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Can you keep Autoplay for apps, but disable autorun.inf file?
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Can you keep Autoplay for apps, but disable autorun.inf file?
Tuesday, February 7, 2006 at 4:53 pm
Posted by JB
(2 messages posted)
Autorun works great for me, I run WMP to automatically rip MP3s from a CD and run
DVDShrink when I put in a DVD.
But, some CDs (like Velvet Revolver) try to install crap in the background when you
insert it.
So, I don't want to disable autoplay but want to prevent the autorun.inf file from
executing. How can you keep Windows XP from running any setup programs, but still
keep your autoplay actions?
The registry setting mentioned in the article turns off everything, and TweakUI and
the Autoplay options through My Computer don't let you do anything for "Data CD".
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re: Can you keep Autoplay for apps, but disable autorun.inf file?
Tuesday, February 7, 2006 at 9:42 pm
Posted by AnchorMan
(1463 messages posted)
You can't that I know of. Autoplay looks for autorun.inf which usually points to
an executable or bat file on the CD. Audio CDs are recognized as audio by the burn
format. Newer audio cd's are including video and the such, so you either love them
or hate them. What you are trying to do is actually an oxymoron. By changing one
the other is always affected.
Anchor Man
On Tuesday, February 7, 2006 at 4:53 pm, JB wrote:
>Autorun works great for me, I run WMP to automatically rip MP3s from a CD and run
>DVDShrink when I put in a DVD.
>
>But, some CDs (like Velvet Revolver) try to install crap in the background when
you
>insert it.
>
>So, I don't want to disable autoplay but want to prevent the autorun.inf file from
>executing. How can you keep Windows XP from running any setup programs, but still
>keep your autoplay actions?
>
>The registry setting mentioned in the article turns off everything, and TweakUI
and
>the Autoplay options through My Computer don't let you do anything for "Data CD".
>
>
>
>
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re: Can you keep Autoplay for apps, but disable autorun.inf file?
Wednesday, February 8, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Posted by jcw
(5092 messages posted)
Are these of any help to you?
for XP Pro:
--> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1091449929
for XP Home:
--> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1091652723
On Tuesday, February 7, 2006 at 4:53 pm, JB wrote:
>Autorun works great for me, I run WMP to automatically rip MP3s from a CD and run
>DVDShrink when I put in a DVD.
>
>But, some CDs (like Velvet Revolver) try to install crap in the background when
you
>insert it.
>
>So, I don't want to disable autoplay but want to prevent the autorun.inf file from
>executing. How can you keep Windows XP from running any setup programs, but still
>keep your autoplay actions?
>
>The registry setting mentioned in the article turns off everything, and TweakUI
and
>the Autoplay options through My Computer don't let you do anything for "Data CD".
>
>
>
>
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Summary of Autoplay capabilities and options
Wednesday, February 8, 2006 at 2:33 pm
Posted by JB
(2 messages posted)
I think you are right, Anchor Man. After a lot of research and experimentation,
I think the whole Windows Autoplay (aka Autorun) implementation is flawed at best
and there is no option that is secure yet does what it's was designed to do. Here's
what I think is a definitive summary of what the different Autoplay techniques do:
- Autorun= 0/1 registry setting: This prevents Windows from knowing that
the CD/DVD has been changed by the user. (e.g. suppresses the Media Change Notification
(MCN) internal message). This is not recommended because it will confuse apps like
Explorer and WMP.
- AutoRunAlwaysDisable=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This does essentially
the same thing as the "Autorun" setting above, but you can specifiy individual drives.
This is also not recommended.
- NoDriveTypeAutoRun=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This continues the Media
Change Notification (MCN) internal Windows message being sent to applications like
Explorer and WMP (if they are open), but the Autoplay actions you choose through
the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab won't work. This is also what TweakUI
and the Group Policy (gpedit.msc) techniques set.
In a perfect world, we'd use the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab to set all the Autoplay
options we want, including preventing EXEs from running automatically from a CD.
But, that's apparently not possible right now with the OS.
My recommendation is to keep your computer as secure as possible and prevent EXEs
from being automatically installed from the CD without your knowledge and consent.
So, turn off Autoplay using techinque #3 above and just manually start the application
you want, and manually run the setup programs from data CDs.
On Tuesday, February 7, 2006 at 9:42 pm, AnchorMan wrote:
>You can't that I know of. Autoplay looks for autorun.inf which usually points to
>an executable or bat file on the CD. Audio CDs are recognized as audio by the burn
>format. Newer audio cd's are including video and the such, so you either love them
>or hate them. What you are trying to do is actually an oxymoron. By changing one
>the other is always affected.
