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re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, August 13, 2001 at 9:20 pm Posted by Annoyances.org Webmaster If nothing else, Windows XP will finally give us the stability of Windows NT/2000, and the industry support of Windows 9x/Me. Sure, nobody wants to blow another $100-$200 on more empty Microsoft promises, but then again, most of us will get XP preinstalled on a new computer, or via a cheaper upgrade. Stay tuned to Annoyances.org for tips on the best deal, as well as how to make XP bearable! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 3:28 am Posted by Crock (1 messages posted) WindowsXP is the OS that Microsoft should have released in 1995, It’s the best OS by far. Users who have paid for the product have nothing to fear from MS activation software. They arnt spying on you - neither are they preventing you from using your machine, they are just protecting their investment, the same as you would protect your business interests. Upgrades will get the new OS at a reduced rate, it costs nothing to obtain your ID via the net. NO ONE WILL MAKE YOU UPGRADE ! Sure in time win9x will be obsolete just as win3.1 users are - but that is quite a way off and Windows 2000 will run XP software - so there is no excuse for having to use it if you dont want. What I’m amazed at is the amount of jealousy there is concerning MS, Bill Gates is rich because he makes good software, If Linux was all its cracked up to be it would be No1. It has nothing to do with marketing - its all to do with ease of use - compatibility, and software available. Remember you cant even GIVE Linux away lol....... So all you whiners - just shut your loaf and let the man get on with his job - making the best OS better! On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 10:41 am Posted by noone (29 messages posted) Worst trolling ever. On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 9:03 pm Posted by Bryan Flynn (17 messages posted) I have to chuckle about 'NO ONE WILL MAKE YOU UPGRADE'. This is true enough, insofar as no one will hold a gun to my head, demanding that I do so, but MS has never followed such tactics like someone dumping a big pail of water on your head... MS instead is like a shifty, agile, little punk who sprays you, ALL_THE_TIME, with a plant mister, eventually soaking you. Just look at MSN Messenger... I haven't upgraded for months (since the most recent version was 'made available', but my 'dread of Fridays' is getting near the point where I will. To explain: has no one noticed, gotten annoyed at, written an email (as I have), etc. about the fact that Messenger's auto-upgrade has the three choices of 'Yes, I'll download it now', 'No, ask me again the next time I log on', and 'No, ask me again in one week'? There is no option for those of us, for whom our own version does what we NEED and WANT it to do AS IS, to say, 'No, don't ask me again.' But that shifty little punk with his plant mister has almost entirely soaked me now, and I'm almost ready to give in. And we all know that MS follows such tactics in larger issues, compared to which messenging is piddling small potatoes. With all of the comparisons we've seen between the computer industry and Detroit/the Big Three over the years, it's time for a new one: Sure, Detroit invented 'planned obsolescence', subtly changing each year's new model to distinguish it from older versions but, UNLIKE the computer industry, the fact that a new Buick comes out does NOT mean that the one you've got in the garage won't work anymore. I LIKE my 'old Buick' Messenger, and I'm sure it would drive MS nuts if everyone ignored the upgrades, but even if I wasn't nearly soaked anyway, I know that they'll make some change a year or two down the road, 'for the better', that will render my nice, 700K dl messenger worthless, and I'll have to get the 8Mb version instead if I want to keep using it. Yes I know it comes integrated with XP, but on the off chance I buy a new computer in the next few years, before XPire's replacement comes out. I'm repartitioning, reformatting, and installing Win98se again (PERHAPS WinMe). However, I tried WinMe, briefly, and hated it for two incredibly minor reasons: instead of radio buttons for 'shut down', 'restart', etc., they changed it to a drop-down (WHY? radio buttons are more convenient! AND they were what was used before... why change stupid things like that, unless it's a deliberate spray with the mister?), and two: there is no longer a way to turn off all caps filenames (good lord... why remove that? was it causing some un-work-aroundable, unfixable, critical fault in the new kernel or the gui engine? I think not.). Ummm. I guess this was kinda long. Oh, well... happy computing :) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, August 15, 2001 at 11:25 am Posted by glottis (1 messages posted) well, dont you people know the meaning of "copyright" ??? it is the right to copy, or the right way to copy. Breech it for your sake. i have installed XP and its totally cracked up. i have approx 1000000000000000000000000 day(s) before my version of XP expires :). there is no such thing as secure in computers. if it can be made, then it can be broken too. glottis On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, August 15, 2001 at 1:21 pm Posted by Penguin (1 messages posted) LINUX is by far MUCH better than Windows! It is a very stable OS Just because most windows users cant grasp the concept of the command prompt shows how Windows makes users Ignorant to the true power they can have over their systems. But LINUX isnt only command prompt it also has a GUI for those who are use to the windows style. You are totaly right when you say that MS has the right to protect thier Product anyway they see fit if you dont like what they are doing switch to a different OS..you have quite a few to choose from..Linux,BEos,chaos,QNX,Eros,morphOS,ReactOS,and many many more....I am not a windows basher as I still use windows myself along with Linux.. On Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 3:28 am, Crock wrote: >WindowsXP is the OS that Microsoft should have released in 1995, It’s the best OS >by far. > >Users who have paid for the product have nothing to fear from MS activation software. > >They arnt spying on you - neither are they preventing you from using your machine, >they are just protecting their investment, the same as you would protect your business >interests. > >Upgrades will get the new OS at a reduced rate, it costs nothing to obtain your ID >via the net. > >NO ONE WILL MAKE YOU UPGRADE ! > >Sure in time win9x will be obsolete just as win3.1 users are - but that is quite >a way off and Windows 2000 will run XP software - so there is no excuse for having >to use it if you dont want. > >What I’m amazed at is the amount of jealousy there is concerning MS, Bill Gates is >rich because he makes good software, If Linux was all its cracked up to be it would >be No1. It has nothing to do with marketing - its all to do with ease of use - compatibility, >and software available. Remember you cant even GIVE Linux away lol....... > >So all you whiners - just shut your loaf and let the man get on with his job - making >the best OS better! > > >On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: > >>Whats wrong with this picture? > >>Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest > >>man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware > >>I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine > >>so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me > >>a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after > >>30 days! > >>He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. > >>I have to call Him again and get a new key. > >>How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Thursday, August 16, 2001 at 3:33 am Posted by SuperMangoMan (2 messages posted) Windows XP seems to remind me of Windows 95... All those promises, and what did i get? *crash* I don't pay for my microsoft software, thank goodness. If i did, i would be mad. I can make my own software. I don't need to cope with crappy microsoft software. Has anyone noticed that the text in the windows setup has just about stayed the same, but slightly changed per release? If you keep improving an Os like that, and keep releasing service packs, something is definatly wrong. I'm sticking with free OS projects, like reactos (www.reactos.com). I don't pay for buggy software. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Thursday, August 16, 2001 at 8:38 pm Posted by The_Poche (1 messages posted) I think windows XP is great and all ,since I installed it i never had real problems and its still beta , so imagine when they fix all the bugs (or will they?) The only thing stupid is the activation stuff . It's like if you buy a house and the company you bought it from kepps the key and if you buy a new couch and TV , you have to call them to give you a new key , that makes no sense! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, August 17, 2001 at 5:51 pm Posted by MIDI Magician (2 messages posted) I tried XP. If you have a compulsive need to be on the cutting edge of experimental technology (a guinea pig AKA BETA tester), with deep, deep pockets, then XP will keep you vogue and busy. Over half of my current programs would not work. The other half (both 16-bit and 32-bit) worked as usual. The interface, I thought, was beautiful. I had lock-up problems which I attribute to hardware as I am only running a 1 gig machine wth 256 megs of DIMM RAM, 133mhz BUS and ATA 100 HD with a 2X AGP video card with 16 megs of VRAM. It is my opinion that it will take state of the art hardware (200mhz BUS), DDR RAM, 4X video card and whatever else is outrageously expensive to get things to run reliably. Then, throw in another four or five thousand dollars worth of new software (if they even make it to replace what you have), and you'll be just about where you are now with Windows 98. Too, for developers, the attempt to do away with DOS is just another stone around the neck to drag round with a "KICK ME" sign for being so gullible as to believe that anyone who uses XP is actually a power user. The only people who have no problems are those who don't use their machines to do much more than send email and listen to music. Otherwise, this baby is full of opportunities for those who want to move up another level in the challenge arena. -MIDI Magician On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, August 17, 2001 at 7:44 pm Posted by nunya damn business (1 messages posted) which build are you using?i havent got my hands on rc2, im running 2505 and it works like a charm. all my memory goggin progs dont touch xp, i can run 4x as long as i could with any 9x os.i get more crashes in one day with any given 9x than i do in over a month with xp. i dont take any stock in your opinion on xp especially with your generalized statements on "only if youre a ..." ive run xp for DAYS on end without a reboot with 0 problems, my only complaint is the stuff about not wanting to include java and the typical "im gonna own the world attitude" of ole Billy at Micro$oft. i agree that there are progs that dont mesh with xp, but its in BETA. so relax, wait till it comes out and then decide if you wanna pay money for it or not. name any other beta thats even half as stable as XP On Friday, August 17, 2001 at 5:51 pm, MIDI Magician wrote: >I tried XP. If you have a compulsive need to be on the cutting edge of experimental >technology (a guinea pig AKA BETA tester), with deep, deep pockets, then XP will >keep >you vogue and busy. Over half of my current programs would not work. The other >half >(both 16-bit and 32-bit) worked as usual. The interface, I thought, was beautiful. > I had >lock-up problems which I attribute to hardware as I am only running a 1 gig machine >wth >256 megs of DIMM RAM, 133mhz BUS and ATA 100 HD with a 2X AGP video card with >16 megs of VRAM. >It is my opinion that it will take state of the art hardware (200mhz BUS), DDR RAM, >4X video card and whatever else is outrageously expensive to get things to run reliably. > >Then, throw in another four or five thousand dollars worth of new software (if they >even >make it to replace what you have), and you'll be just about where you are now with >Windows 98. >Too, for developers, the attempt to do away with DOS is just another stone around >the neck to drag round with a "KICK ME" sign for being so gullible as to believe >that >anyone who uses XP is actually a power user. The only people who have no problems >are those who don't use their machines to do much more than send email and listen >to music. Otherwise, this baby is full of opportunities for those who want to move >up >another level in the challenge arena. >-MIDI Magician > > > >On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: > >>Whats wrong with this picture? > >>Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest > >>man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware > >>I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine > >>so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me > >>a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after > >>30 days! > >>He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. > >>I have to call Him again and get a new key. > >>How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Saturday, August 18, 2001 at 10:28 pm Posted by david wright (2 messages posted) It is clear that you ignored most of the responders argument because there is really no way to aviod the conclusion that Microsoft is a greedy and trecherous monopoly. In order to buy a computer (or a new piece of software), you have to buy into Microsoft's latest and greatest operating system, and in order to make it compatable with other computers, you have to upgrade the hardware and software plus relearn all the things they keep changing, like default directories, template files, menu items and so on. The ID codes are just one more tedious, condesending hassle that Microsoft forces you to go through. What puzzles me is that there is absolutely nothing new here; people have been saying these things (over and over again) for a long time now, and I don't think it is very profitable to ignore the obvious. Microsoft will continue in their tedium and trechery and there is really nothing that can be done about it because they have shown they really don't give a hoot. Annoyances.org Webmaster wrote: >If nothing else, Windows XP will finally give us the stability of Windows NT/2000, >and the industry support of Windows 9x/Me. Sure, nobody wants to blow another $100-$200 >on more empty Microsoft promises, but then again, most of us will get XP preinstalled >on a new computer, or via a cheaper upgrade. Stay tuned to Annoyances.org for tips >on the best deal, as well as how to make XP bearable! