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re: windows stuck at maximal size Friday, January 30, 2004 at 7:28 pm Posted by triplate (20746 messages posted) Does F11 key reset it?? On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 7:17 pm, jim wrote: >Windows XP seems to get windows stuck at their maximized size without actually being >maximized: they are in the variable size mode but just take up the entire desktop. > This means the only way you can resize it is to (1) move it partially offscreen >so you can grab a corner, (2) resize it to something smaller and (3) move it back >since step (1) moved part of it off the desktop. Very annoying. > >Oftentimes, this happens when you've maximized the application and closed it so that >the next time you start up, it starts up large taking up the entire desktop but *not* >in a maximized state. What is really annoying, though, is when you haven't actually >closed the application or when it just seems to decide that, having at some point >been maximized, the next window brought up in the (multiple windows) application >will be full-sized but not maximized. > >Amazing how the folks at Microsoft can introduce stupidities such as this. Anyone >know of any patches or workarounds? > >Thanks. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows stuck at maximal size Friday, January 30, 2004 at 9:50 pm Posted by Ricer46 (22013 messages posted) It's funny how these "stupidities" that are always blamed on Microsoft affect so few people. I wonder why that is? On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 7:17 pm, jim wrote: >Windows XP seems to get windows stuck at their maximized size without actually being >maximized: they are in the variable size mode but just take up the entire desktop. > This means the only way you can resize it is to (1) move it partially offscreen >so you can grab a corner, (2) resize it to something smaller and (3) move it back >since step (1) moved part of it off the desktop. Very annoying. > >Oftentimes, this happens when you've maximized the application and closed it so that >the next time you start up, it starts up large taking up the entire desktop but *not* >in a maximized state. What is really annoying, though, is when you haven't actually >closed the application or when it just seems to decide that, having at some point >been maximized, the next window brought up in the (multiple windows) application >will be full-sized but not maximized. > >Amazing how the folks at Microsoft can introduce stupidities such as this. Anyone >know of any patches or workarounds? > >Thanks. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows stuck at maximal size Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 2:47 pm Posted by bluhboy (6 messages posted) No, it does not. It tries to: the window flickers as it switches from resizeable to maximized and then it is taking up the full desktop as a maximized window. Pressing F11 again causes it flickers again as it switches back from maximized to resizeable, but still taking up the entire desktop so I have to move it, resize it, move it back. On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 7:28 pm, triplate wrote: >Does F11 key reset it?? > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows stuck at maximal size Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 3:12 pm Posted by bluhboy (6 messages posted) Frustration, I suppose. This problem is particularly annoying since it is so cumbersome to fix up. It is also difficult to reproduce: in my reply to the F11 suggestion, I had to re-create the problem. So I closed an application with the window maximized and then re-started it. It didn't exhibit the behavior. I tried again and again over the following half an hour without success. Then, after returning to my work it happened. I can't even remember the sequence of steps except that I hadn't actually closed any applications although there were some maximized windows. Of course, I can't very well avoid using maximized windows entirely just to avoid this problem - I would simply just like to be able to have certain windows maxmized and certain windows resizeable. (By the way, I took the opportunity to test the F11 suggestion and it didn't work.) So, why blame it on Microsoft? I suppose, having used Windows 3.1, 95, 98, NT, 2000, Me and not noticing this problem until XP (and I've seen it all three versions, Home, Professional and Tablet) it does truly seem like a bug introduced to Windows XP. I know several other people who find this a frustrating problem but I they aren't the sort that would search out forums to try to resolve the problem. "Stupid" was in part a result of the frustration (it is easy to accidentally close the window when trying to drag it and resize it) and also in part knowing that such unpredictable bugs - by which I mean it is difficult to reproduce the behavior but it almost always show up a number of times a day - are especially disturbing because they indicate that the problem may be the result of sloppy work by a company that is creating new operating systems versions that seem to confuse differences with improvements. Like the auto mechanic you always feel may be creating more problems in your car to get return business, it seems like the new operating systems have to meet a quota of problems so that Microsoft can justify its business of introducing newer versions every year or so. On Friday, January 30, 2004 at 9:50 pm, Ricer46 wrote: >It's funny how these "stupidities" that are always blamed on Microsoft affect so >few people. I wonder why that is? > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: windows stuck at maximal size Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at 4:20 am Posted by bluhboy (6 messages posted) After asking around, it seems that a lot of folks find this problem annoying but, surprisingly enough, I have yet to find a solution to it. There seems to be a lot of folks on annoyances.org that ask about how to maximize a window upon startup but no one seems to ask about how to avoid the forced maximized size that is, in fact, not a maximized window but a "normal mode" window stretched out to the maximized size. Upon further experience, it seems that the bug is a system level one: it confuses the last application that had the window at maximized size and may cause another application to open up in that weird stretched-to-max size, instead. Any ideas? On Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 3:12 pm, jim wrote: >Frustration, I suppose. This problem is particularly annoying since it is so cumbersome >to fix up. It is also difficult to reproduce: in my reply to the F11 suggestion, >I had to re-create the problem. So I closed an application with the window maximized >and then re-started it. It didn't exhibit the behavior. I tried again and again >over the following half an hour without success. Then, after returning to my work >it happened. I can't even remember the sequence of steps except that I hadn't actually >closed any applications although there were some maximized windows. Of course, I >can't very well avoid using maximized windows entirely just to avoid this problem >- I would simply just like to be able to have certain windows maxmized and certain >windows resizeable. >(By the way, I took the opportunity to test the F11 suggestion and it didn't work.) > >So, why blame it on Microsoft? I suppose, having used Windows 3.1, 95, 98, NT, 2000, >Me and not noticing this problem until XP (and I've seen it all three versions, Home, >Professional and Tablet) it does truly seem like a bug introduced to Windows XP. > I know several other people who find this a frustrating problem but I they aren't > the sort that would search out forums to try to resolve the problem. > >"Stupid" was in part a result of the frustration (it is easy to accidentally close >the window when trying to drag it and resize it) and also in part knowing that such >unpredictable bugs - by which I mean it is difficult to reproduce the behavior but >it almost always show up a number of times a day - are especially disturbing because >they indicate that the problem may be the result of sloppy work by a company that >is creating new operating systems versions that seem to confuse differences with >improvements. Like the auto mechanic you always feel may be creating more problems >in your car to get return business, it seems like the new operating systems have >to meet a quota of problems so that Microsoft can justify its business of introducing >newer versions every year or so. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows XP Discussion Forum