>
>
>
>Anchor Man
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re: Summary of Autoplay capabilities and options
Wednesday, February 8, 2006 at 8:13 pm
Posted by AnchorMan
(1463 messages posted)
Thanks for the summary... We can't always get what we want, but we can use Linux!
Sometimes you just gotta program it yourself....
Anchor Man
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006 at 2:33 pm, JB wrote:
>I think you are right, Anchor Man. After a lot of research and experimentation,
>I think the whole Windows Autoplay (aka Autorun) implementation is flawed at best
>and there is no option that is secure yet does what it's was designed to do. Here's
>what I think is a definitive summary of what the different Autoplay techniques do:
>
>- Autorun= 0/1 registry setting: This prevents Windows from knowing that
>the CD/DVD has been changed by the user. (e.g. suppresses the Media Change Notification
>(MCN) internal message). This is not recommended because it will confuse apps like
>Explorer and WMP.
>
>- AutoRunAlwaysDisable=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This does essentially
>the same thing as the "Autorun" setting above, but you can specifiy individual drives.
> This is also not recommended.
>
>- NoDriveTypeAutoRun=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This continues the Media
>Change Notification (MCN) internal Windows message being sent to applications like
>Explorer and WMP (if they are open), but the Autoplay actions you choose through
>the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab won't work. This is also what TweakUI
>and the Group Policy (gpedit.msc) techniques set.
>
>In a perfect world, we'd use the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab to set all the
Autoplay
>options we want, including preventing EXEs from running automatically from a CD.
> But, that's apparently not possible right now with the OS.
>
>My recommendation is to keep your computer as secure as possible and prevent EXEs
>from being automatically installed from the CD without your knowledge and consent.
> So, turn off Autoplay using techinque #3 above and just manually start the application
>you want, and manually run the setup programs from data CDs.
>
>
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Thanks, Anchor Man & JB
Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 9:29 pm
Posted by dv
(1 messages posted)
That is exactly what I was looking for. Too bad it doesn't exist. I think it's
ridiculous (but typical Microsoft) that when inserting a CD or DVD, the OS just dives
in head-first to do whatever the disc tells it too. And I like the AutoPlay features,
but AutoRun (the AUTORUN.INF open=... thing) is fool-hardy and usually annoying.
With all the choices you get for AutoPlay in XP now, you'd think they would at least
give you some options for the AutoRun feature. It asks me what software to run for
the DVD, but then says, "Oh! It has an installer too! Let's go!"
I'm going to go with the Option #3 JB gave and just forgo the AutoPlay feature.
DV
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006 at 2:33 pm, JB wrote:
>I think you are right, Anchor Man. After a lot of research and experimentation,
>I think the whole Windows Autoplay (aka Autorun) implementation is flawed at best
>and there is no option that is secure yet does what it's was designed to do. Here's
>what I think is a definitive summary of what the different Autoplay techniques do:
>
>- Autorun= 0/1 registry setting: This prevents Windows from knowing that
>the CD/DVD has been changed by the user. (e.g. suppresses the Media Change Notification
>(MCN) internal message). This is not recommended because it will confuse apps like
>Explorer and WMP.
>
>- AutoRunAlwaysDisable=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This does essentially
>the same thing as the "Autorun" setting above, but you can specifiy individual drives.
> This is also not recommended.
>
>- NoDriveTypeAutoRun=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This continues the Media
>Change Notification (MCN) internal Windows message being sent to applications like
>Explorer and WMP (if they are open), but the Autoplay actions you choose through
>the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab won't work. This is also what TweakUI
>and the Group Policy (gpedit.msc) techniques set.
>
>In a perfect world, we'd use the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab to set all the
Autoplay
>options we want, including preventing EXEs from running automatically from a CD.
> But, that's apparently not possible right now with the OS.
>
>My recommendation is to keep your computer as secure as possible and prevent EXEs
>from being automatically installed from the CD without your knowledge and consent.
> So, turn off Autoplay using techinque #3 above and just manually start the application
>you want, and manually run the setup programs from data CDs.
>
>
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re: Thanks, Anchor Man & JB
Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 3:53 am
Posted by Matthew D. Healy
(1255 messages posted)
Yes it is ridiculous, but remember that the basic mechanism was
designed in the Windows 95 era, when CD-burners were
extremely rare and extremely expensive so CDs basically
only came from large companies whom Microsoft trusted!
