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PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:31 am Posted by Pent
(22 messages posted)
OK... this has been going on for about a week.
Last Friday my PC had a funny smell coming from it, but at the time nothing was wrong
with it. After I got home from work and booted the PC... right when the Loading WinXP
screen usually comes up it rebooted, and it kept rebooting at the same spot and the
smell started getting worse. So I asked a few people what the cause of it could
be and they told me that more than likely it was my Power Supply (PSU), so I went
out and bought a new PSU... got it home and after installing it the PC still rebooted
at the same spot (once in a great while it would actually reboot to the scandisk
screen and then when it started scanning it would reboot). Since I didnt think it
was the PSU anymore I installed my other PSU back. While installing it I noticed
that I had leaky capcitors on my motherboard and they were very hot, so I automatically
thought I had found the problem... I took the PSU back and swapped it out with a
new motherboard... After installing the board the PC STILL rebooted.
So after that I only hooked up one HDD, my video card (GF4 ti4400), my DVD burner,
modem, one DIMM of 512MB RAM... that seemed to do something for awhile, but after
an hour it rebooted again...
Once again I asked around and someone said that my processor(AthlonXP 2000+) might
be going bad, so went into my BIOS and set the FSB to 100 and the PC booted fine,
so I hooked up everything back like it was originally and as long as I kept the 100FSB
set it didnt reboot.
I ordered a new processor (AthlonXP 2700+) and got it in and installed it (yes, I
used thermal compound) and it ran fine til I realized that the FSB was still at 100FSB
(which only gave me 1.2Ghz of clockspeed), so I set it to 133FSB and it ran fine
at 1.7Ghz, so I then decided to take it to 166FSB to get the actual speed the chip
was supposed to run at (2.17Ghz), BUT the speed actually went back down 1.2Ghz. I
checked to make sure my Vcore for the chip was at 1.65v and it was.. so I forced
the 13x multiplier on the BIOS for the 166FSB... and the PC started to reboot again...
so I took it back down to the default multiplier and 133FSB and it was running ok
for one day... it just rebooted on me about an hour ago...
I have tested the RAM with Memtest86 and had it do one pass.. there were NO errors.
Since last Friday I have reformatted my C: drive at least 5 times because the rebooting
is messing up the actual boot files and windows.
I have no clue what is going on, but I seriously need help with it.
I have a new motherboard and a new proceesor in it, so I doubt it could be either
one of those... the PSU I tried did the same thing as the old PSU, so I exchanged
the new one for the new motherboard.
This is corrupting my other HDDs too...
I formatted several different times with WinXP Pro with and without the SP1 pack...
The only other constants are the video card, RAM(two DIMMs of 512MB RAM), and the
modem (maybe something else I am overlooking), and like I said all of the RAM tests
I have done came back with no errors.
You think the RAM is bad? (no error during testing)
A Virus maybe? (remember I have reformatted and hooked up a totally different HDD
as the C: since this began)
I seriously need help...
Thanks, Pent
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:44 am Posted by chester
(66 messages posted)
Ok that was quite descriptive. I have a couple of ideas that I will mull over for
a few minutes while I reread your story a couple of times, but the first thing that
comes to mind is a friend of mine bought his first PC, I put the whole thing together
for him in normal quality fashion. a few days after he had it, it started doing the
exact same thing. rebooting randomly. I really beat my head on the wall for awhile
before the wall gave me an idea. My education is in electronics, working as a repair
tech at the time I happened to own a shiny new $400 Fluke digital multimeter with
a logging function. so I hooked it up to the wall socket, and low and behold brownouts.
It is an undercurrent condition about the opposite of a power 'surge'. and probably
the cause of your capitors failing. The soulition a $65 power conditioner. Cheapist
thing you ever saw not bigger than a 20 pk of cds, but it solved the problem. This
is a no brainer. take the computer to someone elses house and see what happens. Like
I said I will give it some more thought, and I will post if I com up with anything.
Good luck
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:31 am, Pent wrote:
>OK... this has been going on for about a week.
