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re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 5:20 pm Posted by Steve (21642 messages posted) Stop using IE for browsing, and you will not need most of the programs, though I doubt they are as much of a memory problem as you think. Steve [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 5:42 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) AVGuard uses so much memory beause anything you do and everytihng you do gets scanned before you do it. Right down to opening up your favorited menu, it scans it and hence makes some things go that much slower. I don't think I need to use SpywareGuard and SpywareBlaster do I? Using both seems a little odd. Despite all of this memory issue I am very protected lol. But my programs go real slow sometimes... :( [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 5:47 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) Why would you need both McAfee and Antiviguard (whatever that is) running? You should never have two AV programs running at once, never! Spybot and CWShredder don't need to be running in the background, so why are they? They're only cleaners. Spyware Blaster doesnt' need to be running at all, so it's function isn't the same as SG. If you're that paranoid, then you'll need to live with the slowdown. Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 5:54 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) "I'm using SpywareGuard, SpywareBlaster, Mcafee, AntiVirGuard, Spybot, CWShredder, and many more..." Many more? I hate to ask, but what are the others? Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:05 pm Posted by Steve (21642 messages posted) On the 2 web surfers I use. I just have Firefox, and still use spywareblaster, and Adaware Se for the occasional stale cookie. Some Friends, and Family that have also traded in IE for Firefox have reported to me they also have very little malware problems anymore. Steve [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:20 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) Carol, I forgot to take out the "...and more". I put that in and then wrote the rest of the apps forgetting to take out the "...many more". I didnt say I had spybot and cwshredder in the background, thats not even a feature on it. Spywareblaster has to run in background I thought, when you minimize it it goes hidden in the tray and it protects against stuff. Same with spywareguiard. Antivirusgaurd does the same thing as spywareguard but for viruses. I don't use mcafee too much and it didn't protect, it just scans so I got antvirusgaurd to protect against incoming viruses. So let me write it out for all of you lol I use: 1. McAfee - Antvirus scanning. (runs in background for updates and like a daily virus scan) 2. Windows Firewall - as my firewall (runs in background ofcourse, its a firewall) 3. Spybot - To get rid of spyware 4. Adaware SE - to get rid of spyware spybot didn't get rid of. 5. Spyware Guard - to protect from incoming spyware (runs in background) 6. Spyware Blaster - to protect from incoming spyware spyware guard didn't. (runs in background 7. CW Shredder - to get rid of those annoying toolbars that will try to take over my internet. 8. AntiVirxp - to scan for viruses MCafee couldn't find. 9. AntiVir Guard - to protect me from incoming viruses. (runs in background **When I say runs in background I mean when you exit the program it still works. Like when you press minimize on spywareblaster it is still protecting you but its not shown. I have optimal protection however it is demanding. :'( [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:32 pm Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted) SpywareBlaster does not need to run in the background. You should NEVER run two resident AV programs. Uninstall or disable either 1 or 9. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:39 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) OK, that doesn't sound quite as bad. Still, two AV's running providing real- time protection is a big no no! As Otter said, Spyware Blaster doesn't need to be running. The only time you need to start it is to check for updates and double check ocassionally to see that all protection is still enabled. Then Exit it. No minimize, just Exit. Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:39 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) #1 is just a scanner while #9 is a guard. Mcafee is a running process only because it scans for viruses every day or so. AntvirGuard scans everytihng you do as you do it and will not let infected files execute. Also, I thought spyware blaster was a running process but it is not. When you click the X it says it is still working even though it is not on. Does this mean I don't even have to start it up in the first place? I have it loading on system start up. Do I have to do that? And what I think is that I do not need SpywareBlaster AND SpywareGuard. Would you agree? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:48 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) Chris, you're not paying attention to what's been said, so read all the replies again and think about it. No, to two AV's, and I've already answered your ? about SB and SG, basically. Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 6:52 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) Just answer this (and don't say you already answered it please, just tell me again). 1. Do I need to have spywareblaster start up on system start up for it to work? I know it doesn't need to be running but it seems wierd that a program would work without it initially being run when the computer starts. 2. What should I toss, SpywareBlaster or SpywareGuard, they do the same thing. 