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Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

I am having lots of trouble installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition. I had similar 
problems putting this OS on another machine, but finally got a good install and it 
is now running well.

The second system I am trying to put this on has an AMD 3000+ 64-bit Socket 939 processor 
(Venice core), on a Chaintech S1689 motherboard, with a pair of Kingston 512MB RAM 
184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) unbuffered dual channel memory modules for 1GB 
total RAM, with a Chaintech SA5500T2 Geforce FX5500 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X video card.

I have tried several installs, and here are some of the error messages I get:

"A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to 
your computer.
The problem seems to be caused by the following file: setupdd.sys
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA"

Then, toward the bottom of the screen it says:

"STOP: 0x00000050 (0xF8000000, 0x00000000, 0xF77D03F7, ox00000000)
 setupdd.sys – Address F77D03F7 base at F7794000, Date Stamp 41107c8f"

Also, when setup is loading files, several of them come up with:

"Setup cannot copy the file: rio8drv.sys" etc., etc.




On this last attempt to load MCE there were at least 20, maybe 30 files that came up with that message, and I had to use the ESC key to get by them (after retrying by hitting the ENTER key several times to no avail) I have used two separate sets of original, legitimate CDs and I'm just getting lots of problems. I've got several other sets of error messages that I have copied, if they might mean anything to you. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Gary Beeman

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Ricer46 (23825 messages posted)

Is this a newly assembled home built system?






On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 2:51 pm, Gary Beeman wrote:
>I am having lots of trouble installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition. I had similar
>problems putting this OS on another machine, but finally got a good install and it
>is now running well.
>
>The second system I am trying to put this on has an AMD 3000+ 64-bit Socket 939 processor
>(Venice core), on a Chaintech S1689 motherboard, with a pair of Kingston 512MB RAM
>184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) unbuffered dual channel memory modules for 1GB
>total RAM, with a Chaintech SA5500T2 Geforce FX5500 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X video card.
>
>I have tried several installs, and here are some of the error messages I get:
>
>"A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to
>your computer.
>The problem seems to be caused by the following file: setupdd.sys
>PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA"
>
>Then, toward the bottom of the screen it says:
>
>"STOP: 0x00000050 (0xF8000000, 0x00000000, 0xF77D03F7, ox00000000)
> setupdd.sys – Address F77D03F7 base at F7794000, Date Stamp 41107c8f"
>
>Also, when setup is loading files, several of them come up with:
>
>"Setup cannot copy the file: rio8drv.sys" etc., etc.
>

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

Yes it is. Well, shop, office, home--all the same in this case.






On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:07 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>Is this a newly assembled home built system?
>
>
>

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Ricer46 (23825 messages posted)

I would estimate that there is about a 5% chance (maybe a bit higher) that one component 
is bad. At least that's been my experience, and I have built a bunch of them. If 
you don't have a lot of duplicate parts hanging around, those situations can be very 
tough to troubleshoot.






On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:10 pm, Gary Beeman wrote:
>Yes it is. Well, shop, office, home--all the same in this case.
>
>
>

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

That's what I'm beginning to worry about. On the first machine, after trying several 
times and then finally getting the OS in, whenever I tried to go into the Media Center, 
I would get an error message saying that the video card was not compatible with this 
OS. It was a little ASUS 64MB DDR card, and the OS was still running but shaky. Once 
I put a decent video card in, everything ran beautifully.

I'm thinking maybe the hard drive, but how to tell w/o having to exchange it?






On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:20 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>I would estimate that there is about a 5% chance (maybe a bit higher) that one component
>is bad. At least that's been my experience, and I have built a bunch of them. If
>you don't have a lot of duplicate parts hanging around, those situations can be very
>tough to troubleshoot.
>
>
>

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Ricer46 (23825 messages posted)

That's really tough. When AMD first came out with their Athalon 1000, my son bought 
one. We got a bad motherboard to go along with it. I ended up upgrading my K6, because 
the only way that I could be 100% certain that it was indeed a bad motherboard, was 
to buy a second one.

I currently have two Athalon 64's that are nearly identical, guess why?






