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re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 11:48 am Posted by yurmy (12 messages posted) As far as the icons goes oneway to do is it quite annouying when you want to save data within the program..I've always ended task on the missing icons and restarted the program again.. I think more of what you wanted to ask was...How can you make the programs the icons are missing for the top most focused window..Then my method would be of much more benefit..As you could save your work and simply restart w/ no loss.. As far as the network goes..What operating system are you using? Have you made sure your network card isn't conflicting IRQ's w/ anyother device i.e. vga card.. Some devices will not "share" a IRQ willingly thus causing random crashes when both devices are in use. Now w/ new motherbaords which support more than 15 IRQ's thats normally not an issue. As well newer motherbaords support ACPI compliance which is a method used for IRQ sharing that allows better perfomance and less chance of conflicts as well as crashes. Another thing to try.. Update all nessasary drivers i.e. motherbaord chipset drivers,network card,direct X,soundcard,VGA etc. Those are what most people have as defualt devices in their system. As you may have more.. Lastly you may wanna try using some sort of system monitoring program and try to generate the crash..The monitor will log whatever happens to that point and hopefully you'll be able to pin point the culprit.. Best of wishes to you Bob. On Monday, December 22, 2003 at 4:31 pm, Bob wrote: >For the past 6 months, Windows Explorer crashes regularly when I use it to navigate >my hard drive. The desktop recovers, but only some of my systray icons are >restored (the other TSR's continue to run and are displayed in task manager, but >their icons are gone and are not restored by running another instance of explorer.exe, >as suggested here). I've noticed that the Explorer crashes do not occur if >I boot into Safe Mode, but do ocurr if I boot into Safe Mode with Networking, which >leads me to suspect that something about my network (3 PC peer to peer running through >a Linksys router) is causing the Windows Explorer crashes. >Two questions: >1) does anyone know how to recover the missing systray icons after a Windows Explorer >crash where the desktop is restored automatically but systray icons are not, and > >2) does anyone have know what in networking might be causing the crashes in the first >place? (I tried recreating my network from scratch using the Windows wizard, but >it didn't help). > >Thanks! > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 4:18 pm Posted by Bob (2 messages posted) Thank you for your reply - although I'm embarrassed to admit this, it never occurred to me to just end task on the missing icons and restart the programs (I have 4 TSR's that lose their icons when Windows Explorer crashes, so it will be tedious but quicker than a reboot!). I'm running Windows XP Home, SP 1 with all current patches installed. The problem with Windows Explorer crashing when I use it to navigate the hard drive started occurring after I'd run this computer for over a year and without any hardware changes, so I don't think it's an IRQ conflict or driver problem (I'll check both to be sure). Is there particular monitoring software that you'd recommend for this purpose? I have no problem generating the crash, so the monitoring software may indeed allow me to identify the culprit! Thanks again! On Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 11:48 am, yurmy wrote: >As far as the icons goes oneway to do is it quite annouying when you want to save >data within the program..I've always ended task on the missing icons and restarted >the program again.. I think more of what you wanted to ask was...How can you make >the programs the icons are missing for the top most focused window..Then my method >would be of much more benefit..As you could save your work and simply restart w/ >no loss.. > > >As far as the network goes..What operating system are you using? Have you made sure >your network card isn't conflicting IRQ's w/ anyother device i.e. vga card.. Some >devices will not "share" a IRQ willingly thus causing random crashes when both devices >are in use. Now w/ new motherbaords which support more than 15 IRQ's thats normally >not an issue. As well newer motherbaords support ACPI compliance which is a method >used for IRQ sharing that allows better perfomance and less chance of conflicts as >well as crashes. Another thing to try.. Update all nessasary drivers i.e. motherbaord >chipset drivers,network card,direct X,soundcard,VGA etc. Those are what most people >have as defualt devices in their system. As you may have more.. Lastly you may wanna >try using some sort of system monitoring program and try to generate the crash..The >monitor will log whatever happens to that point and hopefully you'll be able to pin >point the culprit.. Best of wishes to you Bob. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 5:46 pm Posted by yurmy (12 messages posted) Yes as you said, It'd be safe to assume it's not in fact a IRQ issue on your notes. Tell me this.. You say this issue is rather new? New as in around the times you installed SP1 or any other XP Patches? I do know from experience as well as reading many posts,complaints,reviews etc. That SP1 as for myself and others caused complete system instability. As for myself I experienced alot of GUI lag and memory lag, which resulted into a slow system. Another option if all else fails maybe to "rollback" SP1, Reinstall the network from scratch (Start from the network cards being installed,assign ip's so forth). If the problem persists afterwards thats one thing to rule out which is causing many of us a big headache. I uninstalled XP completely and went back to Windows 2000, But that's just me.. As far as system monitoring goes, Honestly I can not offer any advice on what to use.. In the past I have ran across a few but anymore don't indulge into such software, For that I apologize.. Off hand tho you may want to look in Windows Event Viewer. There maybe trace clues to what's going wrong in there. As well you can setup "Performance Monitor" in such a way you can Add Counters which will also be logged in Event Viewer if you feel any of the defualt counters will aide in your finding the issue, As most are for such things as TCP,Server related devices,Cache,CPU etc. I would maybe recommend using such software as Sisoft Sandra to help diagnose your computer. Possibly you mentioned they're getting old, CPU,Ram maybe even the power supply is causing such things. Another thing.. Open console by choosing run in start menu, Type "CMD" w/out the quotations, Once in console type "sfc /scannow /quiet" w/out the quotations, What that will do is scan all your system files making sure they're of correct version and stability for your system. If you wish you may not include "/quiet" and it will then prompt you for needed files to be replaced.. Lastly I suggest another "Rollback" If the problem happen to start around