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re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 1:18 pm Posted by MartinM (7551 messages posted) XP works fine without SP2, but SP2 fixes numerous bugs and security holes (mostly in IE). Sure you can download SP2, and its free. Better still, though, slipstream it so you install XP and SP2 at the same time, avoids lots of issues. Search this forum to find out how to do this. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 1:30 pm Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) Awesome thanks. One thing though, if you look on futureshop.ca it appears they sell SP2 for $130. Or am I just misreading it? Search "Windows XP" on futureshop for info. On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 1:18 pm, MartinM wrote: > >XP works fine without SP2, but SP2 fixes numerous bugs and security holes (mostly >in IE). > >Sure you can download SP2, and its free. Better still, though, slipstream it so you >install XP and SP2 at the same time, avoids lots of issues. > >Search this forum to find out how to do this. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 2:37 pm Posted by Johnb33 (2283 messages posted) Whats wrong with this one for 85 bucks? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056 On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 1:30 pm, SlickBlackJesus wrote: >Awesome thanks. One thing though, if you look on futureshop.ca it appears they sell >SP2 for $130. Or am I just misreading it? Search "Windows XP" on futureshop for >info. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 2:47 pm Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) I just want to know if you have to buy the SP2. People are telling me that you dont but why would it be for sale? On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 2:37 pm, Johnb33 wrote: >Whats wrong with this one for 85 bucks? > >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056 > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:06 pm Posted by Johnb33 (2283 messages posted) I'm only saying why would you buy the original version of XP with no SP2 and then have to slipstream SP2 into it, when you can just buy XP with SP2 already included in it??? There isn't extra money involved for having SP2 included. On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 2:47 pm, SlickBlackJesus wrote: >I just want to know if you have to buy the SP2. People are telling me that you dont >but why would it be for sale? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:06 pm Posted by Ricer46 (23825 messages posted) XP is for sale not SP2 by itself. The ad is to let customers know which version of XP will be delivered. On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 2:47 pm, SlickBlackJesus wrote: >I just want to know if you have to buy the SP2. People are telling me that you dont >but why would it be for sale? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:19 pm Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) It says "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade SP2" is $130 but it also says "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition With Service Pack 2" is $270. Whats the difference? On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:06 pm, Ricer46 wrote: >XP is for sale not SP2 by itself. The ad is to let customers know which version of >XP will be delivered. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:28 pm Posted by Johnb33 (2283 messages posted) The OEM version is cheaper, no manual or anything. just cd and cd key to activate, no support from microsoft. Upgrade version is when you have a earlier version of windows already installed, its just a little more money than the OEM version, includes support from microsoft and cdkey to activate. The retail version has manuals and support from Microsoft, basically for new systems. Most people just buy the OEM version to save money. On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:19 pm, SlickBlackJesus wrote: >It says "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade SP2" is $130 but it also says >"Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition With Service Pack 2" is $270. Whats the difference? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:33 pm Posted by Steve B (1909 messages posted) Upgrade versions are cheaper. Installing it requires proof that you have an earlier version of Windows. I guess the upgrade version is like the OEM version in that you can only run it on one computer. If you get a new computer, you need to purchase another license. But that's only a guess. The one for $270 is probably the full retail version that you can switch to a newer computer in the future. Service packs are free. The latest is SP3 which is what I'm running. Indeed I did slipstream mine. Autostreamer makes it fairly easy. On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:19 pm, SlickBlackJesus wrote: >It says "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade SP2" is $130 but it also says >"Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition With Service Pack 2" is $270. Whats the difference? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:40 pm Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) Alright well I am currently running Fedora 8 and am about to purchase the original Windows XP without SP2. Is it fine by itself of do I have to pay for the upgrade aswell? Also, I dont know what OEM is. On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:28 pm, Johnb33 wrote: >The OEM version is cheaper, no manual or anything. just cd and cd key to activate, >no support from microsoft. Upgrade version is when you have a earlier version of >windows already installed, its just a little more money than the OEM version, includes >support from microsoft and cdkey to activate. The retail version has manuals and >support from Microsoft, basically for new systems. Most people just buy the OEM >version to save money. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:45 pm Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) Can you explain what OEM is and how to slipstream a service pack? On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:33 pm, Steve B wrote: >Upgrade versions are cheaper. Installing it requires proof that you have an earlier >version of Windows. I guess the upgrade version is like the OEM version in that >you can only run it on one computer. If you get a new computer, you need to purchase >another license. But that's only a guess. The one for $270 is probably the full >retail version that you can switch to a newer computer in the future. > >Service packs are free. The latest is SP3 which is what I'm running. Indeed I did >slipstream mine. Autostreamer makes it fairly easy. > > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:50 pm Posted by Steve (23811 messages posted) OEM XP CD's are the CDs that a manufacture uses, but they can be purchased by anyone. They are a Full install CD, upgrade installs can't be done by the OEM Disks. Microsoft doesn't offer any phone support with them either, but who cares. Just use Google to find out more information about it, or on what slipstreaming means. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 4:05 pm Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) appreciate it On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:50 pm, Steve wrote: >OEM XP CD's are the CDs that a manufacture uses, but they can be purchased by anyone. >They are a Full install CD, upgrade installs can't be done by the OEM Disks. Microsoft >doesn't offer any phone support with them either, but who cares. Just use Google >to find out more information about it, or on what slipstreaming means. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 2:07 am Posted by MartinM (7551 messages posted) You are mis-reading FutureShop's website ! The $130 item is for Windows XP with SP2 . . . . sold as an upgrade from a previous version of Windows eg Windows 98. It is NOT an upgrade of XP to XP SP2 which is and always has been free :-))) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 3:36 am Posted by vishal (45 messages posted) there is no any problem whether u buy xp with or without sp2, but after installing it u can updated ur xp to sp3 directly from MS website. go to tools tab in IE and click on windows update. it takes hardly 1 hour to update XP. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 7:23 am Posted by Steve B (1909 messages posted) Slipstreaming is the term used to integrate a service pack into XP and burn a new XP install CD or DVD. If you do this, then when you install XP from the new disc, the service pack will already be installed. Otherwise if you install XP from an install disc that doesn't have the latest service pack, you will need to install the service pack after the install. Either way works though. I don't know how difficult it is for the average person to slipstream. If you are interested, here are two links: http://www.ubcd4win.com/slipstream.htm http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/using_autostreamer/using_autostreamer.shtml On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 3:45 pm, SlickBlackJesus wrote: >Can you explain what OEM is and how to slipstream a service pack? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 9:10 am Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) So your saying that I dont have to slipstream and burn a cd? On Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 3:36 am, vishal wrote: >there is no any problem whether u buy xp with or without sp2, but after installing >it u can updated ur xp to sp3 directly from MS website. go to tools tab in IE and >click on windows update. it takes hardly 1 hour to update XP. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 9:12 am Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) Check out Vishal's message. Is that true? Is there no need to slipstream? On Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 7:23 am, Steve B wrote: >Slipstreaming is the term used to integrate a service pack into XP and burn a new >XP install CD or DVD. If you do this, then when you install XP from the new disc, >the service pack will already be installed. > >Otherwise if you install XP from an install disc that doesn't have the latest service >pack, you will need to install the service pack after the install. Either way works >though. > >I don't know how difficult it is for the average person to slipstream. If you are >interested, here are two links: >http://www.ubcd4win.com/slipstream.htm >http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/using_autostreamer/using_autostreamer.shtml > > > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 9:14 am Posted by SlickBlackJesus (28 messages posted) Any idea why one is so much more than the other? Does it have to do with the OEM disk? On Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 2:07 am, MartinM wrote: > >You are mis-reading FutureShop's website ! > >The $130 item is for Windows XP with SP2 . . . . sold as an upgrade from a previous >version of Windows eg Windows 98. > >It is NOT an upgrade of XP to XP SP2 which is and always has been free :-))) > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 11:19 am Posted by Steve B (1909 messages posted) Correct. There's probably no need to slipstream. You can install the service packs later. There is one thing different about SP3. You can't install it on a running XP that has no service packs installed. The XP must have at least SP1 installed before you install SP3. So if your XP install CD has no service packs on it, you need to install SP1 or SP2 before installing SP3. If you slipstream, you can slipstream SP3 directly on XP with no other service packs installed. On Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 9:12 am, SlickBlackJesus wrote: >Check out Vishal's message. Is that true? Is there no need to slipstream? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Friday, July 25, 2008 at 12:58 am Posted by vishal (45 messages posted) I dont know why u want to burn a cd? i'm telling u that if u use a genuine windows xp then u can upgrade it with sp3. i think there is no need to burn a cd. not even xp, u can upgrade any version of windows to latest service pack. bt for that u need a genuine windows. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Service Pack 2 needed? Wednesday, July 8, 2009 at 8:53 pm Posted by Brent (8 messages posted) I personally don't think any of the service packs are necessary unless you're using Microsoft IE as your browser. I use Seamonkey and deleted all the service packs and see no problems so far. 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