seperate partition
>i never install any programs on this partition.the format of this partition is NTFS.the
>size of this paritition is 5 gega.when i click properties of this partition it says
>4.5 gega r used.however da total size of the folders inside this partition(documents
>n settings , program files n windows) is only 2 gega.how can i fix this problem?running
>scandisk doesnt fix da problem.
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Thursday, December 30, 2004 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Silent Hissing
(1 messages posted)
Hi all,
I am having the same problem with Windows XP.
I do NOT have any Norton or any application installed on my computer besides the
basic Windows XP installation.
I have tried several reinstallations. After each, I copy a large file from a CD to
"My Documents" and then erase it. But I cant' regain the space. Not with rebooting
either.
I tried Windows XP Home and then Pro.
I had started off with a dual boot installation with linux, and later tried with
no Linux only 2 windows partitions (one system, one data).
Each time, I still get the same damn problem.
If its of any interest, even when it was a dual-boot with Linux and I saw my windows
data partition from Linux, it still read the incorrect disk usage figure.
I deal with large video files. If I delete them, I cannot get the space back!
I have tried formatting, both FAT32 and NTFS partitions, defragmenting...
Any suggestions?
SH
On Tuesday, December 28, 2004 at 2:48 pm, B Reynolds wrote:
>Goto start menu, disk cleanup, more options(tab):
>there is an option to remove restore points. If you have never done this, it will
>free up substatial free space. Obviuosly, some precaution should be used since this
>will only leave you with 1 restore point. Do not use this option if you are having
>problems which would require you to restore to a much earlier date.
>
>
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Wednesday, January 5, 2005 at 3:41 pm
Posted by gandhi
(1 messages posted)
Thanks a million, this has been happening to me forever and I havn't been able to
solve it :)
On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 at 11:48 am, Mohammad wrote:
>hi dudes,
>
>Same thing happend to me- well after alot of 'beating the head on the keyboard',
>the issue turned out to be NORTON ANTI VIRUS's Recycle Bin addon- just click "Empty
>Norton Protected Files" (right click on the Recycle bin icon) and the truth should
>set u free :D
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Cheers
>Mohammad
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Friday, January 14, 2005 at 6:36 am
Posted by aveesh
(1 messages posted)
THANK YOU - all of you - i was about to format the HD - thank you
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Friday, February 4, 2005 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Honn
(95 messages posted)
i think da problem is dat system restore reserves some space to itself (u decide
how big this space this) and it never tells u.even if u view hidden files n folders
there wud still be a size mismatch.if u try erasing ur restore points except da last
one ull notice da size of da mismatch decreased.so probably da left space mismatch
is occupied by da last check point.
On Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 4:34 pm, Honn wrote:
>I have a question about Explorer
>is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug):
>i have my windows xp installed on a seperate partition
>i never install any programs on this partition.the format of this partition is NTFS.the
>size of this paritition is 5 gega.when i click properties of this partition it says
>4.5 gega r used.however da total size of the folders inside this partition(documents
>n settings , program files n windows) is only 2 gega.how can i fix this problem?running
>scandisk doesnt fix da problem.
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Saturday, February 19, 2005 at 1:49 am
Posted by Midnightkiss
(1 messages posted)
If you are having the problem with your hard drive saying that the space used doesn't
equal the space of all your folders then this is what you have to do. Right click
on the hard drive with xp installed on it. Go to disk clean up. Click the more
options tab. Click system restore clean up. Click Ok. You should gain a good amount
of space back. It will not completely match up because your most recent system restore
point is taking up space.
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Jeff Wilkinson
(1 messages posted)
I've been having this same problem on my winxp machine. I have an 80Gb drive. I have
turned on the view of all hidden and system file, select all files/folders from c:
and properties only display 6.62Gb used space. However win explorer lists only 2.49Gb
free space. I've seen a lot of fuzzy math, but this is ridiculously fuzzy.