the time you updated any device drivers, That too would be a good thing to think about.. Well goodluck to you. Give some of it a shot, Please let me know if you wiggle the truth out of the beast.. On Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 4:18 pm, Bob wrote: >Thank you for your reply - although I'm embarrassed to admit this, it never occurred >to me to just end task on the missing icons and restart the programs (I have 4 TSR's >that lose their icons when Windows Explorer crashes, so it will be tedious but quicker >than a reboot!). > >I'm running Windows XP Home, SP 1 with all current patches installed. > >The problem with Windows Explorer crashing when I use it to navigate the hard drive >started occurring after I'd run this computer for over a year and without any hardware >changes, so I don't think it's an IRQ conflict or driver problem (I'll check both >to be sure). > >Is there particular monitoring software that you'd recommend for this purpose? I >have no problem generating the crash, so the monitoring software may indeed allow >me to identify the culprit! > >Thanks again! > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Saturday, January 17, 2004 at 7:57 pm Posted by H. Falcon (2 messages posted) FYI- I found a great program that can EASILY restore those systray icons without having to rerun exporer. The program is PS Tray Factory and will restore the icons with a click if explorer.exe crashes unexpectedly. WinXP will rerun explorer.exe automatically after a crash but may not show the icons. PS Soft Labs makes this savior of a program. Give it a try! On Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 11:48 am, yurmy wrote: >As far as the icons goes oneway to do is it quite annouying when you want to save >data within the program..I've always ended task on the missing icons and restarted >the program again.. I think more of what you wanted to ask was...How can you make >the programs the icons are missing for the top most focused window..Then my method >would be of much more benefit..As you could save your work and simply restart w/ >no loss.. > > >As far as the network goes..What operating system are you using? Have you made sure >your network card isn't conflicting IRQ's w/ anyother device i.e. vga card.. Some >devices will not "share" a IRQ willingly thus causing random crashes when both devices >are in use. Now w/ new motherbaords which support more than 15 IRQ's thats normally >not an issue. As well newer motherbaords support ACPI compliance which is a method >used for IRQ sharing that allows better perfomance and less chance of conflicts as >well as crashes. Another thing to try.. Update all nessasary drivers i.e. motherbaord >chipset drivers,network card,direct X,soundcard,VGA etc. Those are what most people >have as defualt devices in their system. As you may have more.. Lastly you may wanna >try using some sort of system monitoring program and try to generate the crash..The >monitor will log whatever happens to that point and hopefully you'll be able to pin >point the culprit.. Best of wishes to you Bob. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at 2:07 pm Posted by cjard (1 messages posted) >1) does anyone know how to recover the missing systray icons after a Windows Explorer >crash where the desktop is restored automatically but systray icons are not, and the systray icons are not restored because explorer/systray.exe cant get to them. apps are notified in the event of an explorer crash, but only a select few redraw their icons properly. you can pay some $ for an app that hooks into the system tray and watches everything that's put in there (to be honest, systray should do this) - that app can then restore the icons. or, if all you want is to access the main window again, you can use a freeware app i just made for myself: http://www.lexpos.com/pers.matt/WinPop3.zip you type some text that is the start of the window text (example: this window text is "Annoyances.org - Reply to message...." so just typing Annoyances (case sensitive)) and pressing [pop!], should pop the window to the front, hidden or not for apps that dont redraw the icon, the proggie keeps a list of all the windows you popped, double click a list entry and it will pop that window again > >2) does anyone have know what in networking might be causing the crashes in the first >place? (I tried recreating my network from scratch using the Windows wizard, but >it didn't help). irq conflict or wrong driver for your network card. replace the card/move to another pci slot/update driver > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Saturday, September 25, 2004 at 11:25 am Posted by omer (1 messages posted) >1) does anyone know how to recover the missing systray icons after a Windows Explorer >crash where the desktop is restored automatically but systray icons are not, and google for win-res-q or winresq or try http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml but both only show the 'lost' windows and dont refresh the icon, but its enough to save the work etc :) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Monday, October 24, 2005 at 3:40 pm Posted by Stormbow (6 messages posted) >2) does anyone have know what in networking might be causing the crashes > in the first place? (I tried recreating my network from scratch using the > Windows wizard, but it didn't help). Just curious, is explorer crashing while navigating folders containing .xml files? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Question: How to restore systray icons after Explorer crashes Sunday, November 27, 2005 at 3:27 pm Posted by Joe (1 messages posted) What an incredible pain in the ass. I had the missing icon problem for a couple of weeks. Mainly the network icon would be missing. Sometimes it would take 3-4 reboots to get the network working. The problem seemed to come out of nowhere; the computer had been working just fine until this nonsense. Anyway, I tried each and every suggested fix. None of them worked. Then I was re-reading the thread, and noticed I hadn't tried the Startdelay program. So I set it to start everything with a 2 second delay between each. BINGO!!! Another mission accomplished. Thanks for the informative thread! [Reply or follow-up to this message] Windows Explorer crashing during navigation Sunday, December 18, 2005 at 4:28 am Posted by Romain (1 messages posted) I have recently had a problem with Windows Explorer crashing during navigation and essentially taking the whole system down, requiring reboot. I couldnt work out what it could have been, as nothing had changed in the hardware. I got so sick of it, I formatted and rebuilt. The found the problem again straight up. I have narrowed it down to this. The first time the problem surfaced, I had just installed Direct X 9! When I rebuilt, everything worked fine until i installed Disrect X 9 again. I have since rebuit again and did not dare to install Direct X 9. Things are working fine! Question, has anyone else had this experience and is there a fix, as i do require an updated Direct X. 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