I have a question about Dealing 
with Windows's Advanced Power Management (APM):


I have just built my first PC, everything has gone well apart from when I shut down 
I get the message that "it is safe to turn off your monitor" but on my other computer 
it automatically shuts down.

I have checked in the power options and under the advanced tab the "Power Buttons" 
section is missing, 
so I can not set the computer to shut down the PC (apart) from pressing the ON/OFF 
button, does anybody have any idea how I can view the information.

Checked BIOS under power management and changed from "user define" to "disable" but 
this has no effect, the motherboard is a ASUS P5A Super7 (BIOS flashed to V1007A).

I have looked in the Control Panel and selected APM (put a tick in the box) next 
time I went in the tick is removed, will not stay selected, and still no power buttons 
selection in the advance tab.

In the BIOS I have the following options in the "Power Management" section:

POWER MANAGEMENT:
1.User Define
2.Max Saving (alters PM Timers when selected)
3.Min Saving (alters PM Timers when selected)
4.Disable

VIDEO OFF OPTION:
1. Always on
2. All Modes = OFF
3. Susp, Stby = OFF
4. Suspend = OFF

VIDEO OFF METHOD
1. DPMS Reduce On
2. DPMS OFF
3. DPMS Suspend
4. DPMS Stand By
5. V/H Sync+Blank
6. Blank Screen

I have tried toggling the above selections but this makes no difference to the power 
settings in XP,
I can still NOT see the Power Buttons section which would enable the power off option 
on shut down.

Paul

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The P5A even with the lastest BETA BIOS is not compatible with XP's ACPI spec. The board is to old. It installs with the Standard PC HAL as the BIOS and the hardware is not XP compatible. It will power down with Win 2000 with the BETA BIOS but not with XP. I have tried installing the ACPI HAL in XP and it will not work on a P5A board I have here. The PC will lock up. XP defaults to the standard PC HAL when it installs. Leave all BIOS settings at their defaults. See here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314088&Product=winxp


On Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 9:43 am, Paul Bristow wrote:

>I have a question about Dealing 
>with Windows's Advanced Power Management (APM):

>
>I have just built my first PC, everything has gone well apart from when I shut down 
>I get the message that "it is safe to turn off your monitor" but on my other computer 
>it automatically shuts down.
>
>I have checked in the power options and under the advanced tab the "Power Buttons" 
>section is missing, 
>so I can not set the computer to shut down the PC (apart) from pressing the ON/OFF 
>button, does anybody have any idea how I can view the information.
>
>Checked BIOS under power management and changed from "user define" to "disable" 
but 
>this has no effect, the motherboard is a ASUS P5A Super7 (BIOS flashed to V1007A).
>
>I have looked in the Control Panel and selected APM (put a tick in the box) next 
>time I went in the tick is removed, will not stay selected, and still no power buttons 
>selection in the advance tab.
>
>In the BIOS I have the following options in the "Power Management" section:
>
>POWER MANAGEMENT:
>1.User Define
>2.Max Saving (alters PM Timers when selected)
>3.Min Saving (alters PM Timers when selected)
>4.Disable
>
>VIDEO OFF OPTION:
>1. Always on
>2. All Modes = OFF
>3. Susp, Stby = OFF
>4. Suspend = OFF
>
>VIDEO OFF METHOD
>1. DPMS Reduce On
>2. DPMS OFF
>3. DPMS Suspend
>4. DPMS Stand By
>5. V/H Sync+Blank
>6. Blank Screen
>
>I have tried toggling the above selections but this makes no difference to the power 
>settings in XP,
>I can still NOT see the Power Buttons section which would enable the power off option 
>on shut down.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>

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CK

Thanks for the quick reply, not what I wanted to hear but if this is the case then 
I will have to live with it, you say it is not compatiable with XP hardware, from 
your experience what is the largest hard drive this board will accept under XP I 
know this is going away from the original thread but I was thinking of putting in 
a 60GB drive as a second device the master drive is 10GB (XP OS) or should I save 
my money .

