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systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
I know this seems to be a quite a common problem. I have done a disk check, refrag
the registry and also did memtest with no solution. Then I read Ben Crouse's solution
but I dont understand it. He recommends to make a back up of the original ntuser.dat,
replacing it with the Windows repair copy, then finally overwriting a newly created
one with the backup copy. Would this cause the same problem as before ? Tks
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 11:30 am
Posted by Ricer46
(23825 messages posted)
Wouldn't it make sense to reference "Ben Crouse's solution?' That way we might have
some idea as to what you are talking about. The procedure you described makes little
sense.
A better way to backup the registry is to use erunt. ntuser.dat is only part of the
registry.
On Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am, Jeff wrote:
>I know this seems to be a quite a common problem. I have done a disk check, refrag
>the registry and also did memtest with no solution. Then I read Ben Crouse's solution
>but I dont understand it. He recommends to make a back up of the original ntuser.dat,
>replacing it with the Windows repair copy, then finally overwriting a newly created
>one with the backup copy. Would this cause the same problem as before ? Tks
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
Sorry , here is the procedure I was referring to:
Quote:
1. Create a new user account with administrative rights on the affected machine.
Navigate to the affected user's profile directory and copy ntuser.dat to a folder
named backup on your C: drive.
(example for a user named dave: copy c:\Documents and Settings\dave\ntuser.dat to
c:\backup)
2. Once you have backed up the ntuser.dat file, overwrite it with the one located
in c:\windows\repair\
(example for a user named dave: copy c:\windows\repair\ntuser.dat to c:\Documents
and Settings\dave\ )
3. Log off the temporary account you have created and login to the affected user
account and let windows fully load up. This will create a new ntuser.dat file under
the user's profile.
4. Once windows has fully loaded up, log back out of the affected user's account
and log back into the temporary account you made earlier.
5. Copy the ntuser.dat file you backed up earlier to the user's profile directory
overwriting the new file that was created.
(example for a user named dave: copy c:\backup\ntuser.dat to c:\Documents and Settings\dave\
)
6. Log out of the temporary account and log back into the computer under the affected
account and see if the problem is fixed.
Hope this work for you like it did me.
Unquote.
This process did not make sense to me because after all the manipulation , we are
replacing the new ntuser.dat with one that presumable had problems. Why not just
leave the ntuser.dat from the repair folder?
Tks
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Ricer46
(23825 messages posted)
Next time mark the check box at the bottom of the screen to preserve spacing.
The procedure makes no sense to me. I would agree with your assessment; however the
one from the repair folder may not produce acceptable results, depends on how old
it is.
In the future, you should look into erunt for making backups of your registry and/or
look into disk imaging software.
On Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 3:00 pm, Jeff wrote:
>Sorry , here is the procedure I was referring to:
>
>Quote:
>
>1. Create a new user account with administrative rights on the affected machine.
>Navigate to the affected user's profile directory and copy ntuser.dat to a folder
>named backup on your C: drive.
>
>(example for a user named dave: copy c:\Documents and Settings\dave\ntuser.dat to
>c:\backup)
>
>
>2. Once you have backed up the ntuser.dat file, overwrite it with the one located
>in c:\windows\repair\
>
>(example for a user named dave: copy c:\windows\repair\ntuser.dat to c:\Documents
>and Settings\dave\ )
>
>
>3. Log off the temporary account you have created and login to the affected user
>account and let windows fully load up. This will create a new ntuser.dat file under
>the user's profile.
>
>
>4. Once windows has fully loaded up, log back out of the affected user's account
>and log back into the temporary account you made earlier.
>
>
>5. Copy the ntuser.dat file you backed up earlier to the user's profile directory
>overwriting the new file that was created.
>
>(example for a user named dave: copy c:\backup\ntuser.dat to c:\Documents and Settings\dave\
>)
>
>
>6. Log out of the temporary account and log back into the computer under the affected
>account and see if the problem is fixed.
>
>
>Hope this work for you like it did me.
>
>Unquote.
>
>This process did not make sense to me because after all the manipulation , we are
>replacing the new ntuser.dat with one that presumable had problems. Why not just
>leave the ntuser.dat from the repair folder?
