Linux can be download from the Internet for free but it is easier to buy a retail copy and there aren't nearly as many virus attacks on Linux. There is a lot of good free Ofiice style programs that are free and it would be a good slap in the wallet for Microsoft.

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The only problem is how many programs and hardware are out in the market that will support LINUX. Don't get me worng I'm trying to learn LINUX and is not a piece of cake I guess once I learn it I will be saying the same


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:37 am, Clay Davis wrote:
>Linux can be download from the Internet for free but it is easier to buy a retail
>copy and there aren't nearly as many virus attacks on Linux. There is a lot of good
>free Ofiice style programs that are free and it would be a good slap in the wallet
>for Microsoft.

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Read over this forum a bit and look at the knowledge level of the people asking for help
Do you really think that most of them could handle Linux?
As for Linux security, You know the Maginot Line was considered to be very secure
And that army that manned it was regarded as one of the best in Europe
Then the Hitler decided to attack France and the rest is history
The moral of the story: any defense looks good as long as no one is shooting at it

Windows takes the brunt of virus attacks for the same reason IE takes the brunt of spyware attacks
It has a large market share and hackers and hijackers are going to attack the biggest target
Just wait until Linux gets a decent portion of the home PC market and then we'll see just how secure it is
Regards, Adam Bradley


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:37 am, Clay Davis wrote:
>Linux can be download from the Internet for free but it is easier to buy a retail
>copy and there aren't nearly as many virus attacks on Linux. There is a lot of good
>free Ofiice style programs that are free and it would be a good slap in the wallet
>for Microsoft.

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Wait until the Target is bigger,and the Virusattaccks will pick up!!And I am told Windows is easier.


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:37 am, Clay Davis wrote:
>Linux can be download from the Internet for free but it is easier to buy a retail
>copy and there aren't nearly as many virus attacks on Linux. There is a lot of good
>free Ofiice style programs that are free and it would be a good slap in the wallet
>for Microsoft.

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I concur. Unfortunately for it, Linux seems to be evolving into a complex GUI like Windows and becoming easy enough for my 82 year old grandma and anyone else to use. While Windows remains the most popular OS it will stay in the crosshairs of malicious attackers leaving Linux relatively safe for now.


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:55 am, werner wrote:
>Wait until the Target is bigger,and the Virusattaccks will pick up!!And I am told
>Windows is easier.
>
>

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Good analogy.


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:55 am, Adam Bradley wrote:
>Read over this forum a bit and look at the knowledge level of the people asking for
>help

>Do you really think that most of them could handle Linux?

>As for Linux security, You know the Maginot Line was considered to be very secure

>And that army that manned it was regarded as one of the best in Europe

>Then the Hitler decided to attack France and the rest is history

>The moral of the story: any defense looks good as long as no one is shooting at it
>

>Windows takes the brunt of virus attacks for the same reason IE takes the brunt of
>spyware attacks

>It has a large market share and hackers and hijackers are going to attack the biggest
>target

>Just wait until Linux gets a decent portion of the home PC market and then we'll
>see just how secure it is

>Regards, Adam Bradley
>

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So how long do you think we will have to wait to see the onslaught start?
Linux defiantly has an advantage from a pricing standpoint but it has yet to break into the consumer market in a big way
and if price is the only advantage over windows it likely will not get to far
the price of the OS is real a drop in the bucket when buying a PC so it really isn’t issue on new PCs

the IE VS everybody else battle will get pretty interesting in the future
IEs dominance may well be weakened by micro$oft's own actions
Unless they have changed the plans IE 6 will be the last standalone version
All future versions will be integrated into the windows OSs of the future
So eventually they will drop support for IE 6
When the patches stop coming but the bugs keep appearing people may start to switch to competing products
It will defiantly be interesting to watch how it plays out, if longhorn is ever released that is
Regards, Adam Bradley


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 12:09 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>Good analogy.
>
>

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I and my whole family have been windows users since the dos days. Up to WPA our relationship with MS has been very good and we have purchased and used thousands of dollars worth of software from MS and other MS compatible companies. Activation was the last straw. Not only that but crashes and glitches are the norm with XP. I searched the web to find a Linux distribution that I could understand and was about to give up when someone refered me to a linux called Xandros Linux. The problem with our business and personal computers was a lack of ability to use existing windows compatible software in our business. Xandros has solved this problem, at least for us, by including CrossOver Office in the Xandros2.0 release. We can run Windows2000 Office and QuickBooks2002 and several other MS type programs native on our computers. This has freed us from the whole activation/crash problems and actually made us more productive. It is a shame that a 20yr relationship with Microsoft has come to an end, however, if we let Microsoft get away with this method of control, we are doomed to a more strengent strangle hold of control tomorrow and in the years to come. Should MS control my business via my computer? I don't think so! Thank You for listening, pauln


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:37 am, Clay Davis wrote:
>Linux can be download from the Internet for free but it is easier to buy a retail
>copy and there aren't nearly as many virus attacks on Linux. There is a lot of good
>free Ofiice style programs that are free and it would be a good slap in the wallet
>for Microsoft.