>Last Friday my PC had a funny smell coming from it, but at the time nothing was
wrong
>with it. After I got home from work and booted the PC... right when the Loading
WinXP
>screen usually comes up it rebooted, and it kept rebooting at the same spot and
the
>smell started getting worse. So I asked a few people what the cause of it could
>be and they told me that more than likely it was my Power Supply (PSU), so I went
>out and bought a new PSU... got it home and after installing it the PC still rebooted
>at the same spot (once in a great while it would actually reboot to the scandisk
>screen and then when it started scanning it would reboot). Since I didnt think
it
>was the PSU anymore I installed my other PSU back. While installing it I noticed
>that I had leaky capcitors on my motherboard and they were very hot, so I automatically
>thought I had found the problem... I took the PSU back and swapped it out with
a
>new motherboard... After installing the board the PC STILL rebooted.
>So after that I only hooked up one HDD, my video card (GF4 ti4400), my DVD burner,
>modem, one DIMM of 512MB RAM... that seemed to do something for awhile, but after
>an hour it rebooted again...
>Once again I asked around and someone said that my processor(AthlonXP 2000+) might
>be going bad, so went into my BIOS and set the FSB to 100 and the PC booted fine,
>so I hooked up everything back like it was originally and as long as I kept the
100FSB
>set it didnt reboot.
>I ordered a new processor (AthlonXP 2700+) and got it in and installed it (yes,
I
>used thermal compound) and it ran fine til I realized that the FSB was still at
100FSB
>(which only gave me 1.2Ghz of clockspeed), so I set it to 133FSB and it ran fine
>at 1.7Ghz, so I then decided to take it to 166FSB to get the actual speed the chip
>was supposed to run at (2.17Ghz), BUT the speed actually went back down 1.2Ghz.
I
>checked to make sure my Vcore for the chip was at 1.65v and it was.. so I forced
>the 13x multiplier on the BIOS for the 166FSB... and the PC started to reboot again...
>so I took it back down to the default multiplier and 133FSB and it was running ok
>for one day... it just rebooted on me about an hour ago...
>I have tested the RAM with Memtest86 and had it do one pass.. there were NO errors.
>Since last Friday I have reformatted my C: drive at least 5 times because the rebooting
>is messing up the actual boot files and windows.
>I have no clue what is going on, but I seriously need help with it.
>I have a new motherboard and a new proceesor in it, so I doubt it could be either
>one of those... the PSU I tried did the same thing as the old PSU, so I exchanged
>the new one for the new motherboard.
>This is corrupting my other HDDs too...
>I formatted several different times with WinXP Pro with and without the SP1 pack...
>The only other constants are the video card, RAM(two DIMMs of 512MB RAM), and the
>modem (maybe something else I am overlooking), and like I said all of the RAM tests
>I have done came back with no errors.
>
>You think the RAM is bad? (no error during testing)
>
>A Virus maybe? (remember I have reformatted and hooked up a totally different HDD
>as the C: since this began)
>
>I seriously need help...
>Thanks, Pent
>
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 11:04 am Posted by Tom Sargent
(6 messages posted)
By default XP is set to reboot automatically when you get a system failure. You need
to turn this feature off to find out what is going wrong to cause the continuous
rebooting.
Load XP (running the bus at at a lower speed if necessary) and uncheck "auto restart"
under Startup and Recovery
"Auto restart" is specifically located in Control Panel -> Performance & Maint ->
System -> System Properties -> Startup & Recovery.
Now set the BIOS to the correct speed, reboot, and see if you get a meaningful error
message when the system crashes...
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:31 am, Pent wrote:
>OK... this has been going on for about a week.
>Last Friday my PC had a funny smell coming from it, but at the time nothing was
wrong
>with it. After I got home from work and booted the PC... right when the Loading
WinXP
>screen usually comes up it rebooted, and it kept rebooting at the same spot and
the
>smell started getting worse. So I asked a few people what the cause of it could
>be and they told me that more than likely it was my Power Supply (PSU), so I went
>out and bought a new PSU... got it home and after installing it the PC still rebooted
>at the same spot (once in a great while it would actually reboot to the scandisk
>screen and then when it started scanning it would reboot). Since I didnt think
it
>was the PSU anymore I installed my other PSU back. While installing it I noticed
>that I had leaky capcitors on my motherboard and they were very hot, so I automatically
>thought I had found the problem... I took the PSU back and swapped it out with
a
>new motherboard... After installing the board the PC STILL rebooted.