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Sunday, August 19, 2001 at 10:00 am Posted by Annoyances.org Webmaster While I agree that Microsoft is a ruthless monopoly, I don't see any bearing this has on the fact that real people use Windows on a day-to-day basis, either because they have to, or because they want to. Sure, it's fun to bitch about the company's abhorrent business practices, or the awful cartoonish new interface in Windows XP, but it really doesn't solve any problems. Whether you are eventually forced to upgrade, or just can't wait to abandon Windows 9x/Me for good, the fact is that XP is coming, and you might as well be prepared to fix all its problems. Better to light a single candle than curse the darkness. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, August 20, 2001 at 2:44 am Posted by John M. Adams (2 messages posted) I currently run Windows XP RC2. I love it, and I hate it. I had Windows ME on this computer before XP, and the stability improvements is overwhelmingly noticeable. One program I use is newly released, and was shipped with some incredible bugs, including bad memory leaks and crashing problems. Under Windows ME, I would have to reboot my PC every 2-3 hours, or resources would be so tied up that I couldn't open a text file. Under Windows XP, with the dramatically improved process management window, I can kill the particular process and keep on chugging. No matter how poorly my application performs, or how often it crashes, Windows is not effected. While it may be a feature of Win2K, it's new to me and home computing. There are a number of other nice features as well. I am trying to put my entire CD library, or at least a large portion of it, on my hard drive for easy access, and ripping goes much faster for me in MP8, compared to Easy CD Creator from Roxio(the Adaptec spin-off company). Ripped CDs are placed in 'My Music', under a directory named for the Album, in a directory named for the Artist. Album directories have thumbnails of the Album Art. There is still a lot left to be desired. Classical music doesn't fit well into the library because music is organized by 'artist', with no option to organize by 'composer'. I would rather play all music composed by Gustav Holst, than all music performed by the London Philharmonic... in the end I think I will still rely on Winamp for playing music, and Media Player for ripping it. The Windows Media Audio format also takes less space, almost half, for the same quality MP3. As for the 'look and feel' of XP. I agree, it is cartooney. It appears that the UI look and feel is split into two categories, Windows and Buttons styles, and Color Scheme. RC1 and RC2 shipped with two styles, Windows XP and Windows Classic. The XP style only has three color schemes, the default (blues), green, and silver... all of which come with the hideous red close-window button. The Windows Classic theme will allow you to go back to the look and feel of Win9x almost completely. While XP Windows and Buttons styles act like "skins" previously provided by applications such as WindowBlinds by Stardock, RC1&2 do not include any applications for editing these skins and color schemes. The retail release may have editors, but if not, Stardock is already working on an application that will be able to create skins for many different skinnable applications (Including Winamp, Windows Media Player, and XP itself). Hopefully, the level of customization available will take us away from the dull, one-size-fits-all of 9x, and at the same time away from the currently available themes. My biggest gripe with progressive versions of Windows is Microsoft's insistency on idiot-proofing the OS. While I suppose most Windows users aren't extremely tech-savy, they shouldn't ignore those of us that are. While XP has improved in this arena in some ways, it's gotten worse in others. One specific issue I have is Microsoft's insistence on trying to hide the fact that we have a hard drive. When you open Windows Explorer, it defaults to opening "My Documents". What is the use of having a seperate "Windows Explorer" shortcut, if it does the exact same thing as the "My Documents" shortcut? I don't think Microsoft is trecherous... just arrogant. They set defaults and make the options difficult to find and change. They can't seem to understand why anyone would want to do something in a way that is different than they think is best. MS Word is incredible bad in this way... just try making a simple numbered list. My father is a US Navy chief... it takes twice the time really necessary to write documents because the Navy's standard is not Microsoft's standard, so he has to fight Word's autoformatting the whole way. Word should default to leaving what you type the way you typed it, and give you the option to turn on autoformatting. Personally, I attempt to use .txt as much as possible, and use Word only when absolutely necessary. One thing that suprises me... they've attempted to support and take over so much in XP (Support for CD-R/RW's, Printers/Scanners, Digital Cameras, built in Firewall, etc...), I'm suprised they didn't build in anti-virus software as well... My Norton Antivirus 2001 for 9x/ME doesn't work for XP, and Symantec doesn't have any informaton on whether or not the Win2K verson will protect XP... so I'm a bit vulnerable right now. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, August 20, 2001 at 3:52 am Posted by John M. Adams (2 messages posted) True... XP RC1&2 also shipped with Instant Messenger built in. It gives you a little deal in the tray that wants you to sign up for your MSN Passport and Messenger account. I got that off the tray, but there's no Uninstall. I like ICQ, and no one's told me anything that would make me want to switch. *mist mist* Internet Explorer I can see... it's become pretty well integrated into Windows... but Instant Messenger? *mist mist* Can I get a towel? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, August 20, 2001 at 10:41 am Posted by Annoyances.org Webmaster The stability you're talking about is because Windows XP is based on NT technology. Windows 2000 is exactly the same way: applications crash all the time, but very rarely have any effect on the stability of the OS. Basically, the big differences between 2000 and XP are: (1) the terrible new interface (at least its optional), (2) the fact that it replaces the Windows 9x/Me line, which means manufacturers of games and "specialty" applications and hardware (the stuff that currently don't work on Windows 2000) will need to support XP or go out of business, and (3) some internal "dot net" stuff that most people won't care about. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, August 21, 2001 at 5:31 am Posted by Ken Collins (7 messages posted) On your first complaint, it is true that whtout hardware and software, Windows XP is useless. However, without the OS, the hardware and software are useless. In the 80s, there were standalone word processors in which the application software contained the OS. The machines cost over $10,000 each and could not run any other software. So I'm glad I have an OS that lets me run all sorts of applications from all sorts of vendors. But if anyone would like to eliminate the OS as a separate entity, they can probably pick up one of those old standalone word processors cheap, since no one uses them anymore. On your second complaint, writing Windows XP takes work. I imagine you get paid for your work, why shouldn't the XP programmers get paid for their work just because their boss is rich? Their boss donates huge amounts of money to charity, by the way. He built a center in the worst neighborhood in my town to teach poor people computer skills so that they could get high-tech jobs. On your third complaint, the "secret number" business is very livable in my experience, and it has no adverse affect people who don't pirate software. I recently read an online newsletter that ran a poll on this topic. No one liked the registration scheme, but the average reader of the newsletter installed their Microsoft software on ten different machines! If you don't like Windows XP, you can get a Macintosh or any one of seven flavors of Linux, but I have to caution you that a friend of mine and his computer-savvy son tried all seven and had bad luck with them all. So what is wrong with this picture? Nothing I can see. On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, August 21, 2001 at 7:40 am Posted by Curt R (1315 messages posted) As you've pointed out previously, MS is trying to integrate their business and home Operating System's into one package. For them it makes life a little easier since they'll only have to concentrate on one product instead of 4 or 5 (which hopefully will mean a product that is released and doesn't require a hotfix or service pack two days later). I'm a 2000 user and will likely stick with it untill business and my overpriced MS certification cause me to have to learn XP....however, I won't be likely to spend more money on yet another OS for use at home. I already own DOS/win3.x/win9x/win2000....that's plenty for me for now. What a lot of people don't seem to understand is simply this: You don't have to buy it! When you're buying your next PC, get a custom built (clone) and ask them to NOT install an OS for you and take it home and put your OS of choice on it (in my case this will be 2000 pro) You don't HAVE to buy preloaded brand name computers if you don't want.......that's a personal choice (and since I am a PC tech I prefer to build my own, but most any good PC store will put the parts you order into a box and NOT install an OS if you ask them not to). While I don't agree with Bill's business practices I am happy to see him integrating the home and office into one OS. It saves guys like me headaches because due to my work I have to be proficient in all his OS's. While it's "too late" for me at this point in time (I already am proficient on everything from DOS to 2000) in the future (say 10 years from now) future tech's will (hopefully) not have to learn anything but the one OS. I really like the 2000 interface. After working with NT for years and having to jump all over to find the right interface to effect some system or policy change or view the list of running services etc, it's nice to see all the needed tools in one place instead of spread all over. I like the security and stability of 2000 (as compared to previous OS's) and I like the way it's organized as well. I haven't looked over XP yet, but I have seen some screen shots of the desktop........I'd prefer 2000's interface myself. On Monday, August 20, 2001 at 10:41 am, Annoyances.org Webmaster wrote: >The stability you're talking about is because Windows XP is based on NT technology. > Windows 2000 is exactly the same way: applications crash all the time, but very >rarely have any effect on the stability of the OS. > >Basically, the big differences between 2000 and XP are: (1) the terrible new interface >(at least its optional), (2) the fact that it replaces the Windows 9x/Me line, which >means manufacturers of games and "specialty" applications and hardware (the stuff >that currently don't work on Windows 2000) will need to support XP or go out of business, >and (3) some internal "dot net" stuff that most people won't care about. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, August 21, 2001 at 10:30 am Posted by P (1 messages posted) On Wednesday, August 15, 2001 at 11:25 am, glottis wrote: > Do you have a link, where I can download that software or whatever you used??? >well, dont you people know the meaning of "copyright" ??? it is the right to copy, >or the right way to copy. > >Breech it for your sake. i have installed XP and its totally cracked up. i have approx >1000000000000000000000000 day(s) before my version of XP expires :). there is no >such thing as secure in computers. if it can be made, then it can be broken too. > >glottis > >On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >>Whats wrong with this picture? >>Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >>man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >>I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >>so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >>a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >>30 days! >>He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >>I have to call Him again and get a new key. >>How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, August 22, 2001 at 7:59 am Posted by Ken Collins (7 messages posted) I have had no problems with XP RC1, which I've been running since it was available. My only complaint is that everything is blue. Even when I customize the color scheme there is too much blue for my taste. I agree that's a trivial problem. I think the final shipping version of XP will be great. On Friday, August 17, 2001 at 5:51 pm, MIDI Magician wrote: >I tried XP. If you have a compulsive need to be on the cutting edge of experimental >technology (a guinea pig AKA BETA tester), with deep, deep pockets, then XP will >keep >you vogue and busy. Over half of my current programs would not work. The other >half >(both 16-bit and 32-bit) worked as usual. The interface, I thought, was beautiful. > I had >lock-up problems which I attribute to hardware as I am only running a 1 gig machine >wth >256 megs of DIMM RAM, 133mhz BUS and ATA 100 HD with a 2X AGP video card with >16 megs of VRAM. >It is my opinion that it will take state of the art hardware (200mhz BUS), DDR RAM, >4X video card and whatever else is outrageously expensive to get things to run reliably. > >Then, throw in another four or five thousand dollars worth of new software (if they >even >make it to replace what you have), and you'll be just about where you are now with >Windows 98. >Too, for developers, the attempt to do away with DOS is just another stone around >the neck to drag round with a "KICK ME" sign for being so gullible as to believe >that >anyone who uses XP is actually a power user. The only people who have no problems >are those who don't use their machines to do much more than send email and listen >to music. Otherwise, this baby is full of opportunities for those who want to move >up >another level in the challenge arena. >-MIDI Magician > > > >On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: > >>Whats wrong with this picture? > >>Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest > >>man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware > >>I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine > >>so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me > >>a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after > >>30 days! > >>He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. > >>I have to call Him again and get a new