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Desktop Tearing
Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Posted by thomas (13 messages posted)

hi, I see tearing on my windows xp computer while i am dragging windows horizontally, or when i am watching online videos like in youtube or in quicktime player. Doing lots of research i found out that most of the xp systems does that. I was wondering if there is any way to enable double buffering on all windowed 2D applications. If there is any way please let me know. thanks

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re: Desktop Tearing
Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Posted by geek9pm (1030 messages posted)

You said "tearing on my windows xp computer."
Which part of the computer? Front? Side? BaCK?
Or did you mean a standard CRT monitor? What do you mean by tearing? Internet Video are often of poor quality. Please give some details. Some CRTs with do something like that and it has nothing to do with the software.

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re: Desktop Tearing
Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Posted by C K (6910 messages posted)

What are the specs of your computer?  Onboard (on the motherboard) video device?

When screen redraws are slow, it is usually caused by a slow or over loaded system, 
graphics device that is slow and/or has low amounts of memory (or uses system RAM). 
 Can also be the fault of the graphics driver (buggy etc)..




On sufficiently fast systems without a high CPU load and with a good slot mounted graphics card and a higher speed buss, you will see a lot less to none of what I "think", you are talking about.

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re: Desktop Tearing
Monday, December 29, 2008 at 1:34 am
Posted by thomas (13 messages posted)

i have a amd athlon 3500+ cpu (2.2 ghz) with 256mb of ati radeon 2400 pro graphics card and 2gb or ram. the tearing is seen while dragging windows horizontally across my screen (LCD 24" samsung). it is also seen while playing windowed videos such as in youtube and in quicktime player, the visualizations in windows media player also tear. the aero theme in vista doesn't tear at all, while in xp classic mode does. So all i wanted to know was, is it the problem of the operating system? or is there any theme for xp which doesn't tear just like aerotheme in vista? if you have an xp system you could try it, i am pretty sure you can see it , no matter how good graphics you have. I hope to hear from you thanks.


On Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 9:59 pm, geek9pm wrote:
>You said "tearing on my windows xp computer."
>Which part of the computer? Front? Side? BaCK?
>Or did you mean a standard CRT monitor? What do you mean by tearing? Internet Video
>are often of poor quality. Please give some details. Some CRTs with do something
>like that and it has nothing to do with the software.

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re: Desktop Tearing
Monday, December 29, 2008 at 7:23 am
Posted by MartinM (7551 messages posted)

In addition to CK's comments, Vista is a complete re-write of this weak area of XP functionality. Aside from upping your video memory, graphics card/driver and CPU, there's not a lot you can do with XP.

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re: Desktop Tearing
Monday, December 29, 2008 at 8:54 am
Posted by C K (6910 messages posted)

It is optimized for VISTA, meaning that it may or may not work well with XP depending 
on other hardware involved (board and CPU brand/model), but make sure you go through 
all of the settings for best performance in XP.  I would suspect that the XP drivers 
haven't had a lot of time spent on them for R and D since this card was targeted 
for Vista.  I would check on ATI's website for a forum there and post your question. 
 Since it involves the hardware, I would start there..

Overall, VISTA does better with the PCI-E slots than XP does IME...  You may also 
want to make sure you have updated motherboard drivers for XP, if they are available. 
 I've seen motherboard and chipset drivers cause the same issues on new hardware 
with an older (and XP is older) operating systems.

Could it have a componant of an opertaing system problem?  Yes definately, but on 
older faster cards on the AGP buss (on my systems), I am not seeing it so you could 
have multiple issues and probably not all the fault of the operating system since 
XP was released when the older AGP buss was standard at the time, not the new PCI-E 
buss and hardware specifications of todays hardware...

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re: Desktop Tearing
Monday, December 29, 2008 at 9:38 am
Posted by geek9pm (1030 messages posted)

Thank you for the system information. Yes, the problem is with XP, as was mentioned in another post.

In the MS KB there was/is a problem with some ATI graphics. Also another issue with the AMD CPU in XP. Sorry, I do not know if that relates to your problem.

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re: Desktop Tearing
Saturday, January 3, 2009 at 1:27 am
Posted by thomas (13 messages posted)

Is there any systems (cpu ,board and video card ) with xp in which you don't see any tearing at all, if there is any could u please let me know.


On Monday, December 29, 2008 at 8:54 am, C K wrote:
>It is optimized for VISTA, meaning that it may or may not work well with XP depending
>on other hardware involved (board and CPU brand/model), but make sure you go through
>all of the settings for best performance in XP. I would suspect that the XP drivers
>haven't had a lot of time spent on them for R and D since this card was targeted
>for Vista. I would check on ATI's website for a forum there and post your question.
> Since it involves the hardware, I would start there..
>
>Overall, VISTA does better with the PCI-E slots than XP does IME... You may also
>want to make sure you have updated motherboard drivers for XP, if they are available.
> I've seen motherboard and chipset drivers cause the same issues on new hardware
>with an older (and XP is older) operating systems.
>
>Could it have a componant of an opertaing system problem? Yes definately, but on
>older faster cards on the AGP buss (on my systems), I am not seeing it so you could
>have multiple issues and probably not all the fault of the operating system since
>XP was released when the older AGP buss was standard at the time, not the new PCI-E
>buss and hardware specifications of todays hardware...

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