>So after that I only hooked up one HDD, my video card (GF4 ti4400), my DVD burner,
>modem, one DIMM of 512MB RAM... that seemed to do something for awhile, but after
>an hour it rebooted again...
>Once again I asked around and someone said that my processor(AthlonXP 2000+) might
>be going bad, so went into my BIOS and set the FSB to 100 and the PC booted fine,
>so I hooked up everything back like it was originally and as long as I kept the
100FSB
>set it didnt reboot.
>I ordered a new processor (AthlonXP 2700+) and got it in and installed it (yes,
I
>used thermal compound) and it ran fine til I realized that the FSB was still at
100FSB
>(which only gave me 1.2Ghz of clockspeed), so I set it to 133FSB and it ran fine
>at 1.7Ghz, so I then decided to take it to 166FSB to get the actual speed the chip
>was supposed to run at (2.17Ghz), BUT the speed actually went back down 1.2Ghz.
I
>checked to make sure my Vcore for the chip was at 1.65v and it was.. so I forced
>the 13x multiplier on the BIOS for the 166FSB... and the PC started to reboot again...
>so I took it back down to the default multiplier and 133FSB and it was running ok
>for one day... it just rebooted on me about an hour ago...
>I have tested the RAM with Memtest86 and had it do one pass.. there were NO errors.
>Since last Friday I have reformatted my C: drive at least 5 times because the rebooting
>is messing up the actual boot files and windows.
>I have no clue what is going on, but I seriously need help with it.
>I have a new motherboard and a new proceesor in it, so I doubt it could be either
>one of those... the PSU I tried did the same thing as the old PSU, so I exchanged
>the new one for the new motherboard.
>This is corrupting my other HDDs too...
>I formatted several different times with WinXP Pro with and without the SP1 pack...
>The only other constants are the video card, RAM(two DIMMs of 512MB RAM), and the
>modem (maybe something else I am overlooking), and like I said all of the RAM tests
>I have done came back with no errors.
>
>You think the RAM is bad? (no error during testing)
>
>A Virus maybe? (remember I have reformatted and hooked up a totally different HDD
>as the C: since this began)
>
>I seriously need help...
>Thanks, Pent
>
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 11:06 am Posted by chester
(66 messages posted)
Ok, I gave it some more thought. since you had caps go bad on the board that pretty
much leaves anything else thats plugged into the computer that could be bad. Now,
if your sure it isnt the power supply, or the wall supply, I see it could be one
of two things. if the caps were near where the power supply plugs into the board
then you may have damaged a perifrial card such as graphics or modem with voltage,
if the caps were near the chip or ram, you may have damaged one or both with frequency.
And yes if it isnt a power supply issue, it definatly sounds like a timing problem.
Your ram could very well be bad. At high speeds system clocks are critical. I dunno,
im tired I've been up for 40 hours. I wish you luck.
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:31 am, Pent wrote:
>OK... this has been going on for about a week.
>Last Friday my PC had a funny smell coming from it, but at the time nothing was
wrong
>with it. After I got home from work and booted the PC... right when the Loading
WinXP
>screen usually comes up it rebooted, and it kept rebooting at the same spot and
the
>smell started getting worse. So I asked a few people what the cause of it could
>be and they told me that more than likely it was my Power Supply (PSU), so I went
>out and bought a new PSU... got it home and after installing it the PC still rebooted
>at the same spot (once in a great while it would actually reboot to the scandisk
>screen and then when it started scanning it would reboot). Since I didnt think
it
>was the PSU anymore I installed my other PSU back. While installing it I noticed
>that I had leaky capcitors on my motherboard and they were very hot, so I automatically
>thought I had found the problem... I took the PSU back and swapped it out with
a
>new motherboard... After installing the board the PC STILL rebooted.