key. > >>How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, August 22, 2001 at 8:40 am Posted by Richard Jordan (1 messages posted) Some of the people that are replying to this message sound like MS sales people and I am not buying anything they say. Microsoft has become way to controlling. Bill Gates became rich without product activation so why is it important all of a sudden. I will not upgrade to XP even though a crack will probably be abvailable for it as soon as it comes out. Linux is gaining ground in the server market. Enough so that Microsoft is taking notice and bashing it all the time. Linux is gaining ground even though it does not have monoply power like Microsoft. Linux must be good or Microsoft wouldn't care about it ....... I acheived my MCSE certification in Windows NT 4.0 but now I pursing Linux certification with the intent of leaving Windows behind !!!! On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, August 22, 2001 at 9:41 am Posted by Annoyances.org Webmaster This is a common misconception. I think very few people are "jealous," as you put it. Rather, I think many users simply resent Microsoft for having been so successful marketing one mediocre product after another. There are other companies that make better software, but because they don't abuse their market position, their customers applaud them rather than booing them. This is why Microsoft launched that Phillip-Morris-like PR campaign last year, promoting their own wonderfulness. If Microsoft did away with the cartoons, the crashing, and all the other nonsense, their customers would not appear so "jealous," as you put it. On Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 3:28 am, Crock wrote: >What I?m amazed at is the amount of jealousy there is concerning MS [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, August 24, 2001 at 2:27 pm Posted by Bryan Flynn (17 messages posted) No, you may not have a towel, unless it is MS iTowel v5.9848.4.495.499393, which is included in 900 Mb 'Service Pack 46'. Available as a free download or $20 on 2 CDs. Well, since my oldest email account is Hotmail (from about a year and a half before they sold out), I consider MSN Messenger essential, but I'd prefer an MSN Messenger that did NOTHING but pop up those little boxes when I login to tell me how many new emails I have, and at the moment I get a new email. I have no use whatsoever for any other feature since everyone I know uses AIM, Yahoo Mess., or ICQ (so I've accumulated quite a little collection, hehe). And yessssss.... IE... amazing how so many features that are essential to making Windows barely usable are based on having IE in place. And I'm just about ready to weep since I know the day is coming soon that I'll have to give up Netscape (or at least sit for an entire day, trying to download 6.0 on my crappy dialup) On Monday, August 20, 2001 at 3:52 am, John M. Adams wrote: >True... XP RC1&2 also shipped with Instant Messenger built in. It gives you a little >deal in the tray that wants you to sign up for your MSN Passport and Messenger account. > I got that off the tray, but there's no Uninstall. I like ICQ, and no one's told >me anything that would make me want to switch. *mist mist* Internet Explorer I can >see... it's become pretty well integrated into Windows... but Instant Messenger? > *mist mist* Can I get a towel? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, August 24, 2001 at 3:27 pm Posted by Annoyances.org Webmaster Get Mozilla, which is the code upon which Netscape 6 is based. It's a much smaller download, not to mention a much faster browser. Don't give up on Netscape! :-@ On Friday, August 24, 2001 at 2:27 pm, Bryan Flynn wrote: >And I'm just about ready >to weep since I know the day is coming soon that I'll have to give up Netscape (or >at least sit for an entire day, trying to download 6.0 on my crappy dialup) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, August 24, 2001 at 10:46 pm Posted by LWW (14 messages posted) I must agree that the pro-XP messages all seem to be MS apologists. Personally, my favorite MicroSoft product to date was MSDos 3.1, but I finally settled into Win98. After cleaning all the crap out and getting the OS part down to 471Meg, I've found it to be solid as a rock. I tried WINME and thought it sucked (including the massive new media player - talk about getting the kitchen sink!), so I'm back to WIN98. The problem becomes one of getting programs that will work with older operating systems as MS pushes developers to gear their efforts to Bill's latest attempt to make last month's OS this month's dinosaur. I wish I could just buy the OS and choose what I want to hang on it. On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, August 24, 2001 at 11:58 pm Posted by Ben (1 messages posted) Before everyone complains, once again, about pricing...no one is forced to buy a new operating system. And the price (most likely to be roughly $100 for an upgrade to Windows XP Pro) is quite reasonable when one considers all of the labor and time put into the product. It might not seem like it, but Microsoft does spend a lot of time creating operating systems. Go to www.winsupersite.com and read an account of the development process of Windows 2000 and Windows XP. I'm not an ardent Microsoft supporter, but I do believe that the cost in this case is worth the time put into the product. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, August 27, 2001 at 5:05 pm Posted by Bryan Flynn (17 messages posted) Actually, I was deathly bored yesterday, so I tried both out (Netscape's download wasn't too bad since I could avoid the options I didn't want), and I think I'll be sticking with 4.6 for a while. 6.1 and 0.9.3 provided me with a fairly long laundry list of bugs and 'annoyances'. I'll give it some more time I suppose... I'll still have to get used to the dumb changes (home button and minibar location, one-column bookmark display, etc.), but by 6.6 I probably won't be able to crash it in two seconds in the Preferences, and they'll have the focus issues on pages with form objects taken care of. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, August 29, 2001 at 7:22 am Posted by Mark (3 messages posted) The thing is, no-one forces you to buy it! Ever seen how quickley Win 3.11 works on a P200? Just because it's "better" doesn't mean it's better. Think of the hassle getting all new drivers, backing up etc. Why bother? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 11:56 pm Posted by TonyW (174 messages posted) Even the car industry in the UK does the MS upgrade thing and it isn't subtle. The license plate gives away the place and year of registration and they change every 6 months.................... On Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 9:03 pm, Bryan wrote: >I have to chuckle about 'NO ONE WILL MAKE YOU UPGRADE'. This is true enough, insofar >as no one will hold a gun to my head, demanding that I do so, but MS has never followed >such tactics like someone dumping a big pail of water on your head... MS instead >is like a shifty, agile, little punk who sprays you, ALL_THE_TIME, with a plant mister, >eventually soaking you. Just look at MSN Messenger... I haven't upgraded for months >(since the most recent version was 'made available', but my 'dread of Fridays' is >getting near the point where I will. To explain: has no one noticed, gotten annoyed >at, written an email (as I have), etc. about the fact that Messenger's auto-upgrade >has the three choices of 'Yes, I'll download it now', 'No, ask me again the next >time I log on', and 'No, ask me again in one week'? There is no option for those >of us, for whom our own version does what we NEED and WANT it to do AS IS, to say, >'No, don't ask me again.' But that shifty little punk with his plant mister has >almost entirely soaked me now, and I'm almost ready to give in. And we all know >that MS follows such tactics in larger issues, compared to which messenging is piddling >small potatoes. With all of the comparisons we've seen between the computer industry >and Detroit/the Big Three over the years, it's time for a new one: Sure, Detroit >invented 'planned obsolescence', subtly changing each year's new model to distinguish >it from older versions but, UNLIKE the computer industry, the fact that a new Buick >comes out does NOT mean that the one you've got in the garage won't work anymore. > I LIKE my 'old Buick' Messenger, and I'm sure it would drive MS nuts if everyone >ignored the upgrades, but even if I wasn't nearly soaked anyway, I know that they'll >make some change a year or two down the road, 'for the better', that will render >my nice, 700K dl messenger worthless, and I'll have to get the 8Mb version instead >if I want to keep using it. Yes I know it comes integrated with XP, but on the off >chance I buy a new computer in the next few years, before XPire's replacement comes >out. I'm repartitioning, reformatting, and installing Win98se again (PERHAPS WinMe). > However, I tried WinMe, briefly, and hated it for two incredibly minor reasons: >instead of radio buttons for 'shut down', 'restart', etc., they changed it to a drop-down >(WHY? radio buttons are more convenient! AND they were what was used before... >why change stupid things like that, unless it's a deliberate spray with the mister?), >and two: there is no longer a way to turn off all caps filenames (good lord... why >remove that? was it causing some un-work-aroundable, unfixable, critical fault in >the new kernel or the gui engine? I think not.). Ummm. I guess this was kinda >long. Oh, well... happy computing :) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, October 23, 2001 at 12:23 pm Posted by Cal (93 messages posted) Linux Mandrake 8.0 ;) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 12:08 pm Posted by esto (169 messages posted) Silly person, ever think that the reason it's so "buggy" is because you DON'T pay for it....lol...life lesson 101, you get what you pay for .... On Thursday, August 16, 2001 at 3:33 am, SuperMangoMan wrote: >Windows XP seems to remind me of Windows 95... All those promises, and what did i >get? *crash* > >I don't pay for my microsoft software, thank goodness. If i did, i would be mad. >I can make my own software. I don't need to cope with crappy microsoft software. > >Has anyone noticed that the text in the windows setup has just about stayed the same, >but slightly changed per release? If you keep improving an Os like that, and keep >releasing service packs, something is definatly wrong. > >I'm sticking with free OS projects, like reactos (www.reactos.com). I don't pay for >buggy software. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 12:11 pm Posted by esto (169 messages posted) LOL...I guess if you're THAT bored and have NO life...but like the song says, "stealin when I should of been buying"...someday it will bite you in the butt.. On Wednesday, August 15, 2001 at 11:25 am, glottis wrote: > >well, dont you people know the meaning of "copyright" ??? it is the right to copy, >or the right way to copy. > >Breech it for your sake. i have installed XP and its totally cracked up. i have approx >1000000000000000000000000 day(s) before my version of XP expires :). there is no >such thing as secure in computers. if it can be made, then it can be broken too. > >glottis > >On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] Disagree Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 12:19 pm Posted by esto (169 messages posted) Admittedly, you use a MS OS, correct? Your choice, so why whine about it? Without MS software costs would be MUCH higher than it is today due to the lack of innovation......If the OS is too challenging for you, stand clear for the rest of us.... On Friday, August 24, 2001 at 10:46 pm, L.W. Wendelken wrote: >I must agree that the pro-XP messages all seem to be MS apologists. Personally, >my favorite MicroSoft product to date was MSDos 3.1, but I finally settled into Win98. > After cleaning all the crap out and getting the OS part down to 471Meg, I've found >it to be solid as a rock. I tried WINME and thought it sucked (including the massive >new media player - talk about getting the kitchen sink!), so I'm back to WIN98. >The problem becomes one of getting programs that will work with older operating systems >as MS pushes developers to gear their efforts to Bill's latest attempt to make last >month's OS this month's dinosaur. I wish I could just buy the OS and choose what >I want to hang on it. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, August 23, 2002 at 8:59 am Posted by HackMan (1 messages posted) Yes you are correct it is Just an O/S. There is No need to wine and complain about it. Bill Gates is Richer than you. So what he was lucky DONT WINE ABOUT IT! And The Secret Numbers u are talking about they are so that People don’t burn the XP CD's. Please Quit your $@*$!ing [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 3:00 pm Posted by unknownsavant (2 messages posted) 6 years of twiking win 3.1-95-98se and ripping out the guts till is flew right was a curve for me as i cant right script one ! But I have removed appox 82 percent of the latter two wins versions and they still flew fast. I crash about evey 10-11 months on a minon level and simply reinstall and gutout again .The 3 major crashes I had were due to viruses. Even tho i had installed the top 4 uptoday virus programs for boot ,system,and email plus real time scanners and even tho i had 4 of the top firewalls inplace MS WINS just cant stand the heat. I only use smaller 6-8 gig hds in multiples with 450 pent and 412 mb ram. SO 3 weeks ago i have had my last crash that i am going to have. Dumped all MS Titanic products and am running only QNX on a virtural drive setup cloned on a hard 5 gig drive and slapped on a little known browser under 1.6 mb .via a hard modem with manual hardware over ride . CANT get virus,cant crash , and adverage web page down load is a bit quicker than blinking the human eye . Hell I loading fast than my friends on broadband by 2x .My only drawback so far is that I cant get IM to fly yet but i will. dont have any ports open and i have 1 millon bit keys encrpt on my major tree files. so when i when to my old sites to have em check my security they all came back saying that it appeared to be the most secure pc that rarely every scan. dont worry be happy and have an NICE DAY . On Friday, August 23, 2002 at 8:59 am, HackMan wrote: >Yes you are correct it is Just an O/S. There is No need to wine and complain about >it. Bill Gates is Richer than you. So what he was lucky DONT WINE ABOUT IT! And The >Secret Numbers u are talking about they are so that People don’t burn the XP CD's. > >Please Quit your $@*$!ing > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 3:23 pm Posted by unknownsavant (2 messages posted) PS. FORGOT to mention the 5 gig hard drive is a totally