Paul






On Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 9:53 am, C K wrote:
>The P5A even with the lastest BETA BIOS is not compatible with XP's ACPI spec.  
The 
>board is to old.  It installs with the Standard PC HAL as the BIOS and the hardware 
>is not XP compatible.  It will power down with Win 2000 with the BETA BIOS but not 
>with XP.  I have tried installing the ACPI HAL in XP and it will not work on a P5A 
>board I have here.  The PC will lock up.  XP defaults to the standard PC HAL when 
>it installs.  Leave all BIOS settings at their defaults.  See here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314088&Product=winxp
>
>

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Not sure what the largest drive is, I can do some checking. It could be up to 30 gig as far as the BIOS goes, but not much more I would expect. This board on my bench won't run in DMA on XP either, but it will on Win 2000 so you might want to check that in your device manager as POI mode slows it down quite a bit. I only have a 10 gig Maxtor on this one. (Client doesn't want it upgraded). I didn't see any specs as to the updated BIOSes on HD size updates.. I would say, save your money.. I will see what I can find out. If you really want to get a newer BIOS that will support up to 60 I believe, check out (www.mrbios.com) but on this board, which was a good board in it's day, it's not worth putting much money into. You might try the BETA bios from the Asus website. C K


On Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 12:07 pm, Paul Bristow wrote:

>CK
>
>Thanks for the quick reply, not what I wanted to hear but if this is the case then 
>I will have to live with it, you say it is not compatiable with XP hardware, from 
>your experience what is the largest hard drive this board will accept under XP I 
>know this is going away from the original thread but I was thinking of putting in 
>a 60GB drive as a second device the master drive is 10GB (XP OS) or should I save 
>my money .
>
>Paul
>
>

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CK

I have found and flashed a beta bios V1011.005 as this reports will accept larger 
hard drives (but fails to say what size up to?) I have checked the Primary IDE channel 
(10GB IBM Drive) and it reports it is using ULTRA DMA Mode2, so at least that is 
supported, if you do find out any more information about supported hard drive sizes 
it would be appreciated before I purchase one.

I would like to change the motherboard but funds do not allow it at the moment (out 
of work) and this motherboard was given to me and the case cost me £5 (secondhand) 
so I will carry on with the project.

Paul





On Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 12:20 pm, C K wrote:
>Not sure what the largest drive is, I can do some checking.  It could be up to 30 
>gig as far as the BIOS goes, but not much more I would expect.  This board on my 
>bench won't run in DMA on XP either, but it will on Win 2000 so you might want to 
>check that in your device manager as POI mode slows it down quite a bit.  I only 
>have a 10 gig Maxtor on this one.  (Client doesn't want it upgraded).  I didn't 
see 
>any specs as to the updated BIOSes on HD size updates..  I would say, save your 
money.. 
> I will see what I can find out.  If you really want to get a newer BIOS that will 
>support up to 60 I believe, check out (www.mrbios.com) but on this board, which 
was 
>a good board in it's day, it's not worth putting much money into.  You might try 
>the BETA bios from the Asus website.  C K
>
>

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I hear you when it comes to the currency flow problem. I would suspect that the BETA bios should take up to 30 gig, possibly up to 60 (or somewhere in between) but that would be the top I would suspect. Will have some time today to make some inquiries.. Glad to hear yours is supporting UDMA 2 in Windows. This one has a noisy HD controller and gets disabled by XP, other than that it is stable at least. Client can get a little more time out of it. Good Luck! C K


On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 6:17 am, Paul Bristow wrote:

>
>CK
>
>I have found and flashed a beta bios V1011.005 as this reports will accept larger 
>hard drives (but fails to say what size up to?) I have checked the Primary IDE channel 
>(10GB IBM Drive) and it reports it is using ULTRA DMA Mode2, so at least that is 
>supported, if you do find out any more information about supported hard drive sizes 
>it would be appreciated before I purchase one.
>
>I would like to change the motherboard but funds do not allow it at the moment (out 
>of work) and this motherboard was given to me and the case cost me £5 (secondhand) 
>so I will carry on with the project.
>
>Paul
>