>So after that I only hooked up one HDD, my video card (GF4 ti4400), my DVD burner,
>modem, one DIMM of 512MB RAM... that seemed to do something for awhile, but after
>an hour it rebooted again...
>Once again I asked around and someone said that my processor(AthlonXP 2000+) might
>be going bad, so went into my BIOS and set the FSB to 100 and the PC booted fine,
>so I hooked up everything back like it was originally and as long as I kept the
100FSB
>set it didnt reboot.
>I ordered a new processor (AthlonXP 2700+) and got it in and installed it (yes,
I
>used thermal compound) and it ran fine til I realized that the FSB was still at
100FSB
>(which only gave me 1.2Ghz of clockspeed), so I set it to 133FSB and it ran fine
>at 1.7Ghz, so I then decided to take it to 166FSB to get the actual speed the chip
>was supposed to run at (2.17Ghz), BUT the speed actually went back down 1.2Ghz.
I
>checked to make sure my Vcore for the chip was at 1.65v and it was.. so I forced
>the 13x multiplier on the BIOS for the 166FSB... and the PC started to reboot again...
>so I took it back down to the default multiplier and 133FSB and it was running ok
>for one day... it just rebooted on me about an hour ago...
>I have tested the RAM with Memtest86 and had it do one pass.. there were NO errors.
>Since last Friday I have reformatted my C: drive at least 5 times because the rebooting
>is messing up the actual boot files and windows.
>I have no clue what is going on, but I seriously need help with it.
>I have a new motherboard and a new proceesor in it, so I doubt it could be either
>one of those... the PSU I tried did the same thing as the old PSU, so I exchanged
>the new one for the new motherboard.
>This is corrupting my other HDDs too...
>I formatted several different times with WinXP Pro with and without the SP1 pack...
>The only other constants are the video card, RAM(two DIMMs of 512MB RAM), and the
>modem (maybe something else I am overlooking), and like I said all of the RAM tests
>I have done came back with no errors.
>
>You think the RAM is bad? (no error during testing)
>
>A Virus maybe? (remember I have reformatted and hooked up a totally different HDD
>as the C: since this began)
>
>I seriously need help...
>Thanks, Pent
>
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 11:14 am Posted by triplate
(20834 messages posted)
Low power has absolutely no effect on capacitors...other than taking longer to discharge.
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:44 am, Someone wrote:
>Ok that was quite descriptive. I have a couple of ideas that I will mull over for
>a few minutes while I reread your story a couple of times, but the first thing that
>comes to mind is a friend of mine bought his first PC, I put the whole thing together
>for him in normal quality fashion. a few days after he had it, it started doing
the
>exact same thing. rebooting randomly. I really beat my head on the wall for awhile
>before the wall gave me an idea. My education is in electronics, working as a repair
>tech at the time I happened to own a shiny new $400 Fluke digital multimeter with
>a logging function. so I hooked it up to the wall socket, and low and behold brownouts.
>It is an undercurrent condition about the opposite of a power 'surge'. and probably
>the cause of your capitors failing. The soulition a $65 power conditioner. Cheapist
>thing you ever saw not bigger than a 20 pk of cds, but it solved the problem. This
>is a no brainer. take the computer to someone elses house and see what happens.
Like
>I said I will give it some more thought, and I will post if I com up with anything.
>Good luck
>
>
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 11:32 am Posted by Pent
(22 messages posted)
The thing is... I would say almost 85% of the rebooting happens before it even gets
into windows...
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 11:04 am, Tom Sargent wrote:
>By default XP is set to reboot automatically when you get a system failure. You
need
>to turn this feature off to find out what is going wrong to cause the continuous
>rebooting.
>
>Load XP (running the bus at at a lower speed if necessary) and uncheck "auto restart"
>under Startup and Recovery
>"Auto restart" is specifically located in Control Panel -> Performance & Maint ->
>System -> System Properties -> Startup & Recovery.
>
>Now set the BIOS to the correct speed, reboot, and see if you get a meaningful error
>message when the system crashes...