>
>Tks
>
>
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
Sorry, I did not notice the "preserve spacing " check box.
Now I am stuck with the problem and don't know how to fix it. I read somewhere that
I maybe able to repair my ntuser.dat file if I use regdatxp 4.1
Would the problem go away if I create a new user account with admin privileges then
copy over my profile to the new user account using WinXp Files and Transfer wizard
?
Any other suggestions?
Right now its just an annoyance . I am afraid that the problem might get worse with
time and I may not be able to log into my account in the future . It's too bad that
windows just went ahead and used the alternate copy but don't list the files that
are causing the problem in the first place.
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Ricer46
(23825 messages posted)
I don't think you ever said what the problem was. In many cases yes, in others no.
I wouldn't trust the product you named, although I am not familiar with it.
I avoid ever having problems that might require a fix like you are attempting, by
making Acronis image backups.
On Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Jeff wrote:
>Sorry, I did not notice the "preserve spacing " check box.
>
>Now I am stuck with the problem and don't know how to fix it. I read somewhere
that
>I maybe able to repair my ntuser.dat file if I use regdatxp 4.1
>
>Would the problem go away if I create a new user account with admin privileges
then
>copy over my profile to the new user account using WinXp Files and Transfer wizard
>?
>
>Any other suggestions?
>
>Right now its just an annoyance . I am afraid that the problem might get worse with
>time and I may not be able to log into my account in the future . It's too bad that
>windows just went ahead and used the alternate copy but don't list the files that
>are causing the problem in the first place.
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
The problem is that when I boot up , the following message shows up:
"One of the files containing the Systems Registry data had to be recovered by use
of log or alternate copy. The recovery was successful"
I had to click OK 2 times or more before the User accounts log in screen shows up.
I then click on my user account and the message appears again. I click OK once more
and then I am logged in. Then everything works as expected.
This message appears also if I log into my wife's account but does not show up when
I log into Guest account.
Both our accounts have admin rights .
This is really puzzling . It started sometime ago . It happened certainly at an earlier
date than I can restore to.
I made a Google search of this issue and this seems to be quite a common problem
but no one has a definitive solution .
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Ricer46
(23825 messages posted)
Account corruption is not uncommon. Don't understand why both would go bad together,
yet not the guest account.
But one way to deal with corrupt accounts is to create a new one, move data from
the old to the new, then delete the old account. Don't try to rename the new account
to the same name as the old one after deleting it.
In this situation (if it happened to me), I'd restore my last good image file, and
be done with both problems in just a few minutes.
On Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 8:08 pm, Jeff wrote:
>The problem is that when I boot up , the following message shows up:
>
>"One of the files containing the Systems Registry data had to be recovered by use
>of log or alternate copy. The recovery was successful"
>
>I had to click OK 2 times or more before the User accounts log in screen shows up.
>
>I then click on my user account and the message appears again. I click OK once more
>and then I am logged in. Then everything works as expected.
>
>This message appears also if I log into my wife's account but does not show up when
>I log into Guest account.
>
>Both our accounts have admin rights .
>
>This is really puzzling . It started sometime ago . It happened certainly at an
earlier
>date than I can restore to.
>
>I made a Google search of this issue and this seems to be quite a common problem
>but no one has a definitive solution .
>
>
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
The problem is that when I look at the available restore points they seem to be
later in time than when I first spotted the problem so restoring will not workout
. I may just have to create a new user account and move over my files , docs & settings
using the windows XP Transfer files utility .
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Adam Bradley
(8787 messages posted)
I would just copy the files by hand, copying files and settings is likely to transfer
the problem with it. Have you scanned for malware yet? That can sometimes cause random
errors.
On Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 9:36 pm, Jeff wrote:
>The problem is that when I look at the available restore points they seem to be
>later in time than when I first spotted the problem so restoring will not workout
>. I may just have to create a new user account and move over my files , docs & settings
>using the windows XP Transfer files utility .
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Monday, October 5, 2009 at 7:11 am
Posted by Ricer46
(23825 messages posted)
That's why System Restore is nearly worthless. I disable it immediately on install.
As Adam told you do not use the Transfer utility, and he made a great suggestion
that slipped by me to check for malware. They often cause strange problems that
make no sense.