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The limit is either 133 or 139 gigs. I forget which. I just installed 2 200 gig HDs and had some problems with getting the full amount on the computer the older motherboard (from 2000). Some Windows drivers that came with the hard drive fixed that problem since that mb's bios didn't support the 200. The drive originally showed 133 gigs (or 139, again i forget) before the driver was installed. Jared Felton


On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 7:35 am, C K wrote:
>I hear you when it comes to the currency flow problem. I would suspect that the
>BETA bios should take up to 30 gig, possibly up to 60 (or somewhere in between) but
>that would be the top I would suspect. Will have some time today to make some inquiries..
> Glad to hear yours is supporting UDMA 2 in Windows. This one has a noisy HD controller
>and gets disabled by XP, other than that it is stable at least. Client can get a
>little more time out of it. Good Luck! C K
>
>

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Hey Jared, Saw that you installed some 200gig harddrives and got them to work, what did you do? I'm having an issue with getting windows to see the full size of a western digitial 200gig drive. The bios sees the drive as being 200gig, set it up both manually and with autodetect. However when I get into window it only sees the last partition. I've tried to software that came with the HD, booted from the cd and I saw able to see the entire 200gigs, and was able to partition the drive. But, again windows would only see the last partition. I have SP 1 installed and really don't want to install SP 2. Any suggestions ? Thanks.... RC


On Wednesday, December 3, 2003 at 10:03 pm, Jared Felton wrote:
>
>The limit is either 133 or 139 gigs. I forget which.
>
>I just installed 2 200 gig HDs and had some problems with getting the full amount
>on the computer the older motherboard (from 2000). Some Windows drivers that came
>with the hard drive fixed that problem since that mb's bios didn't support the 200.
> The drive originally showed 133 gigs (or 139, again i forget) before the driver
>was installed.
>
>Jared Felton
>
>

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This reply comes a little late, but I hope there are still people using the ASUS P5A, as this was and still is an extremely stable Super 7 motherboard for the K6-2/3x series of processors. This board may not be ACPI compliant under Windows XP, however it *is* fully compliant under Windows Server 2003 and Windows 2000 Professional. I am using BIOS revision 1011 Beta 005, and my P5A is revision 1.06. This is an ACPI BIOS revision and is required for Windows ACPI features. Under a Windows 2000 installation, if booting from the CD, when prompted to press 'F6', instead press 'F5' and choose 'ACPI Computer' from the options given (This tip comes from this NT Compatible). No additional settings were required under a standard boot-from-CD Windows Server 2003 installation, and all devices detected first time. (Here is the listing from my Device Manager) All power options are available, including Hibernate, and the ability to switch off the PC by pressing the power button. When you choose to shut down the PC, it will do exactly that in true ACPI style. As regards the other posts in this thread referring to hard disks on this motherboard, I opted to install a Promise Ultra100 TX2 controller onto my board, which fortunately is backwards compatible with the P5A's old 33MHz PCI slots. I've got 3 disks attached to this card, two 80 GB, one 30 GB. I highly recommend this over using the P5A's on-board IDE controller because there is a huge performance gain to be had from using a separate controller card due to increased bandwidth; reduced overhead on the CPU; and support for high capacity hard disks.

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I have a 40 gig using the 1011 005 beta bios on a P5A-B and it works just fine - Bob


On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 7:35 am, C K wrote:
>I hear you when it comes to the currency flow problem. I would suspect that the
>BETA bios should take up to 30 gig, possibly up to 60 (or somewhere in between) but
>that would be the top I would suspect. Will have some time today to make some inquiries..
> Glad to hear yours is supporting UDMA 2 in Windows. This one has a noisy HD controller
>and gets disabled by XP, other than that it is stable at least. Client can get a
>little more time out of it. Good Luck! C K
>
>

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