>
>
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 12:20 pm Posted by Howard
(16 messages posted)
Just a thought, if you are experiencing voltage fluctuations at your outlets, have
your electrical panel checked. I had a similar problem, and it turned out that there
was a bad connection in the meter box on the outside of the house. I lost two tvs
and blew up the power strip to the pc. If the voltage is constant and your lights
don't flicker or dim as you turn things on, then it has to be something hiding in
the pc.
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:31 am, Pent wrote:
>OK... this has been going on for about a week.
>Last Friday my PC had a funny smell coming from it, but at the time nothing was
wrong
>with it. After I got home from work and booted the PC... right when the Loading
WinXP
>screen usually comes up it rebooted, and it kept rebooting at the same spot and
the
>smell started getting worse. So I asked a few people what the cause of it could
>be and they told me that more than likely it was my Power Supply (PSU), so I went
>out and bought a new PSU... got it home and after installing it the PC still rebooted
>at the same spot (once in a great while it would actually reboot to the scandisk
>screen and then when it started scanning it would reboot). Since I didnt think
it
>was the PSU anymore I installed my other PSU back. While installing it I noticed
>that I had leaky capcitors on my motherboard and they were very hot, so I automatically
>thought I had found the problem... I took the PSU back and swapped it out with
a
>new motherboard... After installing the board the PC STILL rebooted.
>So after that I only hooked up one HDD, my video card (GF4 ti4400), my DVD burner,
>modem, one DIMM of 512MB RAM... that seemed to do something for awhile, but after
>an hour it rebooted again...
>Once again I asked around and someone said that my processor(AthlonXP 2000+) might
>be going bad, so went into my BIOS and set the FSB to 100 and the PC booted fine,
>so I hooked up everything back like it was originally and as long as I kept the
100FSB
>set it didnt reboot.
>I ordered a new processor (AthlonXP 2700+) and got it in and installed it (yes,
I
>used thermal compound) and it ran fine til I realized that the FSB was still at
100FSB
>(which only gave me 1.2Ghz of clockspeed), so I set it to 133FSB and it ran fine
>at 1.7Ghz, so I then decided to take it to 166FSB to get the actual speed the chip
>was supposed to run at (2.17Ghz), BUT the speed actually went back down 1.2Ghz.
I
>checked to make sure my Vcore for the chip was at 1.65v and it was.. so I forced
>the 13x multiplier on the BIOS for the 166FSB... and the PC started to reboot again...
>so I took it back down to the default multiplier and 133FSB and it was running ok
>for one day... it just rebooted on me about an hour ago...
>I have tested the RAM with Memtest86 and had it do one pass.. there were NO errors.
>Since last Friday I have reformatted my C: drive at least 5 times because the rebooting
>is messing up the actual boot files and windows.
>I have no clue what is going on, but I seriously need help with it.
>I have a new motherboard and a new proceesor in it, so I doubt it could be either
>one of those... the PSU I tried did the same thing as the old PSU, so I exchanged
>the new one for the new motherboard.
>This is corrupting my other HDDs too...
>I formatted several different times with WinXP Pro with and without the SP1 pack...
>The only other constants are the video card, RAM(two DIMMs of 512MB RAM), and the
>modem (maybe something else I am overlooking), and like I said all of the RAM tests
>I have done came back with no errors.
>
>You think the RAM is bad? (no error during testing)
>
>A Virus maybe? (remember I have reformatted and hooked up a totally different HDD
>as the C: since this began)
>
>I seriously need help...
>Thanks, Pent
>
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:19 pm Posted by Flandry Mossback
(1 messages posted)
I have a computer that was randomly crashing and trashing the file system, corrupting
files, all sorts of ugly stuff. I did a lot of what you've done. I finally narrowed
it down to one of the ram dimms. Once I replaced that with a known good unit, everything
cleared up. I had to restore the system from a backup because of all the damage,
but now it's running fine. Besides, there's not much left. Power fluctuations *can*
cause all sorts of grief, but you'd see the evidence in your tv, your room lights,
all sorts of other places. The PS in your computer is designed to overcome a certain
amount of that. Fluctuations you can't see in other parts of your house wouldn't
be likely to affect the computer. By the way, just to prove the point, after I had
the system running reliably, I put the suspect dimm back in and all the trouble immediately
started again. So I took it back out, repaired the damage and now everything is fine.
