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re: formating one or two partitions Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 4:14 am Posted by mojo7819 (5744 messages posted) You only need to format C:. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: formating one or two partitions Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 4:23 am Posted by borg (2664 messages posted) You only need to format C:, leave D: alone. Use D: to save whatever files you need from C: like documents, mail store, address book etc. On Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 3:41 am, Bharat Bhatnagar wrote: >my hard disk has two partitions, namely C and D. the operating system is loaded on >C. i want to reinstall the OS on C after formating the hard drive. > >is it necessary to format both C and D in order to reinstall the OS on C, or formating >only C would suffice? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting one or two partitions. Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 4:55 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) EMERGENCY BOOT DISK FREEWARE Hello Bharat, It would help a lot to know how big the drive is (total size) and how big the partitions are, plus if you want to format to NTFS. Formatting to NTFS is preferable. Which version of XP are you using, Home or Professional? What other system specifications can you provide, and which programs are you using? Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] XP Operating System Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 5:14 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) EMERGENCY BOOT DISK FREEWARE Maybe these links will be of use to you: TERABYTE Hijack This Analysis Hijack This Detective OEM CDR NLITE CCLeaner File Cleaner XP Clean Installing XP Compatability Test XP Partition Management XP Installing Recovery Console RAM Knowledge Base RAM And What it Does RAM Virtual Memory Paging RAM Reseating & Fitting PDF File Processor Temperatures Service Pack Slipstreamer Power Supply Wattage Calculator Everest Home Edition Computer Diagnostic Program NTFS Performance & Preventative Drive Maintenance Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] Formatting to NTFS is preferable????? Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 6:55 pm Posted by Ricer46 (22031 messages posted) Speak for yourself, that's a minority opinion here. FAT32 is far less troublesome for less experienced computer users. On Saturday, April 9, 2005 at 4:55 am, Mac wrote: >EMERGENCY BOOT DISK >href="http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?cat=019">FREEWARE >Hello Bharat, It would help a lot to know how big the drive is (total size) and how >big the partitions are, plus if you want to format to NTFS. Formatting to NTFS is >preferable. > >Which version of XP are you using, Home or Professional? > >What other system specifications can you provide, and which programs are you using? > Mac > >WINDOWS SUPPORT >HREF="http://www.crucial.com">RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting to NTFS is preferable????? Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 5:10 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) XP Operating System If they don't use NTFS they will never get the experience. NTFS is necessary for XP Professional and is recommended for drives or partitions over 32Gb. NTFS outperforms FAT32 on larger drives and has less drive overhead. Large drives formatted to FAT32 will have very large FAT tables. With a drive image of the operating system drive, there is no difficulty using NTFS. Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting to NTFS is preferable????? Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 1:49 pm Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted) "NTFS is necessary for XP Professional" No, it is not I HAVE XP Professional and I use/recommend FAT32. There is no reason for your system drive to be over 20 GB, and thus no reason to use NTFS on it. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting to NTFS is preferable????? Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 1:52 pm Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted) P.S. In every instance I've seen, the MFT+Transaction Log exceeds the FAT size, regardless the partition size. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting to NTFS is preferable. Monday, April 11, 2005 at 12:23 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) XP Operating System "NTFS is necessary for XP Professional" No, it is not I have XP Professional and I use/recommend FAT32. "There is no reason for your system drive to be over 20 GB, and thus no reason to use NTFS on it." Unless you bought XP Professional for the security which it affords the user. http://netsecurity.about.com/od/securingwindowsxp/qt/aa071804.htm Windows XP will not format drives, or partitions, over 32Gb to anything other than the NTFS file system. Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting to NTFS is preferable. Saturday, May 21, 2005 at 5:25 am Posted by Simon Cross (8 messages posted) In my experience, Windows XP Home will not format drives in NTFS at all. Use FAT32. If you have a big HDD, separate it into partitions. It saved a lot of heartache. On Monday, April 11, 2005 at 12:23 am, Mac wrote: >XP Operating System >"NTFS is necessary for XP Professional" > >No, it is not I have XP Professional and I use/recommend FAT32. > >"There is no reason for your system drive to be over 20 GB, and thus no reason to >use NTFS on it." > >Unless you bought XP Professional for the security which it affords the user. > >http://netsecurity.about.com/od/securingwindowsxp/qt/aa071804.htm > >Windows XP will not format drives, or partitions, over 32Gb to anything other than >the NTFS file system. > > > Mac > >WINDOWS SUPPORT   >HREF="http://www.crucial.com">RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting to NTFS is preferable. Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 5:49 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) XP OPERATING SYSTEM Both XP Home and XP Professional are based on the NT system. Therefore both can be formatted to NTFS, or FAT32 if you prefer. Neither will format drives over 32 Gb to FAT32. It is preferable NOT to use fdisk when setting up XP. Just use the XP CD instead with diskpart. You can also use the Recovery Console loaded from the CD to use Diskpart and the command: >format c: /fs:ntfs Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Formatting to NTFS is preferable????? Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 7:11 am Posted by Ricer46 (22031 messages posted) "If they don't use NTFS they will never get the experience." That's an absurd reason. An OS should be transparent to the user. The user should not have to become an OS expert; that has been a major flaw of every M$ operating system ever released. An easy observation when I managed 500 PCs and 60 Macs was that almost no one knew anything about their operating systems, but the Mac users all knew how to get a lot more out of their systems than virtually all of the PC users. It was easy to see how much time the PC users lost because they did not know how to maintain their file systems, because it was too darn complex (for them). Well NTFS takes that up another notch. Easily 20% of the problems posted on this site are directly traceable to the fact that the user does not understand how to deal with NTFS. Your contention that fdisk should not be used for partitioning is equally ridiculous. True, it's not as slick as using XP's GUI, but it's the only way that M$ will allow us to get there with disks greater 32GB. They placed this arbitrary limitation on users for the same reason that they have crammed NTFS down their users' throats. They always think they know what is best for their users, when history demonstrates that they almost never do. FAT32 is the best choice for nearly all home users. The only exception that I can think of is for those that need to make files that are greater 4GB. I have one NTFS partition for that purpose, and it is by far the biggest pain in the neck to deal with. I know that I could solve some of these issues by wasting my time learning a little bit about NTFS permissions. But at my age, I don't particularly want to waste my time just for the sake of learning how it works. Like most users, I just want to use my computer. I really never wanted to spend a huge excessive amount of time becoming proficient at the OS. But having chosen to use XP, I was forced into that. I will continue to set up machines with FAT32, and I will continue to point out the huge benefit that FAT32 has over NTFS - EASE OF USE. The benefits of NTFS that you speak of are largely imaginary. On Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 5:10 am, Mac wrote: >XP Operating System >If they don't use NTFS they will never get the experience. NTFS is necessary for >XP Professional and is recommended for drives or partitions over 32Gb. > >NTFS outperforms FAT32 on larger drives and has less drive overhead. > >Large drives formatted to FAT32 will have very large FAT tables. > >With a drive image of the operating system drive, there is no difficulty using NTFS. > Mac > >WINDOWS SUPPORT >HREF="http://www.crucial.com">RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: XP Operating System. Sunday, July 24, 2005 at 1:03 pm Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) XP OPERATING SYSTEM EMERGENCY BOOT DISK FREEWARE Maybe these links will be of use to you: TERABYTE Hijack This Analysis Hijack This Detective OEM CDR NLITE CCLeaner File Cleaner XP Clean Installing XP Compatability Test XP Partition Management XP Installing Recovery Console RAM Knowledge Base RAM And What it Does RAM Virtual Memory Paging RAM Reseating & Fitting PDF File Processor Temperatures Service Pack Slipstreamer Power Supply Wattage Calculator Everest Home Edition Computer Diagnostic Program NTFS Performance & Preventative Drive Maintenance Mac WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: formating one or two partitions Sunday, July 24, 2005 at 4:23 pm Posted by Rich Kurtz (12246 messages posted) Falcon's virus/malware cleanup routine I would not use anything but NTFS. It's never given me a problem and seems to be much less suceptible to damage do to improper shutdowns. They don't happen often but they do occur. I think my preference (bias?) comes from my OS/2 HPFS background which is the base NTFS is built on. The only time I've used FAT32 was when I was multi-booting OS/2, XP and Linux and I set up one FAT32 partition to share data on. I think this is one of those politics and religion things :-) Repair install WinXP Clean install WinXP [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: formating one or two partitions Sunday, July 31, 2005 at 8:21 pm Posted by wcleve1 (1 messages posted) The issue with NTFS has less to do with formatting than with security. NTFS allows security down to the file level whereas FAT32 only allows to share level. In a networked environment this is important. In the average home with a single PC this is less important but additional security is rarely a bad thing to have when connected to the internet, for example. As for partitioning, for me the solution is simple and certainly not worth lowering the discussion into another dreary MS bashing session. Make a Windows 98 or DOS 6.22 