In addition, the free space value is after performing a clean-up where I deleted
all the restore points except recent. Also I have emptied the recycling bin. At first
the size available was around 1Gb, so I filled up the harddrive with files until
I got to the free space value I mentioned above (At which point windows displays
a message and points you to disk clean-up utility). I have tried everything listed
on this forum. Any other suggestions to this insane problem?
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Friday, May 13, 2005 at 11:41 am
Posted by Azmath Pasha
(1 messages posted)
Thanks to all of you for the incredible suggestions..
I lost space at the speed of light..
And now i have reduced the amount of space for SystemRestore and i have turned off
Hibernation..
Thank you all very much
On Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 8:31 pm, C K wrote:
>Since you have NTFS this isn't the FAT 32 bug. XP installs it's files, swap files,
>hibernation reserve space and system restore files which are all hidden but will
>be reported as disk space used. NTFS also uses more space for it's file structure
>than does FAT. You really need a bigger drive than 5 gig for XP.. We usually recommend
>a minimum of 10 at the least. You can unhide/show hidden and system files to see
>what is using the space in the C root directory. This is pretty much normal XP
disk
>usage on install with hibernation and system restore set to max which is why it
should
>be larger than 5 gig. C K
>
>
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Thursday, July 21, 2005 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Daktari
(1 messages posted)
I've been having this problem since copying my winxp FAT32 boot partition (under
Linux, using dd) to a new drive in order to gain some space. When I booted up, even
though I have 5GB more in the partition, the free space was the same as before.
Even merging the partition with free space behind it using Partition Magic 8.0 didn't
help.
Under Linux, found that XP was filling up the disk to reduce the amount of free space
down to the previously set amount. The files are hidden files in \winnt with names
consisting of a single letter, a through z, or sometimes a single digit.
Deleting these files and rebooting back to XP didn't help, the files were recreated
on boot, and couldn't be deleted. So under Linux again, I deleted those files, and
created new directories and loaded them up with data from other drives so I could
delete subdirectories under XP when I needed more space.
This is a PITA workaround, but occasionally googling may eventually lead to a more
permanent solution. It's easier than re-installing XP and having to reinstall all
of my applications (dozens, at least).
I'll see if cleaning up system restore helps, but I'm doubtful.
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Thursday, July 21, 2005 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Rich Kurtz
(12246 messages posted)
Falcon's virus/malware cleanup routine
Daktari (John Wayne fan?), what about doing a repair install. Leaves your user data
and programs in place, just replaces all system files and system registry entries.
See link below if interested.
Repair install WinXP
Clean install WinXP
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Thursday, December 22, 2005 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Kathy McKinney
(1 messages posted)
I was having this issue along with several others in my org. Disk free space kept
getting smaller even though I removed programs. We have system restore turned off.
I had to go in and turn it on and then select settings on the drive and use the pull
tab to move the size down to minimum and apply. I went from having 770 MB free to
16 GB free. Soemhow system restore was saving information even though it was turned
off.
On Thursday, July 21, 2005 at 4:31 pm, Rich Kurtz wrote:
>
>Falcon's virus/malware cleanup routine
>Daktari (John Wayne fan?), what about doing a repair install. Leaves your user data
>and programs in place, just replaces all system files and system registry entries.
>
>See link below if interested.
>
>Repair install WinXP
>Clean install WinXP
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re: Question about 'Explorer is reporting the wrong amount of free space (FAT32 Free Space Bug)'
Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 6:06 pm
Posted by qewrty
(1 messages posted)
OMG! Thanks for this solution! Worked for me:)
On Thursday, December 22, 2005 at 2:27 pm, Kathy McKinney wrote:
>I was having this issue along with several others in my org. Disk free space kept
>getting smaller even though I removed programs. We have system restore turned off.
>I had to go in and turn it on and then select settings on the drive and use the
pull
>tab to move the size down to minimum and apply. I went from having 770 MB free to
>16 GB free. Soemhow system restore was saving information even though it was turned
>off.
>
>
>
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