On Sunday, October 4, 2009 at 9:36 pm, Jeff wrote:
>The problem is that when I look at the available restore points they seem to be
>later in time than when I first spotted the problem so restoring will not workout
>. I may just have to create a new user account and move over my files , docs & settings
>using the windows XP Transfer files utility .
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Monday, October 5, 2009 at 8:54 am
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
Yes, That was the first thing I did. I scanned for Malware using :
a) Spybot SD b) Superantispyware c) Advanced System Care
I also did a Boot Time scan with Avast for virus .
No trojan, virus but some spyware were found . All spyware were quarantined.
I created a new admin profile yesterday . Copied all files and folders in docs and
settings from my old profile except ntuser.dat/.log/.ini to the new profile. I over
wrote the new with the old whenever there was a duplicate
Problem still there.
Maybe I have to delete my old profile before it will work? But before I do I have
to manually transfer all my files and get Outlook to work in the new profile ( ie
have to set it up) .I thought it would work immediately because during the copy to
new profile I noticed that the Pst was transfered . It looks like it did not transfer
my comcast settings . Maybe I could just delete the old profile but retain all the
old files to save work ?
Any other suggestions?
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Monday, October 5, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Adam Bradley
(8787 messages posted)
Try just copying the data files, in all likelihood the thing causing your problem
is in the .ini and .dat files.
On Monday, October 5, 2009 at 8:54 am, Jeff wrote:
>Yes, That was the first thing I did. I scanned for Malware using :
> a) Spybot SD b) Superantispyware c) Advanced System Care
>
>I also did a Boot Time scan with Avast for virus .
>
>No trojan, virus but some spyware were found . All spyware were quarantined.
>
>I created a new admin profile yesterday . Copied all files and folders in docs and
>settings from my old profile except ntuser.dat/.log/.ini to the new profile. I over
>wrote the new with the old whenever there was a duplicate
>
>Problem still there.
>
>Maybe I have to delete my old profile before it will work? But before I do I have
>to manually transfer all my files and get Outlook to work in the new profile ( ie
>have to set it up) .I thought it would work immediately because during the copy
to
>new profile I noticed that the Pst was transfered . It looks like it did not transfer
>my comcast settings . Maybe I could just delete the old profile but retain all the
>old files to save work ?
>
>Any other suggestions?
>
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Monday, October 5, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Ricer46
(23825 messages posted)
Same as what Adam told you, you screwed up by copying everything.
You essentially did everything the Files and Transfer wizard does.
ONLY copy the data files, that's mostly the My Documents folder,
but if you look harder you can find email files, and bookmarks and copy those as
well.
So delete the newly created account, and do it over.
On Monday, October 5, 2009 at 8:54 am, Jeff wrote:
>Yes, That was the first thing I did. I scanned for Malware using :
> a) Spybot SD b) Superantispyware c) Advanced System Care
>
>I also did a Boot Time scan with Avast for virus .
>
>No trojan, virus but some spyware were found . All spyware were quarantined.
>
>I created a new admin profile yesterday . Copied all files and folders in docs and
>settings from my old profile except ntuser.dat/.log/.ini to the new profile. I over
>wrote the new with the old whenever there was a duplicate
>
>Problem still there.
>
>Maybe I have to delete my old profile before it will work? But before I do I have
>to manually transfer all my files and get Outlook to work in the new profile ( ie
>have to set it up) .I thought it would work immediately because during the copy
to
>new profile I noticed that the Pst was transfered . It looks like it did not transfer
>my comcast settings . Maybe I could just delete the old profile but retain all the
>old files to save work ?
>
>Any other suggestions?
>
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Monday, October 5, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
I did not copy the old ntuser.dat / log /ini files from my old profile over to the
new profile. I used the new ones created in the new profile. I copied everything
else incl email , my documents etc . Still did not work for me. I will try it again
.
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re: systems registry data had to be recovered by use of log etc
Friday, October 9, 2009 at 9:25 am
Posted by sportflyer
(23 messages posted)
I finally fixed the problem. There were 3 files in the Zonemap\domains that were
corrupted. Removing these entries stopped the annoying messages. I used Regdatxp
.
Henry , the author of RegdatXP helped me through the process .
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