On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:31 pm, Gary Beeman wrote:
>That's what I'm beginning to worry about. On the first machine, after trying several
>times and then finally getting the OS in, whenever I tried to go into the Media Center,
>I would get an error message saying that the video card was not compatible with this
>OS. It was a little ASUS 64MB DDR card, and the OS was still running but shaky. Once
>I put a decent video card in, everything ran beautifully.
>
>I'm thinking maybe the hard drive, but how to tell w/o having to exchange it?
>
>
>

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

Yes, after removing the memory from the second bank, everything loaded just fine. 
How do I tell now if it's the memory or the motherboard?

Plus, I've got a new problem. I put in a user name with no password, but now I can't 
get in without one. Hitting ESC does nothing at all, and hitting Enter brings up 
the balloon that says this: "The specified domain either does not exist or could 
not be contacted."







On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:20 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>I would estimate that there is about a 5% chance (maybe a bit higher) that one component
>is bad. At least that's been my experience, and I have built a bunch of them. If
>you don't have a lot of duplicate parts hanging around, those situations can be very
>tough to troubleshoot.
>
>
>

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Rich Kurtz (12246 messages posted)

To see if it's memory,  remove the working good one, put in the one you think is 
bad. If it fails then it's memory (most likely), otherwise it's the motherboard (unlikely)

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted)

http://memtest86.com/... Plug them both back in and use that.

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  1. Disable System Restore *
  2. Perform an online virus scan * * * * .
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  5. To protect against reinfection, download and use these:
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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

I cannot get to the desktop, because the system wants me to log in with a username 
and password. I had put the username in at the end of the installation, but did not 
set up a password for it. Now I can't get in.

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted)

It is a bootable CD. You don;t need to be able to reach Windows to use, as long as you have another computer with a CD burner.

My Malware Removal Instructions


Perform the following:

  1. Disable System Restore *
  2. Perform an online virus scan * * * * .
  3. Download, update, and run these tools: Repeat as necessary until clean.
  4. If you still experience problems after doing these steps, download HijackThis * and post a log to this forum.
  5. To protect against reinfection, download and use these:
    If at all possible, I recommend that you use alternative software, particularly web browsers and email clients: If this is not a viable option, or for additional protection, use these:
  6. Optionally Reenable System Restore * . Better alternatives to System Restore.

If you encounter any broken links, please inform me of them. Also note that these links direct through my web server to allow me to keep them up-to-date or post additional info. If you are unable to use the links above, click the stars instead, which are a direct link to the page in question.


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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)


Ok. Thank you. I will try that. But even if and when I find out whether one or both 
memory modules are bad, I still cannot get to the desktop. Am I going to have to 
do a new install now? I don't know why a password is now required to log in.

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Rich Kurtz (12246 messages posted)

Have you tried logging in as Admin? Default for XP Home/Pro was no passsword. Try 
that, see if it works. If yes, then you can go into user management and turn off 
the "User must enter a username and password to use this computer"  (Start / Run 
/ control userpasswords2).

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

The only option on the main screen is "Duane." No admin, no option to shut down. 
If I do Ctr-Alt-Del twice, I get to Administrator login window but does not let me 
go past that without a password. Leaving it blank doesn't work.

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Dan Sarandrea, MCSE (7132 messages posted)

If you had so much trouble getting XP to install, then there's no way you can consider 
the current installation the "final."

Once you track down the solutions to the problems you encountered, then you test 
how well the system is running by how smoothly a normal installation goes.  After 
about the third uneventful installation in a row, you might then think about running 
with that one.

You mentioned you thought the HDD could be one of the culprits.  It's easy to go 
to the HDD's manufacturer's website and download the diagnostic utility that will 
test the disk.

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 9:30 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

I thank you for that information. I thought an uneventful installation was a good 
one, the final one. Isn't there a set number of times that I can install from the 
same disk or set of disks?

I will go back tomorrow and do the mem testing, then post back here. Thank you again 
for your help.

Gary

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Wednesday, July 13, 2005 at 5:01 am
Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted)

There is no install limit, and as long as no hardware changes, I don't think there's any activation limit either. (?) Note that the memory tester will run forever, so just let it do 3 passes or so overnight and that should be sufficient.