boot diskette then use it to boot a machine to the command line and partition and format a drive using either FAT or FAT32 as desired. Then reboot and go about your business. One advantage of a FAT32 partition is that it is accessible from a floppy whereas NTFS is not. Well, it is but let's face it, it's a nosebleed. Install an imaging or partioning app on the FAT32 partition and you can do pretty much all the important tasks using a floppy to boot and access files. If you want the additional security features of NTFS, essentially a requirement in a networked environment, then use Windows to format a drive using NTFS. This just isn't as complicated as some of you are making it out to be. It's mostly a matter of choice. Despite what MS bashers claim, no one is being forced to use any particular form of OS. If they were, there would be no choice - which is what I sometimes think Macaholics and Linux zealots want. But there is a choice of several OS's out there along with the features/benefits that each may offer. Another thought... consider that the average user, that is, the person who goes down to the big box electronics store and buys whatever's on the shelf or buys from mail order outfits like Dell and Gateway, could care less about the partitioning scheme on their machine. All they want is to be able to fire up the machine and have it work the way they want it to. It would seem that as good as Apple is at making it seem that Macs can do things that are unique to the Mac (which they aren't) you can't ignore that nearly 88% of computers out there are running Windows. Either there are millions upon millions of stupid people buying PCs who should be buying Macs - a pretty imperious and self important perspective - or PCs running Windows aren't really as troublesome as some bashers make them out to be. WCleve [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: formating one or two partitions Monday, August 1, 2005 at 9:48 am Posted by Samuel (34 messages posted) I have no real problems either. I have winXP and all my win programs installed on a large NTFS partition. I have a second partition with system recovery data, two partitions for Libranet Linux (one reiserFS and one swap), and a FAT32 shared partition for datafiles (so I can access it from both OSes). I've had no problems that I can trace to NTFS. I have had some network sharing problems, but I think that's just winXP being a pain. On Sunday, July 31, 2005 at 8:21 pm, wcleve1 wrote: >The issue with NTFS has less to do with formatting than with security. NTFS allows >security down to the file level whereas FAT32 only allows to share level. In a networked >environment this is important. In the average home with a single PC this is less >important but additional security is rarely a bad thing to have when connected to >the internet, for example. > >As for partitioning, for me the solution is simple and certainly not worth lowering >the discussion into another dreary MS bashing session. Make a Windows 98 or DOS 6.22 >boot diskette then use it to boot a machine to the command line and partition and >format a drive using either FAT or FAT32 as desired. Then reboot and go about your >business. One advantage of a FAT32 partition is that it is accessible from a floppy >whereas NTFS is not. Well, it is but let's face it, it's a nosebleed. Install an >imaging or partioning app on the FAT32 partition and you can do pretty much all the >important tasks using a floppy to boot and access files. > >If you want the additional security features of NTFS, essentially a requirement in >a networked environment, then use Windows to format a drive using NTFS. This just >isn't as complicated as some of you are making it out to be. It's mostly a matter >of choice. > >Despite what MS bashers claim, no one is being forced to use any particular form >of OS. If they were, there would be no choice - which is what I sometimes think Macaholics >and Linux zealots want. But there is a choice of several OS's out there along with >the features/benefits that each may offer. > >Another thought... consider that the average user, that is, the person who goes down >to the big box electronics store and buys whatever's on the shelf or buys from mail >order outfits like Dell and Gateway, could care less about the partitioning scheme >on their machine. All they want is to be able to fire up the machine and have it >work the way they want it to. > >It would seem that as good as Apple is at making it seem that Macs can do things >that are unique to the Mac (which they aren't) you can't ignore that nearly 88% of >computers out there are running Windows. Either there are millions upon millions >of stupid people buying PCs who should be buying Macs - a pretty imperious and self >important perspective - or PCs running Windows aren't really as troublesome as some >bashers make them out to be. > >WCleve [Reply or follow-up to this message] XP Info Monday, October 24, 2005 at 10:18 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) XP INFO  XP CLEANUP Maybe these links will be of use to you: TERABYTE Hijack This Analysis Hijack This Detective OEM CDR XP Clean Installing XP Compatability Test XP Partition Management XP Installing Recovery Console RAM Knowledge Base RAM And What it Does RAM Virtual Memory Paging RAM Reseating & Fitting PDF File Processor Temperatures Service Pack Slipstreamer Power Supply Wattage Calculator Everest Home Edition Computer Diagnostic Program What I Do And Use On My Computer WINDOWS SUPPORT  RAM Mac TIME IS DIVISIBLE BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO SHARE IT WITH ('NEW' RELATIVITY) [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows XP Discussion Forum