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re: Defrags Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 4:37 am Posted by William (135 messages posted) Not sure which one you may be referring to, but a couple I am aware of are: Auslogics DiskDefrag Piriform defraggler and you can goggle for others if you feel you need a defrag program. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 5:18 am Posted by Keith Stanier (1655 messages posted) Carol wrote: |I read somewhere on this forum about another defrag software to d/l other then using |windows one, Hi Carol. Yes as William has suggested I would recommend Defraggler. I would also recommend CCleaner and Recuva from the same company, they are all free. You can get all these in one go from FileHippo What I wouldn't recommend is their forum. I've been a member for a few years and they banned me recently. Not for posting anything illegal or offensive just for making a comment, its one of the Mods is a power crazy bas***d. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 5:57 am Posted by Peter (278 messages posted) Actually, Defraggler is a very interesting program.It can list every fragmented file , tell you how many fragments there are and allows you to defrag individual files.It also lets you click on any cluster and it will tell you what files are present.Perhaps not a great deal of practical use but quite interesting and amusing.It does of course defrag very quickly , either files or freespace or the whole disk. On Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 5:18 am, Keith Stanier wrote: >Carol wrote: >|I read somewhere on this forum about another defrag software to d/l other then using >|windows one, > >Hi Carol. > >Yes as William has suggested I would recommend Defraggler. >I would also recommend CCleaner and Recuva from the same company, they are all free. >You can get all these in one go from FileHippo > >What I wouldn't recommend is their forum. I've been a member for a few years and >they banned me recently. Not for posting anything illegal or offensive just for making >a comment, its one of the Mods is a power crazy bas***d. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags - don't do it ! Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 9:21 am Posted by MartinM (7551 messages posted) Carol, Unless you are experiencing problems, please don't bother defragmenting your hard disk. Even if you are experiencing issues, they're likely nothing to do with fragmentation. In normal use, most XP systems will run happily for their lifetime without needing to be defragmented and there's a small risk of screwing things up if you do it. Not worth it ! Needing defragmentation is a hangover from older systems, and one perpetuated by vendors of unnecessaary software, amongst others :-)) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 4:31 am Posted by Carol (47 messages posted) Thanks to all who replied , but some of you say you do use a defragger program and others don't, may I ask why. this is to Martin: you mentioned in your note "Unless you are experiencing problems," what problems are you talking about? On Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 4:13 am, Carol wrote: >I read somewhere on this forum about another defrag software to d/l other then using >windows one, I thought I wrote it down but could not find it, I know it was not UniBlue >( that one is for the registry) does anyone know the name of it, and can I d/l it >from Download.com > >Thanks for any help [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 4:44 am Posted by William (135 messages posted) I do Not use a defrag program. I was simply trying to answer your question reference someone mentioning a defrag program on this forum. To use or not to use is your choice, but it is really not necessary except in very unusual situations. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 5:35 am Posted by Adam Bradley (8787 messages posted) Defragging your hard drive is only needed if file fragmentation is slowing the system down, and XP has to be very very badly fragmented for it to have a real effect on speed. Defrag venders will tell you it is a miracle cure for any slow system but the truth is that XP rarely needs a defrag and when it does the built in defragger is perfectly capable of handling the job. On Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 4:31 am, Carol wrote: >Thanks to all who replied , but some of you say you do use a defragger program and >others don't, may I ask why. >this is to Martin: you mentioned in your note "Unless you are experiencing problems," >what problems are you talking about? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 6:04 am Posted by MartinM (7551 messages posted) Carol, the only problem that defragmentation might possibly fix is if your PC is running desperately slowly. My point is this: 1. If your PC is running fine, then don't defragment the HDD 2. If your PC is not running fine, then its very unlikely that fragmentation is the cause - so its better to diagnose what specifically is wrong rather than trying a blanket solution which is unlikely to work. 3. No particular harm in defragging, except that it can screw up badly (unlikely) and adds to the wear on your HDD. I hope this makes sense. On Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 4:31 am, Carol wrote: >Thanks to all who replied , but some of you say you do use a defragger program and >others don't, may I ask why. >this is to Martin: you mentioned in your note "Unless you are experiencing problems," >what problems are you talking about? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 8:00 am Posted by Larry (1364 messages posted) http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_dkchecklist.mspx?mfr=true On Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 4:13 am, Carol wrote: >I read somewhere on this forum about another defrag software to d/l other then using >windows one, I thought I wrote it down but could not find it, I know it was not UniBlue >( that one is for the registry) does anyone know the name of it, and can I d/l it >from Download.com > >Thanks for any help [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 11:30 pm Posted by Ricer46 (23825 messages posted) People defrag their disks, thinking it's critical to system performance, when in reality it seldom provides a noticeable difference. Going through the mathematics of the time it takes to retrieve a fragmented file versus a non-fragmented file reveals that the difference is very small. A data file with a hundred fragments takes (on average) about 0.3 seconds longer to load. On Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 4:31 am, Carol wrote: >Thanks to all who replied , but some of you say you do use a defragger program and >others don't, may I ask why. >this is to Martin: you mentioned in your note "Unless you are experiencing problems," >what problems are you talking about? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 2:34 am Posted by MartinM (7551 messages posted) Indeed so - the time to load a file completelycan be very small. And a "trick" of NTFS is that it allows the application to start reading the first fragment recovered, before the rest is added. That significantly reduces the effective delay in accessing the information in the file. Only writing is delayed until the whole file is recovered. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Defrags Friday, October 30, 2009 at 2:19 am Posted by Carol (47 messages posted) Just want to thank everyone again for all your help, saved all the information that was given to me, and hopefully next week I will go over all of it and decide if I want to d/l another defrager program or just do M.S. once in a while, (or not at all.) BTW someone mentioned ( sorry don't remember who,) I do have ccleaner, malware bites, and avg. On Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 4:31 am, Carol wrote: >Thanks to all who replied , but some of you say you do use a defragger program and >others don't, may I ask why. >this is to Martin: you mentioned in your note "Unless you are experiencing problems," >what problems are you talking about? > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows XP Discussion Forum