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absolutely no power.
Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 9:34 pm
Posted by vinny romano
(6 messages posted)
My pc started running slow the other day. It refused to start up the next day.
It kept rebooting half way through loading Win XP. Finally it stopped all together.
When I push the power button the light just falshes, then nothing.
Ive replaced the power supply and the motherboard. Ive tried to start it with nothing
plugged in, and tried it with just a few things plugged in. I tried a different
power switch too.
Anyone else able to cure this problem?
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re: absolutely no power.
Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Ricer46
(23825 messages posted)
Your approach to troubleshooting sounds very random and haphazrd. You must use a
very systematic approach.
On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 9:34 pm, vinny romano wrote:
>My pc started running slow the other day. It refused to start up the next day.
>It kept rebooting half way through loading Win XP. Finally it stopped all together.
> When I push the power button the light just falshes, then nothing.
>
>Ive replaced the power supply and the motherboard. Ive tried to start it with nothing
>plugged in, and tried it with just a few things plugged in. I tried a different
>power switch too.
>
>Anyone else able to cure this problem?
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re: absolutely no power.
Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 11:07 pm
Posted by John
(52 messages posted)
Windows XP will reboot again again when it encounters a problem. There are many problems
that cause this. If it is rebooting, you have power.
Did you do a virus scan and sypware scan?
Did you try using restore point? Did you try to launch windows in safe mode?
Did this problem occur after you replaced the motherboard and PS or before?
On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 9:34 pm, vinny romano wrote:
>My pc started running slow the other day. It refused to start up the next day.
>It kept rebooting half way through loading Win XP. Finally it stopped all together.
> When I push the power button the light just falshes, then nothing.
>
>Ive replaced the power supply and the motherboard. Ive tried to start it with nothing
>plugged in, and tried it with just a few things plugged in. I tried a different
>power switch too.
>
>Anyone else able to cure this problem?
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re: absolutely no power.
Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Mega
(476 messages posted)
Sure processor isn't bad?
On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 9:34 pm, vinny romano wrote:
>My pc started running slow the other day. It refused to start up the next day.
>It kept rebooting half way through loading Win XP. Finally it stopped all together.
> When I push the power button the light just falshes, then nothing.
>
>Ive replaced the power supply and the motherboard. Ive tried to start it with nothing
>plugged in, and tried it with just a few things plugged in. I tried a different
>power switch too.
>
>Anyone else able to cure this problem?
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re: absolutely no power.
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 6:59 am
Posted by danny
(72 messages posted)
if it is running slow first, maybe your disk (hd) is already running out of space.
and the rebooting thing, it must be the motherboard and you already replaced it as
you said,
try to check the cmos jumper of your new motherboard,
goodluck.
On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 9:34 pm, vinny romano wrote:
>My pc started running slow the other day. It refused to start up the next day.
>It kept rebooting half way through loading Win XP. Finally it stopped all together.
> When I push the power button the light just falshes, then nothing.
>
>Ive replaced the power supply and the motherboard. Ive tried to start it with nothing
>plugged in, and tried it with just a few things plugged in. I tried a different
>power switch too.
>
>Anyone else able to cure this problem?
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re: absolutely no power.
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 7:27 am
Posted by vinny romano
(6 messages posted)
So what do you suggest?
On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 10:13 pm, Ricer46 wrote:
>Your approach to troubleshooting sounds very random and haphazrd. You must use a
>very systematic approach.
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re: absolutely no power.
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 7:31 am
Posted by vinny romano
(6 messages posted)
It 'was' rebooting. Now when I push the power button the light flashes.... then
nothing.
On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 11:07 pm, John wrote:
>Windows XP will reboot again again when it encounters a problem. There are many
problems
>that cause this. If it is rebooting, you have power.
>
>Did you do a virus scan and sypware scan?
>
>Did you try using restore point? Did you try to launch windows in safe mode?
>
>Did this problem occur after you replaced the motherboard and PS or before?
>
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>
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re: absolutely no power.
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 7:32 am
Posted by vinny romano
(6 messages posted)
Testing a new processor is my next step. I'll probably try another hard drive first
just to make sure I've done everything else first.
On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 11:21 pm, Mega wrote:
>Sure processor isn't bad?
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From unable to boot to unable to even try that process
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 8:47 am
Posted by Kiwi
(2228 messages posted)
As noted, there are more ordinary diagnostics to perform prior to starting to assume
anything. Multiple reboots very well could have reflected something on the order
of a CMOS (Setup) glitch that would've been simple to fix; there are procedures to
follow to determine the cause of the system's symptoms.
