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can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 11:25 am
Posted by Johnoh
(41 messages posted)
when I try to run admin tools > services, I get an error message "snap-in failed
to initialize".
fyi - when I do admin tools > services, the icon next to the word services is that
icon you see next to files that windows does not have a file association for, like
if you creat a file called abc.xxy, its icon will that same icon. This one:
http://web.mit.edu/is/help/klp/win98-images/Unknown-File.gif
Also, when I do start > run > mmc > file > add/remove snap-in > add, Services does
not appear as a potential snap-in for me to add. On my other machine, it does appear.
Its as though its not registered.
Maybe there is a DLL I need to register?
What should i do?
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re: can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 11:49 am
Posted by borg
(2664 messages posted)
Do you have the "c:\windows\system32\services.msc" file? The icon is in that file.
If it's not there, is in the install kit as "\i386\services.ms_". This is a cab file,
use the expand command.
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re: can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Johnoh
(41 messages posted)
Okay I did that, just in case the current services.msc was bad. No change.
On Monday, February 28, 2005 at 11:49 am, borg wrote:
>Do you have the "c:\windows\system32\services.msc" file? The icon is in that file.
>If it's not there, is in the install kit as "\i386\services.ms_". This is a cab
file,
>use the expand command.
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re: can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 12:49 pm
Posted by borg
(2664 messages posted)
Does Computer Management -> Services and Applications -> Services work?
Or start -> run -> services.msc? Maybe it's that shortcut. Edit the shortcut properties
and set these (if different):
Target: %SystemRoot%\system32\services.msc /s
Start in: %HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH%
Run: Normal window
Description: Starts and stop services.
Really important is only the target. To change the icon click "Change Icon", set
the file to %SystemRoot%\system32\filemgmt.dll, first icon.
On Monday, February 28, 2005 at 12:38 pm, Johnoh wrote:
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>Okay I did that, just in case the current services.msc was bad. No change.
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re: can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Johnoh
(41 messages posted)
okay icon is fixed. thx
shortcut was correct
"Computer Management -> Services and Applications -> Services" results in message:
"no administrable services found"
and yet system info > services does show that there are a bunch of services running,
and stopped.
I am logged on as administrator btw
On Monday, February 28, 2005 at 12:49 pm, borg wrote:
>Does Computer Management -> Services and Applications -> Services work?
>Or start -> run -> services.msc? Maybe it's that shortcut. Edit the shortcut properties
>and set these (if different):
>Target: %SystemRoot%\system32\services.msc /s
>Start in: %HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH%
>Run: Normal window
>Description: Starts and stop services.
>
>Really important is only the target. To change the icon click "Change Icon", set
>the file to %SystemRoot%\system32\filemgmt.dll, first icon.
>
>
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re: can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Johnoh
(41 messages posted)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q312306
and the above link did not fix it either. Ahg!
On Monday, February 28, 2005 at 1:31 pm, Johnoh wrote:
>okay icon is fixed. thx
>
>shortcut was correct
>
>"Computer Management -> Services and Applications -> Services" results in message:
>"no administrable services found"
>
>and yet system info > services does show that there are a bunch of services running,
>and stopped.
>
>I am logged on as administrator btw
>
>
>
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re: can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 2:53 pm
Posted by borg
(2664 messages posted)
Some more research is needed here. Regedit to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
Verify (with r-click, permissions) that Administrators and SYSTEM have full control
on the above key and no "deny" is checked. Ok if the permission is grayed, means
that is inherited from the parent key. Now try to start/stop a service from command
prompt. Remember some not-disabled but non-essential service? Maybe "help and support"
(helpsvc). Or "automatic updates" (wuauserv).
net stop helpsvc
net start helpsvc
Query a service and post the result:
sc query helpsvc
The type for this service should be "20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS".
Or you can query all non-kernel (administrable) services, but it's a long list:
sc query type= service [space only after equals]
If all these work as they should it's some MMC problem and I'm out of ideas. Services
can be controlled via command line...
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re: can't start/stop services
Monday, February 28, 2005 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Johnoh
(41 messages posted)
thanks for all your help borg. I replaced and re-registered filemgmt.dll and now
its working.
On Monday, February 28, 2005 at 2:53 pm, borg wrote:
>Some more research is needed here. Regedit to:
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
>
>Verify (with r-click, permissions) that Administrators and SYSTEM have full control
>on the above key and no "deny" is checked. Ok if the permission is grayed, means
>that is inherited from the parent key. Now try to start/stop a service from command
>prompt. Remember some not-disabled but non-essential service? Maybe "help and support"
>(helpsvc). Or "automatic updates" (wuauserv).
>net stop helpsvc
>net start helpsvc
>
>Query a service and post the result:
>sc query helpsvc
>
>The type for this service should be "20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS".
>Or you can query all non-kernel (administrable) services, but it's a long list:
>sc query type= service [space only after equals]
>
>If all these work as they should it's some MMC problem and I'm out of ideas. Services
>can be controlled via command line...
>
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re: can't start/stop services
Friday, March 18, 2005 at 10:03 pm
Posted by TjL
(1 messages posted)
Yay!
I was having this same problem, and replacing filemgmt.dll solved the problem for
me too.
Thanks!
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re: can't start/stop services
Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:06 am
Posted by Amber
(1 messages posted)
I also had this problem and replacing the filemgmt.dll worked perfectly. Thanks
On Friday, March 18, 2005 at 10:03 pm, TjL wrote:
>Yay!
>
>I was having this same problem, and replacing filemgmt.dll solved the problem for
>me too.
>
>Thanks!
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