My own approach actually is I leave Autoplay enabled for
convenience most of the time, but to play untrusted CD
or DVD disks I use Linux -- and ever since learning what SONY
did, untrusted CDs certainly do include audio disks from major
labels. Fortunately, SONY got spanked pretty hard after that
stupidity so other companies will think twice before
they pull similar stunts -- I hope. As Reagan said, "trust
but verify."
On Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 9:29 pm, dv wrote:
>That is exactly what I was looking for. Too bad it doesn't exist. I think it's
>ridiculous (but typical Microsoft) that when inserting a CD or DVD, the OS just
dives
>in head-first to do whatever the disc tells it too. And I like the AutoPlay features,
>but AutoRun (the AUTORUN.INF open=... thing) is fool-hardy and usually annoying.
> With all the choices you get for AutoPlay in XP now, you'd think they would at
least
>give you some options for the AutoRun feature. It asks me what software to run
for
>the DVD, but then says, "Oh! It has an installer too! Let's go!"
>
>I'm going to go with the Option #3 JB gave and just forgo the AutoPlay feature.
>
>
>DV
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re: Can you keep Autoplay for apps, but disable autorun.inf file?
Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Posted by ints
(1 messages posted)
Check this in the XP registry, it seems some kind of autorun prevention by filetype
or textstring:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers\CancelAutoplay\Files]
"*setup*.exe"=""
"*instal*.exe"=""
"*setup*.bat"=""
"*instal*.bat"=""
"*setup*.cmd"=""
"*instal*.cmd"=""
"*setup*.com"=""
"*instal*.com"=""
"Y?kle*"=""
"Felrak.exe"=""
"Imposta.exe"=""
"KUR.exe"=""
"Ayarla.exe"=""
"sfc2.ico"=""
"evanims"=""
"00000001.tmp"=""
"updmoney.exe"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\11399\\11399_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9953\\9953_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9951\\9951_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9964\\9964_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9968\\9968_cd_fp.jpg"=""
On Tuesday, February 7, 2006 at 9:42 pm, AnchorMan wrote:
>You can't that I know of. Autoplay looks for autorun.inf which usually points to
>an executable or bat file on the CD. Audio CDs are recognized as audio by the burn
>format. Newer audio cd's are including video and the such, so you either love them
>or hate them. What you are trying to do is actually an oxymoron. By changing one
>the other is always affected.
>
>
>
>Anchor Man
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re: Summary of Autoplay capabilities and options
Friday, June 15, 2007 at 9:43 am
Posted by InterClaw
(1 messages posted)
And what if I want to accomplish the exact opposite?
I'm trying to make my USB drive always execute the same program, no questions asked,
when inserted.
Instead, since it finds some pictures here and there that AutoPlay functionality
kicks in and keeps asking me what it should do, scan and print and whatnot. And I
HATE that!
Please forget about those handles and just run my command in autorun.inf already!
Can I fix this?
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006 at 2:33 pm, JB wrote:
>I think you are right, Anchor Man. After a lot of research and experimentation,
>I think the whole Windows Autoplay (aka Autorun) implementation is flawed at best
>and there is no option that is secure yet does what it's was designed to do. Here's
>what I think is a definitive summary of what the different Autoplay techniques do:
>
>- Autorun= 0/1 registry setting: This prevents Windows from knowing that
>the CD/DVD has been changed by the user. (e.g. suppresses the Media Change Notification
>(MCN) internal message). This is not recommended because it will confuse apps like
>Explorer and WMP.
>
>- AutoRunAlwaysDisable=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This does essentially
>the same thing as the "Autorun" setting above, but you can specifiy individual drives.
> This is also not recommended.
>
>- NoDriveTypeAutoRun=0x0–0xFF registry setting: This continues the Media
>Change Notification (MCN) internal Windows message being sent to applications like
>Explorer and WMP (if they are open), but the Autoplay actions you choose through
>the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab won't work. This is also what TweakUI
>and the Group Policy (gpedit.msc) techniques set.
>
>In a perfect world, we'd use the "My Computer" -> "Autoplay" tab to set all the
Autoplay
>options we want, including preventing EXEs from running automatically from a CD.
> But, that's apparently not possible right now with the OS.
>
>My recommendation is to keep your computer as secure as possible and prevent EXEs
>from being automatically installed from the CD without your knowledge and consent.
> So, turn off Autoplay using techinque #3 above and just manually start the application
>you want, and manually run the setup programs from data CDs.
>
>
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