You have offered very little information about those reboots, or why you started
swapping hardware around when you did so. Power supplies tend to be either all good,
or all bad, and seldom stay "in between", so why choose to change that?
Windows is very, VERY resistant to having the many bits of its hardware that are
represented by a motherboard, to be changed out, unless it is exactly the same make
and model board, and even then you can run into some complications. XP, with its
activation scheme for copy protection, is both more sensitive in many ways, and more
flexible about changes in other ways.
If you get the idea that there is pretty much no way that Annoyances' residents can
help you at this point, you are probably right about that. IMO, you have to start
over now with known-good parts, and hope you can salvage your data files.
.
Kiwi
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On Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 9:34 pm, vinny romano wrote:
>My pc started running slow the other day.
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re: absolutely no power.
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 1:10 pm
Posted by John
(52 messages posted)
Sounds like this is a bogus question. If you really swapped out those parts before
trying less drastic solutions, you machine is now worthless and unfixable.
On Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 7:32 am, vinny romano wrote:
>Testing a new processor is my next step. I'll probably try another hard drive first
>just to make sure I've done everything else first.
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re: From unable to boot to unable to even try that process
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 1:21 pm
Posted by vinny romano
(6 messages posted)
I did do all the diaganostics I was able to do before the pc died completely. Since
it crashed so fast the amount of diaganostics I was able to perform was minimal.
I was unable to access the bios settings or to start the pc in safe mode. From then
on.
If you're familiar with win XP, my pc did not continue past the point in which the
little bar was moving under the XP logo. My pc would continually restart itself
and never got past that point.
I chose to change the power supply because when I push the power button nothing happens,
as I mentioned in my first post. Also, on the advice of other pc users I know, it
was suggested.
Ive never had any problems changing hardware on this motherboard before so that's
not an issue.
As usual, forums rarely offer any real help. Rather, posts tend to critique the
poster until he/she just gives up and figure it out on their own.
If you have no real help to offer, please don't waste your time and mine. BTW I'm
trying a new HD next.
On Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 8:47 am, Kiwi wrote:
>As noted, there are more ordinary diagnostics to perform prior to starting to assume
>anything. Multiple reboots very well could have reflected something on the order
>of a CMOS (Setup) glitch that would've been simple to fix; there are procedures
to
>follow to determine the cause of the system's symptoms.
>
>You have offered very little information about those reboots, or why you started
>swapping hardware around when you did so. Power supplies tend to be either all
good,
>or all bad, and seldom stay "in between", so why choose to change that?
>
>Windows is very, VERY resistant to having the many bits of its hardware that are
>represented by a motherboard, to be changed out, unless it is exactly the same make
>and model board, and even then you can run into some complications. XP, with its
>activation scheme for copy protection, is both more sensitive in many ways, and
more
>flexible about changes in other ways.
>
>If you get the idea that there is pretty much no way that Annoyances' residents
can
>help you at this point, you are probably right about that. IMO, you have to start
>over now with known-good parts, and hope you can salvage your data files.
>
>
>
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>
>Kiwi
>
>**
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re: From unable to boot to unable to even try that process
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Falcon
(13489 messages posted)
"As usual, forums rarely offer any real help. Rather, posts tend to critique
the
poster until he/she just gives up and figure it out on their own." Myybe because
you post questions that can best be solved locally. Hardware problems are extremely
hard to troubleshoot from remote.
 Malware
Removal
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re: From unable to boot to unable to even try that process
Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 3:54 pm
Posted by vinny romano
(6 messages posted)
You're apparently right. I was just fishing for someone that may have had the same
problem and had already figured out what caused it.
Thanks to my friend, after I did some tests he suggested 'remotely' it appears to
be a dead processor.
I unplugged everything from the MB (also suggested by the MB maker) and still nothing.
'Everything' means: all the drives, cards and fans. Then I removed first one, one
then the other RAM chip. Then tried totally new RAM chips. NOTHING.
He asked if the processor fan tries to start up when I press the power button. It
doesnt. The case fans try to start but with only a split second power surge they
only spin to a stop.
I plugged the processor fan into a case fan power supply. Then it spun for a second
just like the other case fans. SO, our conclusion: processor. I'll post an update
once I try the new processor.
On Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 2:19 pm, Falcon wrote:
>"As usual, forums rarely offer any real help. Rather, posts tend to critique
>the
>poster until he/she just gives up and figure it out on their own." Myybe because
>you post questions that can best be solved locally. Hardware problems are extremely
>hard to troubleshoot from remote.
> Malware
>Removal
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