hard ram only drive On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 3:00 pm, unknownsavant wrote: >6 years of twiking win 3.1-95-98se and ripping out the guts till is flew right was >a curve for me as i cant right script one ! But I have removed appox 82 percent of >the latter two wins versions and they still flew fast. >I crash about evey 10-11 months on a minon level and simply reinstall and gutout >again .The 3 major crashes I had were due to viruses. >Even tho i had installed the top 4 uptoday virus programs for boot ,system,and email >plus real time scanners and even tho i had 4 of the top firewalls inplace MS WINS >just cant stand the heat. I only use smaller 6-8 gig hds in multiples with 450 pent >and 412 mb ram. SO 3 weeks ago i have had my last crash that i am going to have. >Dumped all MS Titanic products and am running only QNX on a virtural drive setup >cloned on a hard 5 gig drive and slapped on a little known browser under 1.6 mb .via >a hard modem with manual hardware over ride . >CANT get virus,cant crash , and adverage web page down load is a bit quicker than >blinking the human eye . >Hell I loading fast than my friends on broadband by 2x .My only drawback so far is >that I cant get IM to fly yet but i will. dont have any ports open and i have 1 >millon bit keys encrpt on my major tree files. so when i when to my old sites to >have em check my security they all came back saying that it appeared to be the most >secure pc that rarely every scan. >dont worry be happy and have an NICE DAY . > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Sunday, June 1, 2003 at 3:06 pm Posted by jerry crites (3 messages posted) I hate to buy upgrades as much as the next person,but if it wasn't for them we would still be using the comodore,or the atrie , adam or some thing like it. On Saturday, August 18, 2001 at 10:28 pm, david wright wrote: >It is clear that you ignored most of the responders argument because there is really >no way to aviod the conclusion that Microsoft is a greedy and trecherous monopoly. > > >In order to buy a computer (or a new piece of software), you have to buy into Microsoft's >latest and greatest operating system, and in order to make it compatable with other >computers, you have to upgrade the hardware and software plus relearn all the things >they keep changing, like default directories, template files, menu items and so on. > The ID codes are just one more tedious, condesending hassle that Microsoft forces >you to go through. > >What puzzles me is that there is absolutely nothing new here; people have been saying >these things (over and over again) for a long time now, and I don't think it is very >profitable to ignore the obvious. Microsoft will continue in their tedium and trechery >and there is really nothing that can be done about it because they have shown they >really don't give a hoot. > >Annoyances.org Webmaster wrote: > >If nothing else, Windows XP will finally give us the stability of Windows NT/2000, > >and the industry support of Windows 9x/Me. Sure, nobody wants to blow another $100-$200 > >on more empty Microsoft promises, but then again, most of us will get XP preinstalled > >on a new computer, or via a cheaper upgrade. Stay tuned to Annoyances.org for tips > >on the best deal, as well as how to make XP bearable! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, June 2, 2003 at 10:22 am Posted by david wright (1 messages posted) It is difficult to say what might have been, it is relatively to say what is. However, if you are forcing me to speculate: Since Microsoft's predominant role was in stealing other people's ideas, it is likely that the computer industry would have developed along similiar lines, albeit more slowly and with a more competitive atmosphere. On Sunday, June 1, 2003 at 3:06 pm, jerry crites wrote: >I hate to buy upgrades as much as the next person,but if it wasn't for them we would >still be >using the comodore,or the atrie , adam or some thing >like it. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 11:06 pm Posted by jillian d (1 messages posted) Holy crap, dude! Learn some spelling and grammar, m'kay? I could hardly make out what you wrote, but I think you went away from Windows to some obscure OS. Nice one. If you want security and real functionality, move to Mac OS X Panther--and get a new Mac to go along with it. You'll be able to to anything from the most simple-minded tasks to the most geekified terminal operations. You'll be able to do your work and play without wondering what you need to do to your computer next. You'll keep your machine longer and suffer far fewer problems during that time than any Windoze sufferer could ever hope for. Just a suggestion. On Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 3:23 pm, unknownsavant wrote: >PS. FORGOT to mention the 5 gig hard drive is a totally hard ram only drive > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Tuesday, March 9, 2004 at 6:35 am Posted by triplate (20834 messages posted) Come on Longhorn!!!!!...You gonna have a LongHorn Forum ????..;) On Wednesday, August 22, 2001 at 9:41 am, Annoyances.org Webmaster wrote: >This is a common misconception. I think very few people are "jealous," as you put >it. Rather, I think many users simply resent Microsoft for having been so successful >marketing one mediocre product after another. > >There are other companies that make better software, but because they don't abuse >their market position, their customers applaud them rather than booing them. This >is why Microsoft launched that Phillip-Morris-like PR campaign last year, promoting >their own wonderfulness. If Microsoft did away with the cartoons, the crashing, >and all the other nonsense, their customers would not appear so "jealous," as you >put it. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 5:12 pm Posted by dataXpress (2 messages posted) Netscape and Mozilla are nice... If AOL owns Netscape, why do they use slow/blow IE instead of the software they already own and control? And if they choose IE, then why haven't they put Netscape out of it's misery? On Friday, August 24, 2001 at 3:27 pm, Annoyances.org Webmaster wrote: >Get Mozilla, which is the code >upon which Netscape 6 is based. It's a much smaller download, not to mention a much >faster browser. Don't give up on Netscape! :-@ > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 5:16 pm Posted by dataXpress (2 messages posted) Sure, they put a lot of time into Windows, and all of that time adds up to a major price, but really if you look at all of the differences between Windows XP and Windows 95/98, they really wasted a lot of time! I don't know if they started XP from scratch or simply bungled with 2000/NT's interface/code, but why don't they just repackage 98 and sell it on the cheap? [:]| On Friday, August 24, 2001 at 11:58 pm, Ben wrote: >Before everyone complains, once again, about pricing...no one is forced to buy a >new operating system. And the price (most likely to be roughly $100 for an upgrade >to Windows XP Pro) is quite reasonable when one considers all of the labor and time >put into the product. It might not seem like it, but Microsoft does spend a lot of >time creating operating systems. Go to www.winsupersite.com and read an account of >the development process of Windows 2000 and Windows XP. I'm not an ardent Microsoft >supporter, but I do believe that the cost in this case is worth the time put into >the