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I concur with most about Microsoft and the stranglehold they have had on most of the unaware public. I am a relative "newbie" to linux...."puchased SuSe v9 home edition. I had previous experience with unix AIX which helped a lot in making my decision. I installed a dual boot system with xp and linux. I must say the pluses GREATLY outweigh the "minuses". For 40 dollars I got an O.S. complete with more utilities, games, security, ...(you name it)than Microsoft ever dreamed of. SuSe installed linux alongside windows without a single problem, intelligently partitioning the drive, with a boot menu installed. SuSe automatically detected most all my hardware, didn't pick up my scanner. However I was amazed to find it correctly identified and installed my cd burner, dvd burner, printer, dsl modem (even detects many winmodems now)...my wireless microsoft mouse and keyboard, I was quite happy with the "play and play" linux provided. It is a truly stable and secure system,...you can set permissions on files, directories etc...being an administrator (root). The gui I believe, is a good thing, if it makes the general public more at ease having a windows-like interface. There is no reason for anyone to be afraid of linux at all, it has evolved into a user friendly low cost alternative to a bloated, STILL buggy, pocket gouging os. If you add up all the costs individually it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why $bill gates$ is the ahem...self made man that he is, and why hackers, crackers, and the like prefer to target the microsoft os. It is no wonder Mr Gates is afraid of linux and the open source community. He knows deep down that it is a matter of time before people get tired of $300 - $400 os's and paying the same cost for his office products (linux's openoffice) reads and writes both msword and excel, by the way..Cost ....$0.00 (included with the $40 linux os) Oh yes, I removed the preinstalled version of windows xp that came with my hp 522n and installed my xp disk purchased seperately and it wouldn'd detect my on board sound chip or video chip, had to hunt high and low to find drivers, however linux had no trouble with detection. One wish I have is that retailers would have the "stones" to put a linux machine and it's microsoft counterpart side by side instead of "hiding" a good alternative from the buying public. Of course they do have shelves and shelves of ms software (non-returnable, of course) which might gather dust..just a thought. Another reason you may want linux on your system, is if your ms os fails. You could still get on the net for info, heck you can even see your microsoft os filesystem while in linux...can't say that about any ms product I know of.... A big thanks to Mr Linus Torvalds and all the other developers out there globally, who made this FREE open source os possible. Even the poorest can afford a free os...And as for Microsoft, XP may be last os I buy from you guys, as I'm sick of the rediculous cost, VERY poor tech support, and all the lousy bs over the next "greatest of all windows os's" that will again turn out to be just plain mediocre. ps...and as far as your messenger service, activations, lengthy codes, and ENDLESS updates go ...thanks for nothing!


On Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 10:03 am, pauln wrote:
>I and my whole family have been windows users since the dos days. Up to WPA our
>relationship with MS has been very good and we have purchased and used thousands
>of dollars worth of software from MS and other MS compatible companies. Activation
>was the last straw. Not only that but crashes and glitches are the norm with XP.
> I searched the web to find a Linux distribution that I could understand and was
>about to give up when someone refered me to a linux called Xandros Linux. The problem
>with our business and personal computers was a lack of ability to use existing windows
>compatible software in our business. Xandros has solved this problem, at least for
>us, by including CrossOver Office in the Xandros2.0 release. We can run Windows2000
>Office and QuickBooks2002 and several other MS type programs native on our computers.
> This has freed us from the whole activation/crash problems and actually made us
>more productive. It is a shame that a 20yr relationship with Microsoft has come
>to an end, however, if we let Microsoft get away with this method of control, we
>are doomed to a more strengent strangle hold of control tomorrow and in the years
>to come. Should MS control my business via my computer? I don't think so!
>
>Thank You for listening, pauln
>
>

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Yes, it is less prone to viruses and other attacks now. but the big differance is how quickly linux can fix the bugs/loopholes. being opensource if you are an experienced user you could fix it your self. Have you ever heard of a non M$ employe fix a M$ related bug? I havn't. Right now the only reason im sticking to ms is one program that i need greatly. a music comp. software. other than that i would be only linux. *runs off to test this suse 9 I just got.


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:37 am, Clay Davis wrote:
>Linux can be download from the Internet for free but it is easier to buy a retail
>copy and there aren't nearly as many virus attacks on Linux. There is a lot of good
>free Ofiice style programs that are free and it would be a good slap in the wallet
>for Microsoft.

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I agree with everyone who has posted thus far, Linux is a way better operating system. there is nothing more to say except... Take a look at Microsoft now compare it to the Mac's, the mac's are going in the direction of opensource unix based OS's, precisely what OS X is. I personally enjoy my windows 2000 operating system purely for the gaming experience. Linux is a wonderful operating system the only thing it is missing (much like the macs) Is gaming support. I beleive if the consumer starts to fade away from Microsoft and their illicit control, eventual the seller's will meet the consumers wishes and convert from a purely Windows gaming environment to the more reliable and enjoyable linux or OS X. I have both a mac and a Pc running Windows and I have to say the more I use the iBook the more I fall in love.


On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 10:37 am, Clay Davis wrote:
>Linux can be download from the Internet for free but it is easier to buy a retail
>copy and there aren't nearly as many virus attacks on Linux. There is a lot of good
>free Ofiice style programs that are free and it would be a good slap in the wallet
>for Microsoft.

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