My Malware Removal Instructions


Perform the following:

  1. Disable System Restore *
  2. Perform an online virus scan * * * * .
  3. Download, update, and run these tools: Repeat as necessary until clean.
  4. If you still experience problems after doing these steps, download HijackThis * and post a log to this forum.
  5. To protect against reinfection, download and use these:
    If at all possible, I recommend that you use alternative software, particularly web browsers and email clients: If this is not a viable option, or for additional protection, use these:
  6. Optionally Reenable System Restore * . Better alternatives to System Restore.

If you encounter any broken links, please inform me of them. Also note that these links direct through my web server to allow me to keep them up-to-date or post additional info. If you are unable to use the links above, click the stars instead, which are a direct link to the page in question.


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re: RAM Considerations and Suggestions
Wednesday, July 13, 2005 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

Thank you once again Falcon.

Since I likely will have to replace this memory, could you suggest what you would 
think might be best, yet economical (I know, they don't often go together, but economics 
plays a big role here)? Would ECC, registered, or unbuffered make any significant 
differences? Would going to 2 Gigs (2 x 1Gig) be a big plus over 1 Gig dual channel 
(2 x 512)? There's not going to be a lot of digital stuff or gaming on this system. 
Lots of music though, and using the media center enhancements of MCE for home system 
components.

Thanks for your advice too

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re: RAM Considerations and Suggestions
Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 5:14 am
Posted by Falcon (13489 messages posted)

I don't know--I'm not much of a hardware guru...

My Malware Removal Instructions


Perform the following:

  1. Disable System Restore *
  2. Perform an online virus scan * * * * .
  3. Download, update, and run these tools: Repeat as necessary until clean.
  4. If you still experience problems after doing these steps, download HijackThis * and post a log to this forum.
  5. To protect against reinfection, download and use these:
    If at all possible, I recommend that you use alternative software, particularly web browsers and email clients: If this is not a viable option, or for additional protection, use these:
  6. Optionally Reenable System Restore * . Better alternatives to System Restore.

If you encounter any broken links, please inform me of them. Also note that these links direct through my web server to allow me to keep them up-to-date or post additional info. If you are unable to use the links above, click the stars instead, which are a direct link to the page in question.


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re: RAM Considerations and Suggestions
Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 8:34 am
Posted by Paulina (3264 messages posted)



Go with the most and what you can afford. You'll find a lot of hype about types and brands of memory but very few can point out or even notice the nanoseconds difference in performance especially if you're not using any memory intensive applications. http://www.crucial.com/uk/index.asp


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re: RAM Considerations and Suggestions
Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

Thank you all for your replies and help. I appreciate this very much!

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re: Problems Installing WindowsXP Media Center Edition
Friday, July 22, 2005 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Gary Beeman (31 messages posted)

I tested the memory with the second bank empty, and all of the tests ran successfully. I put the second module back in, and began getting errors very quickly. I then switched, and put the second module in the first bank, and it ran fine. So then I was thinking motherboard. I had bought some new Kingston RAM (Hyperx) and put both of those 512MB modules in, and they tested fine. When I out the first two back in, problems again, but whenever I ran either by itself, they tested fine. So both of the first modules run fine by themselves, and I've just added one of them to my personal system and am having no problems. It is becausse of the dual channel on the XP MCE system motherboard? Does dual channel require higher specs or closer timing or whatever? Thanks for the help again. All seems good now, except for the issue I have about why they won't run together on a dual channel motherboard.


On Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 6:00 pm, Falcon wrote:
>http://memtest86.com/... Plug them both back
>in and use that.

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activation problems with windowxp media center edition 2005
Monday, October 15, 2007 at 9:37 am
Posted by HEATHER (1 messages posted)

I ran disk clean up and it said that some of the files for windows were replaced or deleted and so i reinstalled windowsxp media center 2005 now at the log in it promptf you that this copy of windows must be activated and asks if you want to activated now then i click yes and it drops you back to log in then asks the same question again and does the same thing when you click no

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