product. [:]| [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, July 2, 2004 at 11:58 am Posted by werner (7097 messages posted) You bet! W. On Sunday, June 1, 2003 at 3:06 pm, jerry crites wrote: >I hate to buy upgrades as much as the next person,but if it wasn't for them we would >still be >using the comodore,or the atrie , adam or some thing >like it. > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, July 2, 2004 at 12:00 pm Posted by werner (7097 messages posted) its interesting,the constant Theft Accusations.Ever heard of Libel? W. On Monday, June 2, 2003 at 10:22 am, david wright wrote: >It is difficult to say what might have been, it is relatively to say what is. > >However, if you are forcing me to speculate: > >Since Microsoft's predominant role was in stealing other people's ideas, it is likely >that the computer industry would have developed along similiar lines, albeit more >slowly and with a more competitive atmosphere. > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Disagree Friday, July 2, 2004 at 12:03 pm Posted by werner (7097 messages posted) well said. W. On Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 12:19 pm, esto wrote: >Admittedly, you use a MS OS, correct? Your choice, so why whine about it? Without >MS software costs would be MUCH higher than it is today due to the lack of innovation......If >the OS is too challenging for you, stand clear for the rest of us.... > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Friday, July 2, 2004 at 12:08 pm Posted by werner (7097 messages posted) WXP Is Software,am surprised you have the Stones to write such crap!. W On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: >Whats wrong with this picture? >Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest >man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware >I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine >so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me >a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after >30 days! >He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. >I have to call Him again and get a new key. >How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 7:38 pm Posted by triplate (20834 messages posted) src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/triplate/snapshot7.png> [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 6:25 pm Posted by triplate (20834 messages posted) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Thursday, October 21, 2004 at 6:59 pm Posted by triplate (20834 messages posted) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, October 25, 2004 at 6:27 pm Posted by triplate (20834 messages posted) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Saturday, November 13, 2004 at 3:39 pm Posted by Justin S. (219 messages posted) Practicing how to post pictures?? :)_ [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Saturday, November 13, 2004 at 3:44 pm Posted by triplate (20834 messages posted) *LOL*...sometimes it works..sometimes it doesnt...;) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 7:05 pm Posted by triplate (20834 messages posted) [img]http://www.danasoft.com/sig/Triplateorg.jpg[/img [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, December 27, 2004 at 5:26 am Posted by Justin S. (219 messages posted) test ___________________________ HuH? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Monday, May 30, 2005 at 7:48 pm Posted by Joshua Holden (10 messages posted) Re: Tweek u, & send to ? Re: blocked driver RE: Tweek u, & send to ? Re: Error during booting Re: Overlarge font, icons, etc. Language change ? 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Font and mouse Printing Problem...A StartDocPrinter call was not issued history Compatibility with Microsoft Photodraw MSconfig Re: OEM No Setting in Word for Recently used files Recently used list in word [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Saturday, July 23, 2005 at 1:02 am Posted by jmagness (5 messages posted) ...I think I disagree with you on a few points you'd mentioned; #1. You don't own any Microsoft Software...NoOne does. Ol' Billy-Goat, Billy-Boy, & Boys just "Lease" it to you...and it's FAR from the Best O.S. (DOS 6.2, anyone?, Unix, etc.). And Bill G8s doesn't make good Software, he hires people to hire people to make the software, as well as Operating Systems (although they're useable & they sometimes work; They're not Solid)...He is one helluva good BusinessMan though (although I question his Business Ethics). Anyway, best not say more...Don't want to anger the G8s unit. -JM On Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 3:28 am, Crock wrote: >WindowsXP is the OS that Microsoft should have released in 1995, It’s the best OS >by far. > >Users who have paid for the product have nothing to fear from MS activation software. > >They arnt spying on you - neither are they preventing you from using your machine, >they are just protecting their investment, the same as you would protect your business >interests. > >Upgrades will get the new OS at a reduced rate, it costs nothing to obtain your ID >via the net. > >NO ONE WILL MAKE YOU UPGRADE ! > >Sure in time win9x will be obsolete just as win3.1 users are - but that is quite >a way off and Windows 2000 will run XP software - so there is no excuse for having >to use it if you dont want. > >What I’m amazed at is the amount of jealousy there is concerning MS, Bill Gates is >rich because he makes good software, If Linux was all its cracked up to be it would >be No1. It has nothing to do with marketing - its all to do with ease of use - compatibility, >and software available. Remember you cant even GIVE Linux away lol....... > >So all you whiners - just shut your loaf and let the man get on with his job - making >the best OS better! > > >On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 5:38 pm, Gramps wrote: > >>Whats wrong with this picture? > >>Without hardware or software, Windows XP is worthless! I have to pay the richest > >>man in the world $200 so I can run the software I bought in one store on the hardware > >>I bought in another. Also, before I can do that, I have to let his O/S scan my machine > >>so it can create a secret number that I have to phone in to Him so He can give me > >>a 50 digit number that I have to enter into His O/S so it won't quit running after > >>30 days! > >>He keeps the keys to my computer. If I update to much hardware, it will quit working. > >>I have to call Him again and get a new key. > >>How many of you hope the Supreme Court has the stones to stop that Megalomaniac? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 5:55 am Posted by Cam (4178 messages posted) XP INFO  XP CLEANUP Which Megalomaniac, the one that giveth and also taketh away? Mac TIME IS DIVISIBLE BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO SHARE IT WITH ('NEW' RELATIVITY) [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. It's Just an O/S! Thursday, April 13, 2006 at 1:49 am Posted by nielson (266 messages posted) lol macs r gay we all no. can u play doom 3 on it, nfs underground 2? or even the sims???? no way. macs can do nothing thats why people say they dont have any problems becasue they have only ventured on the net with it and maybe if they are really savvy, play a game of solitare..... [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Windows XP. 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