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 10:31 am, Pent wrote:
>OK... this has been going on for about a week.
>Last Friday my PC had a funny smell coming from it, but at the time nothing was
wrong
>with it. After I got home from work and booted the PC... right when the Loading
WinXP
>screen usually comes up it rebooted, and it kept rebooting at the same spot and
the
>smell started getting worse. So I asked a few people what the cause of it could
>be and they told me that more than likely it was my Power Supply (PSU), so I went
>out and bought a new PSU... got it home and after installing it the PC still rebooted
>at the same spot (once in a great while it would actually reboot to the scandisk
>screen and then when it started scanning it would reboot). Since I didnt think
it
>was the PSU anymore I installed my other PSU back. While installing it I noticed
>that I had leaky capcitors on my motherboard and they were very hot, so I automatically
>thought I had found the problem... I took the PSU back and swapped it out with
a
>new motherboard... After installing the board the PC STILL rebooted.
>So after that I only hooked up one HDD, my video card (GF4 ti4400), my DVD burner,
>modem, one DIMM of 512MB RAM... that seemed to do something for awhile, but after
>an hour it rebooted again...
>Once again I asked around and someone said that my processor(AthlonXP 2000+) might
>be going bad, so went into my BIOS and set the FSB to 100 and the PC booted fine,
>so I hooked up everything back like it was originally and as long as I kept the
100FSB
>set it didnt reboot.
>I ordered a new processor (AthlonXP 2700+) and got it in and installed it (yes,
I
>used thermal compound) and it ran fine til I realized that the FSB was still at
100FSB
>(which only gave me 1.2Ghz of clockspeed), so I set it to 133FSB and it ran fine
>at 1.7Ghz, so I then decided to take it to 166FSB to get the actual speed the chip
>was supposed to run at (2.17Ghz), BUT the speed actually went back down 1.2Ghz.
I
>checked to make sure my Vcore for the chip was at 1.65v and it was.. so I forced
>the 13x multiplier on the BIOS for the 166FSB... and the PC started to reboot again...
>so I took it back down to the default multiplier and 133FSB and it was running ok
>for one day... it just rebooted on me about an hour ago...
>I have tested the RAM with Memtest86 and had it do one pass.. there were NO errors.
>Since last Friday I have reformatted my C: drive at least 5 times because the rebooting
>is messing up the actual boot files and windows.
>I have no clue what is going on, but I seriously need help with it.
>I have a new motherboard and a new proceesor in it, so I doubt it could be either
>one of those... the PSU I tried did the same thing as the old PSU, so I exchanged
>the new one for the new motherboard.
>This is corrupting my other HDDs too...
>I formatted several different times with WinXP Pro with and without the SP1 pack...
>The only other constants are the video card, RAM(two DIMMs of 512MB RAM), and the
>modem (maybe something else I am overlooking), and like I said all of the RAM tests
>I have done came back with no errors.
>
>You think the RAM is bad? (no error during testing)
>
>A Virus maybe? (remember I have reformatted and hooked up a totally different HDD
>as the C: since this began)
>
>I seriously need help...
>Thanks, Pent
>
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re: PC still rebooting.. bad RAM? New Chip/motherboard.
Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 4:54 am Posted by Tom Sargent
(6 messages posted)
Windows launches processes before the welcome screen appears. If one of those should
crash, error trapping could default you to a reboot and you'd never know.
If you can slow the clock and successfully boot up, why don't you check the event
logs that Windows compiles during the boot process (and at all times)? These are
date and time stamped, and might show you what process was running, or trying to
run, when the reboots occurred.
You can launch the event log viewer at: control panel -> performance & maintenance
-> administrative tools -> eventviewer. Take a look at the system and application
logs. Look for Error and Warning postings, denoted by red and yellow symbols.
Good luck.
On Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 11:32 am, Pent wrote:
>The thing is... I would say almost 85% of the rebooting happens before it even gets
>into windows...
>
>
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