3. I understand that I shouldn't have McAfee and Antivir but Antivir has found so much more stuff than McAfee has and Antvir comes with the Guard to protect me from incoming viruses. So it seems that AntiVir is the better program. But I don't feel right tossing McAfee seeing that it does something totally different than AntiVirGuard.... Do yuo guys get what I'm trying to say about this. AntVir is separate from, AntiVir guard. Antivir does exactly what McAfee does I guess (but AntiVir found more trojans and was 10x faster). The guard is the thing running in the background not the actual scanner. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 7:05 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) Those questions have already been answered twice by me, and once by Otter, for a total of three times. Sorry, I give up. Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 7:14 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) Good job helping me out than Carol...I really appreciate it. I aksed for help and you answer me with questions. Just TELL me what to do and I will do it. Don't beat around the bush. If you think I should say straight out "Chris delete spywareguard you DO NOT need it. Use only spywareblaster." That would be nice. That's what I am looking for, straight out answers. Tell me what to do, you guys are the computer experts here not me. That's why I come here, for help. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 7:28 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) You're really annoying, Chris. You're lucky, if you don't get flamed on this forum, the way you're doing. I didn't answer your questions with questions. You asked for help, but you don't want to accept the answers you got, that's all there is to it. As for, do you need both SB and SG.... It's up to you, whether you want to use both SB and SG, or not. We can't make your decisions for you. Posted by Carol: "Spyware Blaster doesnt' need to be running at all, so it's function isn't the same as SG." Posted by Carol: "Still, two AV's running providing real- time protection is a big no no! As Otter said, Spyware Blaster doesn't need to be running. The only time you need to start it is to check for updates and double check ocassionally to see that all protection is still enabled. Then Exit it. No minimize, just Exit." Posted by Carol: "No, to two AV's, and I've already answered your ? about SB and SG, basically." Posted by Otter: "SpywareBlaster does not need to run in the background. You should NEVER run two resident AV programs. Uninstall or disable either 1 or 9." Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 7:29 pm Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted) No. No, they do not. No. Have you disabled the real-time protection of McAfee? Then portions, at least, of it should not be running all the time. It is the "guard" that will conflict with McAfee, not the "scanner", because McAfee includes both a "guard" and a "scanner" as well. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 7:33 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) thx Otter ^^ I was just unsure because AntiVir was picking up stuff Mcafee wasn't. I'll do what I think it best. I think I'll get rid of Spyware Guard, it seems that it hasn't done anything for me ever. Carol......eh...don't bother me here anymore ok? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 7:47 pm Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted) First understand SpywareGuard's purpose--it is a real-time monitor of critical registry keys, such as the Run keys, or the WinLogon/Notify key. If a value is added, removed, or modified there, a window should appear alerting you of this fact. It can be quite useful to prevent a virus from ever getting a foothold that lasts beyond a reboot. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 7:53 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) Is it the same thing as spywareblaster than? What does that do? Should I use both or just one...I still don't get that. Also, I have McAfee Security Center. Is this enough to protect me from viruses? O yeah and Windows Firewall. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:02 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) nvm I realized I should have both. do I have to make spywareguard run on startup for it to work or does it come up on my tray automatically? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:03 pm Posted by Tom Swanson (5553 messages posted) Carol: Do you think we really need to know what the 'rest' are. They may well be spending more time fighting each other than working. ;o) On Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 5:54 pm, Carol J wrote: > >"I'm using SpywareGuard, SpywareBlaster, Mcafee, AntiVirGuard, Spybot, CWShredder, >and many more..." > >Many more? I hate to ask, but what are the others? > > > >color="9900FF">Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:04 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:05 pm Posted by Tom Swanson (5553 messages posted) Get rid of the majority of what you are running. I use McAfee AV and Firewall, Spybot S&D and AdAwareSE. Period. I have never had my system benetrated. Yes the bugs come in, but they are detected and eradicated before they ever get started. As Carol stated, ONLY run one AV program at a time. A good firewall is a must and stay off of the Kazaa type sites... On Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 5:02 pm, Chris wrote: >I'm using SpywareGuard, SpywareBlaster, Mcafee, AntiVirGuard, Spybot, CWShredder, >and many more Antvirguard, spywareblaster, mcafee and spywarwe guard are all running >on my computer constantly prtecting me from spyware. However it is taking up so >much memory! What should I do?! What don't I really need! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:09 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) SpywareGuard: must I make a schedule for it to open on system startup or will it do wat it do without me even touching it? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:12 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) What's Mcafee AV? I have Mcafee Securtiy Center. Is that good enough? On Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:05 pm, Tom Swanson wrote: >Get rid of the majority of what you are running. I use McAfee AV and Firewall, Spybot >S&D and AdAwareSE. Period. I have never had my system benetrated. Yes the bugs come >in, but they are detected and eradicated before they ever get started. > >As Carol stated, ONLY run one AV program at a time. >A good firewall is a must and stay off of the Kazaa type sites... > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:27 pm Posted by Tom Swanson (5553 messages posted) McAfee AV is part of the Security System as is the Firewall. I must be activated, like most of the Security System but once in place, no other AV or Firewall is needed and a second AV program will be counter productive. On Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:12 pm, Chris wrote: > >What's Mcafee AV? I have Mcafee Securtiy Center. Is that good enough? > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:35 pm Posted by joe (7018 messages posted) dude, your asking a question, given answers, and all answers are met with argument from you, why did you come here and ask a question if none of the options given are going to be given thought? assessment on this, asked and answered many, many times. the fact remains that no one here is afforded the opportunity by anyone to "tell" you what to do, rather give suggestion, suggestions given, what more do you want? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:43 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) Tom, I don't want to know, if there are more. It gives me a headache thinking about it. ha ha Users need to realize, there's more to being net smart (so to speak) than having prevention programs installed. Prevention doesn't make up for ignorance. If you don't know what's going on, you'll mess up and get yourself in trouble sooner or later. People need to educate themselves more, as you know. It's their responsiblity, and there are plenty of resources available on the net. Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 9:32 pm Posted by Ricer46 (22011 messages posted) "educate themselves..." hmmm, what a novel idea. ;) On Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 8:43 pm, Carol J wrote: > >Tom, I don't want to know, if there are more. It gives me a headache thinking about >it. ha ha > >Users need to realize, there's more to being net smart (so to speak) than having >prevention programs installed. Prevention doesn't make up for ignorance. If you don't >know what's going on, you'll mess up and get yourself in trouble sooner or later. >People need to educate themselves more, as you know. It's their responsiblity, >and there are plenty of resources available on the net. > > > > > > >color="9900FF">Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Monday, April 4, 2005 at 6:06 am Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted) Yes. Sometimes I wonder. It is quite obvious that the majority of people have no interest in doing so--else there would be no more email worms that spread by opening attachments. Oh well, it pays good money for me! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Monday, April 4, 2005 at 6:09 am Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted) By default, the SpywareGuard installer places a shortcut in All Programs->Startup. Simply leave it alone and you will be fine. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Monday, April 4, 2005 at 8:46 am Posted by MLS (2200 messages posted) Malware can be scary, but using a gazillion software apps to try and capture the stuff before it insinuates itself on your machine seems to me to be almost as scary (not to mention confusing and sometimes conflicting). Almost like "malware hypochondria". Merely for whatever it may be worth, I have found that the combination of Norton Internet Security with its FW and AV components, when coupled with Webroot's Spy Sweeper, seems to handle things just fine. BTW, I always check out a protection scheme by matching it against the best that warez, appz, serialz, etc. have to offer. The combination I am now using has met the challenge quite well. Lastly, two of the most effective apps for peace of mind are apps for backing up critical data on a real time basis, as well as a good app for backing up your drives. All I can say is that this works for me and has given me a large measure of peace of mind. On Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 5:02 pm, Chris wrote: >I'm using SpywareGuard, SpywareBlaster, Mcafee, AntiVirGuard, Spybot, CWShredder, >and many more Antvirguard, spywareblaster, mcafee and spywarwe guard are all running >on my computer constantly prtecting me from spyware. However it is taking up so >much memory! What should I do?! What don't I really need! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Monday, April 4, 2005 at 9:01 am Posted by werner (7087 messages posted) Spywareblaster and Spywareguard can run at the same time.Two AV Apps cant,they "BITE" each other.Get rid of the lesser one. lol W. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Monday, April 4, 2005 at 9:05 am Posted by borg (2664 messages posted) You should make an experiment to see what happens. Visit this page, disable (temporarily) both antiviruses, download and save the eicar.com file then re-enable antiviruses and open a explorer window in the folder containing eicar.com. All antiviruses should react to that file like it's a real virus, but it's just a harmless file used as a test. If your two av's are starting to block each other's access to the file and neither is capable to do anything about it, then you know why is so bad to have two on-access av's. Here is an excellent article about malware, you should read it. This should explain why some people can use their computers even without antivirus or antispyware apps and never get infected while others will catch malwares no matter how many up-to-date defenses they have. I have NAV (but I never used it to remove an active infection), Spybot and AdAware but these are just on-demand scanners and I never got any spyware. Why? Hint: if you see an advertising banner for some "free" program, don't touch it. Freeware makers don't have money for advertising. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Monday, April 4, 2005 at 12:08 pm Posted by Chris (78 messages posted) Sorry I seem "annoying" sometimes. I got flustered because I was asking things like what should I do because Mcafee and Antivirguard were not the same. No one told me execpt ottter that the guard and mcafee's guard (which I didn't know it had) would compete I guess. A lot of you just said two AV's are bad which I knew but no one told me why nor listened when I said that they arn't the same thing. Also can someone simply tell me this: Am I safe while using SpywareBlaster, Spyware Gaurd, McAfee Security Center, CWShredder, Adaware SE, Spbot and Windows Firewall? (now that I typed that out I think I am lol, thats a lot, I'm moslty concerned about viruses though more than spyware. That's why I got antivir. And when that app found some trojands I was worried that my AV wasn't good enough. Thus sparking the idea I had that getting rid of antivri was baaad.) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Monday, April 4, 2005 at 4:32 pm Posted by Tom Swanson (5553 messages posted) I wonder why no one has tried that before, great idea. On Sunday, April 3, 2005 at 9:32 pm, Ricer46 wrote: >"educate themselves..." >hmmm, what a novel idea. >;) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Memory Issue - Using too many antispyware apps Wednesday, April 6, 2005 at 7:49 am Posted by MLS (2200 messages posted) You should be safe if you update the programs frequently so that you are using the latest malware definitions. You are, however, paying a price in that so many programs running in the background eat up system resources. I thought about freeware for a while, but eventually gravitated to Norton. Not because I like to spend $$$, but because maintenance of updates to counter ever evolving malware is largely done automatically without my need to intervene. After adding Spy Sweeper about a year ago to my Norton AV/FW, I have not noted any problems with regard to malware. I find I am now spending more time using my computer, and much, much less time worrying about its vulnerability to a malware attack. BTW, I cannot overemphasize the benefits of a good backup approach. If malware ever gets by your security defenses, restoration of a backup image means that you are only minutes away from getting things back in order. I use Ghost, but other good apps abound. Additionally, I use an app called FolderClone that constantly saves the contents of selected files/folders (including Outlook) to a second drive I use just for backup purposes. Last week I messed up installing an app and my machine developed a terminal case of "wont-work-itis". Ghost had me back in 10 minutes, and FolderClone restored my data in just a couple of minutes. Recovery time? Less than fifteeen minutes. Before adopting my approach? About two days of sheer hell! One last thing, I do hide behind a router when surfing the net. On Monday, April 4, 2005 at 12:08 pm, Chris wrote: >Sorry I seem "annoying" sometimes. I got flustered because I was asking things like >what should I do because Mcafee and Antivirguard were not the same. No one told >me execpt ottter that the guard and mcafee's guard (which I didn't know it had) would >compete I guess. A lot of you just said two AV's are bad which I knew but no one >told me why nor listened when I said that they arn't the same thing. > >Also can someone simply tell me this: > >Am I safe while using SpywareBlaster, Spyware Gaurd, McAfee Security Center, CWShredder, >Adaware SE, Spbot and Windows Firewall? (now that I typed that out I think I am >lol, thats a lot, I'm moslty concerned about viruses though more than spyware. That's >why I got antivir. And when that app found some trojands I was worried that my AV >wasn't good enough. Thus sparking the idea I had that getting rid of antivri was >baaad.) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Ok but, How Many Anti-Spyware Apps??? Wednesday, September 20, 2006 at 2:12 am Posted by Brad (1 messages posted) I've got Norton Anti-Virus, STOPzilla , Spybot, Webroot Spysweeper, Ad-Aware, McAfee, Spyware Blaster and about:blank 2005 running in my status bar at all times. (I figure it'll freak out the adware so bad they'll never come back.) You didn't answer Chris's question. Are there some I don't need? Sorry. I couldn't resist :-) After reading through this thread (and chuckling) I think I'll go with Norton Anti-Virus, Webroot Spysweeper and Ad-Aware. On Monday, April 4, 2005 at 8:46 am, MLS wrote: >Malware can be scary, but using a gazillion software apps to try and capture the >stuff before it insinuates itself on your machine seems to me to be almost as scary >(not to mention confusing and sometimes conflicting). Almost like "malware hypochondria". > >Merely for whatever it may be worth, I have found that the combination of Norton >Internet Security with its FW and AV components, when coupled with Webroot's Spy >Sweeper, seems to handle things just fine. > >BTW, I always check out a protection scheme by matching it against the best that >warez, appz, serialz, etc. have to offer. The combination I am now using has met >the challenge quite well. > >Lastly, two of the most effective apps for peace of mind are apps for backing up >critical data on a real time basis, as well as a good app for backing up your drives. > > >All I can say is that this works for me and has given me a large measure of peace >of mind. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows XP Discussion Forum