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Question about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?'
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Question about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?'
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 4:55 pm Posted by Jimbo
(1 messages posted)
Concernig How
do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?:
HOLD ON!
Unfortunately, DOS is not dead. In order to boot into DOS from XP/2000, your best
bet is to create a MS-DOS startup disk in Windows XP (Windows 2000 does not have
this capability). Insert any 3 1/2" floppy, right-click the A:\ drive in Windows
Explorer, and choose "Format...". Make sure you check the "Create an MS-DOS startup
disk" checkbox, then press the "Start" button. This will create a bootable floppy
for XP or 2000.
As long as your BIOS has the 3 1/2" Floppy set as one of the boot drives (preferably
the first), you can use the Startup disk to BOOTUP INTO MS-DOS REGARDLESS OF YOUR
O/S.
This is quite NECESSARY for FLASHing your BIOS, since you cannot have any OS processes
running in the background.
Yes DOS and Microsoft suck, but hats off for thinking ahead...
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re: Question about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?'
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 5:46 pm Posted by Wildcat
(1314 messages posted)
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more about spyware
DOS Box is better than booting into MSDOS,
and it is avaiable for Win2k/XP and Linux.
Microsoft Knowledge
Base Search | Lavalys Everest (not Mt. Everest)
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re: Question about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?'
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 6:36 pm Posted by Adam Bradley
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You're missing the point of the article, did you even read anything but the title?
That disk boots the computer into an MS-DOS OS bypassing the hard drive and installed
OS completely
you can't boot from a floppy then use a command to start 2000/XP, that was the point
of the article
you could under the MS-DOS based versions of windows because they had MS-DOS underneath
them
2000/XPhave no MS-DOS, they have a command prompt but it isn't MS-DOS only a emulation
of it
this topic has been discussed numerous time here
regards, Adam Bradley
On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 4:55 pm, Jimbo wrote:
>Concernig How
>do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?:
>
>HOLD ON!
>
>Unfortunately, DOS is not dead. In order to boot into DOS from XP/2000, your best
>bet is to create a MS-DOS startup disk in Windows XP (Windows 2000 does not have
>this capability). Insert any 3 1/2" floppy, right-click the A:\ drive in Windows
>Explorer, and choose "Format...". Make sure you check the "Create an MS-DOS startup
>disk" checkbox, then press the "Start" button. This will create a bootable floppy
>for XP or 2000.
>
>As long as your BIOS has the 3 1/2" Floppy set as one of the boot drives (preferably
>the first), you can use the Startup disk to BOOTUP INTO MS-DOS REGARDLESS OF YOUR
>O/S.
>
>This is quite NECESSARY for FLASHing your BIOS, since you cannot have any OS processes
>running in the background.
>
>Yes DOS and Microsoft suck, but hats off for thinking ahead...
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re: Question about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?'
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 7:04 pm Posted by Wildcat
(1314 messages posted)
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In fact...
* Windows 95/98/ME (4.x) = MS-DOS 7.0 + Windows 4.x + Win32 & WDM *
Windows NT 3.x, 4.0, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista = Windows NT Kernel + Windows NT GUI components
Microsoft Knowledge
Base Search | Lavalys, the authors of Everest
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re: Question about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?'
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 7:12 pm Posted by Adam Bradley
(8787 messages posted)
Yet strangely enough win.com still exists in XP system folder, doesn't do anything
if you run it though
And you forget 3.X (IMO still the most stable OS M$ made) it makes a wonderful typewriter
and plays games too
If you ever start missing 3.11 type progman.exe into start>run (hope you know your
KB shortcuts, no right-click here)
Regards, Adam Bradley
On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 7:04 pm, The White Cat wrote:
>Learn
>more about spyware
>In fact...
* Windows 95/98/ME (4.x) = MS-DOS 7.0 + Windows 4.x + Win32 &
WDM *
>Windows NT 3.x, 4.0, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista = Windows NT Kernel + Windows NT GUI
components
>
Microsoft Knowledge
>Base Search | Lavalys, the authors of Everest
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re: Win3.x
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 7:41 pm Posted by Wildcat
(1314 messages posted)
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For some reason, WinXP's Progman.exe no longer works since I installed SP2...
He,
he. But I'm running Windows 3.0 inside a DOS game emulator (DOSBox) in Suse Linux,
and Win3.11fw inside the same emulator in WinXP, and I also have a Virtual PC 2004
virtual machine with MSDOS 6.22 - Windows 3.11 for Workgroups! I like to look at
Win3.11-style applications... nice. I have a Windows NT 3.1 virtual machine, a Win3.11
virtual machine and a Win98 virtual machine (and a Win98 real machine, too). I'm
an OS collectionist!
Microsoft Knowledge
Base Search | Lavalys, the authors of Everest
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re: Win3.x
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 8:04 pm Posted by Adam Bradley
(8787 messages posted)
That’s right, I forgot SP2 kills progman.exe by design (why is a mystery), it was
discussed awhile back
Works 3 runs on XP SP0, but I'm not sure if SP2 kills it as well
I've 3.11, MS-DOS, 98SE, 2000, XP, server 2K3 and Linux running under VPC, it makes
for a good test lab
And it is fun to play with the older OSs, and to try finding all those settings that
have moved over the different versions
BTW have you gotten 3.11 to see the sound card? Or get MS-DOS to run TCP/IP?
I've got the NIC and the vid card (killed several installs finding the right vid
card), if you need either just ask
but have yet to get the sound card working, and the TCP/IP drivers I've found work
only under windows
regards, Adam Bradley
On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 7:41 pm, The White Cat wrote:
>Learn
>more about spyware
>For some reason, WinXP's Progman.exe no longer works since I installed SP2...
