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Suggestion for another "Top Reason" for XP crashes
Monday, February 21, 2005 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Trogdor (5 messages posted)

My Windows XP install was very buggy. It would post, but regularly lock up during boot. It would take multiple hard resets before the OS would boot all the way to the desktop.

The cause of the lockups in this case was the EIDE cable. My master OS harddisk was connected to the last port on the EIDE cable. The master device must be connected to the middle port on the EIDE cable. My guess is this is a temination problem, and that random data echoes can occur if a master device is not attached to the middle EIDE port.

If other people have seen this problem, or if this is a known issue, I think it should be added as a bullet to the list above. This fix has resovled 2 months of pain for me.

Trogdor

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re: Suggestion for another "Top Reason" for XP crashes
Monday, February 21, 2005 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Trogdor (5 messages posted)

This post was supposed to go under the Trobleshooting discussion of "The Top Reasons for XP Crashes", but it ended up here. :(

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re: Suggestion for another "Top Reason" for XP crashes
Monday, February 21, 2005 at 10:10 pm
Posted by jaf (3408 messages posted)

Sounds like you need a new 80 conductor cable, and check the drive jumper. In modern configurations, the master goes on the end ;)

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re: Suggestion for another "Top Reason" for XP crashes
Monday, February 21, 2005 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Ricer46 (23823 messages posted)

This is not typical, I think something else was going on. IDE drives don't require 
"termination."






On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 9:29 pm, Trogdor wrote:
>My Windows XP install was very buggy. It would post, but regularly lock up during
>boot. It would take multiple hard resets before the OS would boot all the way to
>the desktop.


>
>The cause of the lockups in this case was the EIDE cable. My master OS harddisk
>was connected to the last port on the EIDE cable. The master device must be connected
>to the middle port on the EIDE cable. My guess is this is a temination problem,
>and that random data echoes can occur if a master device is not attached to the middle
>EIDE port.


>
>If other people have seen this problem, or if this is a known issue, I think it should
>be added as a bullet to the list above. This fix has resovled 2 months of pain for
>me.


>
>Trogdor

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re: Suggestion for another "Top Reason" for XP crashes
Saturday, March 12, 2005 at 10:05 am
Posted by Bob Jackson (4 messages posted)

Maybe that's the reason windows XP crashses so much. 
Be flexible, try it, don't get stuck in "the way soandso said
it shoud be"

These OS's are full of weird bugs, they may require weird
fixes






On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 10:10 pm, jaf wrote:
>Sounds like you need a new 80 conductor cable, and check the drive jumper. In modern
>configurations, the master goes on the end ;)
>
>

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re: Suggestion for another "Top Reason" for XP crashes
Friday, January 13, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Maggy Rond (3 messages posted)

What actually is typical is that there are two ways to configure it right and one way that's wrong but that sometimes does work. Right method 1: -Put jumper on one drive as master, put jumper on second drive as slave. Connect both to flatcable, 80 wire if one or both is ultra ATA 66, 100, 133, 80 or 40 wire if both are older types or if controller is a vintage type. Which connector on which drive should not matter. Right method 2: Put jumper on both drives in cable select position. Use only 80 wire cable with different colored connectors and modern controller. Place the drive you want as master at the end of the cable. In a single boot system you would probably install your operating system on the primary partition of the master, but that's no law. Wrong method: configure one as master or slave, the other as cable select. Probably your BIOS won't see both drives but I've seen cases that it does work... but of course this asks for instability


On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 10:43 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>This is not typical, I think something else was going on. IDE drives don't require
>"termination."
>
>
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