I have two Automatic Updates (Security Updates for Microsoft.NET) that won't load. Each shut-down I see the computer try to load these same two updates. I don't see where they are to delete them or remove them from the shut-down.

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I've had the same problem recently.. These two .net framework updates are quite irritating.. 
The solution I came up with was this..

I had to re-download directly from microsoft the .NET framework 1.1 and .net framework 
2.0 installation files.  (not the updates, the main installation files, do a search 
on microsoft.com)

Then also download the MSI cleanup utility  (search for it on Microsofts website). 
 Now, in my experience, I could not uninstall the .net frameworks because of a similiar 
error the updates gave, and I could not reinstall the .net frameworks because the 
system thinks (rightly) that they are already installed.  So, I had to use the MSI 
cleanup utility to remove the presence of the two .net frameworks.. Then, I could 
reinstall the .net frameworks.. And then update them as normal.


You might try just uninstalling and then reinstalling each framework, but if you 
get the error try the MSI utility.

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Thanks--I'll try that! I kept hoping the next Auto-Up would be the fix for those two that don't load...

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why needing both?

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They're different.. One doesn't replace the other.

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Oh,that's good to know.
Thanks.

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Firstly, you likely don't need .NET framework installed at all, unless you have software 
installed that required it, and/or you run a server? You surely don't need two versions 
installed at once. 


 


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Yeah, they're different.. different versions. You don't need more than one version installed, but they will display seperately in Add/Remove. The same goes for Sun's Java.

All kinds of things utilize the .net 1.1 framework, and 2.0 is getting more popular. 
 I haven't seen 3.0 required yet.

Anything devleoped with Visual Studio requires the frameworks.. Just about any HP 
all-in-one unit in the last couple years has required it for their software.. Many, 
many things utilize it... And as time goes on it will be even more important.

As I stated earlier, 1.1 and 2.0 as well as 3.0 are not the same.... You have to 
have more than one installed in order to maintain compatibility with those programs 
that require it.  I'm not sure if it is because 2.0 doesn't support 1.1 features, 
or what.. But I do know that 2.0 does not replace 1.1.  Both install in different 
locations, 2.0 doesn't upgrade 1.1.  That may change in the future, I'm not sure.

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As I mentioned, Sun's Java installs the same way.. along side each other, but that 
doesn't mean you need all versions installed. On the contrary, all old versions should 
be removed. 

While different apps were developed using different versions of .NET, that has nothing 
to do with the "user" needing various versions installed, to my knowledge, only to 
the developers. 

If you need .NET Framework in order to install a particular app (and do not have 
it installed), you'll get a message during installation of the software, that .NET 
is required. Other than that, .NET is only useful to the software developers and 
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.. on this .NET Framework controversy.

As the guy who got this strand of the thread going, thanks to all for the discussion. I know absolutely nothing about framework.NET and I am reading all this with interest. Thanks, again.

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I tried the solution offered by appleoddity--and thanks for the help. As follow-up, the 2.0 worked like a charm, but after repeated tries the 1.1 seems still to be corrupted. (I started all this wondering where the yet-to-be installed updates are stored. I could remove it from there, but that would just postpone the problem, I suppose.)

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