He,
>he. But I'm running Windows 3.0 inside a DOS game emulator (DOSBox) in Suse Linux,
>and Win3.11fw inside the same emulator in WinXP, and I also have a Virtual PC 2004
>virtual machine with MSDOS 6.22 - Windows 3.11 for Workgroups! I like to look at
>Win3.11-style applications... nice. I have a Windows NT 3.1 virtual machine, a Win3.11
>virtual machine and a Win98 virtual machine (and a Win98 real machine, too). I'm
>an OS collectionist!
>
Microsoft Knowledge
>Base Search | Lavalys, the authors of Everest
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re: Win3.x
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 8:18 pm Posted by Adam Bradley
(8787 messages posted)
oops I read Windows 3.0 as Works 3.0 (in the first line second paragraph)
but the rest still applies, I think I'd better get some sleep now, LOL I'm starting
to hallucinate
regards, Adam Bradley
On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 7:41 pm, The White Cat wrote:
>Learn
>more about spyware
>For some reason, WinXP's Progman.exe no longer works since I installed SP2...
He,
>he. But I'm running Windows 3.0 inside a DOS game emulator (DOSBox) in Suse Linux,
>and Win3.11fw inside the same emulator in WinXP, and I also have a Virtual PC 2004
>virtual machine with MSDOS 6.22 - Windows 3.11 for Workgroups! I like to look at
>Win3.11-style applications... nice. I have a Windows NT 3.1 virtual machine, a Win3.11
>virtual machine and a Win98 virtual machine (and a Win98 real machine, too). I'm
>an OS collectionist!
>
Microsoft Knowledge
>Base Search | Lavalys, the authors of Everest
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re: Win3.x
Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 8:43 pm Posted by Wildcat
(1314 messages posted)
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more about spyware
MSDOS is not using TCP/IP. (I tried to setup VPC to "connect" Win98 virtual machine
with the VPC host using the MS loopback adapter [BTW, it exists since WinNT 3.1],
but it says that the host IP address is invalid) I got the soundcard in Windows 3.11
and WinNT 3.1 as a "Sound Blaster 1.5 sound card", and I'm using SVGA 800x600 16
colors in both. WinNT doesn't load the 256 driver when I select it, and Win3.11 cannot
start with the 256 colors SVGA 800x600 driver. Win98 works well (no BSODs), but it
can't see the host with the virtual network conection. The sound quality is better
in WinNT 3.1 (but it can't see the virtual IDE CDROM) than Win3.11 and Win98.
Microsoft Knowledge
Base Search | Lavalys, the authors of Everest
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re: Win3.x
Thursday, August 25, 2005 at 9:30 pm Posted by Adam Bradley
(8787 messages posted)
I've got my 3.11 running with the in 640X480 with 16M colors, background pics just
look really awful with anything else
Not sure which option that is on the list, I edited OEMSETUP.INF to dump the non-working
drivers and shorten the names of the others
I've never gotten 3.11 to see the CD drive, but I'm going to try getting sound on
it this weekend
Odd tat they can't see each other on the network, are the NICS pointing to the card,
local only or shared network (NAT)?
VPC can make some things very difficult, it really complicates networking IME
Regards, Adam Bradley
On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 8:43 pm, The White Cat wrote:
>Learn
>more about spyware
>MSDOS is not using TCP/IP. (I tried to setup VPC to "connect" Win98 virtual machine
>with the VPC host using the MS loopback adapter [BTW, it exists since WinNT 3.1],
>but it says that the host IP address is invalid) I got the soundcard in Windows
3.11
>and WinNT 3.1 as a "Sound Blaster 1.5 sound card", and I'm using SVGA 800x600 16
>colors in both. WinNT doesn't load the 256 driver when I select it, and Win3.11
cannot
>start with the 256 colors SVGA 800x600 driver. Win98 works well (no BSODs), but
it
>can't see the host with the virtual network conection. The sound quality is better
>in WinNT 3.1 (but it can't see the virtual IDE CDROM) than Win3.11 and Win98.
>
Microsoft Knowledge
>Base Search | Lavalys, the authors of Everest
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re: Question about 'How do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?'
Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 4:35 pm Posted by Bill D
(1 messages posted)
This is a dated question, but incase most don't know....a download containing the
drivers for XP home sp2 can be found on the Microsoft site. Once downloaded just
follow the instructions and completed will make 6 floppy disks.
On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 4:55 pm, Jimbo wrote:
>Concernig How
>do I boot into Windows XP or Windows 2000 with a floppy?:
>
>HOLD ON!
>
>Unfortunately, DOS is not dead. In order to boot into DOS from XP/2000, your best
>bet is to create a MS-DOS startup disk in Windows XP (Windows 2000 does not have
>this capability). Insert any 3 1/2" floppy, right-click the A:\ drive in Windows
>Explorer, and choose "Format...". Make sure you check the "Create an MS-DOS startup
>disk" checkbox, then press the "Start" button. This will create a bootable floppy
>for XP or 2000.
>
>As long as your BIOS has the 3 1/2" Floppy set as one of the boot drives (preferably
>the first), you can use the Startup disk to BOOTUP INTO MS-DOS REGARDLESS OF YOUR
>O/S.
>
>This is quite NECESSARY for FLASHing your BIOS, since you cannot have any OS processes
>running in the background.
>
>Yes DOS and Microsoft suck, but hats off for thinking ahead...
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6 floppy's from microsoft
Monday, August 28, 2006 at 5:07 pm Posted by Mike
(1 messages posted)
after loading the six floppy's, what next? my computer wont boot from them.
On Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 4:35 pm, Bill D wrote:
>This is a dated question, but incase most don't know....a download containing the
>drivers for XP home sp2 can be found on the Microsoft site. Once downloaded just
>follow the instructions and completed will make 6 floppy disks.
>
>
>
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